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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:27 PM
Good afternoon Tom and gang. I'll have a bottomless draught, and drink to the book exchange idea. What a great idea! I'll e-mail my address as soon as I'm done here! Yeah. I know that those Russian jobs must have looked real good to some out-of-work railmen, but I picture a pretty lousy existence for those individuals forced to take those jobs. It's interesting reading this 1931 publication, and their take on the relatively simple solutions to getting this country back on its feet. They had no idea that things were to become much worse, or that the depression would last so long.

Nice couple of posts Dave. You really make me feel like visiting Utah! Very inspiring reading indeed.

I've been a good grandson this a.m., and picked-up my grandmother for breakfast, and took her to see the IRM. Even though it's closed, there is still a lot to see. We went into the diesel barn so she could see where I spend my time, and she saw the drop table I spent months needle chipping. She remembers some train travel when she was younger, but didn't really have any stories to share.

Speaking of sharing ... perhaps the following might be of interest:

From the pages of “The Railway Conductor” September 1931

Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Company, March 17th, 1894

Wages and Rules Governing the Employment of Conductors and Flagmen, Baggagemen, and Brakemen

Through Passenger Service
Conductors ………….. $100 per month
Baggagemen ………… $57.50 per month
Baggagemen, on trains 5 and 6, who handle baggage and express $ 60 per month
Brakemen …………… $48.00 per month

Suburban
Conductors ………….. $95 per month
Brakemen …………… $52.50 per month
Flagmen …………….. $45 per month

St. Louis Division
Conductors …………. $90 per month
Baggagemen ……….. $50 per month

Through Freight Service
Conductors …………. $3 per 100 miles
Baggagemen ……….. $2 per 100 miles

Local or Way Freight Runs
Conductors …………. $85 per month
Brakemen …………… $57.50 per month

Work Trains
Conductors ………….. $0.28 per hour
Brakemen …………… $0.18 per hour

Men paid by the month on regular assigned runs will be paid extra for extra service outside their regular runs at rates governing such service. Momence crews running as turn-arounds will be allowed actual mileage – one hundred miles per round trip – overtime after 10 hours. Pilots to be paid for at rate of service the man or men were taken from. Eight hours rest to be given to crews after having been on duty sixteen hours or more. Clinton or Grape Creek mine runs to be paid the same rates as local. Brakemen to be allowed one hour each for coaling engines when away from terminals. Time slips to be returned when the time is not allowed, and reason to be given for not allowing the same.

One hundred miles or less, or ten hours or less to constitute a day’s work, except as herein qualified.

On such runs as Shelbyville, Rossville-Sidell Branch, the Cissna Park runs and the La Crosse Branch, where switch engines have not been in use, trainmen will be required to do switching when necessary in order to make 10 hours’ time without extra compensation.

(Examples:-- From Danville to Shelbyville is ninety miles; on every run they may be required to switch one hour at Shebyville – as there is no switch engine there – without extra compensation, provided the ten hours’ time is not exceeded; and on runs of eighty miles, two hours’ switching time will be required under the same conditions.)

On local runs between Chicago and Momenee (fifty miles), one day – one hundred miles – will be allowed for each trip.

No overtime will be paid for passenger service. Overtime at the rate of 30 and 20 cents per hour will be allowed conductors and brakemen in freight service only after an average of ten hours after each hundred miles service had been performed; computations to be made monthly. Time will be allowed in freight service from time set to departure of trains by schedule or otherwise, and will end when men are relieved from duty. Round trips or doubling runs will be considered as continuous service.

Trips or service commenced on one calendar day and not completed until the following day will be considered as made on the day on which commenced. Thirteen hours shall be considered a day’s work on all local runs.



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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:19 PM
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Permanent Stool Theodorebear TED Manager of “Our” Place and customer with unparalleled good cheer [swg] and determination. Florida connection and Regular Customer.

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The designation Regular Customer goes to those who Post regularly (at least several times per week over a given period) AND are inclusive with their responses. This is not a permanent designation and can change with participation.


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Posted by West Coast S on Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:30 PM
Afternoon again Tom and the gang...Tom this round on me, your'e choice...

I must admit to leaving my social graces under a rock...Happy belated birthday CM3, gets to be that I sometimes concentrate on the single tree at the expense of the entire forest..Tom you do a fantasic job maintaing "Our Place" and I for one much commend your efforts.. As, usual Tom, excellent series on the fallen flags.

Until later

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:51 PM
G'day Gents!

Amazing information in that Post of yours, Doug. You seem to have a never ending source for some pretty interesting RR history. Much appreciated! [tup][tup]

Dave Takes a big man to "own up to a mistake," and a bigger one to do so for all to see! [tup][tup] 'Nuf said.

Hmmmmm, a round of my choice would probably put the guyz on their heels in short order - so let's just keep it simple and make it refills all around! Boris Ring it! Thanx, Dave!

Doug I received your Email and responded to it - thanx. You will be first on the RR Book Relay. Also, your Birthday has been added to the revised Birthday Watch List! Thanx! ][tup][tup]

Dave Some mighty good "stuff" in your recent Posts. As always, keeping us intrigued is part of your talent. [swg]

Later Gents!

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:59 PM
Hi Tom and everyone. Steak & Fries? Okay, and a round of milk to wash down those Hostess creme-filled filled cupcakes. Questionable expiration date, Doug, but a junk-food fix is seldom declined.

No roots in the South but I love bluegrass and old-time country music. I listen right now as I type this: http://bluegrasscountry.org/

Tom your jokes were so awful I had to set the computer outdoors to air it out.
When you posted the second batch is when the porch collapsed. The dogs are okay, they have sense enough to evacuate the area when I log in here.

The idea of sending a treasured book on an odyssey through the mail is very generous but risky. A simple typo by anyone, a wrong digit, "St." instead of "Ave." and the book could be lost. Need to do a dry run first. Start with something of no sentimental value, maybe a crisp $100 bill (to celebrate Ben Franklin's 300th birthday, Jan. 17). We could each in turn autograph it and mail it on to the next person. (I would keep Vito in the dark about this, if possible).

Ted, I believe I saw the movie you mentioned with Joel McCrea and, if I'm not mistaken, Veronica Lake. They were in a boxcar, right? "Sullivan's Travels."
McCrea also star of Cecil B. DeMille's "Union Pacific."

Dave, I remember Great Salt Lake from 1960 trip on the Challenger. As I recall, the lake was right there, but I don't remember the train going across the lake on a bridge or causeway. Maybe I missed something. Probably my eyes were glued to one window on one side of the train. Also it was very long ago.

Rob you ought to have a larger readership, so much of what you post is solid history of Canada, apart from the fact that it is specific to trains. Bombardier is mentioned in New York Times article last week:
"KREFELD, Germany -- Even more high-speed trains? Europe must be kidding.
In one vast hall, workers in blue overalls are putting the finishing touches on what would, on an old-fashioned train, be a locomotive, except that it houses a spacious conference room with a large table and seven comfortable armchairs.
In an adjacent hall, others are attaching what look like ordinary wheel trucks to a rail car, except that these contain electric motors that will essentially do the locomotive's job of pulling the train...." http://servicios.invertia.com/foros/read.asp?idMen=1003405257&comp2=CAC+40&idtel_comp=IB022CAC
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Posted by West Coast S on Saturday, January 7, 2006 4:46 PM
Once again Tom..Round for you, I also need to acknowledge a proper welcome to some unfamilar (to me) faces as well as us who have been here since the early days. Welcome all, glad to meet you.

Wanswheel, You would have traversed the causeway, I too can vouch that the scenery gets boring in the area, dulling the brain to all other activities, salt as far as the eye can see and wherein a telephone pole gains new significence that you indeed were not transported to a distant, alien planet.

I have some property in Montello NV, so can be found in the area once a year as time permits, Montello has a rich history of serving the CP/SP, during the steam to early diesel era as it was a important helper station for westbounds asscending the Pequop mountains, once equipped with a sizeable yard, eight engine coal dock (from the coal burning era on the CP/SP) and six stall enginehouse with carshops.

Passenger power was rountinely changed out along with crews and new orders obtained. Nearby Cobre NV, was an important interchange with the Navada Northern Copper RR. (carefull where you tread in this area, shotgun wielding residents are leary of all visitors, don't ask how I discovered this bit of local flavor). On my first visit in 1978 only the water tank, freight station and a passing siding remained, the tank served as the water source for the eleven residents of the town. Upon the UP takeover, not much changed operationally from the old days, UP did raze the station and the water tank gave way to county supplied wells many years later, the siding also came up. UP does maintain track workers and inspectors at Montello, with the pending service hours worked rules change, it could once again be a crew change point.

Rob, I hear your needs, i'm got some PE subjects in the works that i'll post once the research phase is completed.

Barndad, like your rules/reg info, SP had a rule forbiding the flushing of sewage tanks when crossing open deck bridgework in which persons responsible for safe operation of desginated structure could be present, under or adjancent to said structure.. A very usefull rule in my book.

Ok Boris, behave yourself and refain from those expired Twinkies no matter what you've been told to the contrary, expired bean dip with stale fruit Loops, ok, but not the Twinkies, I had a bad trip with expired Twinkies in the seventies, ooh all the pretty colors, they move too!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 7, 2006 5:35 PM
Evening again Tom and friends. I'll have a quick draft, and please set-up a round on me. As a former OSU kolidge stoodint, I am obliged to not have anything to do with M.... (I can't say the word) ... that state up North. That's why I cheerfully donate all my Michigan (I said the word!) quarters to the coal scuttle.

Ted, I did not hunt that electric deer .... I swiped it! And Mike, I don't believe there is such a thing as an expiration date on a Twinkie.

.. and now .... for more 1931 rule info ...

From the pages of “The Railway Conductor” September 1931

Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Company, March 17th, 1894

Wages and Rules Governing the Employment of Conductors and Flagmen, Baggagemen, and Brakemen General Rules

1. Callers will be kept at all points where, in the judgment of the head of the department, it is necessary to call conductors and brakemen. Men to be called at their regularly registered residences, and as nearly practicable two hours before leaving time of trains. Each man, when called, to sign call book showing time called and departing time of train called for. Distance limits for calling not to exceed one mile from starting point of caller, but no caller will be furnished for men assigned to regular runs, except by special agreement.

2. When conductors and brakemen are held for duty, and for any cause other than their own acts do not go out, if held on duty three hours or less, they will be paid for three hours at the rate of ten miles per hour, and stand out first. If held on duty for more than three hours and less than five hours, they will be paid for five hours at the same rate per hour and stand first out. If held on duty more than five hours, they shall be paid for ten hours at same rate of pay per hour, and go behind all other crews at that point.

3. When men are notified (before reporting) that they will not be wanted, no time will be allowed.

4. Conductors and brakemen of work trains when held for duty, will be paid for six hours if they work six hours or less; if over six hours and less than ten hours, they will be paid for ten hours; over ten hours, they will be paid prescribed rate per hour. To be paid for noon hour if worked. Conductors and brakemen of work trains being called upon to handle merchandise train on the same day, will be paid number of hours they work as per rule No. 4 on Work Trains, and be paid actual mileage on merchandise traffic.

5. Trainmen deadheading under orders on passenger of freight train will be paid one-half their regular rate.

6. The number of men to be employed with each crew on train shall be determined by the superintendent.

7. Trainmen acting as witnesses attending court on legal cases or in similar service to the company, will be allowed no dead-head mileage, but will be allowed a full day’s pay for each twenty-four hours absent from duty; fractional days at proportionate rate, but in no case less than one full day.

8. If any trainman has been taken off his train for any cause, he shall be granted a thorough investigation with the privilege of requesting the attendance of all material witnesses to the cause for which his suspension has been made. He may also have one other trainman present at the investigation, and shall have the right to appeal to the general officers of the road. Decision will be given five days after appeal. Investigation will be made in five days after suspension. If found not guilty of the charge, he will receive pay for all time lost.

9. All employees entering or remaining in the service of the company thereby agree to obey and be governed by any and all rules of the company.

10. The rules and regulations of the company are for the guidance of all concerned, and for the safe and prompt dispatch of the company’s business and care of its property. It is of the utmost importance, to make these rules efficient, that they shall be absolutely enforced, and all those unwilling to yield a cheerful and full obedience thereto are not expected to remain in service.

11. It is the purpose of this company to reward long service by promotion. In making promotions, the oldest employee will be promoted, provided his record is good, and also provided he has not been notified by the trainmaster or superintendent previous to the time of possible promotion that he is, in their judgment not fitted for higher duties. The oldest trainman in the employ of the company to have preference if competent and worthy. The trainmaster or superintendent to be the judge, with the right of the applicant for promotion to appeal to the general officers, provided prejudice is alleged.



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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 6:52 PM
G’day Gents!

Some acknowledgments before settling in for an evening of watching NFL football (it’s only the Playoffs that really captivate my attention these daze!). Can’t say that I’m happy or sad regarding the outcome of the first game today – but Tampa surely should have won it, given those mistakes in the first quarter. Oh well, win some, lose some and some are rained out (a baseball “thing”!).


wanswheel Mike
Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 15:59:21


This is one of those responses where it will appear that I will appear contrary to what has been Posted: Nothing personal, but …..

Blue grass and “country” music isn’t something just for Southerners or from the south. The origins of that music can be traced to several European sources – Ireland and Scotland being just two. Check out the music of Atlantic Canada (Maritime Provinces) and the ‘sounds’ are very familiar indeed. Stereotypes, perhaps fostered by the media, “do it” every time.

Don’t know whether you are being serious or humorous, however – the book is hardly “treasured.” I’d rather keep the $100 bill and take my chances! You are welcome to participate, of course. I expect the RR Book Relay to be fun and successful.

The jokes weren’t “mine” per se – they were “lifted” from web sources, so I take neither credit nor blame for them. However, apparently they succeeded by invoking a response or three. [swg]

Enjoyed the URL on the high speed rail info, most of which is contained in many U.S. writings and has been for decades. Problem is, our Congress simply has not and will not get off their collective duffs to put forth a viable 21st Century transportation plan which would address nation’s need for efficient, rapid, safe and cost-effective mass movement of people and things. That’s my take on it.

Finally, in 1953 on an eastbound cross-country rail trip from California, I too crossed the Great Salt Lake by train. Happened!

West Coast S Dave
Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 16:46:57


Thanx for the round (again)! [tup] Perhaps one day you will be able to provide us with some of your rail photo’s – sounds like your property is in a place where we’d all enjoy the viewing. Appreciate your participation on this Saturday – a most active weekend day for you! [tup]

barndad Doug
Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 17:35:42


Yet another Post on this weekend day. What’s up, been “banished” from the museum[?][swg] No complaints, mind you, just never can figure when we will or will not have a “full house” ‘round here on Saturdays! Appreciate your participation! [tup][tup] Also, thanx for the round and explanation regarding those Michigan quarters! [swg] I don’t think there is one of the 50 states that invokes that kind of feeling in me that you have for The Great Lakes State – Mitten State – Winter Wonderland and Wolverine State! [swg]

I have to “save up” the long Posts for tomorrow’s reading during Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Later!


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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 8, 2006 12:36 AM


SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


We are CLOSED on Sundays! However, today is Sunday Photo Posting Day! So, dig through those albums and share some Classic Trains (real and model) with us! [tup][tup]


We open at 6 AM tomorrow, all time zones! (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Daily Wisdom

I usually take a two-hour nap from 1 to 4. (Yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

(1) Tomorrow is the Grand Re-opening of The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! Box office opens at 5 PM (Central time.) Double feature with a live stage show in between the flicks! [yeah]

(2) Wednesday is “Pike Perspectives Day” at the bar. Time for all model railroad hobbyists to discuss and display a couple of pix. [tup]

(3) Thursday is Fish ‘n Chips Nite! and maybe something from Chief Chef Nick [dinner] Dinner at 5 PM.

(4) Friday is Pizza Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite! [dinner] Dinner at 5 PM.


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 00:36:52 (213) Saturday Info & Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 07:07:31 (213) AM report!

(3) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 07:39:47 (213)AM report!

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 09:45:03 (213) Hours & Food Service at “Our” Place

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 09:50:38 (213) Top 15 Contributors

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 09:52:59 (213) Cast of Characters

(7) West Coast S Dave Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 12:08:39 (213) Informative Post

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 12:21:30 (213) RR Book Relay

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 13:16:08 (213) Acknowledgments, etc.

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 13:21:21 (213) NOSTALGIA – Fallen Flag GN

(11) barndad Doug Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 13:27:18 (213) Wages and Rules, etc.

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 15:19:49 (214) Order of the Stools

(13) West Coast S Dave Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 15:30:08 (214) Oooops!

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 15:51:19 (214) Acknowledgments, etc.

(15) wanswheel Mike Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 15:59:21 (214) Inclusive Post, etc.

(16) West Coast S Dave Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 16:46:57 (214) Informative Post, etc.

(17) barndad Doug Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 17:35:42 (214) Wages and Rules, etc.

(18) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 18:52:46 (214) Acknowledgments, etc.

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, January 8, 2006 12:40 AM
Good evening Tom and all the boyz at the bar. I'll have a CR aand a round for those left standing as well. Now Boris, I told you that I only gave you that surplus PCC bell for use as the doorbell for your kennel shed. You know it confuses Ted when you use it early in the morning,besides it's keeping Tom up late at night. Bad [alien] I see that you cleaned the paint off Tex the white cotton spats you made for him seem a bit over the top though.


Tom Not to worry many rounds of blue and other colours [:O][swg] will be available on the 11th no fear.Nice to see a busy sat again, and one with alot of great onfo at that. This is a good thing as it gives us more archieves to pull Encores from.[tup]

Yesterdays jokes did have a certain something, I agree with mike they tended to leave a bad smell once in a while.[;)]

Glad that you "recycled" a GN piece, it's bound to create some chat I woulod think, did the first time round anyway.[tup]

Ted Quite amazing isn't it that so many could sufficate in the same tunnel. Makes you wonder aloud if what they were paid was truly worth it. I'll forgoe the barrel of Bloody Mary's though [xx(] speacially after CM3's bash.

Dave Nice info on the Salt lake. That midpoint bridge / crew structure must have been something. You don't happen to have a photo or two of it do you ? Great info all around sir, I look forward to the next PE installments as well, if they are like the last ones you did we are all in for a treat. [tup]


Mike Wonderfull story on the Euro electrics some good info there. You are too kind with your praise of my writings. Most is gleaned from those who went before me in some cases,I just give the high lights. Some of it can be quite dry. UI'm not ready to become an author yet, I'll leave that to our more literarily sound members Al & CM3 .

Doug Wonderfull new tidbits from you today sir. Interesting to see how the pay scales have changed over the years. Alot of the rules aren't neccesarily all that different either,shows me that the railroading trade hasn't changed all that much in the last 90 years or so. Interesting info on Russia as well. Something I did not know of to be sure. I wonder how many of those Americans stayed on permanently. I would imagine, primitive or not that the Americans got Royal treatment while they were there. A Russina govt. of the time would want to score world points on how well they treated their erstwhile enemies,likely they showcased the happy westerners working away with their Russian counterparts.

Well folks that catches me up fer now. Here's hoping for a good photo turnout today, I'll start it off in a moment.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, January 8, 2006 12:51 AM
So the first shots up for today are a set of pictures I took in May and August of 1995 on a pair of railfaning trips to Chicago and area with a couple of friends .
Enjoy Rob





A couple of shots of Soo Line GP9's switching near the airport.



A group of CN&W GP7's doing their thing.



My first traction photo. This is a museum near St Charles.not sure who or what



GT GP40 pulling a transfer towards Canada at Delray JCT in Detroit
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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, January 8, 2006 1:05 AM
here's batch number 2. These are from the august trip to Chi town. In this case all these photo's were snapped in an hour span at Jolliet Union station.
Enjoy Rob



Metra calling at Union



Iowa interstate transfer run





Two shots of ICG train at Jolliet sporting home rebuilt "Paducah" Geeps







Three ATSF trains heading through



Whats this a passenger train at Union station,how quaint!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 5:25 AM
For Rob, a free Chicago trolley in front of the Water Tower


Photos of the layouts in the lower level of the Hancock Tower, Chicago 2005





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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 5:27 AM
More pix of the layouts in the Hancock Tower


Is it a bird … a plane … a frog? Find Superman and Spiderman

This little Santa climbs up and down the ladder with his string of lights

There’s a Batcave in this layout


Christmas layouts running the ceilings at Butch’s



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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 6:01 AM
Rob, your unknown museum is the Fox River Trolley Museum located along the Fox River in South Elgin. The car on the left is a 1926 No. 7 Pullman passenger coach, which was not lengthened during WWII. The car to the right is the No. 14, which was lengthened 17'5" during WWII. It is an open window car.



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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 8, 2006 9:15 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Some pix from my May 2005 eastern Canada rail adventure (previously Posted on page 12) - PART I of IV

Montreal's Central Station train board


Carol in Revelstoke Park car at Montreal


Carol in Revelstoke Park car dome at Montreal


Dinner in the "Louise" Dining Car


Tom and Revelstoke Park Car in Moncton, NB


Passing Train #15, the "Ocean" north of Truro, NS w/Renaissance equipment


The "Ocean" at Halifax, NS


The "Ocean's" F40PH loco's at Halifax, NS


Enjoy!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 8, 2006 10:45 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Some pix from my May 2005 eastern Canada rail adventure (previously Posted on page 13)PART II of IV

Evangeline Park car at Halifax, Nova Scotia


Chateau Brule sleeping car at Halifax, Nova Scotia


Westbound F40PH's at Moncton, New Brunswick


VIA Rail's "Ocean" Train #15 westbound at Moncton, New Brunswick


Nearing journey's end at Montreal's Central Station


"My LRC car" at Ottawa, Ontario


Train #33 at Ottawa, Ontario


VIA Rail Station, Ottawa, Ontario


VIA Rail Station, Bus platform, Ottawa, Ontario


War Museum complex, Ottawa, Ontario


Enjoy!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 11:02 AM
I couldn't let this day slip by without commenting on the quality and profusion of the Pix so generously provided. So, I've "slipped" this note in the letter slot. More later but for now, Doug finally I see the lineage of the P.C.C. (St. Louis Car) to the C.R.T. #6101-6102. For years, I've been trying to detect any evidence of the P.C.C.s that were reshopped for C.R.T. subway and El duties. DUH, I was looking at the wrong cars (#1-50) all along. Except for the clerestory windows, there seemed to be no resemblance at all....now, I know why![banghead] Rob, that pix of the South Shore Car (standard length) at St. Charles is the same vintage that I rode from South Bend, IN to the loop (around 1964 or so)...smooth and fast.[tup] See you Blokes tomorrow at the "Grand Opening."
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 12:32 PM
Hello there Tom. I believe I see you lurking in the corner cleaning up the mess from last night. It's kind of hard to see thru the dirty windows above the mail slots, though.
I am still alive and kicking down here in Springfield and I have been keeping up with all the posts, which are the usual fine quality. My silence is because I feel I have nothing to add--my dad always said a person could learn more with their mouth shut. I have learned plenty lately.
CM3, happy belated birthday.
Theodorebear, the book was mailed from the main P.O. yesterday.
Tom, the book thru the mail idea sounds like a winner. Count me in on it later--I have entirely too many borrowed books to embark on another currently.
Everyone, enjoyed all the photos for posting day! Helps illustrate all the great posts we are blessed with.
Better close this small note and slip it thru the slot. I know OUR PLACE is closed but wanted to check to stay on the regular customer list.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 8, 2006 12:40 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Some pix from my May 2005 eastern Canada rail adventure (previously Posted on page 15)PART III of IV

VIA Rail station, Ottawa, Ontario


Similar train to Montreal from Ottawa


Evangeline Park car in Montreal's Central Station


Single bedroom "Roomette" in Chateau Brule car


Single bedroom "Roomette" in Chateau Brule car


Crossing the St. Lawrence Seaway on the Victoria Jubilee Bridge


Mural Lounge in the Evangeline Park car


Service bar in the Evangeline Park car


Dome of the Evangeline Park car


"Joanne" in the Bullet Lounge of the Evangeline Park car


Journey's end - F40PH's at Halifax, Nova Scotia


Enjoy!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 2:12 PM
The last steam locomotive used in Michigan’s scheduled rail passenger service in 1961 is being moved to a new home at the Illinois Railway Museum. GTW 6323 is seen at Pontiac, Michigan being given a progress check by owner, Robert T. Johnson during the haul over GTW track. Grand Trunk photo.


This is a sample of a hidden track flaw which can be detected by ultrasonic detectors.


Ann Arbor placed four McKeen Motor Cars in service in 1911. This scene at Samaria, Michigan was in 1912. Everett J. Payette collection.


In steam days on the Denver & Rio Grande Western, Thistle, Utah, was a busy helper station for eastbound trains leaving Salt Lake City for the Soldier Summit grade. Beside adding helpers, one of the common rituals performed in that little community after a heavy snowfall was calling of an engine, caboose, and Jordan Spreader. The call was for a trip down the Marysvale Branch to get the snowy white stuff dug out from between the rails and tossed aside to melt. Ice buildup was dangerous on branch lines, though less of a hazard on main lines, where the rails were taller and there was a definite warming effect from the constant flow of traffic.

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 8, 2006 2:50 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Some pix from my May 2005 eastern Canada rail adventure (previously Posted on page 16)PART IV of IV

Two Park Cars - Revelstoke (right) - Evangeline (Left)


VIA Rail's Train #15, the "Ocean" at Halifax, Nova Scotia


Tom in Revelstoke Park car's dome


Mural at Truro, Nova Scotia


Farewell, Nova Scotia!


The six time zones of Canada


Tom & Claude at Moncton, New Brunswick


Crossing the St. Lawrence Seaway at Montreal, Quebec


Approaching Place Bonaventure, Montreal's Central Station


Train board at Montreal's Central Station


Enjoy!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 3:14 PM
i posted a topic last month but i got one reply back but they didn"t know if it was right
it was on the tv show petticoat junction what was the true railroad line i want to model it or similiar
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2006 3:20 PM
Do I need a new Rx for glasses or is the top clock of the six "time zones" out of sync with the lower 5 (Park Dome Car)? Triffling point for sure, just hope I'm not going blind.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 8, 2006 6:06 PM
For: Ted

What you are seeing is the time zone for Newfoundland - which is a "half-hour" zone. They are in the same zone as Bermuda, if that helps. [tup] Your eyesight is as keen as your perception! [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 8, 2006 6:33 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Finally, some more pix from my May 2005 eastern Canada rail adventure (previously Posted on page 13) These were originally Posted for passengerfan Al, who had a specific question and a request.


Approaching Place Bonaventure, Montreal, Quebec - catenaries to the left


VIA Rail Station, Halifax, Nova Scotia


Westin Hotel adjacent to VIA Rail Station, Halifax, NS


Westin Hotel adjacent to VIA Rail Station, Halifax, NS



Enjoy and see y’all Monday morning! [tup]

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Sunday, January 8, 2006 8:51 PM
Good evening Tom and all. I know we're closed today so I'm slipping this thru the mail slot.

I had to go to the emergency room yesterday (Saturday) for a severe case of Bronchitis. I had a 104 degree fever, and it was very difficult to breathe. Just about as bad, I had a rib out of place. I started coughing Friday, and guess I coughed hard enough to get a rib out of alignment. I did not know about the rib until I visited my chiropractor prior to going to the ER. I know you're thinking "why go to a chiropractor BEFORE going to the ER? Well, ligaments can, when out of place, restrict your lungs from expanding while trying to take a breath. As soon as he adjusted the area around my ribs, I was able to breathe a little easier, but still very hard to, and my fever was still high. I don't know how anyone here thinks about chiropractors, but I think they do a great job. I have been going to one ever since I was an infant as I was born with a crooked spine.

My wife drove me from the Chiropractor's office to the ER. They got me right in, and right away they checked my heart, blood, put in a IV, took Xrays of my lungs, and put oxygen on me. The worst fear was pneumonia because of the high fever, but when they looked at the xrays, it was just Bronchitis. If I'd waited longer, it would've turned into pneumonia. I was prescribed Albuterol (an inhaler), and some antibiotics. I'm feeling better today, like 55 percent better. I should be back to 100 later this week.

Here are some ENCORE photos for SUNDAY PHOTO DAY. Sorry I don't have fresher offerings.

Branson Scenic Railway F9


SEKR Budd RDC car


Inside shot


BUDD RDC description


Enjoy

Russell

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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, January 8, 2006 11:43 PM
Good evening gentlemen. Wonderfull shots today.[tup] A quite good start to 2006 photo days I should say. I won't be overly wordy today as no one's here to listen. Just a couple quickies. Tom The via rail trip shots are always welcome and always scenic[:D][tup]. Doug Wonderful new shots,& thanks for the info on Fox Valley figured that you would know the score. [tup] Russel Encore shots count just as much,glad that you took the time to repost them. [tup] Hope the broncitus clears up, we need you frieing on all cylenders.

Okay enough yapping already. Here's a few more before Sunday's over with. Spread #3 more oddballs at Bayview jct.



Soo line SD60 along for the ride on a CPR run through train at Bayview jct.



Amtrak train sailing through Bayview jct. Enroute to Toronto.



Via train 94 cruising through Bayview jct.



This one's for Ted. Ex Chicago El car 48 at our museum. She does indeed have the ghost of PCC's past inside her. All the controls , brakes and electronics were transplanted into these more modern bodies. If all goes well this year. We may get a ride on her in May. She's joining the regular rotation in place of MS&C 107
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, January 9, 2006 1:21 AM


MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

We open at 6 AM, all time zones! (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Good Morning! A special THANX to trolleyboy Rob, barndad Doug & Trainnut484 Russell who helped make our return to Sunday Photo Posting Day! a fun time. [yeah][wow] Hope the “browsers” enjoyed the pix, I did! [tup][tup][tup]

A special note for a SPEEDY RECOVERY to Russell and his bout with Bronchitis and associated complications. [tup][tup][tup]

Time to check out the pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery, our <light> and <traditional> breakfasts, along with our freshly brewed coffee (regular and unleaded!) [swg]


Daily Wisdom

When you come to a fork in the road, take it. (Yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

(1) Today is the Grand Re-opening of The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! Box office opens at 5 PM (Central time.) Double feature with a live stage show in between the flicks! [yeah]

(2) Have you taken the time to read about ”Our” Place’s RR Book Relay[?] If not, check page 213 for “I have an idea!”

(3) Back to our weekly routine (check page 213 for bar hours & food service):

. . . Wednesday is “Pike Perspectives Day” at the bar. Time for all model railroad hobbyists to discuss and display a couple of pix. [tup]

. . . Thursday is Fish ‘n Chips Nite! and maybe something from Chief Chef [C=:-)] Nick [dinner] Dinner at 5 PM.

. . . Friday is Pizza Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite! [dinner] Dinner at 5 PM.

. . . Saturday is Steak & Trimmin’s Nite! [dinner] Dinner at 5 PM.

SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 00:36:00 (214) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(2) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 00:40:32 (214) Inclusive Post, etc.

(3) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 00:51:42 (214) Six Pix!

(4) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 01:05:26 (214) Eight Pix!

(5) barndad Doug Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 05:25:53 (214) Six Pix!

(6) barndad Doug Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 05:27:15 (214) Eight Pix!

(7) barndad Doug Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 06:01:21 (214) Thru the mail slot!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 09:15:03 (214) ENCORE! Eight Pix! Part I

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 10:45:29 (214) ENCORE! Ten Pix! Part II

(10) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 11:02:34 (214) Thru the mail slot!!

(11) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 12:32:14 (214) Thru the mail slot!

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 12:40:03 (214) ENCORE! Eleven Pix! Part III

(13) barndad Doug Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 14:12:00 (214) Four Pix!

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 14:50:48 (215) ENCORE! Ten Pix! Part IV

(15) modelrailroadernut (none) Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 15:14:34 (215) What[?]

(16) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 15:20:51 (215) Clock question

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 18:06:33 (215) reply to Theodorebear

(18) siberianmo Tom Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 18:33:08 (215) ENCORE! Four Pix!

(19) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 20:51:22 (215) Four Pix!

(20) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 23:43:39 (215) Three Pix!

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)] Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 9, 2006 5:49 AM
Good morning Tom and friends! I'll have two light breakfasts and a Twinkie. Gotta watch my weight ya know. Great pix yesterday Tom, Rob,and Rus. I really enjoyed them. Hope your feeling better Rus. Doesn't sound like you're going to be roping calves anytime soon.

Speaking of general health, here's some insurance claim payouts from the past:

Claims Paid by the Accident Insurance Department During June, 1931

$307 Carrying ashes out of home
$92 Setting hand brake
$103 Piling wood in garage
$110 Getting out of car, tripped on wire
$35 Cinder in eye, on duty
$38 Fell on greasy pavement
$32 Caboose hit by cars
$68 Sliver in hand
$40 Getting off train
$17 Piece of steel in right eye, on duty
$375 Unloading way freight
$296 Unloading merchandise
$203 Automobile accident
$139 Ladder on which he was standing broke
$107 Moving truck at home
$71 Repairing rain pipe at home
$34 Fishing, bit by insect
$28 Letting off hand brake
$35 Finger caught under derail
$17 Hand caught in end gate of mail car
$17 Riding on engine step, heel crushed
$110 Going down basement stairs
$82 Ball of switch fell on toe
$67 Splitting wood at home
$700 Getting on train
$53 Getting off cab, step broke
$111 Stumbled over low switch stand
$222 Standing on coach step, struck by express truck
$125 Getting on moving cab, fell
$89 Struck on head by water tank spout
$57 Rough stop of train; 64 cars, 1 engine
$32 Climbing on car
$46 Motor boat accident
$75 Latching coach trap door
$45 Sand blew in eye
$332 Getting off train to throw switch
$594 Getting off passenger train
$30 Catching train, fell from cab
$92 Slipped on ice
$75 Adjusting locking block
$57 Running to head end of train
$25 Brassing car, bar slipped
$71 Loading cream into baggage car
$71 Getting on foot board of engine
$62 Stumbled on uneven walk
$57 Block of wood fell from car
$25 Slack ran out; 87 cars, 1 engine
$671 Fell from train
$400 Knocked down by car when cranking it
$192 Caught between apron and tender
$139 Setting hand brake
$150 Train derailed
$520 Brakeman stepped on toes
$50 Cab hit by a cut of cars
$25 Running to catch caboose
$50 Climbing up to see if box car was empty
$57 Unloading freight, gang board slipped
$1300 Foot caught in wire, fell
$107 Stepped in uncovered hole
$117 Getting on cab, fell to ground
$62 Knocked off the top of box car
$57 Catching train after closing switch
$53 Unloading car of cinders
$1500 Died from results of fall over switch stand
$1500 Lost sight of right eye

The time to secure the protection of the Accident Insurance Department is before you have an accident


[:I] my personal favorite was the insect bite ... have a great day! [:I]

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