Yes, mile zero for the western end was in Columbus. Where was mile zero for the eastern end after the Columbus-Greenville section was separated from the Southern System?
Johnny
I would guess Birmingham, start of the western section, though it could have been as far east as Austell or Atlanta, since the line originated there. If the line to Columbus was treated as a branch, Parrish Ala., where the line connecting to Memphis took off to the north would be the easternmost point.
rcdrye I would guess Birmingham, start of the western section, though it could have been as far east as Austell or Atlanta, since the line originated there. If the line to Columbus was treated as a branch, Parrish Ala., where the line connecting to Memphis took off to the north would be the easternmost point.
As to the junction at Parrish, that is the junction with the Northern Alabama, which has its own mileposts.
Richmond?
Not Richmond, though (I believe that) Richmond did have the zero m.p. for the Richmond Division, which ran to a point just above Danville.
How about Georgia Milepost 0 on the W&A in Atlanta?
No, it is not in Georgia. Do you have any Southern passenger timetables? If so, you should be able to determine where the zero milepost is.
Southern passenger trains leaving this zero milepost ran over two foreign roads and made a station stop before reaching Southern rails.
Deggesty Southern passenger trains leaving this zero milepost ran over two foreign roads and made a station stop before reaching Southern rails.
Washington DC Union Station. WTCo/PRR, RF&P then SR. Station stop at Alexandria on the RF&P.
Aha! You found the zero milepost! I do not know when the change was made, but the unlettered Southern miles went all the way from Washington, D.C., to Columbus, Miss. They did not go through the Atlanta Terminal Station, though. As I recall, the SoRY's passeger TT showed the distance from Washington to Birmingham to be 805.1--and the mp just west of the station in Birmingham was 798 (it is more than forty years since I saw the mp).
For a period around 1950, two different Pullman lines were available between Chicago and Mobile Alabama. Name the railroads and trains involved.
I would say that one route was on GM&O, part of which was the "Gulf Coast Rebel" south of St. Louis, not sure of the Chicago-St. Louis portion. The other route was the "Georgian-Humming Bird", Chicago-C&EI-Evansville-L&N-Mobile.
Good enough. The Abraham Lincoln carried the cars (by description the rebuilt heavyweight 8-3-1 cars "Show Me" and "Deep South", since roomettes weren't listed). Through operation doesn't seem to have lasted very long.
The Georgian/Humming Bird carried a Chicago-Mobile 8-5, replaced by a 6-6-4 when the 1953 order came. The sleepers to New Orleans came from Cincinnati.
The two trains also competed for St Louis-Montgomery business, with GM&O providing a 12-1 and L&N using an 8-5 (later 6-6-4).
If the Abraham Lincoln carried the southbound car to St. Louis, there was quite a layover--from about ten one evening to about six the next afternnon. It was the Limited (was it still the Alton Limited after the GM&O absorbed the C&A?) that carried the southbound car.
And, it took three cars for each line--for the GM&O, leave St. Chicago in the morning and return in the afternoon (or, a Chicago-St. Louis car could be worked in so that only two more cars were needed for the run); for the C&EI-L&N, arrive in Mobile in the afternoon and leave the next morning.
DeggestyIf the Abraham Lincoln carried the southbound car to St. Louis, there was quite a layover--from about ten one evening to about six the next afternnon. It was the Limited (was it still the Alton Limited after the GM&O absorbed the C&A?) that carried the southbound car.
Southbound on train 1 (The Limited), Northbound on the Abraham Lincoln. Layover in St. Louis was around an hour in each direction.
The car list shows sections, drawing rooms and bedrooms which match the rebuilt heavyweights (plan 4090b) done in 1940. Pullman had more of them in the "Tower" series. The St. Louis-Montgomery car could be any plan 2410 or 3410 car. GM&O's four ACF lightweights were assigned to the Midnight Special (7 and 8). I'll try to dig up a list of GM&O-owned Pullmans.
The Humming Bird/Georgian combo was part of a large system of Pullman lines, so it's possible that some cars had rotations on other trains as part of their assignment.
GM&O must have borrowed a third car for the Chicago rotation. Their own Pullmans in 1950 included the following:
The two plan 4090b 8 sec 3 dbr 1 DR cars "Show Me" and "Deep South"
four plan 3410 or 3410A 12 sec 1 DR cars (St. L- Montgomery)
two 10 sec 2 Cpt 1 DR cars (assigned Chicago-Springfield on the "Midnight Special")
two 13 DBR heavyweight rebuilds (ex-B&O? York A/C)
two 14 Sec. heavyweights
four plan 9012 8 sec, 4 Rmt, 3 DBR 1 Cpt ACF lightweights (Midnight Special). These cars were delivered in July of 1950.
The cars dating from the Alton/B&O era have B&O-style York A/C, the original GM&O (inc. lightweights) have Waukesha A/C and the two 14-secs have Mechanical/Brine.
CSSHegewisch is up since he got the trains right.
I'll stick with my hometown. Who was the last rail operator (steam road, interurban or transit) to operate wood-bodied cars in passenger service in the Chicago metro area? Also provide particulars of the operation if you know.
I'm going to take a stab at two in 1957. The Chicago, Aurora & Elgin discontined use of wood cars that year and the Chicago Transit used wood-bodied cars on a shuttle service to Kenwood (?) that were discontined a few month's after the CA&E. Not sure if shuttle service meets your questions criteria.
We have a winner. CTA last ran wood cars on a shuttle on the Kenwood Branch up to the route's abandonment in 1957.
K4sPRR, it's your question.
Thanks Csshegewisch, here goes.
The postwar years seen innovations in technology influencing many aspects of our lives, railroads not excluded with experimental passenger trains and modernizations in freight transportation. Special exhibition trains toured the country showcasing new technology of all types. One such train was very unique in the fact the general public was not invited to view the displays found in its ten Pullman built railcars as it toured over 28,000 miles across America.
What was this train, its name, the primary sponsor, the power used to pull it and the nickname applied to those locomotives?
How about a presentation?
Nice video, thanks for posting. It answers three parts of the five part question. Still need the other two answers. Good luck.
The power was Alco-GE PA-1 and a PB...nicknamed Big Red.
There was one exception regarding public viewing...that was in Schenectady where the employees of the plant and the public could view it at Edison Park.
Miningman The power was Alco-GE PA-1 and a PB...nicknamed Big Red. There was one exception regarding public viewing...that was in Schenectady where the employees of the plant and the public could view it at Edison Park.
Big Red was a big part of the question, congratulations. Miningman I pass the baton to you for the next question.
OK..easy peasy question....Of all the Transcons built this was the only one successfully built with all private money only and no government land grants....actually if you think about that it's quite a feat.
The Empire Builder built his road without asking for land grants, and so the Great Northern came into existence.
He did do a hurry-up job (three switchbacks on the east slope and five on the west slope) to cross the Cascades, and it took two revisions to correct that.
Miningman:
Are you thinking of the Great Northern?
Ed Burns
Happily retired NP-BN-BNSF from Northtown.
Very good gentlemen ...you are both time stamped at 6:46, however, Deggesty was first in the line. Also expanded on the answer nicely and didn'r answer the question with a question!...so it's all yours Deggesty.
The history of James J. Hill and the Great Northern is truly remarkable.
Off-hand, I know of four railroads that had one zero milepost each for the majority of its lines (the majority of the lines on each road had a common zero mp). Name four, with the location of the zero mp--and name the two roads of the four that had negative mileposts for their connections with another road (name it), and the locations of the junctions.
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