Straight-side convertible 78 had both poles and a conduit plow carrier. Herv is is westbound on West 145th Sreet, conduit west of Lenox, marked "Special," bwcause instead proceeding to the 149th Crosstown western terminal at 145th and Broadway, it will turn right on Amsterdam Avenue and followcthe "K" to Kimnsbridge Car Hous House. 1947 photo.
Highschool buddy, later Dr. Mark Steele, physician and surgion in Pittsburgh, at Gardner Avenue Yayd in 1947
Just the truck itself, or the overall betwee outer wheel centers of both trucks?
I'll tyy to get the answer to both, but Googling "Brill sytrteetcar trucks" and finding data on "Maximum-Traction Truck" might get you the answer sooner.
Great pictures in this thread! Would anyone know the truck wheelbase on car 270?
Thanks,
Jeff C
Spring 1947 photos, with convertables, before ex-Manhattan former conduit cars replaced them, fvior the remaining year oif streetcar ioperation:
207th & Broadway, 207-Fordham "X"
Boston Road north of the crossing of Southern Blvd, near West Farms Carhouse.
Previous posting corrected. Smokestacks across the East River are also in my L. I. City photos in the Peter Witt thread.
At Greenpoint, across the bridge to Brooklyn from Long Island City, probably March, definitely 1947. on Brooklyn's Crosstown Line.
Rare, usally 6000 single-end Peter Witts were used. But like them, the 4100s were single-end, converted from double-end cars. Like the 6000s, they had a turnstyle in the aisle juyst after vthe entrance door.
85, in Winter configuration, is running south on the "K" linr, light, somewhere on Broadway between 181st and 200th Srtreet, coming from the Kingsbridge Carhouse, to go into service on West 145th Street, wherr it will turn from Amsterdam Avenue to run east on 145 to the plow-pit east of Lenox Avenue, where the conduit plough will be dropped and the pole raised. It will then cross the bridge to 149th Street in The Bronx, and to the eastern terminal at Southern Boulevard.
Back to Brooklyn, the 4100s were originally gate-door 2-man-operated double-end convertables, like 4573 at Branford (Shore Line Trolley) and its sister at Seashore, but were converted into air-operasted-door, single-end. one-man convertables with a nickle turnstyle at the front, like the single-end Peter-Witt 6000s and some 8500s. This view is at Coney Island yard, probably after removal from service and ready for scrapping.
149th Street Crosstown car at the Hub, 3rd Avenue, Webster Avenue, Willis Avernue and Westchester Avenue. Third Avenue Elevated and its 149th Street, two-island-platrform express station overhead. In the backgrond, the "Bergen Cutoff." allowing elevated Freeman Street Expresses to bypass congestion at the 149th Street Elevatred Station. And, underground, is the 2-track subway still used by the "2" and "5."
81 will continue west, change to conduit operation just beyond the Harlem River Bridge, then use West 145th Street to Broadway,
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Three levels of transit! I guess those were the days.
TATS-TARS had two Bronx "V" lines, one being Sond View Avent - Clason Point, and the second one shown here. Convertable 1134 in winter, configuration, is at the northern terminal at Gun Hill Road and White Plains Avenue, about to return, via the east of Bronx Park, to West Farms Square
The "W" Webster Avene line entered from the left and contined north on White Plains Avenue, and overhead the 3rd Avenue Elevated trains did the same The IRT subway trains, on the top level, still come north on the east of Bronx Park.
A March 1947 photo of 270 at the other end of the 207th Street - Fordham Road Crosstown "X" Line, with an ex-"B" Broadway-42nd Street Huffliner running on the "K" on conduit on Broadway:
The Broadway 145th Street Line used one car and provided service every 45 minutes, with the "K" giving regulasr service between 145th and Amsterdam Avenue and 181st Street where the B-145 reversed. Similarly. the 149th St. "X" Crosstown between Amsterdam and Lenox Avenues on 145th Street. Here, it is trning from Amsterdam Avenue to 145th Street, where it will se conduuit to the plow-pit west of Lenox Avenue, switch to wire to cross the Avenue, reverse through a spring-switch trailing crossover, and then switch back to cobduit for its return to 181st Street and Broadway. 149th Street Crosstown "X" cars are in the background, one in each direction.:
And a 1939 photo, unknown source, 272 at approximately the same location, same line, but summer configuration:
Third Avenue convertable 271 is on the Fordham Road - 207th Street Crosstown running north From West Farms Square at 177th Street on Bronx Park West to Fordham Road:
A visit of (now) Shore-Line Trolley's 4573 to the Canarsie Shore:
One of the Birneys of the type brought to the final ceremony as the closest thing to the cartoon's single-trucker immediately available. 3rd Av. leased these cars to Steinway.
Herewith:
Tell us the story behind Fontaine Fox and the Westchester trolley line
At the same location, the Harlerm River Shuttle car that ran ever the 3rd Avenue Bridge to the wired loop under the Elevated structure across Third Avernue from the East 129th Street Carhouse. The line was closed in 1940. when the 3rd Avenue Bridge was made one-way sourhbound, with the 1st Avernue bridge, that had been used by the Willis Avenue streetcars, made one-way northbound. The Willis Avenur bus replaced both dtreetcar lines.
The tracks over the 3rd Avenue Bridge were retained until sometime in July 1947 for middte-of-the-night non-revenue car transfer moves.
From Jack May, unkown original source, 138th Street and Third Avenue, south end of the Boston Road line, with the entrance to the 138th Street IRT subway station in the background.
Back to Pelham Bay Pasrk and the north end of the "A" Westchester Avenue Line, with my High-School classmate Mark Steele at the trolley-pole retriever rope. Perhaps some Pittsburgh-area resder will remember Doctor Mark Steele as a very successful physician.
Another straight-side convertable at the same spot:
When I took the above photo, I did not know the car had a previous spot as a news item:
On West 145th Street in Manhattan, straight-side convertable 79 with trolley poles for use on 149th Street in The Bronx uses conduit current collection. The 149th Street crosstown was the last Third Avenue Transit line to use conduit, going bus in the late summer of 1847. It was also the loast Third Avenue line to use conveertables, wit enough sec ond hand and home-buiolt steel cars to handle the remaining routes
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Edited the photos in the previous posting:
Third Avenue Convertable, summer configuration, on the "C" line approaches West 262 St., Yonkers City Line, coming from West Farms Square, and after reversed, heads south on Broadway, followed by Yonkers "1" line home-built lightweight 343 from Waburton Avenue and the Hastings town line. 343 will go only as far as W. 242 St., northern terminal of the IRT Broadway subway line.
At left is Van Cortland Park.
West 181st Street & Broadway was the terminal for four Bronx lines, O - Ogden Avenue, with 301-series lightweights, U University, with 1201-series second-hand steel cars, X 167th - 148th Crosstown, anf Z 180th Street crosstown, both with convertables. 889 iis an older curveside, and 35 a newer straightside. Richard Akknab inporoved my restoration work on this photo, partiuclarly brining out grill detail on the auto on the left.
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