PA restoration

[West Coast S]

Egmurphy... Are there any FT's still in Mexico?? I know a group that is seeking one to be restored as a WP unit.

Dave

[West Coast S]

None of the above.. Alco demo colors or the 1947 AFT scheme, one in SP bloody nose would not be too shaby, we have a perserved Daylight E unit, but the bloody nose seems to have been forgotten.

Dave

[egmurphy]

Short article (2/3 page) on the progress of the restoration of Doyle's PA in the April issue of Trains Magazine, on page 24.

Regards

Ed

[David_Telesha]

*COUGH*

You're missing a road...

When the New Haven's PA's were scrapped the trucks were recovered and supposedly put on the units in Mexico...

I vote for reworking the body, removing the DB's, and painting it New Haven Green and Gold or Hunter Green/Warm Orange!!!

No McGinnis please.

[Anonymous]

It should be the original road, even though SF colors are much better.

[Anonymous]

well, doyles NKP bluebird PA will be a runner, he repowered it with a 251 from a retired Alco diesel he had. The Smithsonian's unit will be mounted and stuffed, either paint scheme would be nice, there are already a couple of units in warbonnet colors so a steamliner in D&H colors which the styling is based off of the warbonnet in styling. Atleast the other two are restored and running and in a musuem rather than scraped. Cheers Mike

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cnw4001

Where would these units be displayed?

In my back yard!

[cnw4001]

Where would these units be displayed?

[Anonymous]

I say Santa Fe, for all of the reasons mentioned. However, my personal preference would be to have both PA's restored into the same paint scheme and be preserved as an A-A set.

[tmcc man]

I said D&H, because I think it is a better looking scheme than the Warbonnet.

[cnw4001]

It should be repainted in the roadname of the original owner.

[TrainFreak409]

I'd like to see it in D & H.[:D] I like their scheme better on the PA than I do Santa Fe's.

[Anonymous]

I vote D&H even though i live in BNSF country

[egmurphy]

QUOTE: And hasn't one of the ones in Mexico been painted in SP Daylight?

Yup, number 17. See the photo in one of my posts above. Suposedly the two of them there at the National Railway Museum are both in running condition. I do know that they fire up the engines every two weeks, although they don't move the locomotives.

(Note: I edited my post above to show the photos of the two. I had reorganized my railimages album which changed the photo addresses.)


Regards

Ed

[PBenham]

The Smithsonian was rumored to be selling their PA hulk at the most recent update I have seen. So, let's wait and see.

[Texas Zepher]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CP5415
Doyle McCormack has them in Portland Oregon & is currently restoring one to NKP livery.

The one painted for NKP is out of the paint shop. There are pictures of it in one of this month's train magazines. And hasn't one of the ones in Mexico been painted in SP Daylight?

From a museum and restoration perspective, since it isn't for a D&H museum, then it should be painted Santa Fe with its original number. I voted AT&SF.

[Anonymous]

I think they should be painted D&H. There are many preserved locomotives painted Santa Fe across the country but few,if any painted D&H.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the folks that propose one of each. It is a very difficult question even for a hard core D&H fan like myself as the Sante Fe Warbonnet is so awesome. However, If I must choose one it would be D&H.

[Anonymous]

I gotta go with Paul and Jonathon. One of each would be ideal, but if we only get one, it has to be Santa Fe Warbonnet. (The opinion of another SP fan! You're not alone, agentatascadero.)

--JD

[Anonymous]

I agree with Paul. One D&H, one ATSF.

[IRONROOSTER]

While D&H would be nice, if we can only have one the Santa Fe warbonnet is the one.
Enjoy
Paul

[agentatascadero]

It's hard for an SP fan to say this, But the Warbonnet is the best, most popular, and certainly the most recognizable diesel paint scheme ever.

[egmurphy]

QUOTE: Alco GE:
Has anyone attempted to get the other 2 PAs out of Mexico?

Don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. They're both restored and sitting in the National Railway Museum in Puebla, about a 2-3 hour drive east of Mexico City.






(edited to update the new addresses of the photos)


Regards

Ed

[Anonymous]

I would prefer to see the ATSF warbonnet but the PA must be saved.

Tom

[ValorStorm]

The fact that it's the Smithsonian should make the choice an obvious one: preserve the original nature of the item, because that's what museums do. Plus, I saw a possum once...

[egmurphy]

QUOTE: Only because they've been in D&H livery for almost 40 years.

Even though they spent half of that time working south of the border?

Regards

Ed

[CP5415]

D&H here.

Only because they've been in D&H livery for almost 40 years.
Doyle McCormack has them in Portland Oregon & is currently restoring one to NKP livery.

Gordon

[railman]

Not a HUGE Santa Fe fan, but seeing such a nice engine in Santa Fe paint could inspire some railfans down the road, as Santa Fe is usually what's in the train set. Not much, but maybe a start.

[wa1lbk]

My vote is for Santa Fe; the classic warbonnet scheme is instantly recognizable to the general public. I'm glad to hear that the PA's have been recovered; (I thought they had been scrapped! [V] ). When did the Smithsonian acquire them, from whom (last I heard they had gone to Mexico), & where are they currently [?] Am I correct in assuming that the Smithsonian will be doing the restoration itself ? Finally, anyone have any pictures of their current condition? Tom