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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, December 2, 2005 6:31 AM
Good Morning Tom and thr rest of the gang. Time for my usual coffee and diet pastry from the Mentor Bakery.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER #20

CITY OF MEMPHIS Nashville Chattanooga & St. Louis Trains 5-6 Inaugurated May 17, 1947 between Nashville and Memphis round trip daily 239 miles each direction 5 hours each way.

The CITY OF MEMPHIS was the last streamlined Steam powered shop built streamliner to enter service.

The six cars were formerly heavyweight Parlor cars that had been purchased at the beginning of WW II for conversion to coaches. When streamlined in 1947 the cars were among the finest RR conversions ever streamlined. The NC&STL shops outdid themselves in craftsmenship and attention to detail. When the six cars were completed the revenue capacity of the train was 204. The new CITY OF MEMPHIS lasted well past the takeover of that road by the L&N. The old Pacific that was streamlined to pull the train was thoroughly shopped and roller bearings were installed on all wheels. The streamlining itself of the locomotive was different than most and vccan best be described as a modified Bath tub design.

CONSIST OF CITY OF MEMPHIS

535 Streamlined K-2d 4-6-2 Pacific Locomotive and Tender

1040 Baggage 30' Railway Post Office Car

1100 44-Revenue Seat Coach Buffet 16-Seat Lounge Car

1101 56-Revenue Seat Coach

1102 56-Revenue Seat Coach

1200 24-Seat dining Bar 20-Seat Lounge Car

1103 48-Revenue Seat Coach 10-Seat Lounge Observation

TTFN AL
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, December 2, 2005 7:43 AM
Good Morning!

Another glorious day here in mid-continent USA as the temps are in the high teens (F), hardly breeze and some blue skies peeking through. Was an enjoyable hike through the subdivision with my faithful Husky friend, Juneau. Don’t know how they do it, but he seems to have “measured” his stops quite well, for there’s nothing left upright that he hasn’t “sprinkled.” [swg] That’s a one mile stretch of trees, poles, bushes, etc. Amazin’ ….

What a fini***he bar had last night – crazy day and one that simply illustrates you never know here at the “Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill!” [tup][tup] to all who made the day a resounding success – especially those who came back twice or thrice. [yeah] Once per day may not be sufficient in order to keep up with what’s goin’ on these days (daze)!

A decision has been made regarding TWO “things” pertaining to the bar – watch for the Post!


Okay – to the acknowledgments:

pwolfe Pete
Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 21:53:23


The “official” distance is 335 miles (539 km) from Toronto to Montreal. You can travel this by VIA Rail along the “Corridor,” which is about a 5 hour trip. Check it out at www.viarail.ca – go to reservations and the rest is self explanatory.

Not to worry regarding the pix for Sunday – I’m lookin’ forward to a relaxing day. Compiling them takes quite awhile – so we’ll see what develops from the other guys. [tup]

That’s pretty interesting “stuff” regarding the PRR S-1. I wonder how many “innovative” design alterations can be traced to a “fluke” such as the one you described [?] Appreciate the insight … [tup]

Can always count on your for Fish ‘ Chips Nite! Even Rob – who I think started all of this – doesn’t seem to have an appetite on Thursdays! <grin>

trolleyboy Rob
Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 22:44:12 and 23:33:56


QUOTE: …. not like Tom I'm glad that you have joined our little band of rabid train guys.
<huh> [?][?] Don’t follow this one …. [%-)][%-)]

I see that you just couldn’t control yourself and just had to Post two Classic Juice pieces within the same day. Thanx a lot, Mate. I owe ya! <grrrrrrrr>

Given the enormous amount of interesting and factual “stuff” being Posted ‘round here, one only wonders if there’s a thread on ANY forum on ANY web site to rival us [?] Outstanding work, gents. I really appreciate those of you who not only check in to partake in the bar banter, but also contribute to the point of it all – the discussion of Classic Trains! That’s precisely why this thread was begun – that along with a place where one could “escape” the inane crap goin’ on elsewhere. Our inane crap is so much more enlightening! [swg] <grin>

passengerfan Al
Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 06:31:28


Good show with the City of Memphis “Streamliner” piece. [tup] I’ve read about the conversion of those cars. It was quite an undertaking fer sure, fer sure.

So, what’s goin’ on out there on the “left coast” [?] A bit early ya, isn’t it [?] We don’t open up ‘til 6 AM – all times zones! so, I’m afraid you’ll have to sit on the porch – or in your car! [swg]


Okay, Gents – I’ll be behind the bar all day.

Later!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 2, 2005 7:51 AM
Morinin' all, Tom, its too early for anything more than a tumbler of grapefruit juice and dry, rye toast. [Does anyone know why this citric is called "grapefruit?] Anyhow, I've picked-up a Florida version of "Snow Bird" Flu and there is nothing for it but to "ride-it-out."[V] Rob, Al, Dave, you guys always come through with the "goods."[tup]

The Soo Line has always been a "shadowy" Road in my recollections. I am now beginning to understand why. It appears the Soo didn't really go anywhere but for the connections with other Roads. Still, you gotta love these dated advertisements, touting their TLC for the passenger market. Nick, definitely another one for the wine cellar archives. I was feeling too puny to take advantage of this "jewel in the crown." BTW, what province in China did you learn these culinary arts? Must've been Hong Kong or Singapore.[swg] Wanswheel, now we have another esteemed contributor who chooses to wax poetic, great.[^] Pete, it is incredible how many technical improvements came by way of accidental blunders, isn't it?

I hate to come to the table with nothing but "my hat in my hand" today. Regretably there may be a period of absence until I can shake the "chills and spills" that come with this infirmity. Until then, I'll try to stay current via "browsing" through the daily postings. Stay well and take that vitamin C gents. Happy rails.
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, December 2, 2005 8:07 AM
. . . . . . . . . . CONTEST – CONTEST – CONTEST . . . . . . . . . .

A few months ago we celebrated “turning our 100th page on the Forums. Many had openly criticized our thread through some rather caustic comments elsewhere. Some said we wouldn’t survive, others wished that to be the case. Well, guess what [?] We’re heading toward page 200!

It’s time again to play the guessing game! What date (time optional) will ”Our” Place reach the next plateau – page 200 [?]

PRIZE [?] Free food ‘n drink for any of the following days: Thursday (Fish ‘n Chips Nite) – Friday (Pizza and Steak ‘ Fries Nite) – Saturday (Steak, etc.)

BONUS question: WHO will be the one to “turn the page” [?]

PRIZE [?] Reservations for two in the Penthouse Suite for any weekend night of your choice!

So, let’s get it started – it’s “easy” to play and doesn’t cost a thing, other than your time.

RULES: No ties gentlemen. The FIRST one who Posts a guess that hits the mark, wins! It’s that simple.


Sample submission for question and BONUS:

Dec 17th (noon) and Trolleyboy (Rob)

Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, December 2, 2005 9:56 AM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . MARK YOUR CALENDAR! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Monday, December 12th represents the 8th Month Anniversary of ”Our” Place! An appropriate way to celebrate our “founding day” is to Post information relating to travel by rail during the Christmas holiday season!

With ample time to prepare, I would expect we will all find something suitable for this event. An advertisement, an article, a personal account – anything at all that will bring to light a trip or two by rail during the Christmas season.

That’s it! Nothing more to do. No “party” per se – it’s not a birthday celebration – just an opportunity for us all to recognize this achievement we’ve all contributed to. [tup]

Looking forward to the Posts on the 12th!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by red p on Friday, December 2, 2005 9:58 AM
Morning Tom and the rest of the bar crowd you know the deal, Coffee black and a blueberry bagel.

Tom - as far as Factual stuff goes, I was posting on a simular thread in another forum. Got out of there because it the only thing they talk about (so it seems) is the weather. I do still check in over there every once in a while, but it seems that some of the treads over there are a total waste of internet !

ok, now that thats out of the way
I got an email a while back ago about consists on trains 40 & 41 "The Broadway Limited" I recieved the following info which is a good study of comparision from the 1966 consist and the consist about 3 months from the discontinuation of service.

July 12,1966 @ Harrisburg
GG-1 4916
Baggage Mail 6568
10-6 Park Rapids
4-4-2 Imperial Fields
10-6 Delaware Rapids
10-6 Catawissa Rapids
12Dx-4 HH Brackenridge
11BR Elberton
5BR-Lng Harbor Cove
Diner 4620
Kitchen Dorm 4621
4-4-2 Imperial Ridge
10-6 Fishing Rapids
10-6 Comeaugh Rapids
2MR DR Obs Mountain View


about 3 months before discontinuation of service
Sorry, I dont have the date
F40PH x 2
MHC x 6
Baggage car x 6
Heritage 10-6 Crew Dorm
amfleet II coach x 4
amfleet II Lounge
Heritage Diner
Heritage 10-6
Heritage Slumbercoach (24-8)
P

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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, December 2, 2005 10:53 AM
Good Late Morning to All; coffee, please, round for the house, and $ for the jukebox.

Lovely day here: A little snow, ice, a 7 tractor trailer pileup on the WV Turnpike, folks in the ditch everywhere, etc. Then one of my buddy's van caught fire on his way home from work last night and burned to the frame. Other than that it's pretty quiet.

The P Company consist from 1966 was most interesting. Many pleasant memories of rides in the Elberton and more than a few of the Rapids cars listed.

I'll have some more on the "City of Memphis" as soon as I can dig onto the stack of stuff.

BTW, I was browsing through a VIA folder last night and wondered about the Renaissance sleepers. They are all-room cars if I understand the diagram correctly? I am sure somebody can enlighten me on this.

The material on the SOO lIne sent me back to a 1930 era ORG. They had a 10-page entry in the book with extensive sleeper service to points throughout their system along with a bunch of branch line trains; it kind of reminded me of the C&O back in the day where every "holler" had at least one train a day.

Trains 62 and 63 listed the following consist operating between the Twin Citiies and Duluth: Buffet-Library Observation; Parlor Cars; Coaches. Both of these were afternoon runs.

Trains 1-109 and 110-2 "The Winnipeger" were the only named trains I found listed in SOO's entry. They handled the following: "Standard" drawing-room sleepers between Chicago and Winnipeg and Twin Cities and Winnipeg; "observation compartment cars" between Twin Cities and Winnipeg and coaches and a diner between Twin Cities and Winnipeg.

Here's a list of "Major SOO Depots."

Chicago - Grand Central Station
Milwaukee - CMStP&P Depot
St. Paul - Union Station
Duluth - Superior St. and 6th Ave. West
Superior - Winter St and Ogden Ave.
Winnipeg - Main St. and Higgins Ave.

I came across the following hotel ad which I thought you'd enjoy.

"We Cater to the Nation's Greatest Asset, 'The Baby,' at
The Walker House (The House of Plenty)
Cor. Front and York Sts,
Toronto, Ont.
American or European Plan
We pay particular attention to the comfort of ladies and children traveling alone.
The Walker House Cafeteria is open day and night
PURE FOOD AT POPULAR PRICES
Any reasonable request for special food for the baby will be prepared in our dining room without extra charge."

They don't write 'em like that anymore.

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, December 2, 2005 12:19 PM
G’day!

Just got back from my quarterly trip to the Doc’s. Good news is that he now only wants to see me 3 times per year. Awwwwright, progress! Beautiful day out there – blue skies, temps just above the freezing mark (F) and all’s well with the world. Oh [yeah] petrol at “Collusion Corner” now at $1.98 (rounded). Down 2 cents from yesterday. [wow]

Acknowledgments to: Theodorebear Ted – ftwNSengineer P & coalminer3 CM3

Thanks to CM3 for the round and quarters. [tup] I should have Tweeeeted you for Rule violation #1 – failure to greet the barkeep! Oh well …. perhaps some other time. Still have an answer “pending!”

Hope you get over what’s ailing you, Ted

Appreciate the information from CM3 and P – good stuff! [tup][tup]

Okay, Gents – I’ll be behind the bar all day.

Next up, the daily NOSTALGIA piece ......

Later!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, December 2, 2005 12:25 PM
G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #36

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE LAKER . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . CHICAGO – DULUTH – SUPERIOR . . . . .

. . . . . On the Following Fast and Convenient Schedule: . . . . .

NORTHBOUND . . . . . (Daily – Central Standard Time) . . . . . SOUTHBOUND

Lve. CHICAGO . . . . . . . . . . 6 30 PM . . . . . . . . . . Lve. DULUTH . . . . . . . 7 30 PM
Lve. WAUKESHA . . . . . . . . 9 20 PM . . . . . . . . . . Lve. SUPERIOR. . . . . . 8 00 PM
Arr. SUPERIOR . . . . . . . . . .7 48 AM . . . . . . . . . . Arr. WAUKESHA . . . . . 5 40 AM
Arr. DULUTH. . . . . . . . . . . . 8 15 AM . . . . . . . . . . Arr. CHICAGO. . . . . . . .8 15 AM

FEATURES – Pullman Sleepers offering a variety of private rooms (Bedrooms, Bedroom Suites and Roomettes) and open sections.

Dining – Club – Lounge – Complete Beverage Service and the Best Meals on Wheels.



Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

CHECK THE MONDAY SUMMARY and INDEX PAGES FOR MORE GREAT NOSTALGIA POSTS!
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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, December 2, 2005 4:44 PM
Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and around to celebrate DAVE's good news please.

Good post on the Broadway Limited P. Do you know when the GG1s stopped working the service [?].

ROB thanks for the Montreal info and TOM for the VIA link. I thought that the Canadian National Railroad Museum was in a suburb of Montreal but the Montreal web-site makes no mention of it.[%-)]. Can you help. I wonder if the Museum is in reach of public transport[?].

AL and CM3 thanks for the City of Memphis posts. On the subject of Streamlined locos probably the worst looking was on the Great Western Railway of England.it is said that during the 1930s when the L.N.E.R. and the L.M.S. were producing streamline locos the G.W. Board told the Chief Machcanical Engineer that the GW ought to have streamline locos too. TheC.M.E didnt think much of this so he got a model of a King class loco and some plastercine he then made a rounded nose on the smoke box door pinched some plastercine behind the stack and safty valve bonnet then angled the cab front. He then handed the model to the Draughtsman. Luckily only two locos were done like this and the streamlining did not last too long

TOM thanks for the SOO Nostalgia I think the200th will be
DEC20TH by Siberian mo TOM PETE
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Posted by red p on Friday, December 2, 2005 5:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by pwolfe

Good post on the Broadway Limited P. Do you know when the GG1s stopped working the service [?].


No, I sorry I dont
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, December 2, 2005 9:01 PM
What Ho Chaps-Are we all well..?...(apologies to TED notwithstanding)..right [4:-)]TOM,I`ll try a few of those green bottles please,ah good man,nice one-now,whilst I remember,I am sorry to say I have no Xmas rail journey to offer.
However-would a "The worst gig we`ve ever had which happened to be on Xmas Eve" story serve instead.?...please advise.
By the bye-there should be a package of pix landing on your desk sometime soon,will provide captions as required-[^][tup]
MIKE-cover completely blown-will have to refer back to party agent for new strategy---suspect we share a mindset-more than one way to skin a rabbit..[swg]
PETE-Classic fish supper coming up[tup]-As luck would have it,the beer is on as well-given the upsurge in custom in recent weeks,the Can-Am/Cymru Zeppelin line is operating at full capacity with all three craft in the air most of the time..supplies are guaranteed-[^]-P.S-agree about G.W.R streamliners-an unpleasant experiment which served no purpose-give a Swindon engine good shiny Welsh Anthracite to burn and she`ll show all comers
BAR CHANDLER ROB-Its the Sole for you sir-tonight we are serving it on a bed of minced iceberg lettuce with tartare sauce & lemon wedges with baby new potatoes ,baby corn & honey-glazed carrots
SIR THEODORE MANAGER-You have been beset by troubles of late-our thoughts are with you dear boy-dose up & ride it out,might well be awake if sleep eludes you,will return post if so[tup]
CM3-Howdy there ! -Your mention of the V.I.A car interiors struck a chord-Sister sent a load of free promo "bumf" from Toronto Union a few years ago-sure it included `birds eye` views of the car interiors of the V.I.A stock-will report back
RED P-Nice one mate-you`ve got the feel of us,have a Jack & a splash on me [^]-Do you have a regular run you might talk us through.... [:-^]
[4:-)]TOM-before I lose the plot completely,a faintly serious point-You remember we have mentioned layout-design software before....?-Well,have just downloaded that `Trainplayer` program that gives you `live`versions of Linn Westcotts 101 favourite layouts and it comes with a free 10 day trial of `trackplanner`which I have yet to explore,but looks promising-will try to `build` my layout & post it to you-see if it works..
O.K,it`s nearly 3:00 again,I`ve got a gig in Cardigan ( Dodge City ) tomorrow night so expect a garbled message or two at about this time,going to play with my new virtual trainset now,sleep well one & all,nick[C=:-)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, December 2, 2005 10:06 PM
Evenin' - Just a quickie and thanx to those of you who took the time to provide informative and inclusive Posts today. [tup][tup]

Nite! [zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 3, 2005 12:27 AM
Good evening everyone. Tom I'll grab ( likely helping myself ) To a med rare and a rye and coke.

As to your little contest I'm gonna say that it will be you turning the 200th on the 18th noonish. Okay 12:05 if you are going to be picky. [tup][swg] Not sure what happened with that passage Likely lost something in the edit, happens when one is trying to type late at night with a cat trying to sit on your lap. "Should have read not unlike Tom" meaning that i agree with you wholeheartedly or something to that effect.

Nice additional info on the Soo. Seems to be a fav road of yours as of late.

Promise not to give you any more keepers this week. [:-^][:D]



Al Nice add in as always,interesting to hear about the various cars built/rebuilt in house by railroads.

Ted I've always been confused by the grapefruit as well. i've actually been in grocery stores where I've seen them refer to it as a Greatfruit as well. Guess we will never know but to me greatfruit would describe it much better than grapefruit as it's not eevn purple. [swg] BTW get well soon but do where a mask when you are in the bar. God knows what common human germs may do to our resident [alien]

Pete The big museum is at delson which is out by the airport if my geography of Montreal is sound ( never been to the city ) Seems to me our dear departed Chris ( as a participant ) explained where it was. Half hour from downtown if I recolect properly so I would think that there would be bus routes <gag> to the museum.

P Nice comparisin though i much prefer the original consist. Did not the GG1's survive to Amtrak paint in some cases. If that were true than they may well have run the train under amtrk in the seventies. I'm sure al or CM3 may have the answer ( I hope )

Cm3 Hope your friend was allright. Isn't winter weaher fun. no word of a lie the roads here are bone dry but on my way home today I say some twit in a 4x4 put his truck on it's roof. No snow no ice, goes knows what this guy would have done had the weather been truly bad.

Nick Keep the sole comming just love that fish ! Also seen any interewsting snowmen lately [swg][:D][?]

Have a good night everyone. Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 3, 2005 8:04 AM
SATURDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

We open at 6 AM, all time zones. (Don’t ask how we do that!) [swg]

Good Morning!

Few things are harder to put up with than a good example.


Info for the Day:

(1) Saturday is ENCORE! Day
(2) Sunday is Sunday Photo Posting Day! and yes, we are CLOSED!

My guess is that we are NOT going to have much of a Sunday Photo Posting Day! So, there will be a modification to the format – submissions of NOSTALGIA and Fallen Flags are encouraged. [tup] As always, we want to continue limiting the narratives to Monday thru Saturday ……

(3) CONTEST – CONTEST – CONTEST

It’s time again to play the guessing game! What date (time optional) will ”Our” Place reach the next plateau – page 200 [?]

PRIZE [?] Free food ‘n drink for any of the following days: Thursday (Fish ‘n Chips Nite) – Friday (Pizza and Steak ‘ Fries Nite) – Saturday (Steak, etc.)

BONUS question: WHO will be the one to “turn the page” [?]

PRIZE [?] Reservations for two in the Penthouse Suite for any weekend night of your choice!

RULES: No ties gentlemen. The FIRST one who Posts a guess that hits the mark, wins! It’s that simple.

Participants . . . . . . Date chosen . . . . . . . . (Bonus) Who will put us over the top [?]

pwolfe Pete . . . . . . . Dec 20th . . . . . . . . . . . . . .siberianmo Tom
trolleyboy Rob . . . . . Dec 18th (12:05 PM) . . . . . siberianmo Tom


(4) MARK YOUR CALENDAR!
Monday, December 12th represents the 8th Month Anniversary of ”Our” Place! An appropriate way to celebrate our “founding day” is to Post information relating to travel by rail during the Christmas holiday season!

With ample time to prepare, I would expect we will all find something suitable for this event. An advertisement, an article, a personal account – anything at all that will bring to light a trip or two by rail during the Christmas season.

That’s it! Nothing more to do. No “party” per se – it’s not a birthday celebration – just an opportunity for us all to recognize this achievement we’ve all contributed to. [tup]


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 05:43:15 (180) Friday’s Info & Summary

(2) passengerfan Al Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 06:31:28 (180) Streamliner #20 – City of Memphis

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 07:43:16 (181) Acknowledgments, etc.

(4) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 07:51:12 (181) Inclusive Post!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 08:07:10 (181) 200th page contest

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 09:56:15 (181) Mark Your Calendar!

(7) ftwNSengineer P Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 09:58:04 (181) Broadway Limited, etc.

(8) coalminer3 CMS Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 10:53:50 (181) Soo Line, etc.

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 12:19:51 (181) Acknowledgments, etc.

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 12:25:31 (181) NOSTALGIA #36 – The Laker

(11) pwolfe Pete Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 16:44:27 (181) Inclusive Post, etc.

(12) ftwNSengineer P Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 17:07:08 (181)

(13) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 21:01:57 (181) Inclusive Post, etc.

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 02 Dec 2005, 22:06:34 (181) Nite! [zzz]

(15) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 00:27:08 (181) Inclusive Post, etc.

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 3, 2005 8:08 AM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! ENCORE! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . First appeared on page 118 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific (The Rock Island)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage in 1950: 7,579

Locomotives in 1963: Diesel – 539

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars – 26,690; Passenger cars – 646

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Omaha, NE
Omaha-Colorado Springs & Denver, CO
Davenport, IA-Tucumcari, NM
Bureau Junction-Peoria, IL
Minneapolis, MN-Kansas City, MO
Manly-Burlington, IA
Cedar Rapids (Vinton), IA-Sioux Falls, SD
Keokuk, IA-Bear Lake, SD
Tucumcari-Memphis, TN
Herington, KS-Houston, TX
Little Rock, AR-Eunice, LA
Kansas City-St. Louis

Passenger trains of note:

Choctaw Rocket (Amarillo, TX-Memphis)
Corn Belt Rocket (Chicago-Omaha)
Des Moines Rocket (Chicago-Des Moines, IA)
Golden State (Chicago-LA; joint ops w/SP)
The Imperial (Chicago-LA)
Kansas City Rocket (Minneapolis-Kansas City)
Peoria Rockets (Chicago-Peoria)
Texas Rocket (Ft. Worth-Houston; then Kansas City-Dallas)
Twin Star Rocket (Minneapolis-Houston)
Quad City Rocket (Chicago-Rock Island)
Rocky Mountain Rocket (Chicago-Colorado Springs & Denver)
Zephyr Rocket (Minneapolis-St. Louis; joint ops w/CB&Q)

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, December 3, 2005 9:05 AM
Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Just time for a coffee and a diet pastry from the Mentor Bakery.

Just been called out of town will not be back until thursday so will leave with this special Streamliner Corner.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER #21

TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED New York Central trains 25-26 New York - Chicago overnight 970 miles 16 hours. All Pullman All Room deluxe streamliners inaugurated June 15, 1938.

On June 15, 1938 the most famous train in America at the time the all Pullman all room extra fare pride of the New York Central System TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED began streamlined service.

The all new all room Pullman Standard built trains numbered four so that if needed an extra section could be operated daily if needed.

Not only did the NYC receive 62 new lightweight streamlined cars for the new TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED but also ten streamlined J3 4-6-4 Hudson Locomotives and Tenders for assignment pulling the new TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED numbered 5445 - 5454.

The TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED was the world's first lightweight streamlined all room sleeping car trains to enter service. The rival PRR BROADWAY LIMITED inaugurated all room Pullman service on the same date but that trains consists had a couple of modernized heavyweight cars in each consist.

The TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITEDS streamlined Hudson Locomotives were operated between Chicago and Harmon pulling fourteen car consists sometimes extended to sixteen cars. It was not at all unusual for two sections of fourteen cars each to be operated in each direction on ten minute headway on the fast sixteen hour schedule assigned to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED.

The TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED was one of only four streamlined trains in the United States to ever carry Master rooms the most luxurious Pullman accommodations of all complete with bathroom annex with shower. The other three streamlined trains to
operate with Master rooms were the PRR BROADWAY LIMITED, PRR LIBERTY LIMITED and Southern CRESCENT.

The NYC selected famed industrial designer Henry Dreyfuss to to design the new paint scheme and interiors of the feature cars, not to mention the magnificent streamlining of the Hudson Locomotives. The completed train sets were among the most tastefully designed and decorated ever constructed. The paint scheme of the new TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED was light gray overall with a dark blue window band with two white stripes centewred in this window band and a small white separation stripe between the blue and gray at both top and bottom of the window band. Unfortunately management never repeated the paint scheme on any other equipment and even felt it was a bit gaudy for a train of the TWEENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED prestige.

CONSIST ONE DEPARTING CHICAGO June 15, 1938

5450 Streamlined ALCo J3a 4-6-4 Hudson Locomotive & Tender

5017 Baggage 60'Railway Post Office Car

CENTURY CLUB 18-Crew Dormitory Barber Shop Secretary Room Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Observation.

IMPERIAL CANYON 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE DAWN 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF DAYTON 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

ONANDAGA COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

IMPERIAL FALLS 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

680 38-Seat Dining Car

IMPERIAL PALACE 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE RIPPLE 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF BOSTON 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

DUCHESS COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE GLEN 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

BEDLOES ISLAND 1-Double Bedroom 1-Master Room Buffet 22-Seat Lounge 10-Seat Lounge Observation

CONSIST TWO DEPARTING CHICAGO JUNE 15, 1938

5448 Streamlined ALCO J3-a 4-6-4 Hudson Locomotive & Tender

5018 Baggage 60' Railway Post Office Car

CENTURY INN 18-Crew Dormitory Barber Shop Secretary Room Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Car

IMPERIAL CASTLE 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE GLORY 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF DETROIT 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

COOK COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

IMPERIAL FOREST 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

681 38-Seat Dining Car

IMPERIAL GARDEN 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE VALLEY 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

CUYAHOGA COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE GLADE 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

MANHATTAN ISLAND 1-Double Bedroom 1-Master Room Buffet 22-SEat Lounge 10-Seat Lounge Observation

CONSIST THREE DEPARTING HARMON JUNE 15, 1938

5449 Streamlined ALCO J3-a 4-6-4 Hudson Locomotive & Tender

5019 Baggage 60' Railway Post Office Car

CENTURY LOUNGE 18-Crew Dormitory Barber Shop Secretary Room Buffet 25-SEat Lounge Car

IMPERIAL COURT 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE VIEW 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF ALBANY 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

MONROE COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

IMPERIAL MANSION 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

682 38-Seat Dining Car

IMPERIAL ARCH 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE VALE 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF ROCHESTER 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

LUCAS COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE ROCKS 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

PELEE ISLAND 1-Double Bedroom 1-Master Room Buffet 22-SEat Lounge 10-Seat Lounge Obsrvation

CONSIST FOUR DEPARTING HARMON JUNE 15, 1938

5447 Streamlined J3-a 4-6-4 Hudson Locomotive & Tender

5020 Baggage 60'Railway Post Office Car

CENTURY TAVERN 18-Crew Dormitory Barber Shop Secretary Room Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Car

IMPERIAL CHATEAU 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE WOODS 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF CHICAGO 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

NIAGARA COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

IMPERIAL BAY 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

683 38-Seat Dining Car

IMPERIAL HOUSE 4-Compartment 2-Drawing Room 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE SPIRIT 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF BUFFALO 17-Roomette Sleeping Car

WESTCHESTER COUNTY 13-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE GROTTO 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

THOUSAND ISLANDS 1-Double Bedroom 1-Master Room Buffet 22-Seat Lounge 10-Seat Lounge Observation

TTFN AL Be back on Thursday

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 3, 2005 2:00 PM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ENCORE! ENCORE! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . First appeared on page 110 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Here’s another Fallen Flag from The Official Guide of the Railways – Aug 1956:
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Missouri – Kansas – Texas Railroad (MKT – KATY Lines) [img]

On hand reference material does not provide a detailed equipment listing, however there are some items of interest:

Headquarters: St. Louis, MO

Passenger trains of note: Katy Flyer – The Bluebonnet – Texas Special

Slogans: The KATY Railroad – Natural Route Southwest.

….. Only ONE COUPON is required for passage between any two points on MISSOURI – KANSAS – TEXAS LINES.

….. “Texas Special Route – Frisco – M-K-T Lines” from St. Louis to Dallas, Fort Worth, Wichita Falls, Waco, Temple, Austin, San Antonio, Houston and Intermediate points.

….. Specify Katy’s New Fast Service – 17 hours – Kansas City to Dallas - Fort Worth. Second Morning Delivery from Chicago Via C.B.&Q. – Kansas City – M.K.T.

Advertisements: Route ‘em Katy Southwest

….. On The Famous Streamlined Texas Special

Luxury sleeping car and coach accommodations, nationally famous diner meals please every taste, every budget. Friendly, attentive service in an atmosphere of restful comfort. Through sleeping cars to and from Chicago, New York, Washington and the Metropolitan East, via the St. Louis gateway.

Daily between St. Louis and San Antonio.

….. On The De Lux Texas Bluebonnet

Bedroom and Section accommodations available between Kansas City, Forth Worth, Dallas and San Antonio. Roomettes between Kansas City and Dallas; Diner-lounge car … traditionally superb Bluebonnet diner meals. Dallas and Fort Worth passengers particularly appreciate the “just right” overnight Bluebonnet schedule. You retire at your usual bedtime, arrive refreshed and rested

Short line between Kansas City and the principal cities of Texas (daily).

Famous Meals a feature of Katy Dining Car Service!

Breakfast .75 to $1.75

Luncheon $1.20 to $2.50

Dinner $1.20 to $5.50

Know Your Pullmans

All regularly assigned sleeping cars on Katy-Lines are numbered. Car 16, for example is invariably a 14 Roomette, 4 bedroom cars, operating on the Texas Special between St. Louis and Dallas. Reservations are made accordingly.

On these pages sleeping car numbers are featured for your guidance. It is a good idea to check your reservations to be sure your space has been properly assigned.

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, December 3, 2005 6:54 PM
ENCORE ! ENCORE ! ENCORE !
A Classic juice Encore on this Slow saturday


QUOTE: Originally posted by trolleyboy


Hello again. Here is the first installment of the lesser known radial lines. classic juice #4

The Brantford and Hamilton B&H



The B&H ws one of the smallar interurban's or radial lines built in Ontario. As the name would suggest they conected the city of Hamilton to the City of Brantford approx a 30 mile run.It was first proposed in 1896 as the Hamilton Chedoke& ancaster Railway. The federal govt guarranteed a $15,000 subsidy once the railway made it to Ancaster.


Anyone familiar with this part of Southern Ontario will know that this line would fight up grade and cross the top of the Niagara escarpment. despite the promissed fed funds no work was started. In 1900 the line came under the control of the Haines bros of New york who were putting together radial lines conecting Niagara- Hamilton-Brantford.They changed the name to the Hamilton Ancaster and Brantford and by early 1904 they had aquired most of the ROW.They ran into problems with money on their american lines in NY state and lost their interest in the Hamilton line and the Niagara St Catharines and Toronto which they owned at the time.( This is why the NS&T never reached toronto by rail )They sold their interest to the Von Echa company in 1904 and by 1906 they started to build the line now known as the Hamilton and Brantford.


Grading began in july of '06and the line was built to high standards ala the L&PS.A short piece of street track from the Hamilton terminal station followed a ledge cut into the face of the escarpment, and ran on a long continuous 21/2% grade up to Ancaster 600kw substations were built for traction power at Ancaster langford,and Murray street in Brantford. Each building had two 300kw gens with room to add one more for future expansion. Power was brought in from the Decew falls hydro plant.The line was opened to ancaster ion Dec 21 1907,and to Brantford in may of 1908. The initial runs to Brantford ended until a crossing of the Grand trunk line in the city was constructed. Other than two short street lines into Brantfords market street Union station and the short stretch in Hamilton outside of terminal station the B&H ran on entirly private ROW.


Total cost of the line was estimated at $800,000.Between 1911 and 16 they looked at expanding to Galt and Preston but this line extension was never built. Instead interline tickets were sold for conections with the Lake Erie and Northern Radial and the Grand River Railway. They also sold tickets in conjunction with the Hamilton steamboat company so passengers could connect to Toronto. The interchaange with the LE&N ws interesting in that the LE&N ran on 1500v. Therfore the market street stations power could be switched over from 600 to 1500 to accomadate both lines cars. This resulted in a 35 min layover for B&H cars which had to lower their poles while the LE&N was using the station.Light frieght and express mail was also carried but the B&H after the war fare increases were required to make up for revenue losses. In 1925 the B&H ws almalgamate dinto the Hamilton Radial railway so cars would run through from Burlington and Stoney creek.

This also brought busses into the picture. In 1930 Dominion power the overall owner sold their bus and rail lines so abandonement occured in 1932. To show the lines viability ( most people beleved the B&H could have run anothetr 15 or 20 years } Their first year 1908 they moved 247,200 passengers there was an upward trend until the peak in 1920 of 836,100 fares. after which the numbers dropped in half on average.In 1929 thought with the bus lines fares went back up to just over 800,000.,but in 1930 that dropped to 228,300.


The line ran with a dozen cars built by kulhman ( brill ) these were wooden monitor roofed railway style cars dt de The designed speed was 50mph Non-stop test runs covered the thirty mile line in 37 minutes! not bad for 1908! 6 express motors built by ottawa 3 cars and preston 3 cars these rounded out the fleet. In the last 4 years of operation most of the Dominion powers cars could be seen on the B&H.

Of a non important note my house is about 500 yards from the old Grand river barge canal in Brantford. The canal bank carried the private ROW of the B&H!
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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, December 3, 2005 8:08 PM
Hi Tom and gang.

I hope you're feeling much better today Ted

Check out Al's departure on the Century. And "Roll out the Red Carpet" on his return. That was a great train. I remember a famous photograph and painting of the two, the Century and the Broadway, peeling out of Chicago on parallel tracks. 40 and more years ago I walked the platform at Grand Central and ate it up, gawked, looked in the windows. It looked so luxurious inside. The chairs in the observation car just looked so comfortable. It made me just want to get on it and go. But nope. The Century always stays perfect in my imagination. It's image never declined, or if it briefly did, that part is forgotten. The merciful coup de grace was 38 years ago yesterday, Dec. 2, 1967, two months before the merger. Bedloe's Island car named for:
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I was in Vietnam then. The merger of the New York Central System and the Pennsylvania Railroad on February 1, 1968 nearly escaped my notice until I came home to a different world. I read in the Stars and Stripes newspaper about Robert F. Kennedy's funeral train, down the old Pennsy tracks on the new Penn Central.
It didn't go well. Huge crowds, a couple people were killed by the train. Awful year.

Another bad year was 1927, not for me but for my grandfather Joe and my great-uncles Dan and Marshall, of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers.
"In the late autumn...all Vermont was visited by the most devestating floods within its history. For three November days and nights it rained, steadily and heavily. The little streams as well as the rivers of the state became raging torrents. Trees, houses, barns, ancient covered bridges, reduced to debris, went swirling down the valleys of the Green Mountain State. Destruction reigned everywhere. The blow did not spare Central Vermont. The road had had an extremely prosperous ten months; it was known that for the first time in many years it would yield a net income, after all charges had been paid. Yet in the passing of but forty-eight hours that dream was shattered. The Central Vermont was all but completely wiped out most of the way from Essex Junction to White River Junction.
Take, for instance, the eighteen mile sector between Williston and Waterbury: For fully three-quarters of that distance the railroad had practically disappeared; embankments washed out, and for miles at a time, the track completely overturned. In the station at Waterbury, the muddy waters at one time reached a point eight and one-half feet above the floor of the waiting room. At Slip Hill, three miles below Waterbury, two thousand feet of track and embankment were washed into the Winooski. A steel bridge at North Duxbury went out, with every one of its five stout spans....
A railroad never gives up. Hardly had the hastily rigged telegraph lines begun to function once again, before relief trains were on their way to the scene of the disaster from every direction, penetrating just as far as track might bear them. They carried steel, timber, ties, ballast men and machines, Before the waters had really receded, over three thousand men were at work, restoring the main line of the Central Vermont. Amongst them was [president of CV] Edward C. Smith himself, watching, suggesting, even taking a hand with the other workers; swiftly and surely forming a railroad once again."
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, December 3, 2005 8:14 PM
Well good evening my lambkins,are we all in good fettle ?-Just returned from another lively evening in Dodge City,happily,and against the run of play,no violent incidents this evening-we even got invited back to play on boxing day (which gives me a very neat get-out clause for working the rugby club bar that day,the busiest day of the year [^] ).
Can`t understand the enthusiasm myself,we were so loud tonight that all I can hear is high-pitched ringing in the ears,and we were behind the big speakers-are these people completely mad...?
Anyway darlin`-enough about me-tell me all about you-how come I`ve never seen you here before--Oi you lot-bu**er off-I`m talking to a lady here,Sorry darlin` they have no manners,please forgive them-can I tempt you to a cocktail or shall we go and grab some fresh air-Splendid idea,O.K. guys,see you all for sunday pix,be good now[swg],sleep well,nick [C=:-)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, December 3, 2005 10:20 PM
Evenin’ Gents!

[wow] Has this ever been a slow day! Can’t recall a more lack luster day at the Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill! Oh well ……. Win some, lose some, and some are rained out! [swg]

Actually, this is just “one of those” weekends. coalminer3 CM3 ‘n West Coast S Dave don’t Post on weekends. earlydiesels Dan is doing his “Conductor thing,”at the Midland barndad Doug is away on a rail trip and Theodorebear Ted is on the Binnacle List. So right there we have 5 guys ‘accounted’ for. Happens. By the by – hope you are recovering from whatever it is that gotcha down, Ted [tup]


Some acknowledgments are in order from today, and maybe even yesterday ….

Thanks for the Streamliner piece, passengerfan Al. Good one! [tup][tup][tup] Those 20th Century Limited consists sure looked mighty fine when powered by the “lightning bolts.” [yeah]

There’s an Email in your “in box.” We'll surely miss you and those rounds of yours .. hurry back! [tup]

trolleyboy Rob Appreciate your participation in our ENCORE! day. If nothing else, it gives the guys a chance to read something they may not have seen before. Which ‘round isn’t too surprising as the “evidence” mounts that there are many pieces of info not being picked up on. Ain’t hard to spot, is it [?] We had this occur some months ago and thought we had gotten over it. Apparently not so. The Soo Line isn’t really a favorite of mine, just happened to come up that way in the “order” of the NOSTALGIA listings that I have. Probably should have separated them out … Appreciate your taking the time to check ‘em out! [tup]

That was a nice touch with the Orange Blossom Special audio piece you provided, wanswheel Mike. For a guy who just a short time ago didn’t seem to know the “on” button from the “off,” you’ve come a long way! [swg] By the by, to communicate with any of the members on the Forums, click on their “cyber name” – then go to “contact info” – click on email – that will bring up a screen for you to send your message.

Those heralds of mine are simply of the roads that I like. When they have been Posted, that’s part of the lead-in. Something like this, “These are not all inclusive heralds and are simply reflective of the RR’s I like.” That’s the skinny! [swg]

Don’t have a clue what you are referring to with regard to who is or isn’t “good looking.” When it comes to that subject – I’ll stick to the broads gals, thank you very much! [}:)][:-,]

My guess is that not too many people know that “Liberty Island,” is really Bedloes Island sitting in New York Harbor. Used to pass it regularly while commuting aboard the Staten Island Ferry. Was also stationed on Governors Island directly across from Statue of Liberty – so all of that brings back some memories. [tup]

Nick You are the Master for sure! Party hardy, Mate and hoist a tankard or two for those who wish you well. For the rest, well ya know where they can go! [}:)][:-,]

Regarding the S Capades tunnel: Yes, there is a “lift out” section of the highway above it – just in case. On the Can-Am, there’s a “pull out” section of scenery for the long tunnel beneath the “Mountain Village.” Thought you “had” me, eh [?][;)]

I received your pix – but I’m really not sure whether I’ll Post ‘em tomorrow. May just take the day off entirely. That we’ll all know when the sun rises …..

Hope that track planning software “works,” for I’d like to give it a try. Thanx for keepin’ me in mind! [tup]


Okay, Gents! Leon the Night Man has the bar! Boris Ring the bell – a round on me! [tup]


Nite! [zzz]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]



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(1) Check to see if you are getting the MOST CURRENT info before Posting.
(2) Check to see if anyone has Posted during the time yours was being prepared.
(3) Stick around a few minutes after Posting, just to ensure that someone may want to “talk” to you or has Posted.
(4) It’s a long wait until your next visit and perhaps by then some pertinent info directed your way will be missed.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 4, 2005 6:48 AM
SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

We open at 6 AM Monday, all time zones. (Don’t ask how we do that!) [swg]

We are CLOSED on SUNDAY’s! It’s also Sunday Photo Posting Day! – so post ‘em if you got ‘em!

As always, for those wishing to drop off a Post, slip it through the slots on either set of front doors! Prompt replies not “guaranteed.” [swg]

Daily Wisdom:

Love your enemies, but keep your gun oiled.


Info for the Day:

My guess is that we are NOT going to have much of a Sunday Photo Posting Day! So, there will be a modification to the format – submissions of NOSTALGIA and Fallen Flags are encouraged. [tup] As always, we want to continue limiting the narratives to Monday thru Saturday ……

(1) CONTEST – CONTEST – CONTEST

It’s time again to play the guessing game! What date (time optional) will ”Our” Place reach the next plateau – page 200 [?]

PRIZE [?] Free food ‘n drink for any of the following days: Thursday (Fish ‘n Chips Nite) – Friday (Pizza and Steak ‘ Fries Nite) – Saturday (Steak, etc.)

BONUS question: WHO will be the one to “turn the page” [?]

PRIZE [?] Reservations for two in the Penthouse Suite for any weekend night of your choice!

RULES: No ties gentlemen. The FIRST one who Posts a guess that hits the mark, wins! It’s that simple.

Participants . . . . . . Date chosen . . . . . . . . (Bonus) Who will put us over the top [?]

pwolfe Pete . . . . . . . Dec 20th . . . . . . . . . . . . . .siberianmo Tom
trolleyboy Rob . . . . . Dec 18th (12:05 PM) . . . . . siberianmo Tom


(2) MARK YOUR CALENDAR!

Monday, December 12th represents the 8th Month Anniversary of ”Our” Place! An appropriate way to celebrate our “founding day” is to Post information relating to travel by rail during the Christmas holiday season!

With ample time to prepare, I would expect we will all find something suitable for this event. An advertisement, an article, a personal account – anything at all that will bring to light a trip or two by rail during the Christmas season.

That’s it! Nothing more to do. No “party” per se – it’s not a birthday celebration – just an opportunity for us all to recognize this achievement we’ve all contributed to. [tup]


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 08:04:36 (181) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 08:08:46 (181) ENCORE! Fallen Flag MoPAC

(3) passengerfan Al Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 09:05:43 (181) Streamliner #21 – 20th Century Limited

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 14:00:21 (181) ENCORE! Fallen Flag MKT

(5) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 18:54:25 (181) ENCORE! Classic Juice #4 B&H

(6) wanswheel Mike Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 20:08:38 (181) Inclusive Post, etc.

(7) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 20:14:47 (181) Nitecap

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 03 Dec 2005, 22:20:57 (182) Acknowledgments, etc.

=======================================
That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

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Posted by red p on Sunday, December 4, 2005 8:28 AM
Nick - I dont have a regular run. Regular runs are locals and rostabouts.
Im a road engineer and we work in pool rotation. If my spot is 10 times out, then I will get the 10th. train to be called. And it doesnt matter what time of day it is. It could be during the day or the middle of the night.
P

I also want to submit my contribution for sunday picture day.


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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 4, 2005 9:45 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! As previously advertised, we are acceping Fallen Flags and NOSTALGIA submissions along with pix.

Here are some RR heralds, many gone from the scene, as the Passenger RR's folded the tent. These are just some that I find interest ng and in no way should this list be viewed as all-inclusive.

Which two still operate regularly scheduled passenger trains [?] [swg]




Later (maybe)!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]



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Posted by red p on Sunday, December 4, 2005 9:52 AM
Tom- You forgot the PC logo
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 4, 2005 11:18 AM
P Nope! As I indicated somewhere earlier and on the lead in to the Post - just RR's I'm interested in! [swg] You're doing a good enough job of making sure we all see it, though! [;)]

Thanx for ONE of the two pix you Posted! <grin>

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by red p on Sunday, December 4, 2005 12:05 PM
I did that just for you tom [:)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, December 4, 2005 12:49 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! As advertised, we are accepting Fallen Flags and NOSTALGIA pieces as well as pix!

Here are 4 pix from Nick for this fine day:

click to enlarge

#1


#2


#3


#4


Great pix, Nick! You’ll have to fill us in regarding what, when and where.

Go to http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Nicks%20pix/ to see the rest of Nick’s Pix!

Enjoy. See y’all in the ‘morrow.!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, December 4, 2005 4:39 PM
Great photos Nick, of convincing facsimiles of Great Britain from your ranch in Argentina. ("Follow the beef," said Deep Throttle, who keeps a watchful eye on you guys in the Culinary Intelligence Agency.)

I'm glad you liked the audio clip, Tom, which I was inspired to put there after unsuccessfully search for a clip of Johnny Cash version of "The Rock Island Line." I did find Ledbelly, who wrote that song, and Lonnie Donnegan's follow-up to "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor On The Bedpost Overnight."

Re: My edited previous post and deleted ref: I've just looked in the mirror and decided no-one has grounds to be jealous of my good looks!

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