Baltimore Streetcars

[BaltACD]

 Indiana Interurban Network - notated with the start and end date of the services

 

A picture taken at the 'wye' in the upper right corner - Garrett, IN - 2 Blocks North of this location was the Main Line of the B&O between Willard and Chicago 

[daveklepper]

Thanks.  It was raining (lightly), but the contrast got boosted in the posting.  The pavement was wet but not flooded,  Just occasional puddles.  See previous photos for an idea of the weather.

[Miningman]

Got this from David:

Finally figured out what happened.   A bmp editing frame somehow got
sent when I wished to send the jpg final version.  My mistake.  

[daveklepper]

Thanks for correcting my computer application error!

[Miningman]

Glad to be of assistance David. Stay cool over there!

[daveklepper]

The color picture of the Key Avenue shuttle was by Capitoi Transit operator Ed Miller. and was povided by Richard Allman

[seppburgh2]

Awasum! Thanks for sharing Dave and making my day with the 5583 in color.  

[daveklepper]

A terriffic collection of Ed Miller's color photos of Baltimore streetcars is at

 <https://collections.digitalmaryland.org/digital/collection/btpe/search>

from Richard Allman

[BaltACD]

daveklepper

A terriffic collection of Ed Miller's color photos of Baltimore streetcars is at

 <https://collections.digitalmaryland.org/digital/collection/btpe/search>

from Richard Allman

A very extensive collection from 1952 - remember some of the locations as a kid as we moved back to Baltimoe (Catonsville) in 1955.

Map of the routes in 1945

[daveklepper]

found and repaired (attempted to repair?) a scan of a side view of Semi 5622 pictured earlier.

I also see that two-mn semis had all four doors double doors, while the exit-only door on one-man semis was single.

 

 

 

[daveklepper]

Two views of PCC 7111 on Catonsville - Towson:

[BaltACD]

daveklepper

o views of PCC 7111 on Catonsville - Towson:

 

We lived in Catonsville.  One of my Aunt's lived in Towson, her daughter wanted to take me to a Orioles doubleheader against the Boston Red Sox.  Driving between Towson and Catonsville was a mounmental undertaking in the days before the Baltimore Beltway.  I boarded the #8 trolley at Ingleside Ave in 'downtown' Catonsville and proceeded to ride it to Overbrook Road a little South of 'downtown' Towson on a Sunday morning.  As I recall the trip consumed a little over two hours; had it been a work day the trip likely would have taken considerably more time account traffic in downtown Baltimore.

[Jones1945]

daveklepper

Two views of PCC 7111 on Catonsville - Towson:

Their cheery livery reminds me of buses in Macau 40 years ago:

[daveklepper]

Can someone provide the location?

[daveklepper]

Falls Road, with the front of a Mount Wshington Line Brill Peter Witt. looking dwn Union Avenue and the track of the Union Avenue shuttle, 1947, taken at age 15:

 

From Richard Allman:

The Woodberry Station on the Central Light Rail Line is at the foot of the hill on Union Avenue just across the creek.

Took these photos in April 2008 when Jack May, Bob Dietrich, Fred Sauerberger and I were out photographing the light rail-transit police hassled us for what they described as “illegal activity”. Later MTA (Maryland Transportation Administration) got nailed in a law suit for enforcement of this illegal policy (only forbidden photography is military installations, nuclear facilities and private businesses where trade secrets can might be disclosed without permission), none of which applies to publicly owned and supported transit facilities. MTA was also reprimanded from the bench by the judge because its security employees were so ill-informed. DSC-31-9 is looking south-I was standing on Union Avenue. DSC-34-9 shows the Union Avenue grade crossing in the foreground. Shot facing north.

 

[daveklepper]

Can anyone identify this exact location, near or in the Downtown area on the 25 Mt. Washington Line?

[daveklepper]

Also on the 25, Mt. Washington line, previous postings of bridge photos did not include this one:

[daveklepper]

26, Sparrows Point Line, ;Spring, 1947, outbound car photographed  from a front window of an inbound car:

[daveklepper]

At Sparrows Point:

[daveklepper]

Also at Sparrows Point:

At the end of the Rolling Rad line (PCC in background) ,wirh the shuttle to Elicott City:

 

 

Brill Peterr-Witt on the Mt. Washington Line, downtown:

 

 

 

[daveklepper]

Fort Howard Shuttle at Sparrows Point:

[daveklepper]

Mount Washington Line just above the junction with the Key Avenue Shuttle (see the Shuttle car  through the  trees on the right) and, below, the Shuttle's outer terminal,   And Happy 4th!:

[daveklepper]

photos of the Baltimore Brill Peter-Witts.  Anyone wish to supply

ljocations?

 

 

 

The last is just outside the B&O Camden Station

 

[NKP guy]

Maybe it's the dreary day and the b/w photography, maybe it's what one is used to, but in my opinion Baltimore's Brill Peter Witts are some of the most unattractive streetcars I've ever seen, despite my late friend Kenneth Morse's introducing them to me (via his photos) in 1964.

[daveklepper]

And I disagree,  To me, they are the best looking non-PCC Peter Witts except for the double-end Third Avenue  Broadway-42nd Street "Huffliners" (which were built in 1938 after PCC's were introduced in 1935-36).    The Baltimore Peter-Wiits had  automatic acceleration, like the most modern rapid-transit MUs of the period.  I'd be happy to read others' opinions, one way or the other.

 

[daveklepper]

A Jack May photo at the Baltimore Trolley Museum:

[NKP guy]

daveklepper

A Jack May photo at the Baltimore Trolley Museum:

 

 

I rest my case.          (wink!)

[daveklepper]

And I rest mine.

Which non-PCC Peter Witt do you think looks better?  Even name several?

And here are  two more Baltimore PCC photos:

[NKP guy]

 

Well, my favorite Peter Witt comes from his hometown, Cleveland, which had several types of these cars. Shown below is one taken in front of the Windermere car barns on Euclid Avenue in East Cleveland. As a boy, I enjoyed sitting on the stoop of the Windermere Hardware store (shown in photo) and looking for minutes on end at the fascinating scene unfolding just across the street from me. Also, note the Raymond Lowey design for the cars' paint scheme. 

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgoTBH3C5NyWjwBoKyX5M2WZEVGvSCRfBGlX-u6tMvrL63j7ZSVmuP8iPr89yu5i0B65jFs7FGNuDU95Xpi7U67K11BHWjLbpXUbgy0GuJYPbP6xt-lKx0k84IrLQcuoj9QeVgoyDi3VrM/s1600/Cleveland+Ohio+streetcar+1950ish.jpg

I also think Toronto had some good-looking examples of this design type of streetcar.

ttc peter witt - side view.jpg

 

Mr. Witt:

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/195067565232

[BaltACD]

daveklepper

And I rest mine.

Which non-PCC Peter Witt do you think looks better?  Even name several?

And here are  two more Baltimore PCC photos:

Never saw the Baltimore PCC cars in that livery.  The livery when I viewed them at the intersection of Frederick Road and Ingleside Avenue as I was walking to and from Catonsville Elementary School - the livery I witnessed was a bright yellow below the window line and a white/cream above the window line.