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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 6, 2006 11:18 AM


Belated [bday] coalminer3 CM3!! 59 IS old!


Now, let’s continue having some fun at CM3’s expense! [yeah][wow]<why not[?]>

PART II of II



One day, two rednecks named Bubba and Earl were driving down the road, drinking a couple of Buds. The passenger, Bubba, said "Lookey thar up ahead Earl, it's a po-leece roadblock! We're gonna get busted fer drinkin' these here beers!" "Don't worry Bubba," Earl said. "We'll just pull over and finish drinkin' these beers, peel off the label and stick it on our foreheads, then throw the bottles under the seat." "What fer?" asked Bubba. "Just let me do the talkin', okay?" said Earl. They finished their beers, threw the empty bottles under the seat and slapped the labels on their foreheads. When they reached the roadblock, the sheriff said, "Have you boys been drinking?" "No sir," said Earl, "we're on the patch."


Q. What is the West Virginia state flower?
A. The satellite dish!

Q. Why do birds fly upside down through West Virginia?
A. There's nothing worth pooping on!


You know a computer is owned by a West Virginian if...

The mouse is referred to as a "critter."

The keyboard is camouflaged.

There is a Skoal can in the CD-ROM drive.

There is a gun rack mounted on the CPU.

The password is, "bubba."

The numeric keypad only goes up to six.

Outgoing faxes have beer stains on them.

The printer goes really slow since Bubba don't read too fast.

The extra RAM slots have Dodge truck parts installed in them.

The menus all have Budweiser, Black Label, and Old Milwaukee options.

Jeff Foxworthy *.wavs.

The monitor is up on blocks.

Seven blue tick hounds under the desk.

Deer jerky is in the desk drawer.

The screen saver consists of pictures of Ned Beatty with dueling banjos playing in the background.

The six front keys have rotted out.

John Deer Pocket Protectors.


Dumb West Virginia Laws

• No children may attend school with their breath smelling of "wild onions."

• When a railroad passes within 1 mile of a community of 100 or more people in it, they must build a station and stop there regularly to pick up and drop off passengers.

• It is illegal to snooze on a train.

• Doctors and dentists may not place a woman under anesthesia unless a third person is present.

• According to the state constitution, it is unlawful for anyone to own a red or a black flag.

• If you wear a hat inside a theater, you may be fined.

• Roadkill may be taken home for supper.

• Whistling underwater is prohibited.



West Virginia Computer Terms

BACKUP - What you do when you run across a skunk in the woods

BAR CODE - Them's the fight'n rules down at the local tavern

BUG - The reason you give for calling in sick

BYTE - What your pit bull dun to cusin Jethro

CACHE - Needed when you run out of food stamps

CHIP - Pasture muffins that you try not to step in

TERMINAL - Time to call the undertaker

CRASH - When you go to Junior's party uninvited

DIGITAL - The art of counting on your fingers

DISKETTE - Female Disco dancer

FAX - What you lie about to the IRS

HACKER - Uncle Leroy after 32 years of smoking

HARDCOPY - Picture looked at when selecting tattoos

INTERNET - Where cafeteria workers put their hair

KEYBOARD - Where you hang the keys to the John Deere

MAC - Big Bubba's favorite fast food

MEGAHERTZ - How your head feels after 17 beers

MODEM - What ya did when the grass and weeds got too tall

MOUSE PAD - Where Mickey and Minnie live

NETWORK - Scoop'n up a big fish before it breaks the line

ONLINE - Where to stay when taking the sobriety test

ROM - Where the pope lives

SCREEN - Helps keep the skeeters off the porch

SERIAL PORT - A red wine you drink with breakfast

SUPERCONDUCTOR - Amtrak's Employee of the year

SCSI - What you call your week-old underwear


West Virginia Jokes

Did you hear about the New 3 Million Dollar West Virginia State Lottery?
You get 3 dollars a year for a million years.

Why do folks from West Virginia go to the movie theater in groups of 18 or more?
17 and under not admitted.

Why did OJ Simpson want to move to West Virginia? Everyone has the
Same DNA.

Did you hear that the governor's mansion in West Virginia burned down?
Almost took out the whole trailer park.


Two West Virginians are walking down different ends of a street toward each other and one is carrying a sack. When they meet, one says, "Hey, Tommy Ray, what'cha got in th' bag?"

"Jus' some chickens."

"If I guess how many there are, can I have one?"

"I'll give you both of them."

"OK. Ummmmm......, five?"


A West Virginian came home and found his house on fire, rushed next door, telephoned the fire department and shouted, "Hurry over here.

My house is on fire!"

"OK," replied the fireman, "how do we get there?"

"Say, don't you still have those big red trucks?"


The West Virginian and his gal were embracing passionately in the front seat of the car.

"Want to go in the back seat?" she asked.

"No," he replied.

A few minutes later she asked, "Now do you want to get in the back seat?"

"No," he said again, "I wanna stay here in the front seat with you."


A West Virginian hitchhiker was picked up by a guy in a big Lincoln Continental. The West Virginian noticed a bunch of golf tees on the front seat and asked, "What are those things for?" The driver said, "They're to hold my balls while I drive." "Boy," exclaimed the West Virginian, "these Lincoln Continentals have everything, don't they?"


Happy Belated Birthday! [bday] CM3!!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, January 6, 2006 1:16 PM
Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang and a special belated happy birthday wi***o CM3 on his 59th. Time for a CR and a round for the house and the birthday boy should receive a double.

Just stopped by the house for lunch and remembered to check postings.

By the way 59 is old if you are of the female persuasion If male its only the beginning of second childhood.

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 6, 2006 2:29 PM
G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #55

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the The Pullman Company from a 1946 advertisement in my personal collection.

1 Pick the place you want to go and write for reservations. When you get word there’s room for you, see your railroad ticket agent and . . .

2 Reserve Pullman space for a trouble-free trip that will get you there safely – in more comfort than you’ll get going any other way!

. . . . . How to start on your vacation . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . WITHOUT A WORRY IN THE WORLD . . . . . . . . . .

3 No worry about weather, roads or mountains in an all-steel Pullman car. Pullman’s been the safest way of going places fast for more than 80 years!

4 No worry about privacy or sleep. Your air-conditioned Pullman space is all your own, with big, comfortable beds it’s a joy to stretch out in!

. . . . . . . . . . WHEN YOU GO ON YOUR VACATION . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GO PULLMAN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
THE SAFEST, MOST COMFORTABLE WAY OF GOING PLACES FAST! . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, January 6, 2006 2:50 PM
Good Afternoon Barkeep and All; coffee, please, round for the house and here's some $ for drink and food for later this evening, and some $ for the jukebox. Sad to hear abt Lou Rawls' passing - what a set of pipes he had.

I appreciate the festive garb on the bar staff - strategically placed hard hats and kneepads are always in the best of taste. I won't ask where/how they wear the battery pack and the SCSR.

Some more 'puter definitions from this part of the world.
Hard drive - Getting any place around here
Hardware - New overalls
Winders - A Microsoft-based operating system.

For chef nick - Tomatoes around here are called "'maters." BTW roof bolts or used drill steels make great 'mater stakes.

Again - thanks for all of the toasts, etc. I surely do appreciate all of you as IMHO, this is quite simply the best forum out there - and boy, is is "out there" sometimes.

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Posted by jlampke on Friday, January 6, 2006 2:55 PM
Afternoon Tom and everyone present. First off, again, Happy 59th Birthday to CM3!! (What the heck IS your name??) Make mine a double Absolute & grapefruit, and a round for the boyz.
[bday] [bday] [bday] [bday] [bday] [bday] [bday]
I stopped in at 0745 PST (or so) this morning, then had to leave the desk and wasn't able to return until just now (1245 PST). We're bringing the plant up and will be shifting to ship's power later today.

I'll try to get back in a little while to partake in the festivities.

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 6, 2006 2:56 PM
G'day Gents!

As you can see, I'm still here ... plans changed, as this coming Tuesday will be my day of absence from behind the bar. Given that Cindy is now back at her university job, I'll have to find someone to watch the store. We're going to miss that gal 'round here. [tup]

Hope your day is going well, CM3 and that perhaps this will be your day for unveiling your true identity! [yeah] As you can see, a couple of guys have wondered 'aloud' about it! [swg]

Received your Email BK and my response is one the way. Any time you find yourself within reasonable distance from where I am, you are most welcome. [tup] Glad to learn that your extended time away has turned out so well. Then again, how could you miss[?] A great gal by your side, the Province at your disposal, nary a care in the world worth fretting over - I'd say you've had the world by the proverbial "short hairs!" [swg]

Here's a thought to ponder: My first new car purchase was a 1957 Studebaker Silver Hawk. Today, we arranged to have new floor coverings for 3 rooms at a cost of over double of what that Hawk cost me! Amazin' eh[?] No doubt there won't be anywhere near the fun with the carpet and tile in comparison with that great car! [swg]

Ted Appreciate your taking over as Party Coordinator for Nick. From what I am observing, the Characters from "Our" Place are well "into" the festivities, amongst other things! <grin> Why even Awk is decked out with a party hat! I like that festive look to Tex the Armadillo's armor plate! Nice touch with the flowers and smiley faces. [swg]

I hear music from the back room and it appears that "someone" has shown up, there's banjo, guitar, fiddle and piano just goin' at it big time. Listen closely and I think a bit of Jew's Harp as well. [yeah]

All kidding aside, WVA is a pretty place to visit, just love the topography. I've driven it east-west, west-east, north-south & south-north many a time in all seasons. One MUST pay attention to those hairpin curves, especially at night (back in the days BEFORE Interstates!). Met a gal from Huntington, a long, long time ago ........ story for 'nother time and place, maybe at the Rendezvous! [swg]

CM3 Enjoyed your Post! Informative, humorous and good natured! We'll "save" the round for the house until AFTER the Birthday Bash! The quarters however, have been deposited into Herr Wurltizer's Coal Scuttle! Many thanx! [tup][tup]

So, let's see - we've had a smattering of representation throughout the day. Adding in the "snippets" included in an earlier Post, I'd say CM3 has had quite a bunch of well wishers! [tup][tup][tup]

Al Thanx for the round! [tup] Can always count on having that bell rung when you stop by ... but as with my comments above, we'll "save" it for after the Bash!

A bit of "Our" Place Trivia - Who had the first Birthday Bash at "Our" Place[?][?]

Later!


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 2:56 PM
Barndad - Is that the Illinois Railroad Museum???
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 6, 2006 3:07 PM
G'day!

Well, once again it pays to stick around AFTER making a Post, for I've "picked up" a couple along the way! That "reload/refresh" feature just doesn't fail! [tup][tup]

CM3 Appreciate your 2nd Post of the day and once again another round - more money for the Bash! and Coal Scuttle - what a guy! [tup]

John Was hoping you'd stop in and understand the need for "duty first." [yeah] Been there, done that! [swg] Thanx for the round as well! [tup]

CM3 Hadn't heard about Lou Rawls - great entertainer, always enjoyed watching and listening to him, especially in his earlier TV years.

John As with you, I thought fer sure today would be the day CM3 would "reveal" himself. <huh[?]> Didn't happen - yet.

Okay, Gents, just wanted you to know that you been "duly acknowledged!" Done this day, by my hand ....... [swg]

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 6, 2006 3:13 PM
Note to anyone Posting as texxn22 did:

I'd be surprised if you get an answer. Why[?] Because we don't communicate that way on this thread. We are inclusive here - we don't Post without first finding out what has been said and by whom, along with what may be going on. One-way Posts are simply not acknowledged.

You and any other adult wishing to join in are most welcome - however, from your Profile, there isn't much to go on.

Check out the way we do things (start at page one!) and you'll figure it out. Best to simply send him an Email

Tom [4:-)] [oX)] Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
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Posted by BudKarr on Friday, January 6, 2006 3:41 PM
Hello Captain Tom and party animals!

I happened to be on line again this afternoon, conducting some "company business," when I decided to skip on over here to see what was going on.

Good exchanges, for the most part - and of course yet another intruder from that world out there of the ignorantly blissful. No apologies from me to anyone who gets offended by that, for I have zero tolerance for jerks, no matter how they are wrapped.

You are a good sport, Mr. Coalminer3 - but what IS your name? <grin>

Captain Tom, that newspaper of yours is a priceless piece of sheer enjoyment! We have had several laughs over it, and the previous two editions, since our return. Where in the world do you come up with so much diverse and entertaining thoughts? I have two tickets for the Monday evening Gala at the "Emporium," and was wondering whether there is even a glimmer of a chance to get up into the balcony? <grin>

I could not let this day pass without letting you know how very much this place means to me and my "break" from reality! Combined with these many weeks here in beautiful Alberta with an equally beautiful and charming lady, laughing, loving and living has really taken over a part of my life yearning for just those commodities. "Our" Place has helped, immensely. Thank you all.

Looks like I will be flying to Europe next week to begin a round of final trips in this, my 2nd attempt at permanent retirement. Right now, my departure from Alberta is slated for Wednesday, so there will be time to communicate a bit more before then.

So, to the cast of characters, staff and regulars, enjoy this fine day and the weekend to come. I will do my best to impart a word or two before taking my leave.

A round on me for the house if you please!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 4:24 PM
I am assuming things will pick-up as the day wears on.[tup] I wanted to rcognize trolleyboy Rob's fine posting on the various Canadian traction and passenger car manufactureres. I had no idea there were so many and while the transition from "horse cars" to "street cars" was common place, some other transitions seem downright bazaar. Nice Al, glad you could return for an obligatory salutation and a cursory nod of approval on the day's festivities. Tom, Its time for another toast to our honored guest and our "man of the hour," CM3. In a labrynth of "dry," nearly sterile Threads; imature volatile postings; "sappy" cliqui***opics; isn't it nice to have a comfortable, steady minded place to "hang our hats?" Here is to one of the "mainstays" who's contributions make "Our" Place the refuge it has become. Hear, hear. Great Auntie Ellen's unmentionables! It can't get any better than now. Canadian traction, the B. & O., the Santa Fe Kcity Cheifs, GN, New Haven "race track" R.D.C's followed now by the luxury of Pullman varnish.[^]

BK, good of you to remember this occasion and hopefully, our members will profit by your example.[:-^] Alberta seems a wise choice for unencumbered retirement without the many distractions that too often displace the serenity we have earned. I'm guessing the Summers there are second to none. I see the Coal Scuttle has been enriched with Canadian currency and coin and it is appreciated.[tup]

I've been watching an A & E Channel docu. entitled "Murder on the Rails" which focuses on the darkest side of our mutual regard for R.R.ing. The "occult" bands of R.R. Hobos have been infiltrated by the most vile sort of refuse society has to offer. There is now "no hono(u)r among thieves" and the "Jungles" have become rife with homicidal gang members with the ignoble true wayfarer as their prey.[V] I seem to remember a 1940s movie that featured Joel McCrea caste as a Journalist turned drifter to see if the "free spirit" could be an idealic life style. If memory serves, it was a pretty good comedy. That brings to mind the opening of MV's "pride and joy," the Emporium Theatre gala opening on Monday Jan. 9th. Leopold Stokowsy's (Leonard Stoakes) grand Nephew will be at the Wurlitzer Theatre Organ of 32 pipes, 4 keyboads, 30 stops and 24 pedals. Make your reservations now at the M.V. Volunteer Fire House and Chinese Laundry to "see and be seen." The creme de la creme of the Village will be in attendence, so let's stow the golashes, work gloves and coveralls for one night and act like we got lotsa class, okay? NO, Vito "the hit" has not been invited.[tdn] Okay Boris, I think I'll hit the Champagne fountain and buy a round for all present soBRONG-G-G...Nick...for cryin' out loud.[:(!]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 5:13 PM
Aha, does May 17th, 2005 "ring a bell?" NOT YOU BORIS! It should for you Tom as I think your lovely Spouse "spilled the beans" to Nick who, in turn, made impromptu arrangements for a Ba***hat left all of us reeling for a fortnight. Okay, have a good'n' folks, I'll be taking a Hack from here this boozy evening. Happy rails.
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 6, 2006 6:48 PM
Evenin' Gents!

An observation: Generally when "editing" a Post several hours after the fact can have a couple of unintended consequences: (1) When logging into thread, one is 'taken' back rather than forward (2) A chance to miss the Posts that have been made later than the one "edited." Best to simply Post a new thought ....

Okay, Gents: The Birthday Bash for CM3 is officially over! As he requested, the festivities were to take place during the morning and (early) afternoon. So, Boris ring that bell - we have several rounds on the house to dispense![yeah]

Ted Some "good stuff" in your afternoon contributions! [tup] And you are CORRECT, Sir, May 17th was the date my bride 'spilled the beans,' but the first Ba***ook place on May 18th - my 67th Natal Day! That set the stage for the development of our Birthday Watch List! and the many celebrations to follow! [swg]

Now, WHO was the first Customer to have a BASH! after mine[?][?]

Ted My tankard is hoisted in honor of perhaps one of our earliest and most appreciated customers - CM3!!!. How very fortunate we are to have him as one of our own! Consider these fonts of RR knowledge: passengerfan Al - West Coast S Dave - trolleyboy Rob and coalminer3 CM3 and you just KNOW this is a thread set apart! The "archives" speak for themselves. [tup][tup][tup]

Sorry to have to break the news, BUT - The Second National Bank of Mentor Village owns three of the private boxes at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre. Given that Vito the Hit is also Bank President, CEO and HMWIC (head man what's in charge), it will be virtually out of the question to prevent him from attending our Grand Re-opening. HOWEVER, you are CORRECT SIR, he was NOT invited. [8]

BK Always good to have you pop in on us and your efforts here and on my "other thread" are greatly appreciated! [tup][tup] From the gist of what you have told us, retirement is imminent. That cannot be all bad! Finding someone special to spend your future with and in a place you enjoy being in means EVERYTHING! Believe me, I know it - I'm living that experience! [tup]

Thanx for the continuing kind words and I'm especially pleased that you and your "significant other" (name[?][?]) enjoyed The Mentor Village Gazette!


Enjoy the evening, Gents!

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Posted by West Coast S on Friday, January 6, 2006 7:47 PM
Afternoon Tom and the gang...Digressing back a few days, I have some SP in Utah info to adress the open question...First a round of JB if you could be so kind.

The most noteable abandoment in Utah was the orginal route around the north end of the Great Salt Lake, the location where the last spike was driven in 1869. Under the Harriman regime in 1904, a series of wooden trestles, totaling 42 miles in length was built across the lake.

Central Pacifc/Southern Pacific downgraded the Promotory line to branch status upon directing traffic over the new line, except for emergency detours and Western Union wire trains it saw very little traffic. In 1942 Western Union had relocated its wires and there was no longer a need to keep the line. Scrapper Hyman Michaels was awarded the contract to remove the rails for use by the US Navy at the Hawthorne, NV. Weapons Depot, local ranchers were encouraged to salvage all timber structures, at their expense, for their own use, many timber bridges were soon reduced to firewood and fencing.

Change is everything, so it came to pass that the 1904 trestles became too expensive and structually unsound to warrant expensive repairs, thus Morrison Knudson was awarded a contract to replace it with a soild fill, the new line was opened for revenue service in October 1959, until the eighties the wooden trestle, stripped of all rails and decking was allowed to succumbed to the elements, after the great flood of of 1983, which severly dammange the 1959 causeway and sent bridge timbers from the abandoned span crashing into moving trains, SP had private contracters remove the remaining structure for whatever salvage value was to be had.

While it existed,it was necessary to maintain a train order station until the advent of CTC at a spot called Midlake, built on pilings it had a population of 24 persons at one time and also contained a passing siding and housing for section crews and bridge inspectors.




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Posted by jlampke on Friday, January 6, 2006 7:58 PM
Evenin' Tom, the usual for me and a round for those present, please.

Dave; VERY interesting, and thanks for answering my question. [tup] I'd like to get out there
with a tour guide who knows the history of the line for a tour. [tup] Kind of like the URL
I posted a few days ago.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 6, 2006 8:17 PM
Good evening Tom and friends. I'll have some rum n' eggnog please. I can't believe I missed CM3's belated party! Now what am I going to do with the W.V. holiday deer and birthday cakes I brought?

Anyhow, happy belated BDay CM3. I liked your roadkill story, and other W.V. lore.

Nice W.V. jokes Tom .... they were jokes .... right?

Very interesting reading on the Great Northern Railway Al. I really need to assemble all your streamliner posts. I sure appreciate the information you share.

I want to agree with Ted on his assesment of Rob's fine post on Canadian traction and passenger car manufacturers. For me, it would take a flow chart to see how all the companies evolved.

I recently aquired several 1931 issues of "The Railway Conductor", which was the official publication of the Order or Raliway Conductors of America. I'll be looking for articles that will be of interest to our group.

Good night for now!
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, January 6, 2006 10:52 PM
Gentlemen!

Leon the Night Man has the bar until closing.

Nice to see a bit of a crowd at the bar on this Friday night. Doug - Dave and John Thanx for the rounds!

It's been an interesting day, somewhat perplexing in a few cases, but nonetheless, anohter Birthday Bash! is by the boards! Thanx to all who helped make it a good day for our friend CM3! [tup][tup][tup]

Boris Ring it for a round on me!

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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:01 AM
Good evening Tom and all the rest of you who are still vertical <grin> I'll pick up a round and have a Keith's myself. I can tell by the debris that a good time was had by all,apparently even poor Tex is a bit under the weather judging by his rather gaudy paint job and the fact he's curled up under that bright red bar stool.

CM3 Glad that you had a good birthday bash,sorry I couldn't make it for the main festivities,so allow me to pick up your tab the next time you are in. I'm humbled that you deemed the manufactur's list worthy of archieving.I am able to gleen a bit of usefull trivia now and again from the museum's archieves living ( founding members what seen it all ) and paper ( books, documents etc etc ) Ted and Doug I'm glad that the two of you enjoyed it as well. It really has been a fun and informative day today[tup] Most of those companies were of the fly by night nature,some endured for many decades the rest were sold reformed and in some cases forgotten, such is the way of things I suppose.

Tom I'm not sure how many blues you will get out of me in May. alot of the overtime will be spent on a new car. heather's troublesome Neon is on it's last legs. terminal oil leaks of every description, I'm giving it two months tops. luckily for me my best man from our wedding is a VW dealer so he's on the case as they say.

From what I can tell, alot of those craftsmen from those plants either moved on to furnature companies ( carpenters from the wood builders ) or to various other factory jobs. I imagine that alot of them are no longer with us,as alot of those companies ceased to be shortly after the first world war. ( I'm sure many of them were lost that way as well )

To take a crack at your second birthday bash question, I'd hazzard a guess that our good manager Ted was the recipient of said honour.

BK Good to hear that you had an enjoyable extended break. Here's hoping that this retirement will be the retirement for you once your final duties are discharged. I wish you much luck in settling into your new prairie home once the retirement is official. Who knows our next PM may just be from your new adopted home.

' Al Glad that you were able to join in with the festivities,tax season preperations aside. Nice info on the CN passenger conection as well.


Dave Nice info on the west again my friend. That "tressely" not a word but sounds "railroady" strikes me as not being to disimilar from CPR's Kettle Valley line in BC what with all the wooden bridges,and interesting operations. [tup]


Boris wake up and wring your dingaling, another round for those here assembled !

Again happy belated [bday] to CM3 Our international man of mystery. [swg]
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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:10 AM
Hello Tom seems the winning of the Witt motors woke you up again. That or you are still abit woozy from the party still and are looping in the subway train for the third or fourth time. [swg] Anyhow allow me to start off the encore day ( Sat here already at any rate )

ENCORE Classic Juice # 11 CNR Electrics as originally posted on pg 163

Enjoy again Rob


QUOTE: Originally posted by trolleyboy


Classic Juice # 11 Electricity and the big roads in Canada Part 1 CNR

The CNR had dabled in electrification over the years, Mostly in the pre-CNR days. The Grand Trunk on several occations dabbled with traction usually with predictable results ( they gave up and dieselized )

The GTR's first flirtation was in 1902. They purchased a small radial line the Hamilton,Grimsby & Beamsville.They did this to keep this interurban out of arch rival Canadian Northerns Hands who themselves were starting to amass a lot of samller lines electric and otherwise. (The irony of this of coarse is that both these roads failed and were the main components of the Candain National Railway.)

Three years later GTW sold this electric line to Cataract Power( ontario based electricity and traction company. The Brantford and hamilton was part of this group as well ) after losing interest in traction.

The very next year 1906 GTW purchased the Montreal and Southern Counties which had been incorporated in 1897 but has yet to start construction. The affair wasen't rushed no construction began really until 1909, even then it was slow and steady. The MS&C never reached it's intended target of Sherbrooke by 1925 when construction officially ended they were a 58 mile interurban. Sevice was discontinued in 1956.

The only mainline electrification Grand Trunk ever undertook wasthe St Clair Tunnel, this was only done after two fatal incidents with crews of steam engines asphyxiating in the 6,032 foot tunnel under the river.The tunnel was built in 1891 but even though desugbners said that electricity ws the way to do it the process was expensive so GT opted for athrasite burning 0-10-0's and a set of fans.The first accident occured in 1897 the second in 1904. So the electrification finally took place in1906 completeing in 1908. A four mile electric zone !The tunnel bed was lowered by CN in 1941 to increas capacity and lesson ferrry trips of frieght cars it was formally dieselized in 1958. Of coarse the whole tunnel was replaced in 1992.

The last major attempt at electrification by the Grand Trunk occured in BC. This was to be part of the Ill fated Grand Trunk Pacific.The Line between Prince Rupert BC and Fort Frasor was to be electrified do to the tunnels. The line started in 1905 with the last spike of the GTP layed in manitoba in 1914. Do to the lack of money the electrified portion never occured, Blasting of tunnels and some daylighting of the line was done instead at a far greater cost.The GTR bankrupsy of 1920 occured shortly after this second transcontinintal line was completed.

CNR's other predessesor the Canadian Northern also flirted with electrification.Most notably they began construction in 1912 the Mount Royal Tunnel in Montreal even though the co was racked with debt.

The CnoR felt that the tunnel has to be built because they had pooraccess to the city centre, as their terminus ws Morell street well east of downtown wher rivals CPR and GTW were located.With a population of 600,000 and being Canada's major seaport at the time the CnoR felt that money troubles or not they needed the access to Montreal to survive.

The new twin tracked tunnel ( under the city and the competition )was 3.3 miles and lentgh and was to be electrified.The electrification was to extend several miles beyond the tunnel . At Portal Heights the west side of the tunnel a station linkinf th CnoR with the CPR running above was to be built. A model town called Mount Royal was built to feed passengers to this new line.It ws laid out neatly with wide roads high quality houses etc and the roads wer paved with the stone excavated from the tunnel.The idea was that the inhabitants iof this new town werea ten minute ride to downtown via the CnoR's new electric line.


The project looked good on paper but by the time it was completed in 1918 the CnoR no longer existed. IT had been combined with tthe Candian government railways to form the new National Transcontinental and Inter colonial Railway. which in 1921 was joined by the defunct GTW/GTP to become the Candian National Railway.


What happened to the Mount Royal line? It's still around CN actually extended it Catenery and all to St Eustache & Deux montagnes. This comuter line is still operatied under the wire by CN for the Montreal transit authority !

The national harbour board electrics from the Port itself and the NS&T in Ontario wer also members of the Candian Northerns elctric lines and thus became CN property in 1921. The Mount Royal tunnel was demolished in 1943 and replaced byCN's Central station now the location od Place Boneventure. in 1964 montreal's subway system connect her with th electric MU coaches and Via trains,

At only 28 miles this electrified route certainly isn't the most impressive but it still operates today. heres how the rest of the CN electric lines panned out.


Toronto & Eastern ( ex CnoR ) aquired in 1917 abandined in 1924
Chatham Walaceburg & Lake erie ( ex CnoR )aquired 1917 abandoned 1930
Toronto Suburban Railway( ex Cnor ) aquired 1917 abandoned 1931 *
Shawinigan Falls Terminal RY ( ex GT joint CPR ) aquired 1950 dieselized 1958
Montreal & Southern Counties( ex GT ) service ended 1956
St Clair tunnel line ( ex GT )aquired 1920 dieselized 1958 largly unused 1992
Quebec Railway Light & Power Co (interurban ) Purchased 1951 dieselized 1959
Niagara st cath & Toronto ( ex CnoR )purchased 1917 dieselized 1960
Fort William hump yard trolley built 1924 discontinued early 60's
Cornwall Street Railway- bought and dieselized in 1971( freight only after 1953 )
London and Port Stanley bought 1966 alrady dieselized-largly abandoned
Mount Royal Tunnel Line(ex CnoR ) began 1918 operated for STCUM since july 1 1982

Rob

a Post script. You will note that I marked the Toronto Suburban Railway with a *This is becaus eit's not totally abandoned. The TSR was an interurban joining Toronto and Guelph on.The TTC still operates some of it's city trackage. In 1954 our museum's founding fathers bought up the portion of the line that we run on. we had to completely relay the track and catenery but I supose we do occupy the original ROW so that at least is note worthy.
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:32 AM
<yawn> What[?]!

It's beginning to become a habit - I'm awakened by that "sound" of a trolley car passing by, even feel the vibes .....

So, it IS you, Rob! Thought perhaps we'd not be graced by our Bar Chandler this fine night (now early, early morning!).

Good guess, but no cigar! The very first customer to be feated with a Birthday Bash! was: earlydiesels Dan on June 24th! How quickly time passes and things change.

I know you've had a busy time of it and that makes your appearance here even more appreciated! [tup] Nice ENCORE by the by! [tup]

Now look, Mate - there better be some Blues lined up in May, for I'll have one terrible thirst on that Thursday the 11th! [swg] This talk of this 'n that, all designed to get you off the hook - no way, Jose! [swg]

Really haven't got much to add regarding the Birthday Bash and I may ship off an Email to the IC regarding my thoughts. There were some surprises along the way, fer sure, fer sure. However, CM3 was properly recognized and we now move on .... a revised Birthday Watch List! comes out on Monday.

Time to try it again! [zzz]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:36 AM


SATURDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

We open at 6 AM all time zones! (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Good Morning! What better way to start the day than to try some of our pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery with a cup of our freshly brewed coffee. Oh yes, we are now serving <traditional> and <light> breakfasts, check ‘em out on our Menu Board![tup]


See page 208 for the current issue of The Mentor Village
Gazette



Daily Wisdom

If the world were perfect, it wouldn’t be. (Yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

(1) Today is ENCORE! Saturday. Which means, dig through your ‘archives’ and come up with a Post or two worth repeating! [tup]

(2) Tomorrow is Sunday Photo Posting Day! Let’s make this a successful event through active participation by more than one or two![tup]


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 01:15:32 (212) Friday’s Info & Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 06:48:09 (212) CM3’s Birthday Bash! Part I

(3) passengerfan Al Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 07:24:31 (212) Streamliner #38

(4) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 08:30:42 (212) Acknowledgments, etc.

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 09:11:54 (212) CM3’s Birthday Bash! Summary

(6) BudKarr BK Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 09:32:00 (212) Back again, but not for long!

(7) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 10:28:38 (212) Inclusive Party Post!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 11:18:48 (212) CM3’s Birthday Bash! Part II

(9) passengerfan Al Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 13:16:09 (212) Bday greeting!

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 14:29:03 (212) NOSTALGIA #55 – Pullman Co.

(11) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 14:50:48 (212) 2nd Post today!

(12) jlampke John Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 14:55:18 (212) Bday wishes, etc.

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 14:56:07 (212) Acknowledgments, etc.

(14) texxn22 (None) Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 14:56:35 (212)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 15:07:02 (212) Acknowledgments, etc.

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 15:13:10 (212) For texn222

(17) BudKarr BK Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 15:41:32 (212) 2nd Post today!

(18) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 16:24:07 (212) Inclusive Post, etc.

(19) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 17:13:05 (213) Bingo!

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 18:48:32 (213) Acknowledgments, etc.

(21) West Coast S Dave Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 19:47:03 (213)

(22) jlampke John Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 19:58:55 (213)

(23) barndad Doug Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 20:17:34 (213) Inclusive Post, etc.

(24) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 22:52:38 (213) Acknowledgments, etc.

(25) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 00:01:31 (213) Inclusive Post, etc.

(26) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 00:10:50 (213) ENCORE! Classic Juice #11

(27) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 00:32:17 (213) reply to trolleyboy

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:07 AM
Good morning Tom and fellow sleepy-heads. I'll take aspirin in bromo-seltzer please ...too many Ho-Hos, Twinkies and beer from CM3's bash I suspect. Could someone please unplug the Bluegrass music too ... my hair hurts. You know, I vaguely recall CM3 telling me his real name, family history, social security number and shoe sizes last night, but I just can't remember what he said anymore. [xx(]

Oh well ...on with the day! Good to see you this a.m. Mr. Rob ...even if you are fuzzy and slanted.

I'm finding a few interesting (to me anyway) articles from my new (1931) magazines. Here's a sample:

From the pages of “The Railway Conductor” September 1931

Russia Offers Jobs to 10,000 American Railroad Men

Jobs for 10,000 American railroad men are offered by the Russian government, which is modernizing its 50,000-mile system – the world’s largest rail system under unified control – according to John Austin in the September “Railroad Man’s Magazine.” “Applications are being received at the rate of 200 a day,” says G.D. Ulanov-Zinoviev, head of the People’s Commissariat for Transportation, U.S.S.R. with offices at 245 Fifth Avenue, New York City. More than 250 Americans have already gone over. Wages offered are said to be the standard American scale, but living conditions are inferior and Russian railroading is scarcely out of the pioneer stage. Mr. Austin also warns of difficulty in exchanging rubles for dollars.

The U.S.S.R. railroad system has about 1,400,000 employees. Its budget allots $3,500,000,000 (three and one-half billion dollars) for modernization under the Five-Year Plan, based on recommendations made by Ralph Budd, president, Great Northern Railway, St. Paul, Minn., who inspected the Soviet lines a year ago.

Asked about opportunities for Americans in Russia, Mr. Budd said: “Some men go there and seem to get along reasonably well; others are greatly dissatisfied. I believe the only way for those contemplating such employment is to make application and base their decision and action on the negotiations and terms which they are able to make with the representatives of the Russian railways.”

[:I] I guess if you were desparate enough, you could stay alive [:I]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:39 AM
Good mornin' all of you "walk and wounded" from the Bash. Not to worry, Tom made a large cauldron of Bloody Marys for "sick call" as each post celebrant arrives, Cheers.[:O] I'm having a Berliner jelly filled tort and green tea this a.m. Tom. Hmmm, $12.60 seems excessive for a taxi ride of 3 blocks to my house. He must have taken the "Gorge route."[:(!] Sure will be glad when I can take the 'D' train instead.[^] Saturday, so it must be steak and Pizza. I'll order a deep dish "wit da woiks" later.

Barndad, that field dressed Deer is a Doe (out of season) better "pull the plug" before Warden MacTavish sees it.[swg] Yet another good reason for an "adult only environment." Don't need no irrate Mommas calling the S.P.C.A. when Junior complains about "Bambi."[:D] Looking forward to the "Railroad Conductor" series. I was lucky to know (casually) a Pensy passenger Conductor on the N.E. Corridor while living in MD. Wow, the srories he could tell, 'nough to embaress a Bedouin.[}:)] Rob, it is good to know that at least some remnant of the original TSR still survives and in the good hands of your Museum personnel.[tup] Today, the two incidents of asphyxiation due to smoke inhalation in the tunnels seems "out of the stone ages." But, we all too often forget just how "seat-of-the -pants" R.R.ing was a mere 90 or so years ago. That is why these reoccuring Nostalgia and Encore pieces are vital to the format of this Thread. Many thanks to all who provide such esoteric information for us to reflect upon.[tup][tup][tup] [#oops]Didn't mean to wax philosophic so early. Must've been something I drank last night?[:O]

Westcoast S Dave, was "Midlake" literally 'midlake?' If so, imagine 24 souls riding out severe storms in the middle of the Great Salt Lake sitting on nothing but match sticks and bean stalks.[V] So John, looks like its bon voyage very soon, eh? Let me know if your ship ever makes port in Florida. Maybe I could stow-away for a couple of weeks to some exotic locations "on the cuff?" I'm a retired "Ground Pounder" don't cha know? Come to think of it my passport has expired, forget it![:(] Still, give me a toot on the Bosun's (boatswain) pipe and maybe we can hoist a grog or three if time and tide permit.[tup] Pensacola is a hullva drive from here, the Miami area would be shorter.

Tom, I gotta say that pix of the Elk behind the Park Observation dome is the most forlourn looking critter I've seen. Reminds me of when I missed a train in Chicago during winter time...horns and all.[:D] Okay Boris, get the lead out and the brass in for pealing the bell. Ding, ding ding...dong. Oh no! Did Rob replace the P.C.C. chimes for old 101 again?[banghead] Happy rails all.
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:45 AM
Good Morning!

To kick off this ENCORE! Saturday, here's a refresher for one and all regarding "Our" Place!

The Hours and Food Service at "Our" Place

We open at 6 AM - Monday thru Saturday - close when the last man standing has departed (or fallen!).

CLOSED on SUNDAY's and CHRISTMAS Day

The Food Service at ”Our” Place –

Monday thru Saturday: Light and Traditional breakfasts – bakery goods from The Mentor Village Bakery and sandwiches all day long made from the freshest lunchmeats in the county along with freshly baked bread for the grinders/hoagies/heros/subs……

.... NO evening meals Monday thru Wednesday.

Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips nite and Nick’s Picks or whatever our Chief Chef [C=:-)] conjures up!

Friday: Pizza nite – steak ‘n fries and…….

Saturday: Steak ‘n fries and ……..

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment![4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:50 AM
And another "refresher" for those who read the Posts at "Our" Place!

The Top 15 Contributors to ”Our” Place through Page 200:
(figures in brackets denote number at Page 100)

1st Theodorebear Ted 363 [199] (includes previous cyber names used at ”Our” Place)
2nd trolleyboy Rob 359 [155]
3rd nickinwestwales Nick 264 [120]
4th passengerfan Al 261 [146]
5th West Coast S Dave 120 [71]
6th Gunns Kevin 116 [89]
7th Trainnut484 Russell 115 [83]
8th coalminer3 CM3 103 [37]
9th earlydiesels Dan 100 [73]
10th pwolfe Pete 100 [32]
11th barndad Doug 95 [33]
12th wrwatkins *** 73 [58]
13th CFournier 71 [61]
14th BudKarr 46
15th ftwNSengineer P 37

Proprietor: 1593 [789]

Thanx to all for making this the place to be for Classic Trains information, conversation and good times! [tup][tup][tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:52 AM
And my last Post for this morning, again for those who take the time to read these Posts:

The Cast of Characters from ”Our” Place

siberianmo Tom is the Proprietor and head bartender. [4:-)][oX)]

Theodorebear Ted is the Manager.

nickinwestwales Nick is Chief Chef. [C=:-)]

trolleyboy Rob is the Bar Chandler.

Boris is - well, he’s Boris who works in the kitchen and anywhere else needed. He was hired by Nick, Chief Chef and is assistant cook. He’s not too hard to spot, as Boris is not of this world. Kinda difficult to maintain eye contact with him. He’s playful and unaware of his strength. We do not permit him to tend bar – however, he loves to ring the bell when a round is purchased.

Tex the Armadillo is Boris’ pet!

Awk the Parrot is Tom's pet!

Leon the Night Man is Tom’s relief behind the bar around 9 PM or so, Central Time. He closes up. He’s easily recognized by his rather large size, enormous hands, and shiny brand new Jump Boots. Leon also serves as Doorman and Bouncer for special events and may be seen in a tuxedo – with Jump Boots of course.

Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary and his earstwhile friend and companion Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator make up the security force ‘round here.

The Gals of “Our Place” are:

Ruth the redhead – Ann the blonde – Lucy the brunette and Jemima the raven haired beauty. These gals were found and hired by Tom and named by Nick. They work evenings, pretty much anywhere in the place, Thursday thru Saturday, and special events. Look, but don’t touch – at least not while on duty!

Then there’s Cindy with the auburn hair. She’s a faculty member from the Mentor Village all female University – right up the road. She’s not paid, but loves to volunteer her services either behind the bar – for me – or in the kitchen, with Nick. She’s also active in the local Victoria’s Secret lingerie shows …….

Then of course, there are all of YOU!

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
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Posted by West Coast S on Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:08 PM
Morning Tom and the gang...Coffee and some Mentor Bakery goodies if you please.

Ted and the enjoyment of all.. Midlake was at the exact halfway point, built onto the side of the bridgework, many stories have been passed down of life at Midlake, severe storms and salt laden winds and generally unpredictable track conditions and zero visibility weather often required track walkers to proceed on foot ahead of every train, how's that for a job? Restricted to 15 mph, it took some time to complete the crossing. In 1983 heavy runoff and severe rain caused the lake to expand to such a point that the causeway had to be raised thirteen feet, the contractor hired to do the job was unable to stem the tide, Utah installed massive pumps to divert water to the normally dry salt flats, meanwhile SP detoured over the former WP line, until the pumping threatened this line as well.
SP brought in the Donner Pass snow fighters to contain the flooding and stabalize the causeway, they got the job done in forty two days, reopening long shuttered quarry pits and relaying a portion of the orginal line to Corrain to get to the pits, Montello NV, on the western shore became ground zero for the stagging of equiptment and workers, endless trains of boulders, gravel and rip-rap moved 24/7, Santa Fe and Chicago North Western side dump and ballast cars were leased to augment the Southern Pacific's and contractor supplied equiptment, , long unused maintaince of way equiptment was resurected, SD7/9s-geep nines were reassigned to handle the work specials and Jorden spreaders were brought in to plow out the mud and muck, now you know why the Donner Pass Snow fighters were assigned the task. To add insult to injury, Donner had a record snowfall that year caused by the same front that had wreaked such havoc in Utah that added to the manpower shortage and taxed availible equiptment, patience and dollars to the limit.

The orginal trestle was anchored by Goat Island and Promotory Point, so there were a few sections of dry land to which the residents of Midlake could flee in an emergency as did occure a few times in its history.
Built of stout redwood, salvaged from closed California Mines, the salvaged rights were sold for a mere dollar.

I recommend a trip to the area, the former right of way is maintained by the county as rural roads for ranchers. The National Parks service has desginated Goat Island as a perserve for migrating birds and at Promotory a one mile section of track was built for the 1969 centenial and a replica Jupiter and 119 operate in the summer for the pleasure of vistors, you can even view a reinactment of the driving of the gold spike and interpetive signs to guide the vbisitor abound on the former, historic route.

Well, looks like i'm needed elsewhere at the moment. Borris that BETTER be coffee!!

Until later

Dave
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:21 PM
I have an idea!

Several months ago, a friend sent me a book featuring pictures of some fantastic railroads throughout the world. As time has passed, I have been thinking that we could have some fun with this book by sending it to one another, with it ultimately being returned to me. So here’s the deal:

(1) If you would like to participate in this RR Book Relay send me your mailing address by Email. As always, I guarantee strict confidentiality, and will use it only for the purpose of forwarding the book.

(2) Once received and read, the recipient MUST make a comment or two inside the front cover, including the date received and from whom. (ex: Received from Tom on Jan 28th, 2006. Particularly enjoyed …….)

(3) I will ensure that all participants receive the mailing address for the next mailing.

(4) The last person on the “list,” then sends the book back to me.

What do you think[?] Sounds like fun to me![tup][tup][tup]


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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:16 PM
G’day Gents!

Here we are, Saturday and a delightful rather clear and warming afternoon in mid-continent USA. Don’t even want to discuss the Petrol prices up at “Collusion Corner!” UP is the word for the day! [tdn] is the sentiment! <frown>

A statement from the Proprietor:

Gentlemen of the bar! Some of you are not reading the SUMMARIES and perhaps all of the Posts as well – and it shows!. Two significant “glitches” were revealed yesterday when some glaring omissions in recognition were made. Emails have been sent to each.

A reminder to one and all is in order: Recognition from me will be provided to customers only upon evidence that they are willing to acknowledge the other guy and be inclusive with responses. I can understand an occasional ‘slip,’ but when an event has been “advertised” for weeks in the daily SUMMARIES and mentioned repeatedly in Posts from me and others, and still gets ignored, I’d say that is indefensible behavior. Simply put – take it somewhere else if you are unwilling to participate fully with us.

Continuing on, I sincerely appreciate the efforts put forth by those of you who helped make CM3’s Birthday Bash! a success! [tup][tup][tup] There is a strong nucleus keeping this bar ‘n grill functioning and should it come down to just a few, well so be it! At least we’ll know that there is a place to stop in at where the conversation flows freely with reciprocity and inclusiveness prevailing! To blazes with those who march to a drum no one else can hear!

It saddens me to note that a couple of guys who had parties didn’t show up at all. What does that say[?] Not very much in my book. Surely diminishes my opinion of them and that’s the sad part.

To some acknowledgments:

barndad Doug
Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 07:07:31


You are a sick man, barndad Doug! [swg] Ho-Ho’s, Twinkies and beer[?] <Good grief!> Just the thought makes me want to . . . . laugh!

I’ll let you all in on a “secret,” I KNOW CM3’s real name – however, it is up to him to reveal it! And by the by, CM2 may very well have been his Daddy’s name! [swg]

You know, in my take of history, those 10,000 jobs offered by Russia to America came at a time when this country, and the world, suffered from quite an economic set back. All those jobs in a country who had a population much larger than the U.S., but not the expertise to modernize its rail system. Isn’t that the way it goes[?] Throughout our history, we have done this and more over and over, only to have it rammed into where the sun doesn’t shine! Interesting reading – thanx! [tup]

Theodorebear Ted
Posted: 07 Jan 2006, 07:39:47


I’m not too sure that having you navigate subway platforms, late at night, is a good idea. Especially upon leaving this place after a Bash! The Mentor Village Yellow Taxi and Final Resting Place Limo Service is owned and operated by . . . you guessed it: Vito the Hit! I’d say you got off lucky with only the “minimum charge!” Methinks they like you, Mr. Trombonist! [swg]

So, you think that Elk is rather forlorn, eh[?] Perhaps so, but to me, he’s thinking, “What a great looking train! This is one of those times I wish I had thumbs!” [swg] I’ll be changing SUMMARY pix on a weekly basis. Thanx for noticing – you are the first and only to do so! So, what else is new[?] [swg]

Picked up on a little something you mentioned – is your Passport really expired[?] Last time I renewed mine it took about 7 weeks and the office where it was processed was in New Orelans. So, you’ve got plenty of time to get it taken care of before heading to Canada. Yes, no matter what you have heard or been told, they do request Passports and I’ve seen many an American shuffled off to the side because they “didn’t know.” Drivers licenses and retired military ID doesn’t get it anymore.

Your Email response has been received and responded to - Thanx! [tup]


Okay, Gents, back to taking care of business at the home front and here on this Saturday afternoon!


Later!


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:21 PM
. . . . . ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! . . . . .

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads: (first Posted on page 136)

Great Northern(GN)

Headquarters: St. Paul, MN

Mileage:

1950: 8,220

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 642

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 39,055
Passenger cars: 579

Principal routes in 1950:

St. Paul, MN-Seattle, WA via Willmar, MN and New Rockford, ND
Minneapolis-Minot, ND via St. Cloud, MN, Fargo and Grand Forks, ND
Superior, WI & Duluth, MN-Grand Forks via Crookston, MN
Minneapolis & St. Paul-Duluth & Superior via Brook Park, MN
Barnesville, MN-Winnipeg, MB via Ada and Crookston, MN
Portland, OR-Vancouver, BC via Seattle, WA (trackage rights on NP Portland-Seattle)
Willmar-Sioux Falls, SD & Sioux City, IA
Havre-Great Falls-Helena-Butte, MT
Shelby-Great Falls-Billings, MT
Bend, OR-Bieber, CA via Klamath Falls, OR

Passenger trains of note:

Badger (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Superior-Duluth)
Cascadian (Seattle-Spokane, WA)
Dakotan (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Williston, ND)
Empire Builder (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Gopher (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Superior-Duluth)
International (Seattle-Vancouver, BC)
Oriental Limited (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Red River (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Grand Forks, ND)
Western Star (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Winnipeg Limited (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Winnipeg


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

The ONLY way to know what's going on at the bar is to read the Daily SUMMARIES!
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo

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