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Posted by pwolfe on Thursday, April 10, 2008 5:19 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please, I see it isCaptain [4:-)]TOM behind the bar.Thumbs Up [tup]. I wonder why when RUTH is given the afternoon off she heads straight for the Penthouse SuiteSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg], perhaps Eric will knowWhistling [:-^] 

TOM Many thanks for the California Zephyr and the Vista DomesThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. The photo of the Zephyrs passing with that great Alco diesel and the wonderful scenery is a classicApprove [^]. It is good that very similar cars can still be enjoyed today on VIA Rail.Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes lets hope for a good day SaturdayYeah!! [yeah]. I have noticed something lately on the index page of the forum, it shows a latest post, which is about two posts behind the actual post at the barConfused [%-)], as you say the refresh feature, is needed.Yeah!! [yeah]

I don't think I had better enroll in another of Molly Throttlebottom's classesSigh [sigh] I hear she is already taking two holiday cruises a year from the fees from my typing classes.Shock [:O]Big Smile [:D]

I have only done a little steering of a narrow boat it was not too bad, the worst is the old bridges as they are narrow and going into locks. Most of the boaters seem very well behaved, keeping to 4MPH and being courteous to other canal users.Approve [^]

Glad you enjoyed the photos and good words for Allan.Thumbs Up [tup]

 Many thanks for the Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 on the Canadian Pacific Hotels and LodgesApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup], I have, mainly through Our Place, have found out that the CP, at one time, did much more than run a railway.Thumbs Up [tup] There was a Southern Railway (UK) Merchant Navy class 4-6-2 locomotive, now happily preservedApprove [^], named Canadian Pacific.

Great set of posters in the Six Pack SpecialThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup], really good artwork on them allBow [bow]. I think the fireman on the German Nach train is taking a breather. The Milwaukee Road is a great one but I have to say The Chief Way is my favorite still for that wonderful paintingWow!! [wow]Approve [^].

E-Mail receivedThumbs Up [tup]   

NICK Glad you enjoyed the canal photosThumbs Up [tup]. Yes I was lucky to live where I did. On a spring and summer evening it was a great walk along the towpath of the ‘cut' to a footpath that led past my works and over the railway on a footbridge and into town for a few beersApprove [^]. I did have the sense not to take that route home thoughSmile [:)]. The scenery near you house is very scenic tooYeah!! [yeah] and with some industrial heritage on the River CleddauApprove [^].

Many thanks for the photos of the R/E 3/6 and freight and passenger cars on your layoutApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. That Swiss Self-Service Restaurant Car looks interestingYeah!! [yeah]and the GP9 looks ready to start the evenings switching Approve [^]

ROB Glad you enjoyed the canal picsThumbs Up [tup].

 Many thanks for the photos.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] I have yet to see a slug unit yetSad [:(]. Do you know if they still build them nowadays.Question [?] I have seen a photo of one at Kansas City; I guess they do not travel very far the yards. Good to see a caboose in use.Approve [^]

ALLAN Many thanks for the kind words on the photos.Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes they have laid a small portion of narrow gauge track on the Lynton & Barnstable formation around Woody BayApprove [^]. I believe that there are two replicas of L&B locomotives being built at the moment. There is a story that one of the L&B original locos found it's way to South America and may exist but I would have though that someone would know for sure by now.

Enjoyed the TUI calendarThumbs Up [tup].

ERIC I hope you get a nice clear day when you return for a trip up to Pike's PeakYeah!! [yeah]. I have some more photos from the Colorado area I shall hopefully put some up Saturday.Thumbs Up [tup]

I suppose the cars that were cut off your train would be attached to the next train heading in the same direction.

As I said to Nick it was good to live near the canal, it was a Sunday routine for me to walk along the canal and feed the ducks and moorhens. Just outside the village churchyard there is a portal of the original canal tunnel closed in the 1830s it is impossible to see where the other end was as houses have been built on the site. Coventry is about 12 miles from where I was.

Many thanks for the photo of the steam locomotive at Osmo.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 Enjoyed the jukebox selection.Approve [^]Big Smile [:D]

Glad you enjoyed the canal photos.Thumbs Up [tup] I guess it was very fortunate with some of the English canals that the increase of leisure travel on the canals came at the same time as the their run down with commercial traffic and some canals never went out of useThumbs Up [tup]. There is quite a big movement restoring some canals that did become derelictApprove [^]. It is good there is still traces of the Middlesex canal are still visible. It is still possible to see traces of the old canal formation near my old home; one is in the middle of a fairly large housing estate.

The train in todays photo has an American connection in it's nameThumbs Up [tup]

 

LMS 4-6-2 No 6233 'Duchess of Sutherland' has just taken water at Exeter and is ready to take the 'Mayflower' along the coast at Dawlish and over the Devon Banks to Plymouth.

Well Tom I hope the heavy rains we had here today(and it looks as though we are in for some more soonThumbs Down [tdn]) skirted around you again todayYeah!! [yeah].

A round please LEONThumbs Up [tup] and the Fish 'N' ChipDinner [dinner],H&H know where my secret supply of mushy peas areSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg].

Just seen your post ROBThumbs Up [tup] I will post this and have a readYeah!! [yeah]

Pete.  

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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, April 10, 2008 5:04 PM

Afternoon gents I see the fires have been banked down. Oh well everyday can't be a two page dayBig Smile [:D] Even wiht teh slowness I see that we are still sitting in the crowsnest of the forum. Mr Leon a splash of BK's best in the coffee if you don't mind.

Tom-Fine quality run of stuff from you today Thumbs Up [tup] Loved seeing the CPR hotels again and all the posters are top notch as always.

Sounds like a decent run on the straight aways for the PE,I haven't given Lionel or S a major thought as the costs are a bit much to swallow,there aren't that many shops around me that carry either as well.Nice to look at though Thumbs Up [tup]

I haven't had the chance to fire off that email yet,I am however over the touch of whatever it was ( might have just been something I ate ) No Boris none of it contained mushy peas.

CM3-Good to see that you made it in today,I'm knocking on wood as I haven't had too many gremlin attacks lately.I didn't peg you as an N scaler some how I figured that you would have dabbled in the larger scales. Mind you you have it right,you can fit more RR in less space your way Thumbs Up [tup]

Allan-I loved the couple smiles you sent my way. As Tom said he shared the TUI calender it was a keeper for sure .

Eric-Actuallyu my wife is really one of the guys when it comes to trains,in some ways she loves them more than I do.Thumbs Up [tup] I haven't been to Cass ever she did those shots with some of the guys from the museum a good ten years before I met her.

If you think that caboose looked bad when I took that shot,you should see it now all the doors and windows are welded shut and boarded over,and it has even more writing on itGrumpy [|(]They only use them now for long back up moves,safer for the conductor to have a plateform to watch from as opposed to sitting or hanging from the back of a freight car.Nice sssteam shotBig Smile [:D]

Herer's a couple more photo's for everyone.

A couple CR 1500's switching just outside of Niagara Falls NY

Three shots of a bunch of CP SD40's stored at their Welland Yard,back in the power hungrey lets buy anything that will run stage in the early 90's.

Rob

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:37 PM

G'day Gents!

And not a creature was stirring . . . . not even Awk, Tex, Frosbite, Artie, Spike or Juneau! <groan> Go ahead 'n secure for the day, Ruth . . . I'll watch things. Oh yeah, if you see our Bar Chandler Pete, let him know there's Email penindg a response from yesterday. Thumbs Up [tup]

Now Arriving on Track #1

Six Pack Special Number Eleven

RR advertisements from the Classic Era

 

 

German - Berlin

 

 

Union Pacific - Las Vegas

 

 

Pennsylvania Railroad - Atlantic City

 

 

Milwaukee Road - Hiawatha Super Dome

 

 

Illinois Central - Chicago

 

 

Santa Fe - The Chief Way

 

 

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

 

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:56 AM

G'day Gents!

Really is pouring here 'n some ominous forecasts to make things worse - really rough out there. So, I'll just drop a "BK splash" into my coffee, 'n settle down inside where things are dry 'n cozy! Thumbs Up [tup]

<I see CM3 Shane has dropped one off right before mine!>

Here's another of my reworked Passenger Train Nostalgia submissions from a few years back . . .

 

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #3

<A form of this was Initially Posted on Page 121 on the Original Thread, 29 Sep 2005>

 

Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out (from The Official Guide of the Railways - 1956)



Perhaps no railroad anywhere rivaled the Canadian Pacific in terms of world wide excellence in serving the traveling public, whether by air, rail or sea. How many of you are aware of the CP's great hotel and lodge network Question [?] These proprieties were built by and for CP according to their requirements and were situated at the key rail stops and vacation sites along their main lines. 

 



CANADIAN PACIFIC HOTELS AND LODGES


City...................Name.........................Open

Kentville, NS.......Cornwallis, Inn.............All year
McAdam, NS......McAdam Hotel.............All year
Quebec, QC.......Chateau Frontenac........All year
Toronto, ON........Royal York Hotel..........All year
Winnipeg, MN.....Royal Alexandra Hotel...All year
Regina, SK.........Hotel Saskatchewan.....All year
Calgary, AB........Hotel Palliser...............All year
Victoria, BC........Empress Hotel.............All year
Kenora, ON........Devil's Gap Lodge.........June to September
Digby, NS..........The Digby Pines............June to September
Yarmouth, NS.....Lakeside Inn................June to September
St. Andrews, NB..The Algonquin Hotel......June to September
Banff, AB............Banff Springs Hotel.......June to September
Lake Louise, AB..Chateau Lake Louise.....June to September
Reached from Lake Louise:
.......................Moraine Lake Lodge.......June to September
Hector, BC.........Lake O'Hara Lodge........June to September
Hector, BC........Lake Wapta Lodge.........June to September
Field, BC..........Yoho Valley Lodge.........June to September
Vancouver, BC...Hotel Vancouver............All year

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:53 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Let's see, how about "She's Actin' Single - I'm Drinkin' Doubles,"" Redneck Martians Stole My Baby,"" Velcro Arms-Teflon Heart," and one of Awk's favorites, "We Feed Our Babies Onions So We Can Find Them in the Dark."  Oh, here's one for the track gang, "Who's Makin' Time With the Time Keeper's Daughter, When the Time Keeper's Keepin' Time?"

Rob was in with comments and CN pictures.

Nick - I model in N scale and the Atlas power I have works fine.  Most of it is in New Haven livery - Alco RS units, a U25B, and the latest a GP9.  I enjoyed looking at your layout pictures.

Allan - Good calendar.

Eric - I am sure that the electric operations you were around had pantograph rules.  PRR used two pans in icy conditions.  Remember seeing G motors in weather like that - something different than the ordinary.

Pete - Interesting to see the canal pictures.  You can find bits and pieces of the old systems in Ohio if you know where to look, and, the New York Barge Canal is very  accessible.  The western terminus of the Erie Canal in Buffalo is being rehabilitated (slowly, I might add) into an historical site.  A tremendous amount of history in a small area of the city.  Parts of the Middlesex Canal are still visible in Massachusetts - that is truly an old-timer. 

OSP was in with some good CZ material - always liked that shot on the D&RG.  Gas turbines - howling beasts for certain.  Pig trailers aka;  pigs, totes, TOFC, piggyback, or TrucTrain depending on what railroad you were around.  "Totes" was the term on the L&N - always liked that one. 

Well, let's ee if I can post this puppy today.

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, April 10, 2008 7:13 AM

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G'day Gents!

The day before Friday has arrived once again! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Only 2 more chances during the work week to enjoy our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts from our Menu Board - the freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee ‘n of course the pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case - pride of Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Comments from the Proprietor

Saturday is our 3rd Year Anniversary ‘n the expectations are moderate for a good turn-out. It will be a HUGE success if ALL of our CORE group shows up during the daylite hours. Lars "called" it - so let's see if we can DO it. This celebration is for those of you who have stuck with us over the long haul - for those who have participated in our nonsense ‘n seriousness too - for those who have been inclusive by recognizing the efforts of the other guy. Everyone else falls in line after YOU! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

My plans are to be available for several periods of daylite . . . morning - noon - late afternoon. Let's try to get some real-time interaction going as we used to during our long gone B'day Bashes . . .

HINT: In order to determine whether you have the MOST CURRENT information on your browser, ensure that you have "cleansed" your ‘puter of extraneous junk <System Tools has a utility for this>. Also, use that REFRESH/RELOAD feature OFTEN - otherwise you may wind up sitting at the ‘puter looking at a screen with data that never gets updated. YOU have to help it along. Try it - it does work. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Wednesday - April 8th: <all times Central daylite>

Page 9 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 10:35 AM: You've got snow forecast for the weekend, we'll be in the 70s (F) today ‘n who knows what the weekend may bring Question [?] We KNOW there's lots of rain in the offing. Heavy 'n severe predicted for today. Just what we don't need . . . Thumbs Down [tdn]

This is the time of year when Juneau loves sitting out on our front lawn, observing the people, critters ‘n cars passing by. He sits - we sit - it's a family thing! <grin> Fortunately there's a small decorative stone wall for people-sitting - makes it a bit easier. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] In snow ‘n ice, he seems rather puzzled that we don't just sit for "a spell" when he decides it would be a fine thing to do. Hmmmmmm. Dogs - who OWNS whomQuestion [?]

Dontchajustluvit when you get messages like THAT - "this page does not exist." Yeah, right. Today I received the 3rd Email solicitation for products offered by an outfit I ordered something from a few days ago. I specifically checked "NO" in the block that asked whether I wanted to receive sales info. So, along came the solicitations. When trying to unsubscribe on their web site, I kept getting a message that read, "We have no record of your Email address." Hmmmmmm, a conundrum, eh Question [?] So, I sent their Customer Service Dept. an Email . . . response, "We do not have a record of your Email address." <yikes> Wonder who does!?!

Sorry ‘bout the problems getting "on" - but we've all been there ‘n done that. Mighty frustrating, fer sure, fer sure.

Pig trailers! Pig trailers Question [?] Hmmmmm. Don't wanna go there, Mate! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanx for the visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 9 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:33 PM: Email received 'n responded to - thanx! 

 Borrow a step ladder Question [?] Hmmmmmm. Admission to the Can-Am Trainroom is free for Rendezvous III participants, but step ladder RENTALS aren't cheap! <uh oh>

I could enroll you in Molly Throttlebottom's Adult Learning Centre course in Image Posting for the Challenged, but found that since you're on academic probation <or is that prohibition?> with the typing course, there'd have to be a special fee. Thought about docking your salary, but then figured it's a lose-lose proposition since your bar tab now resembles a large roll of toilet tissue. <yikes>

Thanx for wintertime canal shots - really something I'd not seen before. Thumbs Up [tup] Takes a bit of doing to navigate through those narrow channels is my guess. Wow!! [wow]

Pikes Peak tram shot is a <keeper>! Yeah!! [yeah]

Visit, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND most appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 9 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 2:46 PM: Was speaking with a friend of mine in New Brunswick <Sackville> ‘n he said that "the bug" has hit NB really strong with many, many people "down" with the <hacking> <coughing> <etc.> - said his mum-in-law had it for 6 weeks, which is rapidly approaching for Moi. No cure - just has to work its way out, or something like that. <geesh> I shudda been a Doc! I could come up with that conclusion . . . Thumbs Down [tdn] Consider yourself very fortunate if you only wind up with one day of whatever "it" is . . . Glad you're back! Thumbs Up [tup]

Never receive any Emails from you - BUT don't sweat the small stuff. I've got some info for you regarding the hotel arrangement in Baie Ste-Catherine, QC, which I'll send along as we get closer to the dates . . .

Funny thing about subways - they are beneath the surface, so no one will be viewing those curves of mine! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Only visible trackwork will be at the station ‘n they are straights . . . been a project ‘n a half, fer sure, fer sure.

Not surprised regarding the outcome of that Volvo story . . . can't speak for the diesel power, but I surely can about my car. I've been happy with the performance - but with nearly 7 years logged on it, there's only 34k miles. Anyway, it's an expensive proposition to get it serviced - unbelievably high. I did purchase an extended warranty, so the couple of times anything substantial needed replacing - the plan covered ‘em. <phew> Belts ‘n hoses are impossible for the backyard mechanic to change. Not at all like the cars "back in the day." But then again, what is!?!?

Mention of Ovaltine brings to mind breakfasts with Grandpa. He had his Postum, I had my Ovaltine. <smile>

Thanx for the visit ‘n chat! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 9 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:33 PM <1:33 AM Thursday GMT>: You've really outdone yourself, Mate with those super fotos of your model trains! Wow!! [wow] Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Really appreciate your continuing support for this OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! begun so long ago as Pike Perspective Day! Remember that Question [?] Anyway, enjoyed all of the fotos ‘n have a request: back that Carlsberg car into our private siding - it would be a fine addition to the scenery ‘round "Our" Place! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I like the looks of your R/E 3/6 without the wheel assembly; a fine looking electric. Assuming the pantographs ‘work.' Swiss restaurant car looks familiar - think someone Posted the prototype awhile back . . . Hmmmmmm. Nice! Thumbs Up [tup]

A GP9 - one of my FAY-VOR-EYE-TUH locos! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Powers of observation are as keen as ever - yes, there are figures sitting atop the poster frame. They are four characters from the movie . . . And yes, Juneau was making himself at home <why not - it IS his!> while I did my thing with the shelf system.

Enola Gay - now there's a name for a train! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Hmmmmm, code name was "Little Boy" - so there WAS a steamer called, "Big Boy." Hmmmmmm. You may be on to something, Mate! <grin>

Finally, that evening shot of the river with that most captivating cloud formation - the lighting, etc. - nice work! Yeah!! [yeah] Bow [bow]

Always appreciate a visit from our Resident Londoner in Wales - ‘specially when there's so much dialogue, great fotos, good cheer ‘n a ROUND <or two>! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 9 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:37 PM: There's a lot to be said about toy trains <Lionel ‘n American Flyer> - can have a bit o' fun with ‘em, fer sure, fer sure. Of course today's O ‘n S gauge offerings hardly compare with those great electric trains from the past. Much more realism today - much more $$$$ to purchase ‘em, and so forth. But still fun! Gotta have the room, unless one is willing to simply watch ‘em go ‘round ‘n ‘round as I do with the S-Capades. Yeah!! [yeah] Polar Express has a good run - about 22 ft of straightaways on either side of that shelf system. Thumbs Up [tup]

Donation to the party fund appreciated! Good to see ya ‘n liked the 3-shot foto spate along with your chat! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

 

Page 9 - Allan <Gunneral> at 11:07 PM <6:07 PM Friday NZ time>: Aboard my last "hurrah" at sea, those working in the engine room had to wear ear protection <very similar to what is used at a firing range> due to the high pitch of the gas turbines. Sometimes I can still hear the <whine> of those beasts . . . no adverse impact on Moi, as I was an above the main decks sailor. <grin>

Based on the times you've provided, I've been adding 7 to our time here, but keeping it at PM the following day. Seems to be close enough, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

You've fit in quite well with this joint ‘n everyone who frequents it, which we can "claim" as a success story! Can only wish we could've had such a positive impact on so many others. Never, ever will understand the bent-logic of coming to this place if there is no intent to participate. Makes absolutely no sense, yet we've had a slew of ‘em who tried it. Different strokes, eh Question [?]

Special thanx for recognizing the works of others - those who put together Posts ‘n Pix surely have earned at least a bit o' that. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

I forwarded your Tui calendar to the "core" . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Enjoyed eavesdropping your comments ‘n of course a thanx for the ROUND of TUIs! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Thursday - April 10th: <all times Central daylite>:

Page 9 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:30 AM: Wow!! [wow] With 35 days ‘til Rendezvous III, best get my <keester> in gear ‘n get out the agenda! <ooooops> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Dog-people year converter: 7 x people years = dog years. Sooooooooo, I'd say they live longer! <grin> And of course they have a longer life expectancy in the colder climates, especially Husky dogs ‘n those bred in the northern latitudes. Boris told me so! <uh oh>

Just hope the Superliner Sightseer Lounge car has clean glass to view the passing scenery aboard the Empire Builder. Oh how I'd love to travel that route in the "traditional" dome cars - especially an observation dome with our bedroom right below. Yeah!! [yeah] Did so on two round trips across Canada with VIA Rail ‘n it was a gas, gas, gas! <Jumpin' Jack Flash>

Super shot of that steamer at the CLASSIC station in Sweden. Nicely done ‘n surely a <keeper>! Yeah!! [yeah] Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Another fine < I3 > Post from our Resident NOCTURNAL Desert RETIRED Swede! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:30 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, I'll have a number 2, please! Curly fries and a cold Keith's.

Busy evening so I am kind of late (or early). Good to be able to stop by for something to eat and some chat.

Tom –  I am afraid that the dog (German Shepherd) in my picture is in dog heaven since many years ago. I am trying to remember the name of it, but I guess I am having a senior moment right now.Confused [%-)] Anyway, the guy who is (was) taking care of the dog is also gone to heaven. But at least I remember his name.

I don’t know if dogs are living longer lives in the northern latitudes? Maybe, maybe not.

When you are reading this, it is 35 days to Our 3rd Annual Rendezvous! Time flies!Smile [:)]

Very nice photos of the Polar Express!!Thumbs Up [tup] In picture #4 it almost looks like the snow flying around the train. Looks pretty cold (and cool)!Yeah!! [yeah]

California Zephyr!Thumbs Up [tup] Looks very inviting to see that top photo with all dome cars! That is the way to travel! And you and your bride will soon be traveling that way. Maybe not any dome cars, but still! Smile [:)]

CM3 –  B&M tonnage cards! That sounds very interesting, hope you will be able to find them. I’ll see if I can find those numbers from the Swedish State Railways (not for any F-units but some other locomotives).Smile [:)]

Pete –  Thanks for the photo of the Pike Peak’s Cog Railway!Thumbs Up [tup] As I mentioned yesterday, I’ll very likely go to Colorado and Pike’s Peak next year again.

At one occasion I asked to have some cars cut off from the train because it was too hevy. Just a few hundred tons, but still. No problem, they uncoupled the cars in a few minutes.

Thanks for the canal photos!Thumbs Up [tup] So you lived that close to the canal? Must have been vey nice.Smile [:)] Coventry, I have been there too, to the Cathedral, the one that was bombed during WW II. And to the new one.Smile [:)]

Rob –  Oh, you met your wife on the locomotive she was operating!!?! Hmm, for some reason I think you dragged her to the locomotive so you could take that picture.Whistling [:-^] Hmmm.

Thanks for the pictures!Thumbs Up [tup] Even a slug portrayed!Yeah!! [yeah] And a caboose, still in use. Complete with graffiti, that is the sad part.Grumpy [|(]

Nick –  The reason to use the rear pantograph is in case it gets caught in something and/or breaks, maybe is swept away, it won’t break the rear pantograph too. If you use the rear one and it breaks you will still have a good one up front to use. Under some circumstances you have to use the front pantograph, for instance if you have two electrics in multiple, you may have to use the front pantograph on the lead locomotive and the rear one on the second locomotive so you spread out the up forces on the catenary of the pantographs as far apart as possible.

For DC locomotives running on 1,500 - 3,000 V you may have to use both pantographs at the same time because the current you take out from the catenary hauling a heavy train is so high.

Very nice 6-pack.Thumbs Up [tup] Swiss and American locomotives! Do you plan to add any catenary on your layout? Question [?]

Nice view close to your home!Wow!! [wow]

Allan –  I bet you have been driving under the Mohaka Bridge, but have you been riding a train across it?Question [?] Too bad about those wind breakers blocking the view from the bridge though.

 

 

Steam train at the same station as yesterday. A class B, 4-6-0.

 

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Posted by Gunneral on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 11:07 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Tui`s all round for the guys` please Leon!Yeah!! [yeah]

Rob. Thanks for the big smile in the mailbox today!Big Smile [:D] Looks as if it`s costing a lot of money nowadays for hearing loss to all of the armed forces, no wonder they are taking hearing protection so seriously now. Some nice diesel shots you posted.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. Glad you liked that NZ rail bridge page, that Mohaka Bridge with the fitted wind breaks is about 50 miles north of us, it`s real high, the main road to Gisborne passes under it. Nice shot of your X2000 train.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. Some really great pics of the Didcot Railway Centre and Newport, Pike`s Peak and the lovely set of canal narrow boat shots`.Approve [^] Glad you liked the NZ rail bridge page. Forgot to answer your remarks about me being in SR and GWR territory while steam was still running, one great experience was to walk the old track formation of the Lynton and Barnstaple narrow gauge line, I hear there is some news that they may reopen it in some form for the tourist trade in the area?Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Interesting write up on the loco tonnage ratings from you. It`s great to see that more emphasis is being placed on hearing loss these days by industry, once the profits are affected it`s amazing what can be achieved somehow.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick. Thanks for your round of Newcastle "Broon" Ale mate, slurp, slurp!Wink [;)] We used to nickname it "Journey into Space" because of it`s after effects!Sigh [sigh] That was a massive PA system pity it was distorted, I have a Technics HT Amp with a KEF speaker set up here at home which produces a very smooth realistic sound stage.  Enjoyed all those great pics of your home layout progress and all of yours and Alan`s favourite locos` and rolling stock, a very nice mix of Brit, Euro and US equipment.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike. Thanks for your kind words mate, your pics of old NY are always very interesting to those of us who`ve never had pleasure of visiting the place, and the URL`s you post are likewise!Cool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom. E-mail received with thanks, glad to hear you are on the improve with that cough of yours now, and glad you enjoyed the Tui calender too.Smile [:)] Nice bit of reminiscing from you about BITD flicks, the Saturday "Shoot Out" was a must see, was a trainee projectionist until joining the army in 1951, not at the Ritz though, was at a place called the 'Essoldo', a big chain of cinemas` in the North East of England. Enjoyed your great Passenger Train Nostalgia #`s 1 and 2 with all the colourful Heralds, the California Zephyr with the pics and poster, and a really nice set of pics in your Finale of your Polar Express shelf layout, top notch stuff thats for sure!Bow [bow] Interesting link to the Sanka and Postum drinks site. Was just doing a quick calculation about our date and time difference with you over there, we are virtually 2/3rds of a day ahead of you at 15hrs ahead of EST, it can get very confusing some times, especially on your Sundays,which is Monday over here!Confused [%-)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya, Allan

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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:37 PM

Good evening Leon , seems like it's been a fairly decent day heer today <ca-ching ca-ching >So I'll add to the pot by having a Keith's and leaving a bit extra for the april 12th bash. I see that Boris has cleaned the various cages and seed trays so I know the critters have been well tended to,have yourself a small PPF my good cyclops.Big Smile [:D]

Tom-Fine C-Z piece, like it with the shots. A fine example of the quality of this place 5xThumbs Up [tup]Fine final to the Polar express as well,it really is a well done model,makes one almost want to go to LionelWhistling [:-^]

Nick-medicinal conjac you say <burp> I think I need a refill on that thar perscription Herr DokktorLaugh [(-D].

I didn't think I was that far out of the loop,but thanks for teh update on the state of the world.You ahd me going and believing until I saw where the Blue Jays wereBig Smile [:D]

Liked the fine shots of the layout, some neat equipment to be sure Thumbs Up [tup]Liked the shot of the river as well, reminds me of the Madawaska river valley that I camped along just outside of Algonquin Park.

 The newer Atlas loco's don't take much power at all,the older Roco built ones were solid tough good runners but the roco powerplants tended to be a tad power hungry. The new drives just sip the amperageBig Smile [:D]Too bad they don't make the FP7's currently,they have reissued everything else they had made by Roco.

 Right a few pics to wind out the day.

Cn slug 257 one of the purpose made one's in transit through Brantford along with it's GP9 "mother"The bi-weekly change out for the slug geep set they keep in Sarnia.

Another Classic GP still giving yoemen service on the CN 54 yeasr old and still doing it's thing Thumbs Up [tup]

A CN dinosaur in transfer service going through Bayview JCT

enjoy

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:33 PM

Evening my dears,heard the sweet siren song of a hard working cash register and just couldn`t resist-ever the same-one sniff of a barmaid`s apron and back on the rollercoaster..........

Well then-beers all around and cognacs (medicinal) for those under the weather please and I`ll take that last tuna mayo sub for the walk home later....Thanks to all for kind words r.e. layout-sadly it will never be more than generic,given multiple modelling interests and an extremely finite supply of space,time & resources-still,the challenge is then to make the best job of it that my skills permit and make a convincing background for whichever set of stock is in favour at the time,rather than the more holistic "Midsomer Norton at ten past eleven of the 3rd of June 1953 right down to the headlines on the newsstand" approach..........

So-looks like the gangs all here (more or less)

ERIC-What a lovely little station-looks exactly as I imagine a rural Swedish station should look Approve [^] ..Wooden brake blocks were,I believe,more common than one might think.   The S&D road over the Mendip hills was a fairly tortuous and heavily graded one-banking & double heading was more the norm than the exception,with the southbound climb out of Bath,through a couple of very tight tunnel bores being especially hard on banking engine crews--thanks for the tip r.e. pantographs-have no idea of the protocols of electric operation-any idea why only the rear one should be used ??

MIKE-Nice to see you mate-some fine Gotham City sepiatone pix there-like the method of date reckoning BTW-some of us do march to a different drum Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]-will save you a seat for the B/day bash....................

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-a fine spread from the trainroom-that drumhead`makes` the train--do my eyes deceive me or are there figures sat on the top of the poster frames ???---Juneau looks to be patiently awaiting his next excursion Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]-nice job of work there mate Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3-Cant beat the buzz of a new engine Approve [^] especially given the quality of current production models-How do you find Atlas models ??--I have a pair of FP7`s from that marque (actually produced by ROCO in Austria) and like the A/E 6/6 they are beaut runners,but brutally heavy on power consumption-had to buy a new power system to accomodate them (lucked into a Gaugemaster twin unit with inertia sim. for $130-about half price....)-would value your opinion..

PETE-LOVE those narrow boat pix-what glorious countryside Thumbs Up [tup]Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]--Like you I have a great fondness for the marcher lands-is a lovely run down through the vale of Evesham and across into Powys and beyond into the lushest part of Wales-no wonder there were battles fought over it in days of yore--a treat !!

ROB-Welcome back to the land of the living-dont worry you havn`t missed much-Billy-Bob Thornton is still president,Britain is still part of the European Muslim federation,the Nigerian manned Mars probe has just landed (on Venus) ,Lhasa is still the capital of China and the Toronto Blue Jays are still top of the league Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]...............

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-Fine Streamliner piece there boss-oodles of modelling detail in those pix (hoses filling car tanks,D&RG head end cars etc.)-love the promo pieces and cut-away view-definately one for the LARSMAN there ( and Hi there to you mate if you`re looking in ) -Have mused before on the similarity between that style of car and airframe design of the time-still think the domes resemble Boeing cockpits-although I cant see a car named Enola Gay hitting the rails anytime soon..Whistling [:-^]

Right then-more beer I think whilst I have a scrabble through the pic vault and see what prize morsels I might tempt you with............................

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Right-here we have the left side of the R/E 3/6 with what I assume are the traction motor assemblies covering the driving wheels-I am sure ERIC can put me right here...This is a LIMA model from Italy (although of a Swiss engine ) This company (now part of the expanding HORNBY brand) produced examples of stock from most European countries as well as Brit outline (in both H.O & O.O scales) and as far afield as South Africa

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And here is the other side of her-seems to be a good runner despite only having the standard Lima `pancake` motor-only picks up from the driving wheels but should be okay over dead frog turnouts ( I hope...)

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Here she is again with a mixed bag local-3 Austrian 4-Wheelers from ROCO plus an elderly bogie 2nd from FLEISHMANN

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Another LIMA car-this time a Swiss rest. car(note pantograph)-apologies for the `blur`

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A closer view of the freight train-I actually bought all these cars as various Xmas & B/day prezzies for Alan (whats the point of a B/day without a new train says I !!)-The gaping hole in the backscene above is home to a drop-in station scene module of low relief buildings rescued from a Thomas the tank engine press out and stick book of Hannah`s-suprisingly close to scale (insert tab `A` into slot`B` etc)-the lumber yard scene in front tends to draw the eye away from it......

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And for a change of pace-Here is a GP9 setting out a B+O boxcar outside the sawmill down in the industrial district at the bottom of the layout

Right then chaps-theres my 6-pack ( not a sentence I use every day )-lets see about some fish & chips tomorrow (assuming I am capable after Blues band practice night.....)

To continue the "near where I live " theme begun earlier-here is a last one-The river Cleddau,at the point where Llangwm pill & Edwards pill join the main river-looking downstream at twilight on an autumn evening-there is a transport link-coal from the Hook pits (about a mile upstream) used to come past here in coasters after being brought down from the pits by either tramcars or ropeways

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O.K. guys-have a good one-speak soon

Chef [C=:-)]    

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:07 PM

G'day Gents!

Was going to let you off early Ruth, but then noticed Manager Rob had Posted on "my other Thread" . . . figured he by soon 'n he did! Thumbs Up [tup]  And of course Bar Chandler Pete was 'due' - 'n he came through too Thumbs Up [tup]- so you're still behind the bar! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] <Ka Ching> <KaChing>

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Time for another installment of Passenger Train Nostalgia - all reworked for "Our" Place III . . .

 

 

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #2 
 

<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 117  of the Original Thread, 24 Sep 2005>

 

 

Here's a little something taken from the literature associated with the California-Zephyr and its Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge:

 



Rest and Relaxation in the "Vista-Dome" Lounge-Observation Car

California Zephyr passing trains <foto: Otto Roach>

 

D&RGW #1145 Silver Sky "California Zephyr" <c. 1994 Corel Corp>



The spacious and luxurious lounge-observation car at the rear of the train and immediately behind the sleeping cars, furnishes congenial lounging facilities on three different levels for as many as fifty passengers.

Modern ingenious designing and expert fabrication combine to make a composite unit of four distinctly separate accommodations in this exquisite car.

The ‘main floor" lounge is located within the gracefully rounded end of the observation car. Here, deeply-cushioned occasionally chairs and settees, in shades of sandalwood and brown in a setting of rose-tan and petal beige, invite complete relaxation.

Carpeted and individually-lighted steps from the lounge lead to the distinctive air-conditioned "Vista-Dome - tastefully decorated in tones of sandalwood. Here, enclosed in shatter-proof, glare-resistant glass, are twenty-four deep-cushioned seats, where passengers may ride in comfort and enjoy a complete view in every direction.

Nestled beneath the Dome is a buffet. Tastefully decorated in rose and gray-green, it provides a delightful rendezvous in which to speed the miles and minutes. At one end of the buffet is a refreshment counter with carved linoleum base and back bar of stainless steel and etched mirrors. Electric refrigeration units assure an ample supply of cool, refreshing beverages at all times. The buffet has a telephone connection with the dining car, over which table reservations can be made.

Forward from the buffet are three bedrooms and a drawing room, each having enclosed toilet facilities. Each room is attractively decorated in harmonious shades of rose-tan, petal beige, taupe and ashes of roses.

This car is completely carpeted and windows are equipped with Venetian blinds - those in the observation-lounge having drapes of gold and white.

<From the "American Passenger Train" >


 

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The cover of a pre-inaugural brochure for the California Zephyr passenger train. Printer's bug indicates either a February or May 1949 printing. A cutaway view of the train's famed "Vista Domes" dominates the scene. 

 

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Of note: The design of these Budd manufactured cars carries over to this day with the VIA Rail Canada fleet of Park Car observation domes. With slight modifications, the literature quoted above could be closely associated with the cars still in use in Canada.

  

Enjoy!  Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom
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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 2:46 PM

Good afternoon Ruth nice to catch you ebfore you run off again today. Just a big thermos of teh BK speacial for me at the moment please.Had a round of teh 24 hour daeth yesterday still teetering on the brink but at least the coughing is gone.

Tom-Great to see the redo of the classic passeneger trains yesterday sorry I didn't make it it,I barely made it out of bed,I'm better now though Thumbs Up [tup]

18 and 22 radius on the subways is more than generous,should make them look even better Thumbs Up [tup] I have a CD with that fine Kingston trio number on it,for some reason it's a favourite round this haus.

I wouldn't even want to guess at what belts for your Volvo will cost. I've likely told the story before but a good freind of mine is a boat mechanic,and he had a guy come in with a good sized yaht powered by a pair  of Volva/Penta diesels. He came in on the wrong side of the channel markers and scrapped the outdrive ( peeled off the aluminun tranny cover on his port motor )Now my freind is licenced to aservic and sell parts for the Volvo marine engines so he called up the  part supplyer,his cost ( and he's a volume dealer ) was a $1000 just for the tranny coverShock [:O]

Eric-Great shot of that station today nice looking building Thumbs Up [tup]I not only complemented that female engineer I married her Thumbs Up [tup] She was just mugging for the camera but hey she did look the part Thumbs Up [tup]

Shane-Postom is still drank regularyly around here along with ovaltine,I think I have a couple year old jar of it in a cupboard somewhere.Has a unique malted taste. Much better than any gormet application of mushy peasDead [xx(]

Mike-Nice to see you with some photo's hope your back before the 750th monthiversary Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick-Great layout shots no matter what you say sir Thumbs Up [tup] Thanks for the story about Allan as well. I just hope that you don't try to incorporate any of those gormet mushy pea recipies into the weekly fish fry. <uh oh >Sad [:(]

Pete-I see that you have snuck in right ahead of me,join me for a pint of something while a read your ramblings for the day,fine looking canal shots as well Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob

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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 2:33 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Holden's Mild please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

NICK The band is looking in good form for the 12thApprove [^]. Great selection on Herr Wurlitzer last night.Thumbs Up [tup]

Another thing on British railways that has disappeared along with the loose coupled un-vacuumed braked goods trains are the trailing spring loaded ‘Catch Points' ,which were situated on grades to derail any wagons that broke away while climbing the grade. The last ones I can recall was on the Welsh Marches line between Shrewsbury and Newport.

Very interesting on the Llechwedd quarries and the operation of the electric railwayThumbs Up [tup].

Glad you enjoyed the photosThumbs Up [tup], the Welsh Marches used to be one of my favorite routes with nice scenery and some good hill climbingApprove [^]. An added bonus was a Sam Smith's pub near Newport station.Approve [^]

 Many thanks for the photos of your layout it Thumbs Up [tup]will be good to see them as work progressesYeah!! [yeah]. Those are great models from Alan's collection.Approve [^]Bow [bow]

MIKE Thanks for the photos.Thumbs Up [tup] Hope you are able to join us for the 12thYeah!! [yeah]

ERIC A photo of the Pike's Peak Railway from one of the cars as it climbs to the summitThumbs Up [tup]

Yes the Oxford Canal is name after the city, I am not too much up on canals but I think that at Oxford, the canal joins the River Thames for the journey to London. The Thames in Oxford is known as the Isis.

When you were an engineer did you ever have cause to refuse to take a train because it was over weightQuestion [?]. I recall an old driver telling me, when he was a fireman, about his driver refusing to take a train out of Birmingham New Street (which as a grade in tunnels at both ends of the station). The Stationmaster told him to leave but he stuck to his guns until he got a pilot locomotive. After they got an assisting engine they left and both locomotives were slipping in the tunnel but got to the top. The driver said to the fireman ‘If we had gone with just the train locomotive you would be walking back down the tunnel to tell them we were stuck"

Yes ‘Flying Pig' was the nickname of the Ivatt class 4s.

Thanks for the photo of the pleasant looking station at OsmoApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. By an Our Place co-incidence Alien [alien]you have a photo of a place near your old hometown and I had already scanned some photos of the canal at the back of my old home.

Looking towards Coventry.

The other side of the bridge in the photo before. This bridge is one of the originals from when the canal was built in the 1780s. There is a plate with the bridge number 50 on, when walking from Brinklow along the canal there are gaps in the numbers of the bridges. This is where parts of the canal was re-built in the 1830s with a straighter course involving embankments and cuttings. 

Looking in the other direction from the 1st photo, towards Rugby and Oxford. My old house was down the embankment by the front of the barge. Note the bike on the back,I guess the canal equivilent of the RV towing a car.Big Smile [:D]

CM3 In BR days the Welsh Dragon named train must have been the shortest distance a named train worked. It ran from the North Wales seaside resorts of Rhyl and Llandudno a distance of about 17 miles and it stopped at all stations if I recall right. I cannot recall riding behind hauled by steamSigh [sigh] by I have seen a photo of it with a headboard and a couple of coaches. I traveled on in the late 1950s when it was formed of two two-car early Derby built DMUs, without a headboard but with the name The Welsh Dragon on boards just below the roofline.

I will look forward to those tonnage cards for the F units if you can find them.Thumbs Up [tup]

TOM Glad the rains skirted you yesterdayThumbs Up [tup], we had a fair bit of rain for a while. They are saying we are in for some more heavy rain tomorrow coupled with thunderstorms Thumbs Down [tdn]    

Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup].

Yes I did enjoy the Passenger Train Nostalgia yesterdayThumbs Up [tup], those heralds really added to the postYeah!! [yeah]. I would not even know how to start to get them in a post, I have just about worked out to get photos from my photobucket.Sigh [sigh]

I got your e-mail todayThumbs Up [tup] but I think it has been playing up againBanged Head [banghead] Alan said he sent one last weekend but I did not get it.

I though RUTH had aged a bit yesterdayShock [:O] but I am far too polite to say anythingAngel [angel]Smile [:)].

Many thanks for the Finale of the Polar Express shelf system buildingThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. The baggage and dining cars add to the train and the drumhead really is a nice touchBow [bow], I will have to borrow a stepladder the next time I am over so I can see it at eye-levelYeah!! [yeah]. As you say in photo number 4 it is looking real goodBow [bow]. I bet you can hear the bell ringApprove [^] (it was such a good film that details like that are rememberedThumbs Up [tup])

Well RUTH a round pleaseThumbs Up [tup] and has BORIS made sure the Mascots have their treatsQuestion [?], he hasApprove [^], good so the small jar of PPFs for him thenThumbs Up [tup]

Pete. 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:25 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.   Cloudy here this morning but it is going to warm up today.  Then they are forecasting snow for the weekend.  Anyway, the K9 Korps has now assumed official observation post on the back porch.

I aplogize for the lateness of this post, but I have been trying to log in since 9:00 am. (ET) only to be told the "page does not exist."  The neat part was that I could read what was on the site.  Love it!

Anyway, here goes.

Nick - All layouts are works in progress.  I am still building structures and acquiring rolling stock, etc.  Latest is an Atlas GP9 (New Haven colors) - fine looking beast.  I like the electric engines in your collection. 

Pete was by with comments and photos.  "Welsh Dragon"  is a great train name.

Mike was in with some pictures as well.  The NYC office building before it was obscured and also some shots of the Waldorf, before, during and after.  Now let's see - the artillery is bombarding the Bronx on one side and Penn Station on the other.

OSP - Look at all them spiffy heralds - it is hard to find those.  Incidentally, the ACL herald is the one which used to be on their pig trailers.  Enjoyed your Polar Express coverage, too.

Eric - I recall we talked about leaves on tracks before.  Somewhere I have a set of B&M tonnage cards which show the differences between summer and winter loadings for F units.  We must hunt for these and put them up here in some kind of readable format.

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 9:44 AM

G'day Gents!

It's our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! here at the Tavern by the Tracks. And time again for an installment of the construction of my Polar Express shelf system - #4 ‘n FINALE in the series.

 

(1) Cool jewels!

 

(2) Movie posters! <Note the bell . . . if you've seen the movie, you know what it represents!>

 

(3) Longer consist! <added baggage ‘n dining cars>

 

(4) Lookin' good!

 

(5) Makes ya wanna ride!

 

(6) Drumhead!

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

Missed any Question [?]

Click the URL - the #1 is on Page 200 of "Our" Place II

http://cs.trains.com/forums/201/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960

#2 is on Page 2 of this Thread!

#3 . . . Page 6

 

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:01 AM

<personal foto>

Wednesday's Witticism

A change of pasture kin make the calf fatter.

G'day Gents!

Mid-week in mid-continent USA ‘n time again to do what comes naturally <or at least by now it should be!> - fill up the coffee mugs, check out the pastry case ‘n take a look at our Menu Board! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tuesday heavy rains skirted us <yay> - was cloudy ‘n decent temps throughout the day. Another storm system expected on Thursday . . . I'm hoping for a decent "dry out" in order for the ground water to dissipate - might help things with the basement. <groan>

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Continuing accolades to Rob ‘n CM3 Shane for helping to keep "my other Thread" going! Five-Thumbs Up [tup] Salute to YOU!

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Noticed that Nick stopped by on Tuesday with some Pix for the lonely Thread - much appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Tuesday - April 8th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 8 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:44 AM: Got a <snicker> from your "Thought for the Day."> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I too watched the NCAA round ball Championship even though "my team" wasn't in it. Thought <weeks ago> Memphis would win it all - but was happy to see Kansas pull it out. They both played hard ‘n it was a good ‘n exciting game.

Cardinals tied their game in the 9th only to lose it in the bottom half - Astros hit 4 homers on Monday nite. <ugh> Cards WON in a thriller on Tuesday - 5 to 3. Yeah!! [yeah]

Noted the BoSox picked up their jewelry then added to the woes of the Tiggers . . .

Appears the Celtics may wind up the NBA season with the best overall record. Throwback to days of yore . . .

Lady Vols did it again - that coach <Pat Summitt> undoubtedly has her act together with the success of her program . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

You'd be wise to be wise when it comes to dealings with Vito . . . <uh oh> Remind me to tell y'all at the Rendezvous about a trip I made to Lost Wages <Las Vegas> on business . . . Vito's World fer sure, fer sure.

Thanx for the chat, quarters ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 8 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:59 PM: Good to see ya Thumbs Up [tup] after another period of daytime drought. Surely ain't the olde tymes ‘round the Hit ‘n Miss Bar ‘n Grill. <groan>

Nice spate of three fotos - always liked the looks of those Staniers! Yeah!! [yeah]

Just to clarify a bit - that Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 was completely reworked - the previous submissions didn't have the flags - took a bit of "doing" to come up with those. Glad you enjoyed it. Thumbs Up [tup]

I never could "handle" Sanka - just not for Moi, even though I'm a decaf kinda guy <unleaded>. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Your Email has failed you again OR . . . no problem, nothing in them that is perishable.

Thanx for the ROUND Thumbs Up [tup] - but it was Moi behind the bar - Ruth was given the afternoon "off." <uh oh>

Page 8 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:08 PM <2:08 AM Wednesday GMT>: Figured you were up ‘n about the decks - just a matter of when we'd see ya at the bar! Thumbs Up [tup]

With such a fine selection of tunes, the echo was unbelievable in this empty bar of ours. The critters were in hiding ‘n the reverbs shook the dust from our ceiling fixtures<geesh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Enjoyed ALL of your train room shots . . . always interesting to check out a work in progress. Nothing to apologize about <aboot for Rob>. Anyway, appears the two of us take fotos as we go along with our model RR ventures . . . later on it's kinda nice to see where one has been, eh Question [?]

Those trains from your father-in-law's collection are <keepers> fer sure, fer sure! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for the fine inclusive Post ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 8 - Mike <wanswheel> at 9:17 PM: So what does one say to a guy who evaded ‘n avoided a <tweeting> Question [?] The return to the bar from a self-proclaimed UTB - you've picked up another title - TI <tweeter ignorerER>. Last time we saw you was over at "Our" Place II - then gone-zo . . .

Some fine New York City shots - approaches to "the station" of interest.

Coming back for the 12th, eh Question [?] Bring along your interactive side - we're in hopes that some real time exchanges will take place.

ROUND appreciated . . .

Wednesday - April 8th <all times Central daylite>: 

Page 8 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:03 AM: An "early" visit from our Resident NOCTURNAL Desert RETIRED Swede! <grin> Good to see ya no matter what the time. Thumbs Up [tup]

Like that train station shot with the guy walking along with his dog. Must be quite an old dog by now, eh Question [?] I've heard that dogs live long lives in the northern latitudes . . . C'mon Juneau, we're heading to Alaska! Yeah!! [yeah]

Enjoyed your powers of reasoning regarding the date for the New York Central! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

What, no "count down" to Rendezvous III Question [?]

Many thanx for another of your fine inclusive visits! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 12:03 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, my friend. A number 4 please! A cold Tui to drink!

Interesting things being found here today. As usual!

Tom –  The day has 24 hours, better use as many as possible whenever possible.Wink [;)]

I think your list of most known railroads is pretty complete.Thumbs Up [tup] Interesting to see when they started. But is 1914 the correct year for New York Central? As far as I can see ten railroads merged on May 17, 1853 to form New York Central. But the same year Cornelius Vanderbilt gained control of NYC and merged it with his Hudson River Railroad (NYC&HR). To reach Chicago the NYC&HR acquired control of the Lake Shore & Michigan Soutern. In 1914 NYC&HR formally merged with LS&MS and the result was New York Central. Now I know, always learning something!Wink [;)]

CM3 –  Maybe written orders were common, but in my opinion it would have been better service if the waiter had written down the order and then shown it to the customer. But who cares?Confused [%-)]

Pete –  Next time I get to Pike’s Peak I will take the train! Probably next year.Smile [:)]

Looking forward to see some more photos from the canals! Oxford Canal, is that named after Oxford, the city?Question [?] I have been to Oxford once and visited the University.

Each route has weight limits for each class of locomotives, single locomotives and multiple units. As an engineer you will get information of the weight of the train before you start and then you are responsible that you are not hauling a train that is too heavy. In the fall, when the leafs are coming down making the rails very slippery they usually (depending on the terrain, ups and downs and sharp curves) lower the limit.Smile [:)]

Thanks for the photos of those well kept locomotives! Flying Pig, is that the nickname of class 4? Question [?]

Nick –  Brake blocks of wood, they didn’t last very long.Smile [:)] I am sure the locomotives did most of the braking in those trains so I am not surprised if they needed to replace the blocks after each trip.

Interesting photos of your layout!Thumbs Up [tup] Wish I had room for layout for my model trains. Also interesting to see that you are running Swiss and French trains. And a Carlsberg freight car.Oops [oops] Why don’t you send it to the siding outside Our Place.Question [?] We’ll be happy to take care of the load. I think you should lower the front pantograph on your electrics. I used to have a AE6/6 model myself.

Mike –  Good to see you again, Sir!Smile [:)] I think the market will bear your retrun much sooner than at the 200th Anniversary of the Stockton & Darlington or the 730th monthiversary of this place!

Interesting pictures of Waldorf Astoria and Grand Central! Thumbs Up [tup]



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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 9:17 PM

Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

"Old UTBs never die, they just fade away," to paraphrase a famous resident of the Waldorf Towers.

I shall return for the 200th anniversary of the Stockton & Darlington, or the 730th monthiversary of this fine establishment, or even sooner if the market will bear it. In the meantime, thanks Allan for generous notice above and beyond the call of inclusivity, and thanks Tom for the link to Arlo's magic carpet made of steel.

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 8:08 PM

Well here we are again Big Smile [:D]-Leon,I fancy a change tonight-lets celibrate the return to fortune of ALLAN`s beloved `Toon` with a lightly chilled bottle of Newcastle brown if you please-indeed,set up a rack of them for the boys-lets share a taste experience-whilst I bow to none in my appreciation of fine Czech Pilsner,there is no substitute for the warm nutty flavour of a good brown ale on a winters evening Approve [^]

Right,a busy evening behind me ( new strings on both the Tele`s ready for the weekend and a set list thrashed out for same,a couple of hours practice with my new fretless bass ready for blues band shows plus some new pix uploaded ) and I am ready to relax-lets knock the volume up on Herr Wurlitzer and shake off some dust -how about `Sunshine of your love` & `White room` by Cream,`Stay with me` from the Faces,`Over,under,sideways,down` by the Yardbirds,`Wheels on fire` from Julie Driscoll,Brian Auger & the trinity,Hendrix`s sublime `Watchtower`and the deeply sinister `Gimme shelter` from the Stones..................

O.K-to the business of the day:-

ALLAN-That P.A was provided by the organisers of the gig-in fact was the worst sound we have ever had-crew were of the " Couldn`t find their butts with both hands & a torch" variety-was set up on a flatbed trailer & all the speakers you can see on the stage were feeding vibrations straight into the mics in a horrible feedback loop-people a mile across town could hear what was happening better than we could-back to basics time-keep time in your head & watch everybody else for cues.....As I was using the open `G` tuned tele in that shot,its either "Everyday is a winding road" by Sheryl Crow or "I will follow" by U2................And yes,everything on that line (see shot of Lydham Manor) was in ex-works condition-proper Great Western style guv.........

ROB-Yes mate-it is a good thing when ones in-laws share your interests (at least our spouses knew what they were getting in to....)-Alan was also a keen musician and played the organ for his local church until very near the end-indeed,the priest who gave his funeral mass remarked on the fact that he would invariably turn up on the day and attempt to sight-read the days pieces with sometimes comical results-raised one of the few smiles of the day Approve [^]-when in doubt,wing it & grin a lot..............

ERIC-A nice pic there mate-not least for the `people watching `potential-so many different folk,all with a tale to tell-good stuff !!!    Loose coupled freights were a tricky business to be sure-as you so rightly suggest-the `slack` on a long train could have all sorts of consequences-not least,the guard/conductor being thrown the length of his van by the whiplash-snapped coupler chains were another hazard--also it was regular practice to bring loose coupled freights to a dead stop at the top of grades so that every 5th wagon or so could have it`s handbrake `pinned down` before attempting the descent......As I understand it,on the old Somerset & Dorset line,the big 7F 2-8-0`s needed their brake blocks replacing after every trip between Bath & Evercreech Jn until they changed from wood to iron...and to ease your confusion,`my` Alan is not the supplier of cool Euro pix-that is one of PETE`s mates..

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-Hey Boss-hope today finds you feeling better than yesterday mate....Yes that Bagnall is definately less form,more function-to answer everybodys queries on that....The Llechwedd quarries (above Blaenau Ffestiniog-upper station of the eponymous railway ) built their own power station in 1904 (presumably hydro powered given that it is halfway up a mountain in a place where it rains more often than not) and converted part of their internal rail system in 1926/7 to D.C current electric-am guessing it was,as ERIC suggests, a trolleybus type system with both feed & return overhead......this pic is dated to 1970 up on the #5 level ( a long way up )--also of interest are the wheel behind the engine-the upper end of a `Blondin` cable lift to the lower levels and the open -ended wagons with double flanged wheels loose on the axles,for use outside the loco-worked tracks,where the gauge was `approximate` at best................A fine display of heralds from the man today-an object lesson for todays graphic artists-keep it simple & stylish.....Thumbs Up [tup]Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup].....And yes ,that G.W loco is a beaut-you couldn`t pay people to get a finish like that-only the love of a volunteer could get a shine that deep Approve [^]

CM3-Creative cooking with mushy peas ---------words fail me-I would pay good cash money to see that (although perhaps not to taste the results.....)  

PETE-Fine Didcot shots,especially that rarest of beasts-a G.W saddle tank Approve [^]-also the Castle & Manor side by side-one of them was in steam working the shuttle the day we visited,to my shame I cant remember which-will look out the pix-I know I have a nice side on view of it in the `station` part of the site-also some shots of the broad gauge `station` at the top end....Love that shot of the `Welsh Dragon` with the Old White Lion inn in the background-a 1000 years of history in a single pic...........

Now then-It`s wednesday at this end of the bar so I am going to stretch a rule and throw some model pix at you--Leon-another round for the chaps please-with snacks-progress continues slowly on the restoration-as will be seen,all buildings have been removed to prevent damage (and as many will be changed anyway for `Brit running season`) also rust on rails has required use of a power sander to remove in many locations-how to build a fine scale layout-start with code 100 rail in a damp shed-10 years later you have code 70 rail.......Hmmmmmm

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Yes ,I agree-its ugly,but I will get a result here.....

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Two of the least flattering pix I ever hope to show-hopefully they will be the `before` section of a larger portrait..

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And so to the object of the exercise-some views of Alans much loved trains-at the back we have an S.N.C.F bo-bo with a Swiss 2nd and French rest. & 2 1st`s ,at the front a Swiss Ge3/5 with a mix of Dutch,Danish,Austrian & Swiss freight in the middle of the desolation

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The 3/5 again with local traffic coaches-a mix of 4 wheelers and bogies

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The pride of the fleet-the Gotthard express-AE6/6 (by ROCO-runs like a swiss watch Approve [^])with mixed Swiss stock-note rest. car (red) with pantograph................. outrageously sharp #4 turnouts also visible-part of the plan is to re-lay with some much gentler plant (#`s 6-10)  also inherited from my dear friend

O.K chaps-thats me for the night-hopefully back tomorrow with some close ups of the incredible detail work on thes babies-sleep well-another endless ramble closes-thanks for your patience

Chef [C=:-)]

 

 
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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 4:59 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

NICK. It was amazing that the people on the barges lived and raised families in the small space there was on those coal hauling narrow boats.

I am sure you would really enjoy the Severn Valley RailwayThumbs Up [tup]. It looks like the fall when I shall be over and a trip on the SVR. If you do get a chance to ride the line you will have the try the King and Castle pub at Kidderminster Town and the Railwayman's Arms at BridgnorthApprove [^], which is situated in the old buffet and let me know what you think of the BathamsYeah!! [yeah].

Many thanks for the photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup], I would have loved to see that wonderful Bagnall at work.Yeah!! [yeah]. Lydham Manor does indeed look in great condition Approve [^],it is one of those locomotives that not a lot is written about, but as done a great deal of work on the steeply graded Paignton to Kingswear lineBow [bow]. Your photo has really caught that great deep red colour on Prince of Wales very wellBow [bow]. Alan looks to have really enjoyed himself when he was around steam locomotives and I bet he enjoyed the days he saw them when he was with you.

ALLAN Many thanks for the link to those fine New Zealand Railway BridgesApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. The South Rangitikei Viaduct looks a remarkable structureBow [bow], with the slender pillars and being built to withstand an earthquake.

Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. Yes those three wins have done the Toon a power of good,Approve [^] lets hope than can keep it up for the few games that are left in this seasonThumbs Up [tup].

ROB They did forecast some rain for Sunday here, but it stayed fine so more work for meSigh [sigh]Big Smile [:D], it as rained here quite heavy today though.

It was amazing how some of the steam engines kept working especially towards the end of steam in the UK considering the external state the locos were in.

Yes from what I have seen there is some beautiful scenery in Canada as well.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

ERIC Yes we took the train up to the summit at Pike's Peak it was a great journey on a clear day with some great viewsApprove [^] it must have been even better when the trains were worked by steamWow!! [wow].

I will sort out some more photos of the canalThumbs Up [tup]. I have had a couple of short trips on a narrow boat on the Oxford Canal near my old home it is great fun, with some exercise built in while negotiating the locks opening the gates.

Thanks for the info on the Gata accident and the advance signalThumbs Up [tup]. It is good to see a new branch line laid and ready to be connected to the main lineApprove [^].

Yes the SVR is a preserved line; it was a former Great Western railway branch that ran from Kidderminster to Shrewsbury, the line north of Bridgnorth is no longer in existence.

Thanks for the photo of the X2000 at Youngstown.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 Thanks for the info on Sanka and PostumThumbs Up [tup]. I see in the link to Postum Captain [4:-)]Tom provided, it said the production of it had ceased in the winter of 2007Sad [:(], I don't suppose I shall get to sample it now and what will the Graphic Artist do now. I wonder if it was as good as the label said it was.

That is an interesting subject on the load limits for certain locomotives on each routeYeah!! [yeah]. I guess it is easier with modern motive power than with steam and the older classes of diesels. Sometimes, I would think, that a personal knowledge of a certain class would overrule from what it said in the book It must have been interesting watching the power bureau people do their workBow [bow]. I guess they had to arrange the trains weight by the power available.

I had forgotten just how good the mushy peas tastedApprove [^]; I am not surprised they were featured on TV.Smile [:)] Only hope they don't become the next ‘gourmet' food or the price for them will go through the roofShock [:O]Big Smile [:D]   

TOM Many thanks for the links to Sanka and PostumThumbs Up [tup]. I learnt that de-caffeinated coffee was invented as long a go as 1903Wow!! [wow]. I will have to try some if they any on the Amtrak trains through here.Yeah!! [yeah]

Glad you enjoyed the photos.Yeah!! [yeah]

I will have to go back for a listen to Norah Jones on U-Tube as it was playing a bit and then stopping when I tried just now.Sigh [sigh]

Many thanks for the re-run of the Passenger Train Nostalgia #1Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. As you say those names, although today I think it is just the Union Pacific, Canadian Pacific and the Kansas City Southern that has kept their original name, the other lines are still very well knownApprove [^]. Of course it helps to someone who did not grow up with those names, like me to have read about their history and routes at Our PlaceYeah!! [yeah].

A couple of photos from the Didcot Railway Centre houdsed in the former GWR Didcot engine shed.

A GWR 0-6-2T 5600 class No 6697 and a GWR 0-6-0ST with a shunters wagon between them while a GW 0-6-0 PT looks on.

 

GWR Castle class 5051 Drysllwyn Castle and Manor class 7808 Cookham Manor 4-6-0s stand outside the shed.

 Stanier ex LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 5000and Ivatt 2-6-0'Flying Pig' class 4 No. 43106 at Newport, South Wales, getting ready to turn on the wye ready to return a steam tour along the Welsh Marches. I am sure Nick will note the name of the trainSmile [:)].

Well I had better get a round in to keep the tills turning please RUTH.

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 1:37 PM

G'day Gents!

Go ahead 'n secure for the day, Ruth - it's famine time again. Thumbs Down [tdn] Good to see CM3 Shane stop by earlier this morning. Thumbs Up [tup]

I've decided to roll out my Passsenger Train Nostalgia series - all reworked for "Our" Place III - so here we go <again>! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

 

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #1

<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 113 of the Original Thread, 20 Sep 2005>

Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out .......

Many of the passenger railroads we've heard of and perhaps traveled aboard, had their start up in the 1800's and early 1900's. Check out these names of perhaps the best known:

Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe (1863)
Atlantic Coast Line (1900)
Baltimore & Ohio (1827) #1
Boston & Maine (1835)
Canadian Pacific (1881)
Chesapeake & Ohio (1867)
Chicago & Northwestern (1859)
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (1855)
Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul ("The Milwaukee Road," 1874)
Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific (1866)
Erie (1859)
Great Northern (1889)
Illinois Central (1851)
Kansas City Southern (1900)
Lehigh Valley (1855)
Louisville & Nashville (1850)
Missouri Pacific (1879)
New York Central (1914, although the formal adoption of that name came later)
New York, Chicago & St. Louis ("Nickel Plate Road," 1881)
Norfolk & Western (1881)
Northern Pacific (1864)
Pennsylvania Railroad (1846)
Seaboard Air Line (1900)
Southern Pacific (1884)
Southern Railway (1887)
Union Pacific (1862)
Wabash (1877)
Western Pacific (1903)

<Dates from The American Passenger Train; flags from numerous sources>

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)]Pirate [oX)]

 

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 8:44 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox.  I knew I should not have stayed up so late but I wanted to see how the basketball game came out.

Thought for the Day: "If history repeats itself, I think we can expect the same thing again."

Pete;  Sanka is decaf coffee.  Now, I am looking at a jar of Postum which I retrieved from the shelves above the always working coffee pot in the cooking area at work; one of our graphic artists drinks the stuff.  It is made from wheat bran, wheat, molasses, and maltodextrin (from corn).  The label says, "Ease into your day with Postum - made from a special blend of roasted grains.  Postum is a delicious, naturally caffeine free alternative to coffee or tea.  Sort of smells like the high-powered grain mixture my father in law used to give to his horses in the winter to keep them healthy.   Almost forgot - Food Channel was doing something from UK the other night and they were discussing, "Creative dishes with mushy peas."  So help me!

Most railroads have tonnage ratings for locomotives which they use to determine power that is applied to trains.  As the name implies the determination is made by train weight rather than number of cars.  Other factors that influence these decisions are terrain, weather, wind, etc. - IOW, it's a little more complicated than it looks. 

Some roads, Boston and Maine comes to mind, have (had) different tonnage ratings for seasons.  For example, winter meant less tonnage for certain types of locomotives.  This was due, of course, to weather conditions and to increased rolling resistance of cars, especially when they had friction bearings.  I spent some time watching power bureau folks do their stuff - it was fascinating.

Nick - Great pictures.  Is the first one at a slate quarry?  Also the Devon Belle is beautiful!

Allan - we spend a lot of time dealing with hearing loss and hearing protection.  Our line of work deals with lots of noise, of course, in confined spaces. 

Rob was by with observations and comments.

Eric - written orders were a common practice on U.S. dining cars.  Reason was to prevent confusion, keep accounts correct and so on.

OSP sent more B&O items along.  Enjoyed looking at the B&O menu.  Noticed that they had the B&O salad bowl on the Royal Blue trains - this was a feature of their diners, right up to the end.  Incidentally, I talked with Vito.  He said something about "wheel men" which I don't believe had anything to do with automotive maintenance.  We had lots of them in the old neighborhood. 

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 6:51 AM

<personal foto>

 

G'day Gents!

As the saying goes, "All good things must come to an end," as the rains have returned to mid-continent USA. We had three glorious spring days of decent temps ‘n sunshine. Probably overstayed its welcome . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Coffee ‘n pastries are ready along with the breakfasts from our Menu Board! Thumbs Up [tup] NO better way to begin a Tuesday than to spend a bit ‘o time with us at the Saloon by the Siding. Yeah!! [yeah]

 

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Would appreciate some help over on "my other Thread." Nothing more than checking the times of the last Post - if you see it's been awhile - stop in. The idea is to drop off ONE foto OR make a comment or three. It's that simple ‘n would HELP in attracting some new blood . . .

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Monday - April 7th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 8 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:24 AM: You may want to take advantage of the interest rates being offered by The Mentor Village Second National Bank <Pres/CEO Vito the Hit> . . . special this week is for automobile preventive maintenance ‘n routine service. A choice: Your tax rebate OR combined gold ‘n silver values of "things" in your hut - whichever is higher <of course>. <uh oh> Yeah, it's simply mind boggling what the costs to maintain an automobile are these days <daze>. I don't even wanna think about having to replace the belts in the Volvo . . . I'm only at 34xxx miles, but the car is nearing 7 years in age. Soooooooooo, belts ‘n hoses are on the horizon. <yikes> Recently replaced the tires - NOT for wear but because of age.

I think you'd enjoy the Jesse James flick - a totally different "twist" ‘n not badly done.

This flash - Cards are being beaten by the Astros, 3-zip - all solo homers down in Houston. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Appreciate the rental car, NH ‘n B&O info - visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 8 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:10 AM: Always a better day when our Resident Ontario Connection ‘n Manager makes it "in." Thumbs Up [tup]

Those subway cars I have are all recommended for 15" radius . . . but my subway system uses 18" for the inner oval ‘n 22" for the outer. Four car consists traveling in opposite directions. I expect to provide fotos in June . . . May is going to be a busy, busy month.

I'd certainly be at a loss to explain those fotos! Wow!! [wow]

Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n Pix! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 8 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:49 PM: Sanka ‘n Postum bring back memories of early days <daze> for me. My grandpa <maternal> used to drink Postum ; haven't seen it in decades - 'n Sanka is still around - in fact Amtrak serves it. Rather than have me expound on either - check out the links to satisfy your curiosity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postum

We can think late fall or winter for N'rlns . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Enjoyed eavesdropping your Post ‘n course liked the fotos! Thumbs Up [tup]

ROUND ‘n inclusive Post appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 8 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:16 PM <12:16 AM Tuesday GMT>: Most happy to have our Resident Londoner in Wales aboard for a Monday evening at the Bar by the Ballast <a term "coined" by Nick some time ago . . .>

A link for those interested in hearing ‘n viewing Norah Jones:

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Norah+Jones&search_type=

The Can-Am trainroom ‘n layouts have provided me with far more pleasure ‘n satisfaction than imagined when the idea was conceived. The ‘finished' basement was accomplished AFTER the construction ‘n completion of the Can-Am Railway (HO). The shelf system followed - then after brain-storming the ‘where will it go?' our small storage room was used for the ceiling suspended S-Capades. Now the subway system is about to emerge beneath Can-Am City. Yeah - it's fun. Even moreso when the guys come in for the Rendezvous. Again - I know you'd have a good time with it as I'm more than amenable to sharing the operating experience with anyone willing to take a turn. Thumbs Up [tup] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

The Berkshire IS indeed a finely tooled piece of work. And yes, hi-rail is a proper term for some toy trains (S-gauge comes to mind). A link for those who are curious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rail

You certainly hit the jackpot with having such a fine fellow in your life - your late father-in-law. Always a special ‘thing' when the relationship brought about by marriage turns into a friendship. A veritable gold mine, Mate - he helped produce that lovely bride you have AND had a "thing" for trains <real ‘n model> as well! Wow!! [wow] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

All that first loco <in your foto spate> requires is a gun turret! <geesh> Nasty looking Mo-Sheen! <grin>

All good shots - but especially liked the last one along with the GW loco ‘n tender. <sweet>

Many thanx for the visit, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 8 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:22 PM <3:22 PM Tuesday NZ time>: Greetings Allan - seems I've been shortchanging  you with my time conversion by an hour! Sorry 'bout that. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Thanx for squaring it away. Thumbs Up [tup][

Good link on the RR bridges on the north island. Yeah!! [yeah]

Someone should compile a listing of the military slang, references 'n abbreviations then put it between a couple of hard covers 'n sell it! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I'd love to know the origins for many of those sayings - although many are obvious to those who've "been in." Thumbs Up [tup]

Mention of the Ritz theatre brings back many, many good thoughts. The largest of our 3 movie houses in the area I grew up in was the Ritz. They used to show double features 'n on Sundays had vaudville acts between flicks. Saturday mornings were for kids as they would feature "shoot 'em ups" with a "serial" thrown in along with a couple of cartoons. Great times. As a matter of fact our high school graduation was held there . . . I worked as an usher at that place for 50 cents an hour 'n also spent many happy hours in the balcony. <uh oh> Yeah, some good thoughts . . .

Enjoyed eavesdropping your fine, inclusive Post! Many thanx for the visit, chat 'n ROUND of Tui! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Page 8 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:44 PM: Another visit from our Manager - had both ends of the day covered . . . thanx! Thumbs Up [tup]

One of our UTBs was a fan of the B&O, 'n I'm not referring to the data-dumper. But alas, he figured it was time to abandon ship 'n never returned. Kinda like poor Charlie on the MTA <Kingston Trio, circa 1950s>. Always can find lots of good stuff for that fallen flag. Thumbs Up [tup]

Moving from Colorado Springs to Vancouver Island <geesh> - how sad. <grin>

Another fine offering from our Resident Ontario Connection! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tuesday - April 8th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 8 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2:40 AM: Good Gawd Gertie - what in the world are you doing at the 'puter so late, late, late <early, early, early>!! Was beginning to wonder when we'd be visited by our Resident NOCTURNAL Desert RETIRED Swede - but there you were. Thumbs Up [tup] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Covered lots of ground with your fine, inclusive offering - liked the X2000 shot at Youngstown too! Thumbs Up [tup]

I'll do my best <cough> not to <hack> cough <hack> at the <wheeze> Rendezvous! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

That "bit" from Bergie says a lot - doesn't necessarily only refer to one episode - there's good info in it for everyone who Posts fotos, etc.

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 2:40 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, it's time for a ham sandwich. Yeah, the usual one. On rye, please. Keith's and a round for the house! 

Busy day today. Tried to make it earlier, but to no avail. I am just glad Leon kept the place open for me.

Rob –  I guess I never paid any attention to the shape of the cab on the Alco Century models.Wink [;)]

The book, Steel Rails to Victory, is very interesting in my opinion. Bought it many years ago.

Nice photos of the two Shays!Thumbs Up [tup] One with a female engineer!Yeah!! [yeah] Did you congratulate her to her achievment? If not you better.Wink [;)]

Tom –  Thanks for Bergie’s post, but as I mentioned before, the problem was with Apple’s server.

Yes, you are right, when the mrs. is away you really notice how many things she takes care of every day.Smile [:)]

Remember: No coughing during the Rendezvous!Wink [;)]

Jesse James and Mr. Baseball, two  good movies for this week! Plus the three fathers... Stooges! A great evening at the Emporium to look forward to! Thumbs Up [tup]

Royal Blue, a long gone memory! I noticed on the menu that the passengers were supposed to write down their order on check as the waiters were not allowed to accept verbal orders!! Kind of strange procedure.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Nick –  It seems like Missisnick is using the same method to count her age as I do counting my age. My birth certificate says I am 65 but when asked I say I am 27++. Wink [;)]

Interesting info on those little diddy wagons!Thumbs Up [tup] Must have been quite a bit of slack in a train with those cars/wagons!

My steaks? Hmm, I guess somewhere between medium rare and medium, depending on in what mood I am. Onion rings and mushrooms sounds very good. I’ll skip the grilled toms though. Toms don’t agree with my stomach. Sigh [sigh]

No, the soil is actually very good for most kinds of crops in the old country.Smile [:)]

Interesting photos.Thumbs Up [tup] The first one, the Bagnall “conversion” seems to have the same system as an electric trolley bus. I’ve never seen that before.

Alan trying to get out of  shot, is that the same Alan providing us with photos from different places in Europe?Question [?]

CM3 –  Thanks for the info on the Genesis locos!Thumbs Up [tup] Maybe the blowers are sucking/blowing in snow into the traction motors causing shorts and ground faults. No fun at all when it happens.

Pete –  No, I did not see any animals driving up to the top of Pike’s Peak. Did you take the train up to the top? Question [?]

I wouldn’t mind spending some days traveling at 4 mph in those canals.Wow!! [wow] Must be very relaxing. I’ll love to see the other photos you have.

The accident at Getå was caused by the embankment, sliding down into the Baltic Sea.

It’s a new line to a paper mill that is shown in that picture. It was new in 1976.Smile [:)] 

The signal in the last photo is an advance signal, showing what aspect the next signal is showing.

Thanks for the photos of 92212!Thumbs Up [tup] Severn Valley Railway, is that a museum railway? I noticed that the number 92212 on the front of the locomotive looks kind of German. Same design (almost).

Allan –  Thanks for the link to the site with bridge info and pics!Thumbs Up [tup] A number of high bridges to travel across! Too bad one can’t enjoy the view from the highest one.


Youngstown, OH

 

 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, April 7, 2008 10:44 PM

Good evening Leon,I think a Keith's to wind down the evening with if you don't mind.

Tom-Hey loved the continuing B&O stuff,and hey no JO comments eitherWhistling [:-^] Great pictrue of the EA's as well, not the prettiest of early passenger engines but they spawned the most memerable line of passeneger units from the classic age Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete-A husbands work is never done eh Question [?] my day off on Wednesday was going to be the clean up the back yard day but unfortunatly the weathesr calling for lots of rain oh wellBig Smile [:D]Those preserved shays at Cass are kept in fine condition. I'd wager sereral pints that they never came close to that clean when they were in service.

My sister will miss the scenery when they move back in may,but they all miss home and are happy that they are comming back to Canada. Since they are going to be on Vancouver Island they still are going to have lots of nice views. Ocean and  MTNs.

 I imagine that all those tree huggers must have an electric car by nowWhistling [:-^] and they likely all have wind powered ,solar heated houses tooWhistling [:-^]

Nick-Fine batch 'o' photo's. Sounds like you were luckey in that you had a father-in-law that was just a  wonderfull person and a train buff to boot. I'm also that luckey and we get to work together at the museum fairly often as well.I'll keep an eye out for the my space or info for the gig.

Allan-Good to see you in again.I'm guessing the CF's have changed our artillery crews protection by now as well. anytime you see our guys doing their thing now they generally have ear protection,and helmets with communication devices on them now. I now that our SAR tech friend has told us that the guys that rescue jump now don't have near the same level of hearing problems since they switched to the newer quieter Comorant helicopters.

As I've said to some of the other guys here it's amazing how many miles of electric trackage have disappeared from the landscape.Sad [:(]

Rob

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Posted by Gunneral on Monday, April 7, 2008 10:22 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Leon, set up the usual round of Tui`s for the guys` please!Yeah!! [yeah]

Nick. Belated Happy B-Day [bday] to missisnck.Smile [:)] Your band Amp makes my Home Theatre Amp at 500wrms look like a tiddler, nice shot of the band, what particular riff were you playing at the time?Wink [;)] Enjoyed your colourful set of pics, the Devon Bell observation coach looks brand new.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. Found a page on the web with some info and pics on the rail bridges` in the North Island, it`s at;

            http://trains.wellington.net.nz/bridges.html

Those were some great cab shots of the tracks` in the old country and a nice shot of the Class F 4-6-2 steam loco that was in that accident in earlier years. The book you are providing for the next book relay sounds really interesting.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob. We were`nt allowed to were ear protectors BITD because of verbal fire orders`, since the Falklands war they have changed the system because of all the claims for hearing loss they had to pay out on!  Nice  Classic Juice #3 episode on the lost electrics of SW Ontario, and a couple of nice Cass Scenic RR shots.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. Hooray, the Toon have won YET AGAIN no less, beating Reading 3-0, they are now on a winning streak, I HOPE!Wink [;)] Some very nice pics of the Pikes Peak Rly, the beautiful LMS canal boat was a cracker, and the Camel Back loco as well.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike. It was nice to see you in again over at the other thread.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Was in with some interesting comments.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom. The rest of the Brit army used to call us artillerymen "Long Range Snipers" or "Miles behind the Lines" for some reason?Confused [%-)] Nice Fallen Flags write up on the B&O Stratodome trains with all the Heralds, and the BITD Royal Blue train with all the pics and Heralds.Approve [^] Nice selection of flicks for the weekend, the Jesse James flick takes me back to BITD Saturday afternoon kids flick shows, our local movie house, called the Ritz, was nicknamed the Ranch because of all the westerns they showed at the time!Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya, Allan

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Monday, April 7, 2008 6:16 PM

What Ho chaps !!-I trust we have all had a satisfactory start to the week ??

The snow here has vanished as quickly as it arrived,although the weather continues to be as cold as charity-spring in Wales-gotta love it Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

So-drinks for the boys please Leon,take one for yourself mate and I`ll have a Starop with a large rum to keep away the chill-better take a handfull of change for Herr Wurlitzer-something mellow tonight I think-how about Norah Jones ? -If you`ve never listened to her,I warmly recommend you do Approve [^]

Right-to business....

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-Many thanks from herself for the birthday wishes,the day was acclaimed to be a great success........Love that K.C.S header shot,very classy Thumbs Up [tup]-   Glad to hear work proceeds on the subway-looking forward to seeing the results,speaking of pix-enjoyed that selection from the trainroom last week-that Berkshire looks like a wonderful bit of kit-unbelievably fine flanges on those wheels-had always assumed it was a hi-rail (is that the term ?) kind of thing-evidently not....especially enjoyed the view of the trainroom as a whole-you have a little empire there that a man can take a degree of quiet pride in Approve [^]

Todays B+O piece was a nice one-that `Royal Blue` steamer is/was a thing of beauty-good call !!

CM3-Glad the `Shay` passed muster for another season Thumbs Up [tup] will check out the Headhunters when time allows-believe me-our drummer is best left invisible Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

ROB-Nice pix there mate-what a brutal bit of kit-one doesn`t realise the sheer size of the thing`til you see it like that--Not sure,but I think the gig can be found at the Castle cafe/Cellar bar ,Cardigan site-if it`s not some sort of myspace thingy-will find out & get back to you....

PETE-Thanks also for B/Day wishes Thumbs Up [tup]--Mention of barges calls to mind todays pop trivia item-Ronnie Wood is from a long line of bargee`s working out of Paddington basin,glad we got the A&P loco pinned down Big Smile [:D]-and good to hear the S.V.R is back in business-a line I have yet to travel sadly  Sad [:(]

O.K-how about some pix to kick-start the week............

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Here we have the Bagnall "conversion" to follow up PETE`s pic from last week...

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Here is an immaculate `Lydham Manor` at Paignton last summer

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Here is the observation car at Kingswear-Alan trying & failing to get out of shot.....

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Aberystwith now-and here we have a large chunk of `Owain Glendywr` awaiting some major work ...!

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Aber again-across the platform from the steam train we have this mobile bill board......

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`Prince of Wales`& a prince among men-my late father in law admires the view at Devils Bridge,just prior to returning to Aber

Right-thats me done-an early night I think-see you all soon,take care

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:49 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Holden's please RUTHThumbs Up [tup]

TOM Many thanks for the B&O Fallen Flag,the drumheads and The Royal BlueThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. I too remember reading about the Strata-dome and the floodlights. I wonder if any one took some cine film in the car of the floodlights in actionQuestion [?], perhaps it might turn up on U-Tube one day.Approve [^]. The paint scheme on the cars on the Royal Blue really match with the Streamliner in that photoWow!! [wow]Bow [bow], trully a classic trainApprove [^].Looking at the 1950 menu has made me hungryYeah!! [yeah]. I would love to try the Bread Custard PuddingApprove [^], but I do not know what 'Sanka and Postum' areDunce [D)].  

The main one who took advantage of this nice weekend weather wise was the brideSigh [sigh], getting me to work in the yard, mainly moving rocks and other heavy thingsShock [:O] to get the house looking better after that basement work a while back, still it was good for the soul if not for the backBig Smile [:D].

Yes I suppose with the interstates and the affordable air travel the railroads did not really stand much of a chance with long distance passenger travel in the U.S.Sad [:(]

Seeing those photos of Pike's Peak reminded me it was after the trip to the summit that the camera that I landed on in Denver gave up workingSigh [sigh].

I had forgotten about the heat in New OrleansShock [:O] perhaps a wintertime visit would be best.Thumbs Up [tup]

Two good films on at the Emporium this weekApprove [^] We were hoping to see The Assassination of Jesse James when it was on at the cinemas but missed itSigh [sigh]. Mr. Baseball sounds a film I would enjoy as wellYeah!! [yeah] and of course the Stooges.Big Smile [:D] 

ERIC Many thanks for the info on the DL&W CamelbackThumbs Up [tup]. I though it could have been the Museum of Transportation at St Louis, has I had been there on an earlier visit, but I did not recognize the building in the background.Confused [%-)]

If I recall it was not too cold the day we traveled up to Pike's PeakApprove [^]. Did you see any sort of gopher size animals on the way up there seemed to be a quite a few about near the railway on the day we were there.Question [?]

Glad you enjoyed the canal barge photosThumbs Up [tup], I have a few more if you would like to see them.Yeah!! [yeah]. Living as I did backing on to the Oxford Canal a canal vacation seemed very popular with North American visitors a few years back, as you say it is a soothing vacation traveling along at 4MPH and visiting the local canal side pubs after mooring up for the night.Approve [^]

Many thanks for the great photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Did they find out what caused the accident at GetaQuestion [?].In the second from last photo on the left is that a branch line that as been removed or is it a new line waiting to be connected to the main line, do you knowQuestion [?]. That is an interesting signal in the last photo.

ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. When I was young those barges were very numerous passing the back of the house pulling another un-powered barge (called a ‘Butty') along the Oxford canal carrying coal for LondonThumbs Up [tup]. Today there is probably as many barges but they are all used as pleasure boats although some are lived in all year round by folks. Some still have the original slow speed diesel engines with their unmistakable slow BOP BOP BOP sound.Approve [^]

It must be wonderful to be able to see that marvelous scenery around Pike's Peak from one's window.Yeah!! [yeah]

Many thanks for the photos of the Cass locomotiveThumbs Up [tup]; the locomotive especially the cylinder area is very cleanApprove [^]

I too find it hard how so many people object to a rail line but don't seem to mind a new roadThumbs Down [tdn]. I wonder how many of those militant ‘Tree Huggers' refuse to use electricity or ride in a motor vehicle because of their principles, not many I bet.

NICKHappy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday] To Missisnick.Thumbs Up [tup]

Glad you enjoyed the photosThumbs Up [tup]. It seems a bit strange now,but there is quite a bit of nostalgia about the time when everything was in BR blue, but I agree it never suited those V of R locomotivesThumbs Down [tdn]. With those locomotives it is very often forgotten the BR owned and ran steam locomotive after the standard gauge steam finished on BR in 1968.

Just yesterday I saw photo in a steam railway magazine of the site of Northwich shed where the photo of the class 25 and 40 were taken, today it is a housing estate.Sad [:(]

YesThumbs Up [tup] I have had another look at the Aveling & Porter photo and zoomed in and it is The Blue Circle now you have said the name, I can make the Circle part out, it was great to see her working.Approve [^]

As you say there was a great deal of skill in working a loose coupled goods train Bow [bow]

CM3 Yes the camelback looks in great conditionApprove [^]. Thanks for the info on the allocation of power for a train depending on load and the grades the train will faceThumbs Up [tup]. In steam days, on BR, each steam locomotive class had a load limit for each route they regularly worked on and if it was over this, the driver could demand a pilot locomotive if one was not already allocated. Did the major stations here have a standby locomotive in steam days in case the locomotive on a train was struggling, as was the practice on BRQuestion [?].

Sigh [sigh]The ever-elusive ground fault problem, I remember them well.Banged Head [banghead].

 I read the Severn Valley Railway has re-opened its whole length againThumbs Up [tup] after the disasterous floods of last JuneSad [:(]. A couple of photos on the SVR Thumbs Up [tup].

  

BR Standard 9F class 2-10-0 No. 92212 ready to depart from Kidderminster Town station for a trip along the Severn Valley.

92212 running round its train, at the other end of the SVR, at Bridgnorth. When new No.92212 was new she was allocated to Banbury shed, where, no doubt, she would have worked the iron ore trains from the local quarries to the South Wales steelworks. 

Well RUTH a round pleaseThumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:10 PM

G'day Gents!

Thanx to CM3 Shane 'n Rob we managed to survive this Monday morning . . . now, to see what the PM brings. Thumbs Up [tup]

Here's something to keep the B&O interest level "up" . . . .

 

Now Arriving on Track #1

Back in the Day - Number Seventeen

Baltimore & Ohio's Royal Blue

 

 

 

 

The Royal Blue was the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad (B&O)'s flagship passenger train between New York City and Washington, D.C. in the United States, beginning in 1890. The Baltimore-based B&O also used its name between 1890 and 1917 for its improved passenger service between New York and Washington launched in the 1890s, collectively dubbed the Royal Blue Line. Using variants such as the Royal Limited and Royal Special for individual Royal Blue trains, the B&O operated the service in partnership with the Reading Railroad and the Central Railroad of New Jersey. Principal intermediate cities served were Philadelphia, Wilmington, and Baltimore. Later, as Europe reeled from the carnage of World War I and connotations of European royalty fell into disfavor, the B&O discreetly omitted the sobriquet Royal Blue Line from its New York passenger service and the Royal Blue disappeared from B&O timetables. Beginning in 1917, former Royal Blue Line trains were renamed: the Royal Limited (inaugurated on May 15, 1898), for example, became the National Limited. During the Depression, the B&O hearkened back to the halcyon pre-World War I era when it launched a re-christened Royal Blue train between New York and Washington in 1935. The B&O finally discontinued all passenger service north of Baltimore on April 26, 1958, and the Royal Blue faded into history. <from: Wikipedia.com>

 

B&O Royal Blue on the B&O Thomas Viaduct, south of Baltimore, Maryland, in a posed 1937 foto. <Public Domain>

 

 

Royal Blue dining car menu - 1950 <Public Domain>

 

 

B&O Royal Blue locomotives, EA-EB #51 in 1937. <Foto credit: © Bruce C. Greenberg, 1990>

 

 

B&O Royal Blue final run - 1958 from Jersey City. <Foto credit: Don Wood/Wikipedia.com>

 

 

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, April 7, 2008 11:10 AM

Morning Ruth, a large thermos of the BK blast and a number three if you don't mind.As always keep the change for your "trip" jarWhistling [:-^] Oh Boris amke sure the critters are fed,you may wish to take some sandpaer to the trays you use for Artie,Awk and Frostbite though,you guys did sucha good shinning job last night that I'm affraid they might attack their reflections <uh oh >Since you were a good cyclops ( no breakage over the weekend ) you can have a large jar of PPFApprove [^]

Tom-Two good movie choices Thumbs Up [tup] Mr Baseball is espeacially funny and a good choice given the time of year Thumbs Up [tup]My birds are off to a decent start as well , but again it's far to early for anyone to be alarmed.Haven't got the email out yet twas a busy worked all weekend type of weekend Sigh [sigh]

I see we are cut of the same cloth re carbon footprints,what's that you say  about screw em all but sixWhistling [:-^]Big Smile [:D]Sounds like you got an "in" to get that good of seats for the ballgameWhistling [:-^]

Nick-I shall have to look into the next webcast can you give the link again Question [?] Continuing on with various brian droppings,most modern HO traction equipment will handle 18" radius curevs and  most can be tweeked for tighter say 15's so have at it sir Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3-A fine Hi good morning to you as well. Cool [8D]As I said to Tom much to early in the season to get to much alarm about the season,all things being equal the standings should end up pretty much the same this year as last.

Well folks I'm off to  work again,I shall return again this evening with more "thots"

A couple shots in parting from Cass scenic,looks like someone wormed their way into the cab as well.

Rob

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