Woo-hoo! One o' them big, gutsy Erie Pacifics! The Erie never bought any Hudsons or Northerns, they didn't think they needed them and for the most part, they were right. They didn't save any of them, woe worth the day!
"If you're going through hell, keep going!" Good old Winston!
And I wish I knew who came up with this one:
"Before you can see the light at the end of the tunnel, you have to walk through the darkness."
I liked the pic and it was a follow up to the GN Z class. All articulated locos are Yuge. Maybe we should save Yuge exclusively for the Y class.
The TE-1 is not a slacker in the Yuge dept. Suppose in coal turbines it was TErrific and No. 1 . Better if they ordered the 40 or 50 as was recommended.
The basic idea of this thread is just to maybe have a discussion if what's shown is deemed of interest. Then we can get into all the technical details with peoples in the know.
Maybe it's a lame-o concept. If so just consider it an expanded picture of the day and hope it's an image you like or haven't seen previously.
Aside---Distance on line learning off to a rocky start.., the product is good, the students are missing!! New phenomenon called 'No Surrender Bender" going on.
As Winston Churchill stated " If you're going thru hell, keep going"
Miningman6) N&W Jawn Henry .. nice pic! It's Yuge too
I cannot beLIEVE you missed it! It's the simple-expansion 2-8-8-2 that was Yuge. The turbine, on the other hand, was TE-rrific and Number One!
Well they sure tried with Aquarama. A very sad loss.
Some more goodies:
1) July 13, 1955. No.1 The Super Continental at Armstrong, Ontario. Diesel A&B broke down and 6259 was hurried into service. Shop workers all over it! To the rescue! Can't hold up No. 1.
2) An odd doubleheader. NYC FM 4517 and a Hudson haul at passenger consist. No date given but the location is Jackson, Michigan.
3) In busier and more prosperous days, here is The Ambassador for Montreal headed by 4-8-2 4117 nicknamed 'Hercules'. Long train!
Boston North Station, Aug. 1947
4) A Penny/Flintlock Special. The Erie in Cleveland in 1948. Big power, lots of bridges.
5) Great Northern Z Class. Yuge!
6) N&W Jawn Henry .. nice pic! It's Yuge too!
Somewhere around here I have a brochure from the Aquarama which plied the waves from the late '50s until September, 1962. I recall seeing it docked at the E. 9th St. Pier in Cleveland, when I was aged five or six.
Until I find it this YouTube video will have to do —
(You may want to turn the "soundtrack" down a bit. I did.)
Also —
https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/766
Follow the Flickr link here and see the brochure that this contributor has in an album:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/34370769@N07/albums/72157623040787976
Aquarama postcard by John Rochon, on Flickr
Cheers, Ed
Cleveland Ferries also called on Port Dover and the Bessemer & Lake Erie ran coal hoppers across Erie to Port Dover CNR and of course my all time favourite the Ferry between Ashtabula and Port Burwell.
There is still some kind of summer service to Port Stanley. Heck of a summer spot!
A six hour car ride vs. a 40 minute to hour and half by boat across the mysterious Lake Erie. None of it should have disappeared but much is lost.
MidlandMike Were those boats coming from Sandusky, or were they coming from places like Cleveland, or maybe other places?
Were those boats coming from Sandusky, or were they coming from places like Cleveland, or maybe other places?
Cleveland to Cedar Point was a very popular run for the lake steamers.
Of course Detroit, Toledo, Buffalo and other points sent a lot of tourist traffic to Cedar Point by lake steamer.
I couldn't find a good pic of a steamer docked at the Euclid Beach Park pier, this is in fact the ONLY one I found:
So here's Glenn Curtiss flying over it.
And 2 Humphreys in a row boat.
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
Well this led to something I never saw before! Check this out:
The photo description reads:
The pier was also served by Lake Shore Electric! The spur ended just short of the pier. Interline service from Mansfield was offered from 1909-1912, and through trains from Cleveland and Detroit brought passengers as well, with summer excursion trains common until the 1930s.
Recall taking a ferry from a slip West of downtown Sandusky to Put-in-Bay on a vacation in 1972.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
You can still go from Sandusky to Point Pelee, Ontario.
http://www.ontarioferries.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Complete-2018-Pelee-Island-Sailing-Schedule.pdf
That's the spirit Penny! Can't beat Lake Erie on both sides! I can smell the fries and malt vinegar right through the computer...... And all the glorious places to dine in splendour. CASO on the other side and a host of Electric Lines. A very rich fulfilling life.
Was worried I wasn't going to get a single comment so thanks for that too Penny. Lordy I miss Lake Erie in the summer, actually any time.
Celery bread here I come!
Oh wow, steam trains, steam ships, what a fun way to get around!
The sun, the sky, and a whiff of coal smoke to round it all off.
Miningman5) Those were the days. Sandusky passengers could transfer to steamers on Lake Erie. Something Overmod has lamented is gone now.
A closer look.
Looking the other way:
This was the pier at the park:
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Non postcard version:
I like this one:
This one's great too:
The pier was destroyed when on June 28, 1924 a massive tornado tore through Sandusky.
This is the "new pier" built after.
Some of the regular steamers. The A Wherle Jr:
The Arrow:
The Goodtime:
And the Eastland:
1) Last train on Division St. in Evansville, Indiana. July 31, 1973.
Four car L&N consist , aboard the Mayor and other city officials. Street running replaced by a new by pass.
2) Union Pacific M-10000 .. in Buffalo of all places. Sure got around!
3) Now where oh where is my engine? Very busy! A scene we are lucky to have captured on film as we will never see the sights of this again.
4) South Goa, India. Train crosses over incredible waterfall.
5) Those were the days. Sandusky passengers could transfer to steamers on Lake Erie. Something Overmod has lamented is gone now.
6) St. Petersburg Florida 1954. Passenger trains ran through the streets of St. Petersburg causing massive traffic jams! I don't even see any gates!
7) Juniata Scale - Weigh Instruments
Amazing what is to be found out there.
Erik_Mag and all-- Another pic of Fifth St. Layfayette, Indiana but this time back in the day with steam. That must have been quite the sight.
Crew has the smoke under control.
M636CWhat on earth is the locomotive?
If I'm not mistaken, we had a fairly recent thread involving either this locomotive or one very like it -- now painted white, and in some danger of being scrapped. Perhaps this jogs someone's better memory.
M636C---, This is what I could find.
It served in Port Ivory, Staten Island, until 1991.
It was called The Mutt. Had no number.
It had an Alco frame with Blunt trucks, from a S1 or S3.
It was built by Chattahoochie Locomotives in Conyers, Georgia
Flintlock-- Yes! ...the photo caption called the train 'The Dundee' I didn't include it in the description.
Midland Mike-- Not sure where, no help from the photo, just a date 1948. Someone here will know.
M636-- No help from the photo. Still searching
Erik_Mag-- Always cool when you know the exact location and you've been there recognized from a photo years later!
Miningman 3) Fifth St. Layfayette, Indiana. The Monon is the Big Man on Campus!
3) Fifth St. Layfayette, Indiana. The Monon is the Big Man on Campus!
My son, the Purdue freshman, thinks he knows where that picture was taken. I crossed Fifth street several times last October when my wife and were visiting him. FWIW, Purdue is across the river in West Lafayette.
Ah yes, the old Erie mainline through Passaic NJ. It lasted up to around 1960 or so, then instead of a convenience for train riders it became a royal PITA, so it was re-routed outside of the downtown area.
But at the time it sure was dramatic, wasn't it?
Monroe Street in Passaic? That's the Erie's old Dundee (industrial) Spur, abandoned for good in 2019 after the last customer left.
Under whose cat wire is the Chessie turbine running? PRR near Washington?
rcdrye-- Ok thanks! Sure had me fooled. An FP4A it is! Went too fast and didn't look at the trucks..again! Clearly B-B.
M636c-- research time!! See what I can dig up !
Who cares about the bell?
What on earth is the locomotive?
It appears to have Blunt trucks suggesting it started life as an Alco S1 or S3. It has an EMD hood, so it must have been re-engined with an EMD at some time. It has a non standard low clearance cab. But look at that exhaust stack just near the radiator grille. This unit must have been re-engined a second time with a small Caterpillar or Cummins engine.
Peter
Miningman6) Almost the Missouri Pacific, sort of. National Railways of Mexico PA with the Aztec Eagle , Mexico City to Nuevo Laredo near the border with Laredo, Texas.
Almost the Continental... NdeM had FPA4s, just like CN. The PAs came a lot later.
Of Ferries and Barges, Street Running, more Missouri Pacific stuff, and things straight from Hades!
1) SS Ann Arbor #5 ... capacity 30 cars. Busy place.
2) Southern Pacific ferry barge the 'Mastodon' with passenger train crossing the Mississippi at New Orleans.
4) Monroe St. Passaic, New Jersey.
5) The Erie running downtown in Passaic, NJ. For our Erie and Jersey fans of which I know there are at least 2 here!
6) Almost the Missouri Pacific, sort of. National Railways of Mexico FP4A with the Aztec Eagle , Mexico City to Nuevo Laredo near the border with Laredo, Texas.
7) Missouri Pacific Baby Face Baldwin.
8) MoPacs passenger trains had a very pleasing colour scheme. Exquisite!
9) The Chessie Turbine looks like it just arrived from Hades! Or the Twilight Zone. In any case pretty dramatic photo. Also look at all the 'hats' hanging around. Methinks something went wrong .... as usual.
10) Is it just me or does that Proctor and Gamble locomotive have a really large bell. Plenty of room to swing it too!
MiningmanMaybe they had to play hardball, even dirty hardball, and not turn their back on what they were, recognize what they have, appreciate and draw strength from the roundhouse and their 100 years acquired expertise and stuck with what they do best and fight on.
On Wall Street, 100 years of success means nothing the minute you start loosing money.
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