G'day Gents!
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #4
St. Louis-San Francisco Railway (SLSF)
<A form of this was initially Posted on 15 Sep 2005, Page 109 of the original Thread>
<source: Classic American Railroads>
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Headquarters: St. Louis, MO
Route mileage in 1950: 5,100
Locomotives in 1963 (all diesel-electric):
Freight: 286
Passenger: 23
Switchers: 102
Principal routes in 1950:
St. Louis-Quanah, TX
Kansas City-Birmingham, AL via Ft. Scott, KS
St. Louis-Memphis
Amory, MS-Pensacola, FL
Monee, MO-Paris, TX
Sapulpa (Tulsa) OK-Dallas/Ft. Worth
Fort Scott-Afton, OK
Kansas City-Springfield, MO via Clinton, MO
Monett-Ellsworth, KS
Tulsa-Avard, OK
Passenger trains of note:
Black Gold (Tulsa-Fort Worth)
Firefly (Kansas City-Oklahoma City)
Kansas City-Florida Special (Kansas City-Jacksonville)
Memphian (St. Louis-Memphis)
Meteor (St. Louis-Oklahoma City & Fort Smith, AR)
Oklahoman (1st iteration) (Kansas City-Tulsa)
Oklahoman (2nd iteration, 1965-67) (St. Louis-Oklahoma City)
Southland (Kansas City & St. Louis-Atlanta & Pensacola)
Texas Special (St. Louis-San Antonio & Forth Worth)
Will Rogers (St. Louis-Oklahoma City & Wichita, KS)
Note:
Southern Railway handled trains east of Birmingham.
MKT (Katy) handled the Texas Special between Vinita, OK and Texas destinations.
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foto from internet sources - credit: undetermined
Enjoy!
Tom
<VIA Rail's Glacier Park car at Sioux Lookout - personal foto>
Friday's Grin
Brain Cramps
"We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
. . . former CEO of Chyrsler Corporation
The end of the work week <for many> has arrived ‘n time to energize with a <light> or <traditional> breakfast along with a mugga Joe ‘n a pastry or three from The Mentor Village Bakery case!
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Keeping track!
216 fotos from my 2008 Canada Rail Odyssey . . . the end!
154 fotos from Rendezvous III
. . . more to follow!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Thursday - June 12th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 39 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:48 PM <2:48 AM Friday GMT>: Back once more with a nite-cap! <clink>
Rob's gal really wasn't overly large <weight challenged, perhaps - chunky is better!> Not someone too many of us would want to be seen in daylite ‘n in public with! <yikes> Anyway, love the Uncle Fester theory! <grin> Add: And they make their own clothes ‘n have fine personalities!
All kinds of good chat ‘n cheer along with a fine shot of an electric loco! "It" never ends with the S.O.B. railway!
Continuing set of ROUNDS appreciated - although the drinks have been on the house for the 12th! Play well ‘n stay safe!
Page 39 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:30 AM: Our Resident Ontario Connection has resumed a normal pace ‘round here - good to have you with us!
Lars has dropped an Email in my direction every now ‘n then - also has called. Things are no different in his life. The man is keeping on keeping on . . . he always mentions "Our" Place ‘n goes without saying that he's very saddened by not being amongst the crew as a regular. Don't know why I'm thinking of this - but BK (Bud Karr) is now fully employed in Europe! Yeah, he signed on with an outfit that either is the controlling interest in the one he retired from or vice versa. Operates out of Germany with lots of travel throughout northern Europe. He sent an Email to Lars ‘n Moi about the time of my Canadian Rail Odyssey. Completely slipped my mind . . . Busy month, May.
Yes, yes - YOUR gal would definitely compliment the H&H "beauties" - probably a cousin, dontchathink
Actually it was quite humorous when Wolfman called - trying to answer a fone with the TV remote <My bride swears she was only carrying it ‘n not meaning to confuse it with the fone - yeah, right!>, Juneau howling at the door bell, music blaring away - TV on in the family room - all kinds of pandemonium, fer sure, fer sure. One more call wouldn't have hurt! <grin>
Progress on the CACSS is slow, but steady. Cleaning up those platforms was almost like work! <geesh> Didn't realize how sloppy I was in making ‘em - far too much adhesive. But they look much better-er now! Looking for some modern posters for the platform wall ‘n also "things" to place here ‘n there <trash bins, newspaper mosheens, vending mosheens ‘n such>. Big challenge ahead with the signal lights . . . should be fun, for I enjoy that kinda thing.
Neither of my cleaning cars are powered - but the prices are indeed outta sight. The costs associated with the "things" that make up our hobby has just gotten ridiculous over the years. But guess what There is a market, so ‘nuf said, eh
Nice spread of fotos - all with the livery of the Ontario Southland being super-fine!
Email acknowledgment received - thanx!
Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n good cheer!
Friday - June 13th:
Page 39 - Eric <Eric<EricX2000> at 1:54 AM <11:54 PM Thursday Sandbox time>: "In" with a near-mid-nite greeting for the boyz at the bar!
Now wait a minute! You can't have it both ways . . . you say "no snow!" Then you say "maybe a few flakes at Christmas time." <geesh>
Yeah, I heard a similar report regarding what the price of oil per barrel should be. I think the origin of all of that is from the Saudis. Even $70 per barrel is a rip off considering the very little it costs to extract the stuff from beneath the surface. Something like $12 per barrel. Nope, we're not doing what we should to put a stop to the madness . . .
I wish I had taken photos of all the signs at the MoT . . . but now that I'm a member of the place, I'll be sure to do so on my return visits. They really help with the identification factor, eh Youbetcha!
Weren't those SLSTA shots taken in "forbidden territory" at the MoT Hmmmmmm. Anyway, good ones ‘n I'll be sure to find where they are on my next visit!
Really don't expect you to know the identification of "that" box car - it's one that Fergie customized for me - has his "MESS" herald - there are two of ‘em coupled together on that siding. <grin>
Terrific satellite shots of the gorge!
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n continuing support from the desert! <grin>
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!
Leon, you bet, I'll have Rumpsteak Café de Paris tonight. Free!! A cold Keith's!
Some good stuff to read, learn, and look at today! First of all,Happy 38th Monthversary!!!Tom – Interesting facts on the Northern Pacific, a railroad I don’t know enough about. That book cover looks very interesting, nice photo! Western Pacific is (was) also an interesting road that I know a little bit more about. I like the D&RGW timetable cover showing a train at Royal Gorge.
Royal Gorge from a different angle. The roadname of the boxcar? Hmm, I guess CP would be way too easy and the same about Can-Am Railways. Hmm, no, I have to think about it. Sandman is fine. I don’t know if I am made for the deserts though. No, I would say I am made for the forests! Forests with mild weather, no snow! Maybe a few snow flakes at Christmas time, but not more. One gallon is 3.7854 liters. I heard on TV tonight that somewhere between $60-$70 per barrel of oil is because the demand and supply factor. The rest, the main part, is because of speculation. A nice collection of photos from the Museum of Transportation! Smart to show the sign for each locomotive with the info. I did take some photos of the signs, but only for myself, to have the info available. CM3 – The heat will return to your part of the world at the same time it returns here, 111˚ for the weekend. Fast as hm hm? I read about the 2700’s before and they were clearly very good locomotives, just as you mentioned! Acela, I have to get in touch with some Amtrak people at so I’ll get my promised test ride with Acela. Pete – Nice photos from Scotland! Very open landscape. I can see a big rig (w/flatbed) in the lower photo. Looks very much like a Scania. Thank you to Alan!I liked that site with the flying DC-3’s. There is one in Sweden, “Daisy”. I have a friend in the old country that has been flying in Daisy many times. Thanks for the photos from BR’s “blue” days! Seems like the locomotives at that time still were running without any headlights.Rob – Thanks for the info on the FA1 and the original GP7 built in London. Too bad it was destroyed in that accident. I hope the crew made it out in time. FA1 without the prime mover should be pretty light! Very nice photos of the diesels! I love the top photo of the local crossing the river! Very nice!Nick – I ike your layout! A lot of possibilities to run trains different ways! Interesting background and history! A nice picture of your Swiss loco! A very classic locomotive! Okay, let’s go for the 16000 for the French loco! St. Louis Steam Train Association (SLSTA) support cars.
Eric
Well good evening folks seems the party is still swinging ( yeah baby yeah ) So with out further adieu there Leon lets have another round of teh best for all and sundry ( this one's on me bossman as your pocket book has been abused enough today)
Tom-Ah yes the joys of buy outs of companies everyone hlds dear. Molson's and Labatt's are now both foreignly owned I imagine that Labatt's and the company woeing the folks in your neck of the woods are one in the same. Progress mate,for better or worse Lets raise a toast to what was
Interesting thoughts on Lars and Ted , I couldn't aggree more,I'm just all the sadder for not having met the Larsman in person. here's hoping I can meet the rest of you lot at some point.
Oh and I wouldn't dream of standing in your way of our corridor honey,I wonder if she's still hanging onto the side of that train car ? I hear that H&H will happily have her along on the Zep flight with you guys,she should fit right in.
Those cleaning cars are interesting,that powered one has the kind of price that would scare off some hungry buzzards though Sounds like you've had a productive day,good thing I didn't try to call you today you might have ended up attached to the subway ROW.
Pete-Wonderfull selection of locomotives sir,a real top notch batch.I love the scenery along the row's. Those townhomes in the one shot makes one wonder which side of the tracks those people concider tehmselves on the right or the wrong.
Nick-Loved the more in deapth study of the SOB lines.It is a massive project kudo's for all the goods and bads you've had with it.Interesting thoughts by uncle fester,I can try to get him her number.
Yes that FA is a pretty thing even if it is for all purposes guttless,it is at least prserved and cared for.Good job on your ONR piant jobs as well,espeacially using teh CDS transfer sets. BTW if you want more order them sooner as opposed to later, the owners are retiring and will soon ( if they haven't already ) ended production of sets. Which is too bad because they did alot of exclusive Canadian sets not available elseware.
Lets see my bottemless stein needs a top up and I'm feeling a tad light headed from the MSG.I've noticed that the local alley cats don't seem as numerous as well,hmmm perhaps a job for inspector clueless.Lets see lets give you guys a few more shots.
A favourite shot of mine,two CP rail SW1200RS's pulling the local over the speed river in Preston Ontario.
Another Alco in blissfull retirement.Sadly also motorless The ex CP Empress of Agincourt and sole unit built of the RSD 17's. Seen outside it's home at the Elgin County Museum in St Thomas Ontario.
Another of the Ontario Southlands ex CP RS18u's number 183 also scene visiting the Elgin County Museum.
Lets see another classic MLW a CP S3 in Toronto ( another find from the flea market )
enjoy
Rob
Lordy Lordy-are we all still here ?-splendid !!-Leon,make with the drinks please dear boy-same again all round-
ROB-Welcome back ,pull up a barmaid and relax-glad you enjoyed the pix (and survived apocalyptic weather ) -now then-Photos with pictures -theres a concept I can warm to-and fine pix they are too-like others I rather like the (now dummy ) F.A 1-great livery
ERIC-A fine pix-mix from you Sir !-you have the right of it R.E the Swiss engine I suspect-I hit the wrong key......
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Here she is in profile..A lovely little engine and a welcome addition to the roster
I take your point R.E the Decapod-shrink fit tyres are a far better bet..........good call
Not sure about the S.N.C.F loco-imagine 16000 is the way to go..
TOM-Not only standing the nights round but an excellent selection of classic material-A couple of those F-units look suprisingly like the O.N.R units-I guess Green & Yellow work well together ..........A grand selection of museum pix as well-good choice there mate
ALLAN-Have great hopes for the weekend-the Irish pack havn`t been the same since Keith Wood took off the green jersey-the England pack might well win every ball,but we need a better 9-10 combination before we are going to get over the try line-still-lets wait and see.................
SHANE-Was indeed a fine time with the family-doesn`t often happen-and all the better when it does !!-unfortunately the missing rail was taken from the station throat-(-Boris-I want a word with you....) happily the track gang were up to the challenge.......Closest I can get at first look on Sir Theodore is between 1920 & 1933-will close it down A.S.A.P-thought for the day-does PETE`s batbag contain the mask & cloak (where is Alfred the butler.....)
PETE-Some delightful shots from the highlands (thanks Alan ) )-The Streak looks just right-all she needs is some Gresley teak stock behind -The blue diesels also looking well-by a twist of fate I have some pix of `Flying Scotsman` from the same playing field..in 60103 mode with the elephant ear deflectors-doesn`t look right to me but hey-takes all sorts...
ROB & TOM-You obviously met an interesting young lady on your travels-Our drummer,Uncle Fester, has a theory about fat girls:- 1-they tend to be grateful, 2-they have unmatched sound absorbing qualities in recording studios, 3-they are extremely comfortable to sleep on at festivals ......Cant fault that really........-This is the point where I should be preparing a menu,however as I am as Pi**ed as the rest of you I think we should perhaps put in a call to the Ho-Li-*** Chinese takeaway and try their $100 party meal package-what say you all ?? -gotta be worth a try,and I fancy some MSG with added hot sesame oil ..................
O.K chaps-show tomorrow so unlikely to make any useful contribution-please excuse any ramblings I do make-take care
G'day Gents,
Well since it IS the celbration of our 38th month of existence AND I'm up 'n about <aboot for Rob> the decks - thought I'd drop off this round of acknowledgments . . .
Page 39 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 10:18 AM: Appreciate your taking the time from what appears to be a rather busy work-week to swing by the Tavern by the Tracks with a fine < I3 > Post!
I recall seeing a "blurb" about the replacement RR bridge at New London - guess there's just no pleasing ‘em all, eh Wonder if there's a rerouting scheme, as in "back in the day" - but that's just conjecture - if they're shutting down the trains, the answer is evident.
Do appreciate your visit, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 39 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:46 PM: All's "locked in" for our end of the month get together here - the TrainWreck Saloon ‘n a roundtrip to KCity aboard the Mules! Looking forward to it . . . Maybe if the temps cooperate, we can swing by the MoT for an hour or more . . . now that we're members, eh
That was quite an < I3 > Post you put together - more info in that one than most - maybe even worth splitting into two separate submissions! Nice work . . .
All kinds of fotos to enjoy - of course appreciated the "cool" ones! Thank your Mate, Alan for me, wudja I liked that Western Legionnaire of yours - nice!
Sorry I couldn't stay on the fone with ya this afternoon - but I was smack-dab in the middle of a project with the Can-Am City Subway System <CACSS> - using adhesive to put down the final segments of track at the station. Didn't want it to set up before I got it aligned properly. <phew>
All has been wired in for my device that will stop ‘n start the trains at fixed intervals. So when the bride came down to tell me you were on the fone - she had the TV remote in her hand instead of the cordless fone! Also Juneau began barking, as the door bell was ringing AND I had the stereo blasting away down in the trainroom with some Johnny Cash tunes, amongst others. So it was just one of those things . . . anyway, that's the story ‘n I'm sticking to it! <grin>
Spent a couple of hours cleaning the subway station platforms - the grout needed to be picked clean of excess adhesive along with other areas of the tile. Also added a few more people to the platforms. Took a bit of time doing that kinda work - tedious I suppose, but for some strange reason, no problem-o for Moi!
Once I get the subway station to my liking - then I'll figure out how to build ‘n install the 3rd rail system. It will simply be "eye candy" ‘n not operational. But a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do to ensure that the Sandman remains pleased! <grin> After that, then I'll concentrate on the operating signal lights . . .
Email received - thanx!
Good eavesdropping < I3 > Post from our Bar Chandler!
Page 39- Rob <trolleyboy> at 5:05 PM: Oh I just couldn't - I mustn't - I wouldn't - take YOUR friend away from YOU! She had her beady little eyes on YOU, Mate - she preferred the younger set - ‘n that hardly represents me. So, while I'm flattered that you think she's MINE - nope, ALL YOURS - every ounce <ton> of her! <grin> I figure since she's a "corridor gal" that you've worked out some "arrangement" for those "little secret rendezvous" kinda things that make those dippy magazine covers ‘n the like! <grin>
As sad as some displays are at the MoT, I've come to the realization that if not for places like that <'n your trolley-haven> we wouldn't have the pleasure of seeing the MoSheens from "back in the day." As you know far better-er than I, volunteers ‘n money make all the difference!
Thanx for swinging by ‘n appreciate the inclusiveness of your comments!
Page 39 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 5:48 PM <11:48 PM GMT>: Leave it to our Mighty Man to come up with such a fine toast to "Our" Place ‘n all who make this place "go"! Cheers, Mate - appreciate your kind words!
The big-buzz in these parts is the not-so-friendly takeover attempt by InBev, a Belgian brewing behemoth run by two Brazilians, who want to control St. Louis' Anheuser-Busch Companies world-wide. The "natives are restless" here ‘n not very happy about "their brewery" going foreign. This chapter is hardly a done-deal - a fight is going to take occur. Have to admit that St. Louis without the Busch family owning the company just would be hard to take. They are "into" every aspect of community life - donating this ‘n that - sponsoring all kinds of good things, just plain good citizens. It would be a shame.
CHANGE is the word, Mate - who wudda thunk that the Pennsylvania Railroad would be no more? Or how about Trans World Airways <later Airlines> down the tubes? Or the trans-Altantic ocean liners being nothing but memories? Or the U.S. no longer being the world's leader in auto production? Or airlines CHARGING for pillows, meals, snacks, baggage ‘n maybe even using the toilets? Or petrol nearing five bucks a gallon in the U.S.? Yeah, CHANGE just grabs one by those proverbial short hairs! <ouch>
Mention of Lars ‘n Ted brings to mind their similarities along with differences. One was a die-hard ‘n helped keep this place afloat during the "dire times" when we lost Doug for keeps ‘n Rob for a long time. He had no choice in the matter to leave us. The other pretty much gave up on us in favor of other things to do - never stopping by again. The similarities though is that they were good guys to have at the bar with an appreciation for what we do ‘n how we do ‘em! They both are missed, fer sure, fer sure.
Email received, thanx!
Aprpreciate the visit!
Page 39 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:27 PM <1:27 AM Friday GMT>: Back with the "Full Monte" on the S.O.B. Lines!
I suppose the enormity of your project totally escaped me, given that we've seen bits ‘n pieces over the years. Now that the track plans are out there - all I can offer is . A most ambitious undertaking, "warts" notwithstanding! Quite a lot of operating available for you ‘n an assistant, eh
Undoubtedly those of us who have put our creative genious to the test have had second thoughts on this ‘n that. I too have qualms over the track selection I made <discussed a few times in the past>. Now steel rails - that's a totally different issue ‘n I'm not sure regarding how one goes about cleaning ‘em - efficiently. When you have the time, why not do an advanced search on the Forums for steel rail cleaning ‘n see what you come up with There's all sorts of remedies for brass ‘n nickel silver - so maybe, just maybe, there's something out there to relieve you of the manual labor.
I've purchased one of those electronic gizmos that gets pushed ‘round the track by one of my switchers. It's called Lectrak Clean II by Miniatronics - a link:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/475-PEC21
Also use a CenterLine Products rail cleaner car, Model D30 that also requires a loco to pull it - a link:
http://www.centerline-products.com/rail_wheel.htm
Neither of these is an end-all, but used together, they seem to do the job whilst I do other things! Maybe will help ya out, Mate!
If your railway is to remain within your shed, what are the possibilities of making the structure weather-proof ‘n insulated A bit a time, perhaps, ‘n before you know it - done! A thought . . .
My problems with track involve things like power loss - so I've put in many jumpers ‘n feeders. Also, since I've gone with sectional track, the rail joiners have to be tighter than a tick - then I glued it down to the board. I suppose only an earthquake would loosen it up. <grin> But of course, maintenance on the wiring or other track problems becomes just that - a problem - a self-inflicted one at that. Time for a brew! <gulp - ahhhhhhh>
You hit the nail on the head with your assessment of the Can-Am layout - I enjoy it in "static" mode every bit as when I'm operating it. Plus, now that we've had two Rendezvous here - the appreciation for the different scenes, etc. along with the tie-in to the bar makes it that much more gratifying.
Model Railroading ‘n women - what more could a guy want Hmmmm - a faithful dog, never-ending supply of money, cold beer at the ready ‘n riding the rails. Hmmmm - and a Zep flight to down under land! <grin>
Many thanx for the 2nd visit! <Cheers> <clink>
O.K then-Leon,more of the same please-but this time on my ticket-TOM-please join me in a large cognac from the reserve supply -I am gonna pull rank here and devote this portion to a full response to the Guvnors comments R.E my layout-and layout philosophy generally-I realise that this should be a wednesday thing but given the lack of real-time interaction this will have to do...please indulge me chaps-I will get around to responses.....
First off,so we all know where we are,here is the complete S.O.B Lines /Somerset & Dorset track plan :-
I presume you can see how the lower plan fits on top of the upper one (does that make sense ??)
Right then TOM-First of all,many thanks for your kind words -One doesn`t set out to seek praise but it is welcome nonetheless....
Hope the Atlas `ware is of use-you can switch between `libraries` by clicking on `tools` at the top of the screen -took me a while to find that one .........
Ironically ,were I to start again from scratch ( and I gave this some considerable thought before embarking on the current re-wire job)- I would prolly go for something far simpler, When I first started this layout I wanted all the bells and whistles-unlike you guys,over here layouts tend to get built in small spaces -we dont have basements as a rule and the Brit modelling philosophy tends towards building one or two linked stations with an intensive service of trains rather than long runs of track with a few very long trains passing through-having read about & seen pix of these style layouts,and finally having a space of more than 9`x 6` to build in,I naturally went completely mad with power and went for the lot-double track,continuous run,point to point,multiple company operation-all well and good in an insulated basement with a dedicated crew but a big chunk of pizza to chew for a lone operater with a non-damp-proofed shed and-suprise- a small baby (how did that happen ??)-
To compound the problem-the design is flawed (thankyou hindsight )-far too much of the track is in tunnels-and much of it is steel rail-as opposed to nickel silver ,which given the exposure to the elements means that for every one day of running it requires three days of track burnishing-the recent rescue has required the use of power sanders to get useful contact on the rails-as opposed to the Can-Am,where you just have to flick a switch and off we all go.....
On a positive note-when it is all working,there is nothing to beat the buzz of watching the Pines Express gliding up the bank or the O.N.R newsprint F-units and boxcars easing down-or a quiet hour switching the industrial district whilst the Bournemouth-Weymouth locals circle the main ..........I guess it depends on what one wants from a layout-the Can-Am suits you -it provides a platform for the trains you know and love to run and be viewed,photographed and enjoyed against a variety of backgrounds and then set back into a delightful open staging area (Union Stn ) afterwards-you have achieved your goal-and with some style,let it be said ..My little empire has the potential to please me but much work is still required-although when I started I knew it was going to be a lifetime project so I shouldn`t be too disappointed that I didn`t get it right first time-for a start,the North American influence came in long after the line was established and has caused any number of revisions along the way...
Moving on,All the pix that have been shown have the `North American` buildings as a background-there is a complete set of `Brit` structures in a big box upstairs to complement the U.K stock-my next project -as a diversion from spitting out lumps of solder,is to do a `railfanning `tour of the line with all the bits in place-the proper S&D trains with the proper backgrounds-none of the `Swiss electric with Mack truck in background under Great Western signals nonsense-in the past mixed running was only ever as a courtesy to Alan-a Euro fan, or to provide pix for the bar krew...
Thank you BTW for kind words R.E the ONR stock-I spent a lot of time on the F-Units (brush painted and C.D.S decals)-the green one is close although missing the nose herald-the blue one less so,although it has the `shape` of the original-as noted before,roof details yet to do.....
Get yourself ready for the Draig Goch flight-you,me and a pair of sexually deviant middle-european twins aloft for twelve days-what could possibly go wrong..............
right gonna post this and start again
Well good evening and a happy 38th to one and all -many have come -some have strayed (myself for example) ,others are lost to the ether-some are greatly missed ( Lars & dear old Ted,bless him) some have kept the faith and helped to establish one of the longest running and (more importantly) varied & informative threads on the K/B site-Let us raise our bottomless draughts (I`d like to see this done on TV) and raise a toast to TOM for all the hours of work he puts into making this thing work-and to each other for making it worth his while doing it--Heres to ya big man-long may you prosper
Now then Leon-mention of bottomless draughts reminds me-the guvnors in the chair tonight,so I will have A Staropramen,a large rum and a snack platter whilst I get up to speed,plus another Starop to keep the first one company (lonlieness is a terrible thing.......)
Right-much to comment on again today-and thats before I get into the galley,so I am gonna post this and get my notes in order
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Good afternoon fellow barflies,another montheversary is upon us nice to see things keeping on keeping on as they say some places. Since the bigbossman's behind the bar I think I'll nab a bottemless stein of Keith's oh and her's a bunch o loose change for the coal scuttle , so long as plenty of Gordon Lightfoot emerges from the wurlitzer
Tom-Great info on the railroads of the almost as wild wild northwest enjoyed it.It was indeed caboose kissing weather earlier in the week but things are back to normal now.No comment on YOUR friend from Toronto , an no no amount of strings or wax could help that.. but you know she isn't a - - - - you know
Loved the pictures from the museum as well. Looks like alot of those could use a bit more paint on their exteriors.Nice mix of stuff though from the B&O "box" to the electric stuff.Responded to your email momnets ago That's the proper CN green the FA's painted in.Models and various real world repaints never quite seem to get the colour right.
Allan-I see we posted un top of each other last evening,good to see you pop round again.$1.35 CDN a litre all week so far down from the $1.37 of last week.Been enjoying the gifts in my inbox as well thanks
Shane-My bad I re St Johnsbury. Isn't the state bird out there the mosquito now You could hunt them for their meat in some parts of Ontario as well. I kinda figured you would like the old Alco switchers,I know that I can't get enough of them.I ahd heard that the Baldwin switchers were a much more reliable lot than their raod units,my understanding was that it was their electrics more than anything else that made them some what suspect.
Eric-Thanks for the Link to the roller bearing article it was an interesting read. That FA1 is motorless,just a cosmetically restored shell. It's old 244 coughed out it's crankshafts right before it was retired. It was earmarked for preservation though because of it's historic significance. So was the original GP7 that London built. It was to become a preserved unit when it was retired. TH&B #71. Unfrotunatly it was wrecked in the early 80's in a grade crossing accident in Fenwick Ontario with a tanker truck. Burnt down to the trucks unfortunatly,
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH and a round to celebrate the 38th month anniversary of Our Place, before I enjoy Tom's kind offer of beer for the day.
TOM Great to talk with you yesterday.
Yes we were lucky with the trip to Springfield on the Rendezvous. I wonder what closing the line will do to the passenger numbers on the Chicago- St Louis trains, when the service is restored after the big rise in passenger numbers they have had recently.
Many thanks for the great photos at the Kirkwood Museum of Transportation. The Joplin- Pittsberg # 2003 is an interesting locomotive; I don't think I have heard of a Propane-Electric before. It is good to read the details on the locomotives, B&O #50 is another locomotive with an interesting past working the Royal Blue and the Alton Railway. Doesn't Illinois Terminal #1575 look in great condition
Many thanks for the Heralds, Drumheads, Ads, Covers and stuff on the Northern Pacific, Western Pacific and Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroads. It is a pity the North Coast Limited does not run today. I see the D&RGWR built the WP I wonder why they did not run under the D&RGWR name. Great artwork on the Western Pacific color pictorial book cover and the ‘Mainline thorough the Rockies' poster.
Hopefully we will get a chance to see the layout if Amtrak can get us into KC on time.
Good words for Allan, looking forward to the NZ arrival on the Zeppelin.
Like me, I think you are missing the cooler weather, so a couple of photos from some of Alan's photos have just arrived.
Ex LMS class 5 No 45407 heads for snow capped mountains and Inverness Scotland on the North Britain steam tour April 15th 2008.
NICK That sounds like a great pub with a good view, what beers did they have.
Thanks for the info on the V of R locos.
Many thanks for your model railway photos. Great variation from the Ontario Northland, French and Swiss locomotives and stock to those great private owner 4 wheel wagons. Love the brewery.
ROB Real glad you survived the horrendous weather OK, really hope that you will get a long spell of settled weather now .
Thanks for the beer and the reduction on my bar tab interest. Quite pleased with my typing classpassing the first level, only trouble is BORIS is already on level 3.
Many thanks for those great Alco photos
ALLAN I would think a down under game of Rugby League would not be for the faint of heart. The name ‘Biffo' brought back a memory, I think ‘Biffo the Bear' was on the front page of the Beano comic for many years.
Glad you enjoyed the photos
I think I would like to try some of that Tuitomato sauce..
Alan's photo of the newly restored A4 No 60019 Bittern, a former Gateshead loco, at York after hauling the North Briton tour from London King's Cross.
ERIC Many thanks for the great photos and the link to the SKF roller bearings I had not realised they were fitted on the TGV they are not often thought about but a very vital part of rail transport.
It was March 26th this year those photos were taken at Union Station in Kansas City, hopefully Tom and I will be able to see the layout soon.
Very much appreciate your help with scanning the slides
Many thanks for the link to the DC-3s. I see the company that has an active aircraft from Coventry Airport, near my old home, is named Air Atlantique. I see that G-AMRA drops poppies over the Remembrance Day commemorations in the City of Coventry.
CM3 Many thanks for the details on Rob and Eric's photos.
Glad you enjoyed the tramway photo. You have given me an idea, do you think a bat in the bag would keep the mosquitoes away, the ones round here sure seem to like English blood.
There does indeed seem a lot of track work going on at the present, is the whole of the Boston and New York line closed or just a part of the line.
I have some photos from the BR blue days of the mid 1970s.
At the ex Great Western London Paddington station 'Western' diesel-hydraulic class 52,No 1023 'Western Fusilier' as arrived with an express. This was towards the last days of the 'Westerns' although allocated TOPS class code 52 they never carried a TOPS number.
The Westerns were replaced by the English Electric diesel-electric class 50s. Here 50021 approaches Paddington, the 50s were later refurbished and named after 'Warships', 50021 was named 'Rodney'
Opposite London Transport's Royal Oak station, where the last photo was taken from, was Ranleigh Bridge servicing point, that originated from steam days when locomotives not needing to go to Old Oak Depot were serviced and turned. It served the same purpose in diesel days. It is not there today not needed after the introduction of the HSTs
The line up is,as far as I can make out on the slide, class 52 No 1029 'Western Legionnaire', a class 31, another diesel electric class which replaced the hydraulic classes like the Hymeks and 50048 which was later named 'Dauntless'
Looking ex works,No 1001 'Western Pathfinder' at Paignton Devon. This was taken from a park alongside the preserved Paington and Dartmouth Railway, a great place to watch trains after a ride on the P&DR. I had arrived on a 'Merrymaker' excursion from Rugby and of course in those days the pubs were not open all day.
Well TOM I see you are behind the bar so I will have another Bathams and the Fish 'N' Chips you are kindly buying today.
Pete.
Another slow one ‘round the Tavern by the Tracks - go ahead ‘n secure for the day, Ruth - Boris ‘n I will handle things. And on our monthly anniversary at that . . . had thought we'd get a PG <periphery guy> or two . . . Thankfully CM3 Shane "popped" in with a fine <I3 > Post!
Continuing on with Rendezvous III fotos . . .
NOTE: Day Three at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <MoT, Kirkwood> . . .
(149) New York Central & Hudson River #113 - S-2 switcher <built in 1906 by ALCO-GE>
(150)
(151) Illinois Terminal #1575 - Class B electric <built in 1929 by IT>
(152)
(153) Baltimore & Ohio #50 - non-articulated passenger diesel <built in 1935 by EMC>
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Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Weather here is warm but the humidity is tolerable although the "great heat" is supposed to return starting tomorrow.
Rob - Sounds as though you have been having lots of fun in the weather. We had a nice round of it on Tuesday and the K9 Korps got caught "outside" in the thunder - 85 lbs. of traumatized dog! Usually he lets folks know way ahead of bad weather but I guess this snuck up on him.
Baldwins would work o.k. (especially the switchers) if you had a good shop; most (notice I said most) of their road power was a different story.
CP 6618 - good one!
CP 8404 worked that area for years. Notice MEC cab and Lamoille Valley boxcar in background. Unless they moved it (hate it when that happens) St. Johnsbury is in Vermont (and, by God proud to be there.) Note to Eric - You'd like the climate up there - 10 months of snow, a month of bad ice and mud and a month of blistering heat and clouds of mosquitoes (multi-engine jobs at that!)
Nick - Family activities are always good. Missing rail? They'll never know it was gone. 0-4-2 Sir Theodore - any possible date on that shot ? Enjoyed your layout pictures as well.
Eric - Good SLSF detail material. C&O 2700s ran all over here in mainline service; freight and sometimes passenger. They were good steamers and fast as (fill in whatever you want here.) Daniel Nason is one of the three or four most interesting items in the Museum's collection - in addition to several items in the back shed which we talked about. B&P later became part of the New Haven. Some of their old buildings are probably still standing around Mansfield, MA which is a real speedway for the Acelas now.
Pete has been visiting - I think he has a new title (in addition to many others - some of which can be mentioned). All hail "Batman Pete!" Aka "Exalted Keeper of the Batbag!" Tramway locomotive was a good addition to the slide file.
Allan - Always enjoy "talking" baseball.
OSP - Thanks for the food and drink. As Curly once said, "That was very hospital of you." Nice selection of cabs from different roads. Then we have all sorts of vintage NP and DRG material as well. The Royal Gorge Route was a big selling point for years for the latter road. The 1904 Yellowstone brochure is a beautiful piece of graphics and printing. You know how much I like that sort of thing.
So the track work goes on. The NEC is going to be OOS between Boston and New York for the next few days (starting about June 14). They will be doing a maintenance blitz and, most importantly, finally replacing the Thames River Bridge at New London. Also B&A is getting a lot of work so AT 448/449 is enjoying bus coverage between Boston and Albany for at least 4 days per week.
I will do my best to post tomorrow, but it is not looking too good. Will be back in usual time slot next week for sure.
BTW - them are still doves - that's my story and I'm stickin' to it."
E mail received and answered.
Work safe
Happy 38th Month Anniversary to all who have made this place successful - especially the present crew. Best ever!
Food ‘n drinks on Da Bossman for:
Allan - CM3 Shane - Eric - Nick - Pete ‘n Rob!
Five Salute to our GoR!
One more day to go ‘n it'll be FRIDAY! Week's end is near!
Time to check out our Menu Board for <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts - fill up your coffee mug ‘n grab a pastry from The Mentor Village Bakery case! [yeha]
148 fotos from Rendezvous III
Wednesday - June 10th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 38 - Pete <pwolfe> at 11:05 AM ‘n 3:10 PM: A two-fer from the Wolfman! Nice mix ‘n match of fotos in your first visit - something there for everyone . . . that O-gauge stuff out in KCity looks great . . .
Enjoyed speaking with you today ‘n happy to note that things seem to be progressing favorably for you with the foot problem. Looking forward to making those reservations for another Amtrak journey - ‘n maybe even a stop at the TrainWreck for lunch ‘n stuff! It's a "go" from here for whatever arrangement fits your schedule.
Page 38 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:35 PM <1:35 AM Thursday GMT>: What a fine looking schematic drawing - many thanx for the "link" you provided - I'm going to put together the Can-Am Railway's track design using the Atlas download - just have to ensure that I figure out the "how to" part first!
That track plan of yours is unbelievably awesome - really! And it's the first level. Can-Am Railway is far, far simplistic but functional ‘n it puts a smile to the face when watching the assorted passenger ‘n freight trains make their rounds. Isn't that what this hobby of ours is supposed to do Youbetcha!
Your ONR models are absolutely terrific - really enjoy looking at the amount of stuff you have in those pike shots! Really innovative blend of UK ‘n NA <north American> rolling stock . . . "works" well!
Snoopy goggles, helmets ‘n scarves along with leather flight jackets 'n boots have been provided to all in the Zep crew for the long distance journey to down under. Along with some "apparel' from the LoPM for the NZ gals who will be making the return trip! <pant> <pant>
Enjoyed the visit, chat, fotos ‘n of course the ROUND!
Page 38 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:58 PM: From the sounds of it, your corner of the world took it on the chin - but remained standing! Way to go! Those kinds of storms require only one action - bend over ‘n kiss your caboose good-bye! <uh oh> Hardly a place to run ‘n hide, eh Glad to know all's as well as can be expected - thankfully no serious damage to your home ‘n more importantly you, the bride ‘n the cats made it through okay!
Somewhat OH-FEND-ED by the manifest for the Zep flight, eh Hmmmmm - just imagine "your friend" that we met on our trip up to Toronto in one of those "strings" ‘n lots of wax at that ! <ugh>
Good to have you amongst us again ‘n keep up the "good work" with Pete ‘n his bar tab! <grin>
Page 38 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:11 PM <5:11 PM Thursday NZ time>: Our Resident Downunder Kiwi in NZ is about <aboot for Rob> the decks!
Email acknowledgment received for the RR BOOK RELAY 2008 - thanx!
Keep a watch on the skies - there'll be a Zep arriving one day - loaded with "essentials" ‘n ready to take on a cargo of Tui ‘n babes for the journey to Can-Am County . . . You'll not have any problems picking out the crew - all wearing their Snoopy helmets, goggles ‘n scarves - leather flight jackets ‘n boots - yeah "cool" guys all! <grin>
I'll pass on that spicy Tuitomato sauce - my "spice" comes in different varieties! Yeah - even at my age . . . <uh oh>
Petrol is off the charts ‘round the world ‘n I suppose one needs to recognize that it's past due time to make some serious changes to the way we do things. Given, that is, the extortionists ‘n speculators are going to be permitted to maintain their stranglehold . . . keel hauling comes to mind - a triple dose at that! <geesh>
Pete ‘n I were chatting about how easy this crew is to get along with and that we've not encountered any AH or JO behavior amongst our GoR - that's what makes this bunch the best - ‘n you're a huge part of it. Just wish you could find your way to this side of the world for a Rendezvous! But short of that - your company at the bar is most appreciated!
The joint is always made a bit brighter when our Downunder Connection makes it "in" - of course the ROUND of Tui helps immensely! <grin> Good to see ya, Mate!
Page 39 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:21 PM: I don't believe it - our Ontario Connection turned ANOTHER Page . . . Take one of those bottomless steins for yourself as a token of appreciation for your continued ‘n long time support!
Spate of four fotos brightened up the joint - but the best of the bunch is that CNR FA1 - don't believe I've ever seen one in that livery <wee bit darker version of seasick green>. Terrific!
Appreciate the 2nd visit!
Thursday - June 12th:
Page 39 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:51 AM <11:51 PM Wednesday Sandbox time>: Thanx for the PhotoShop info - I've got one of their software packages - and of course it is chock full o' stuff I've never looked at! Isn't that the way for many of us We purchase this stuff for perhaps just one or two remedies ‘n never get A-ROUNDTUIT when it comes to finding out what else is on the disks! <groan> I'll look this time!
Really some fine links for the aircraft! I remember the C-46 ‘n of course the Curtiss-Wright name. Now that's "back in the day," fer sure, fer sure.
A fine close-up of my CP caboose on a siding. Betcha can't recall what the roadname of the box car is! <grin> This isn't a quiz, just a "mind bender"!
I recall your pointing out the Swedish connection to the RDCs . . . nice shot ‘n URL!
"Sandman" kinda "fits," dontchathink <grin> I mean you're a guy "made" for the deserts of the world . . . and what do deserts FEATURE S-A-N-D! <uh oh>
Yes, yes - I caught the news about the heavy snow in Washington ‘n Oregon. Woe is me - why am I living here Juneau ‘n I would LUV it where the snow is butt-deep to an elephant! Bring it on, Mate! <uh oh>
Putting the price of petrol in the U.S. into liters illustrates perfectly what that "system" does - it's is deceiving to those of us accustomed to larger measures <gallons vs liters>. So what is the conversion - 3.9 I think. Anyway, gasoline ain't gonna drop anytime soon - no matter what scale one uses. <ugh>
Many thanx for the fotos, visit, chat ‘n business! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Reminder: Ruth has the bar until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
In recognition of the 38th Monthly Anniversary of "Our" Place, here's something not seen before . . . enjoy!
Food 'n drinks on Da Bossman for all of our regular crew today!
Now Arriving on Track Number One
Heralds - Drumheads - Ads - Covers ‘n Stuff #4
Northern Pacific Railway
The Northern Pacific Railway (AAR reporting marks NP) was a railway that operated in the north-central region of the United States. The railroad served a large area, including extensive trackage in the states of Idaho, Minnesota, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, Washington and Wisconsin. The company was headquartered first in Brainerd, Minnesota, then in St. Paul, Minnesota.
The Northern Pacific was chartered on July 2, 1864 as the first northern transcontinental railroad in the United States. It was granted some 47,000,000 acres (190,000 km²) of land in exchange for building rail transportation to an undeveloped territory. Josiah Perham (for whom Perham, Minnesota is named) was elected its first president on December 7, 1864.
The North Coast Limited was a famous passenger train operated by the Northern Pacific Railway between Chicago and Seattle via Bismarck, North Dakota. It commenced service on April 29, 1900, served briefly as a Burlington Northern train after the merger on March 2, 1970 and ceased operation the day before Amtrak began service (April 30, 1971). The Chicago Union Station to St. Paul leg of the train's route was operated by the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad along its Mississippi River mainline through Wisconsin.
In June of 1971, the North Coast Limited service was restarted by Amtrak as the North Coast Hiawatha operating via the Milwaukee Road mainline between Chicago and Minneapolis. The train continued running on a 3 day a week schedule (with some periods of daily operation during holidays and summer) until it was again discontinued in 1979.
The North Coast Limited was the Northern Pacific's flagship train and the Northern Pacific itself was built along the trail first blazed by Lewis and Clark.
<from: wikipedia.com>
1904 Yellowstone Park line brochure
Western Pacific Railroad
The Western Pacific Railroad (AAR reporting marks WP) was a Class I railroad in the United States. It is now part of the Union Pacific Railroad (UP). It was the second railroad company to use this name. The original Western Pacific Railroad was established in 1865 to build the western-most portion of the Transcontinental Railroad between San Jose, California, and Sacramento, California. This company was absorbed into the Central Pacific Railroad in 1870.
Founded in 1903, the Western Pacific Railroad was built as a portion of the Gould family's efforts to create a transcontinental railroad in the late 19th and early 20th century.
One of the American West's most popular railroads, the WP attracted rail enthusiasts from around the world. From 1910 to 1982, its diverse route provided scenic views of the San Francisco Bay Area, the mountain communities of the famous Feather River Route, and the deserts of Nevada and Utah. The Western Pacific originated in 1900 as the Alameda and San Joaquin Railroad. The railroad which would become the Western Pacific was financed and built by the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad, under the direction of George Jay Gould I, to provide a standard gauge track connection to the Pacific Coast. In 1909, it became the last railroad completed into California.
Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad
The Denver and Rio Grande Railroad (AAR reporting marks DRG and DRGW), generally referred to as the Rio Grande, became the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad in 1920, and is today a fallen flag . The D&RGW served mainly as a transcontinental bridge line between Denver, Colorado, and Salt Lake City, Utah, and a major origin of coal and mineral traffic, with a motto of Through the Rockies, not around them. The Rio Grande was the epitome of mountain railroading, operating the highest mainline rail line in the United States, the over 10,240 ft (3,121 m) Tennessee Pass in Colorado, and the famed routes through the Moffat Tunnel and the Royal Gorge. At its height, around 1890, the D&RG had the largest operating narrow gauge railroad network in North America. Known for its independence, the D&RGW operated the last private longhaul passenger train in the United States, the Rio Grande Zephyr.
D&RGW 1960 timetable cover
DRGW Abraham Lincoln Pullman Car (GNU Free Documentation)
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Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, just a cup of coffee, please! Black! Okay, I'll have a danish too. Cheese.
This evening went by way too fast. I agree with Tom, the older you get the faster it goes.
Tom – To put the red arrows in any photo I’ll use some kind of editing program, in this case Photoshop. One can make the arrows any color and size wanted. I guess you know it was snowing in the state of Washington yesterday. 1 foot of snow! Eric Sandman? I guess it could have been much worse.I have flown DC-3 just once. And I have flown Curtiss-Wright CW-20 (C-46 Commando). Like a DC-3 but a little bigger. Could take heavier loads.
A US Air Force C-47 at Bromma Airport, Stockholm, Sweden 1958. (50 years ago.)Wow, very nice S-gauge cabooses! I recognize the one from the S-Capades layout! Looks even better live!I have a photo of a Can-Am CP caboose.A good collection of photos from the Museum of Transportation! The RDC looks kind of sad but I am sure they (the Museum) will get it fixed up. I am adding a Swedish detail on the RDC.SKF, (Svenska KullagerFabriken) roller bearings.http://evolution.skf.com/zino.aspx?articleID=15137Pete – Nice photos from KC! I guess that layout is not finished yet. How long ago did you take those pictures? That 3-unit Alco looks very nice!I don’t think the extra wide treads caused any problems on those locomotives. I think it was a smart way to change the gauge! I’ll be happy to help you scan whatever you need help with. Nick – I am sure the easiest way to change the gauge on those broad gauge locomotives was to use extra wide wheel treads, just like they did. The treads are shrinked onto the wheels so there is no welding. The Swiss locomotive on your layout looks like a AE 3/6, 2-Co-1, from 1924. 2,090 hp. The French locomotive looks like a class BB 16000, but some details are different. Maybe it is a class BB 9200? And a classic Kenworth truck!Rob – Good to hear that you and the Mrs are okay. Hopefully the scared cats have calmed down by now. We had a microburst on our street a number of years ago. Lifted a big pine tree with roots from one neighbor’s front yard across the street and dropped it in another neighbor’s front yard. Thanks for the info on those diesel locomotives! Ahh, I love the picture of that Alco FA1! Very good looking locomotive! Is it still operational? Allan – Yes, those Shays are very similar. Very good looking locomotives! Hope your weather has turned a little bit warmer now! Interesting that they still have a C-47 flying in NZ! There are quite a few of them still flying around the world. See this link.http://www.iannel.za.net/osic/index.php?catalogue_id=1&qCategory=1&start=0ZK-DAK (New Zealand Warbirds) is probably the one you mentioned, number 6 from the top.We are paying US $1.07 per liter for gas in Phoenix now.\
Okay lets see I think we need a coupe more photo's with pictures,I love old Alco's so that's what we'll do.
A CP S11 just outside of the Montrose yards ( now gone ) in Niagara Falls On
CNR FA1 preserved at the Tech museum in Ottawa, the first FA1 turned out by MLW !
CN C424 at Niagara Fall's Stanley Ave yard ( now also gone )
A CP RS2 at St Johnsbury Maine ( slide I picked up at flea market ) early 80's just before they were retired. These were from the RS2 order CP had build by Alco to deiselize their International of Maine division.
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Nick. Tha AB`s play England over here in Auckland on Saturday, their is great interest in the outcome as Henry reckon`s England have a tougher pack than the Irish one. The under 21 AB`s are doing well in the RWc comp as you said. Really enjoyed all your varied selection of pix from Ireland and Wales and your model Rly layout loco`s and rolling stock. Some of Bullied`s loco designs were a bit way out BITD, maybe this was because he was born in Invercargill, New Zealand? Am waiting for the Blimp to arrive ASAP, have got a pallet full of crates` of the nectar ready for you and Tom to partake in! Another tasty selection of fine fodder on the menu from you.
Eric. The only difference that I could see in those Shays` was the smokestacks`, they must have used the same basic plans. Some nice random pix including the Can Am RR bus and a great selection of pix from the Museum of Transportation on your RV III tripith the Gang.
Pete, Still prefer your old home town game of union to league, their`s too much dirty play in the Aussie league that the NZ Warriors` play in, they call dirty play "Biffo" over here! Nice lot of pix of the Gang at the Kirkwood MOT at RV III, the Superliner cars at KC and all the others too, all "keepers`"!
CM3. Was in with some humerous quotes from Diz the pitcher.
Rob. Enjoyed your great varied collection of colorful cabooses` here, and over on the other thread, all "keepers`" Their is a restored DC-3 [C-47] in wartime USAF colors still flying over here in NZ, it travels around the country in the summer doing fare paying sightseeing flights. Thanks for those laughs in the mailbox mate.
Tom. Jimmy Stewart and June Allyson bring back some nice BITD memories in those baseball flicks at the weekend. Am waiting for Nick to turn up eith the Blimp to get those Tui`s over to you ASAP! We have got "Tuitomato" sauce on the market over here now, would you believe? It taste`s something like an extra spicy ketchup, very nice on chips [fries]. Some nice posts of Fallen Flags RR`s on the WP RR and the Singing Brakeman Jimmie Rodgers, and a really great spread of pix of your return from Gaspe on the Chaleur including your favourite SNOW, and all the great pix of the Gang at your place and the Kirkwood museum, and the S gauge cabooses` too, all "keepers"! Gas has just gone up here again to NZ$2.069 a litre.
See ya, Allan
Good evening Leon. Yes I survived the week ( just barely ).Extra large tankard of Keith's please and a round for everyone else. What a day on Monday let me tell you. he neighbour accross the street got the worst of it. Microburst camethrough lifted a 45' tall maple off his side yard and dropped it onto his front porch No one was hurt but several hundred trees were knocked over accross the city most of the parks and trails got closed down as they all are covered in old growth. Just a wicked week weatherwise. Nice to see the gangs still firing on most cylnders here this week Thanks for everyones concern,were fine the worst we got was about five shingles blown off the shed and a couple scared cats.
Tom-Nice bunch o stuff from you this week as per usual greats shots of the museum Dakotas trains and all .More neat shots from the Chaleur and some nifty shots of S scale cabooses,not to mention the WP info all in all a veritable smorg of good stuff ot your email as well will respond soon.
Nick-Hmmm H&H are flying to the South Pacific to bring back suds and babes I'll have to reserve judgement <uh oh >I don't like the sound of the manifest Tom said they were takling with them as well,those two string bikibi's and personal wax should not be mentioned in the same breath let alone the same sentance. I guess I'll have to institute a new guanno check of the bar and kitchen staff now that all the talk of the bat lady has come to light.
Lots o great photo's form you as well real and model.
Pete-Congradulations,you past level one of Molly's typing coarse,only ten more to go.For that we sahll lower your intrest on the line of credit bar tab by one quarter of one per cent.I know it's a wonderfull deal , whick only our best customers get.Nice model shots from you as well
Eric-About the only thing we didn't see was snow or duststorms,hail yes, wind and green and purple skys yes.Just glad they are over ( for now )More thunderstorms in the mix tomorrow but they are supposed to be normal one's not supercell ones.To answer your question fromm a couple days ( daze back ) Those CP 630's and 636's were all pressed back into service in late 92 they ran them till they dropped till late 96 or so,the shot I got I think was in 1992.
Great closeups of the tread detail on that Russian decapod neat locomotive fer sure fer sure.
Shane-I'm glad a couple of those photo's flicked a switch for you. I aggree that the GWWD's name is one of the more interesting one's. I find that Southern Ontario and Western New York are alot the same in that,both have seemed to have either paved over or converted to trails alot of what should still be usable rail infrastructure. Likes the four stacker comment,I wonder if the VO series were as reliable as those old destroyers
Hey Leon the glass is empty again think I'll need another.
Well good evening one and all-halfway through another week and all is well-another very convivial family meal tonight-this time in a pub down on the waters edge,looking out over the Haven-despite medium grade rain the water was crowded with sailboats getting in shape for the upcoming Seafair festival and we were filled with good chow in a pleasant and spacious dining room.....
Leon-I will chance my arm on a bottomless draught of Carling please and would be most suprised if the rest of the gang won`t join me in one...
So-whats new round here:-
ERIC-Thanks for checking out the detail on the boxcab--glad you enjoyed the pix-always a pleasure to share ...
Rather taken with that B&P `American`-very evocative of the early days,before even the 4-4-0 design became standardised-nice one
I find the modifications to the Decapod somewhat bizarre-seems odd to rely on welded-on fixtures to absorb the massive vertical and lateral stresses involved when it would be so much easier to just trim down the axles......... Still,I`m sure they had their reasons...although as I typed that it occured that the cylinders would then have to be moved etc....Hmmmm
TOM-E-M`s recd & responded-further to which-plan `B`-specifically track-plan `B`-eventually went for the print/scan back in (as jpeg) and send from there-will put it up here instead as a small contribution to P.P day
Here is an early attempt to map the lower level of the S.O.B lines before I was defeated by the differences in U.S/U.K track geometry-the numerals are spot heights-this is at a zoom factor of 1:20 -The available track elements all seem to match those used on the Can-Am and the building footprints include Walthers Cornerstone,Life-Like & others
I foresee great things for the Irish band-starting with a support slot with the Big River Band
Your Continental tour sounded like a blast !! - a chance to see the country of your forebears,up close and personal -cant beat it !!
F-Units:- on checking the roster I am startled to find I can muster
F2a-2 off -C.N & C.V
F3a-1 off-G.T.W
F7a-3 off-C.N(2) O.N.R
F7b-2 off -C.N & VIA
FP7-2 off-O.N.R
F9a-2 off C.N & VIA
Several of these are not accurate livery/model combinations,but frankly-life is too short to re-do perfectly good paint jobs
Here are the FP7`s with some stock I have painted to match-locos require winterisation hatches,removal of dynamic brake fans and replacement horn clusters
Thanks for the Van-Zant link-have some dvd footage somewhere of the band playing live on an old Brit tv show-they do Freebird note for note from the record -all 15 minutes of it or whatever-breathtaking stuff
Look like the Zeppelin trip is ready to go-we just need to grab some cold cuts from the galley here before take off .......
Fine selection of cabooses -tend to agree with PETE here-without a van at the back,its just a string of wagons......
Also a nice mixed bag from the museum-something for everybody here--good call
PETE-Interesting assortment from K.C here-model is shaping up well
Have a feeling I might have some footage of the new Midland livery on my latest dvd set-will go back and check it out-vivid electric blue rings a bell............
Glad you liked the VoR shots-will have to look up the arrival date of #10 -the pic of #8 (without pump) dates from about `91 or so,as close as I can reckon it and those of #7 (with pump) are post 95 ,give or take..
O.K-One last beer before I call it a day-any takers ??-thats the spirit-Leon,do the honours please old thing
Right lets see what rises to the surface when I shake the photobucket tonight:-
An international feel tonight-French Bo-Bo with Swiss & French stock and Swiss 3/5 (or 5/3 ?) with multinational freight
Assortment of 10 & 12 ton mineral wagons in pre 1948 company & private owner colours
Industrial district before the ground cover went down
A quiet corner-the brewery spur,line at rear is to upper staging,in fore ground down to Bradford/Midsomer Norton
F40ph on the varnish,F3a on mixed freight,B+O & GTW boxcars awaiting collection,quiet corner from previous shot upper left corner
3f on down minerals at rear,Bulleid pacific `Lord Beaverbrook` on up passenger in centre & class 37 on mixed freight in foreground
Right-that looks like my six-mix-take care chaps -see you for fishies (and filet mignon ) tomorrow-sleep well
I see Pete's been by TWICE, helping out in the mid-day doldrums with some fine fotos ‘n an inclusive Post!
Just heard on the radio that Amtrak will be shutting down 4 trains between St. Louis 'n Chicago beginning next week due to UP track work. The Texas Eagle will be totally rerouted making no stops between St. Louis 'n Chicago. Soooooooo, Rendezvous III planning worked out WELL, eh boyz
Continuing on with Rendezvous III fotos . . . Rule of Six suspended <by one>!
NOTE:Day Three at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <MoT, Kirkwood> . . .
"Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous III - St. Louis, MO 2008 - Day Three
(142) Chicago, Burlington & Quincy <BURLINGTON ROUTE> #9908 Zephyr "Silver Charger" <built in1939 by Budd - last "shovelnose" produced - retired in 1965>
(143) Union Tank Line #14386 <built in 1910 by Union Tank Car - "Van ***" frameless design>
(144) MBTA #54 RDC-1 <former CP unit - built in 1954 by Budd>
(145) Beneath the RDC
(146) Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific Railroad <ROCK ISLAND> Aerotrain locomotive #3 <built in 1955 by EMD - only 1,200 hp!>
(147) Joplin-Pittsburg #2003 - Plymouth 70T switcher <built in 1936 by Plymouth>
Note: That's NOT Pittsburgh, PA - this one is in Kansas ‘n spelled without the "h"
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More to follow . . .
Hi Tom and all
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
NICK Sounds like you had a great evening yesterday.
I shall be interested to hear your opinion of the new East Midland livery on their HSTs, the cars don't seem too bad, a bit reminiscent of the Blue Pullmans but the painting on the front end is a little to gaudy for me.
I don't mind bats as long as they stay where they should. At the old house in England there was a small bat, sometimes two, that would come out about twilight and hunt for insects, I used to go out in the garden on a warm spring night and watch their aerial acrobatics.
I think you have got the Irish Band sorted out not sure about the 4-part harmony, the bride says I can't hold a tune in a bucket, so it would have to be just drums and drink for me.
Many thanks for the great photos. Liked the different liveries on the V of R, it brought to mind how long ago since I was last there, there was no # 10 diesel and no air pumps on the steamers then.
ERIC Thanks for the photos of the wide wheel treads on the Frisco #1621, I did not notice them at the museum I wonder if the extra wide treads ever caused a problem when the locomotive went over point work.
I will have to look into the digital cameras some more, one with a reasonable zoom capability but fairly simple would do the trick I think.
Many thanks for the kind offer to scan my dark slides, I have not gone through them all yet, so I will sort out the dark ones that I think are interesting and send them to you if I may. I will send you an e-mail before I mail them.
Great photos again from inside the shed at the Museum at Kirkwood.
TOM Great names for our ‘band', I will see if Pat's Place has a spot open for us.
I must admit I thought it was a Kamikaze Bat when it entered the narrow tunnel; obviously its sonar was a lot better than my steering capabilities.
Thanks for the link to Ronnie Van Zant, another musical talent lost to an air crash.
Nice selection of model caboosestwo Mo Pac ones from the S-Capades. I guess we are getting used to it now both in North America and the UK, but still seems to me, a freight train is incomplete without a caboose/brake van on the rear of the train..
Well RUTH a round for those who come in please.
A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH..
A few photos this morning. I had a problem with my photo album yesterday evening but it seems OK now.
These are from a spur of the moment trip to Kansas City when I saw Amtrak was still using Superliner cars.
At KC Union station the Missouri Mule heads for the wye to turn, as can be seen the cars are not too clean outside.
Although the train was late arriving in KC I did manage to get this photo.
A happy discovery was a new model layout in Union Station with this great Santa Fe Alco.
Also these two great RDCs and a sand tower, I believe Fergie was asking about sand towers a while back . By the lights on the RDC it can been seen it was a bit dark for photos where the layout was. There was a trolley car as well but it was too dark to take a photo of it.
Well RUTH back in a while.
Another day without CM3 Shane - but he let us know in advance, which is why I'm Posting this in his "slot"!
It's Wednesday, so here's something a bit different on this . . .
OPTIONAL Toy 'n Model Trains Day!
Some S gauge cabooses!
(1) MoPac - this one is on the S-Capades layout! <from S-Helper/Showcase Line>
(2) MoPac bay window <from: American Models>
(3) MoPac wood side - this one is on the S-Capades layout! <from: American Models>
(4) IC wood side <from American Models>
(5) ICG <from: Sp-Helper/Showcase Line>
(6) CP wood side <from: American Models>
Wednesday's Witticism
Be mighty careful in your choice of enemies.
Can it be mid-week already Time has a way of marching on! The older I get, the faster it seems to go . . .
The aroma of freshly baked pastries along with our special blend coffee makes this place a special treat in the morning! Ahhhhhhhhh. Best get a move on with your order for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast while the galley crew is on a roll!
Comments from the Proprietor
Appreciate any ‘n all help to keep "my other Thread" going! The idea is to take a look at the TIME of the last Post - if it is 6 - 8 - 10 - 12 or more hours - stop by with at least 1 foto or a brief comment. That helps!
135 fotos from Rendezvous III
Tuesday - June 10th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 38 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:58 AM: Out of the storm cellar for a quick "hit" at the bar - the gone-zo! Sounds like a ruff spring thus far. Hope things settle down, Mate! And of course, thanx for the ROUND!
Page 38 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 12:47 PM: A "normal" Post from our "normal" customer in the hills of WVA!
I've made my comments regarding the "girl bird" - but will say this too: saw "that" neighbor lady last evening while on a walk with Juneau - brought up your comment. Her response <censored>. No, only kidding - but she did say that there is a resemblance, but . . . <grin> Dove it is!
Amazed that "Collusion Corner" still has petrol under four bucks . . . $3.94 <rounded>.
No rain thus far this week, as we escaped another predicted "wall of water" on Monday, which turned out to be cloudy ‘n humid. Yesterday was absolutely beautiful, temps got up to the mid-80s (F) - but there was a cool breeze most of the day. Really a joy to be outdoors. Forecast calls for heating up as we get closer to week's end, with the world coming to an end sometime on Friday. <yikes>
One of the all-time characters of "the game" - RIP Dizzy Dean! I'd like to meet the guy with the Ebbets Field stories - my first visit to the place was in the late 40s - then I became a "regular" as a kid ‘n high schooler. Loved the place. Ah, the Boys of Summer!
Many thanx for your fine all-inclusive Post, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 38 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:11 PM: Sorry to learn that your foot hasn't come ‘round yet. Hmmmm. Well, when you're ready - we'll make a plan!
Oh fer sure, The Irish Drovers are we four! <grin> I doubt that I could carry a tune in a basket these days <daze> much less pass for an Irishman! Ah yes, Eric O'Sandman - Peter O'Wolfman - Shane O'Coalman ‘n Tom O'Bossman!
Come to think of it, I have noticed some rather LARGE empties outback of the Adult Learning Centre ‘n Mud Wrestling Emporium - appeared to be 5 gallon jugs. Now that's a lottagin! <geesh>
Regarding the bat encounter in the tunnel: Which one of you were operating under the influence Hilarious vision - but certainly not fun for you, eh Those critters have been known to frighten even the manliest of men. <yikes>
Now that loco surely has a rather tall stack . . . odd looking beast, but functional I'll bet! Thanx . . .
Another fine inclusive Post from our Resident Brit in mid-Missouri - ROUND appreciated too!
Page 38 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8 PM ‘n 8:51 PM <2 AM ‘n 2:51 AM Wednesday GMT>: A fine image of family settled in for an evening's dinner, chat ‘n stuff. Nicely done!
Technology isn't anything to fear - it simply requires understanding! Digi-cams are here to stay . . .
Love that reference to speed limits as ‘suggestions' rather than ‘rules' . . . wish I wudda had that one in my repertoire while with our local PD . . .
Mentor County Playboys, eh Yeah, right . . . County Can-Am Crusaders! Hmmmm, now that one might work! <grin> Who gets the washboard
I'd say YOU got yourself the "pick of the litter" from Stuttgart! Gotta watch those of us who are "height challenged" - we strike first, think later . . . <uh oh> Panzers, VWs, BMWs ‘n Mercedes - what's better ‘n that, eh
The only time I spent in Germany was in 1971 - ship tied up in the northern port of Lübeck- rented a car with a shipmate buddy ‘n we drove as far south as the Alps . . . had a blast, stopping hither ‘n yon - with no particular agenda to follow. Did spend a bit o' time in München. Turned the vehicle in at Kempten im Allgäu - took the train to Ulm on the River Danube - then another to Paris, etc., etc. Met the ship at Brest, France for the trip back to Boston. Was a fun-packed 10 days on the continent. That entire deployment was 7 weeks from start to finish . . . lots of time at sea, but some interesting port calls (Southampton - Oslo - Lübeck ‘n Brest).
There was little doubt <doot for Rob> that you'd be "into" the Jimmie Rodgers tunes . . . he was a classic fer sure, fer sure.
You have quite an assortment of "Fs," Mate! Rivet counting never was my thing. However, there has to be an eye for detail in this hobby we enjoy so much. But, there's a limit - when fun turns to obsession - that's where I draw the line. Anyway - thanx for the info on the track planning <again>!
RIP Ronnie Van Zant - now there's a name that brought back a thought or three - a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Van_Zant
Lo-altitude gear being shipped as we speak for the down under voyage. Have it on good authority that the anti-missile systems are being fitted along with two 500 gallon drums of liquid Prep H, 3 pallets of Bikini strings ‘n a "vat" of wax . . . What, huh BBT - Bring Back the Tui! And a bevy of those NZ gals! <pant> <pant>
As has become your trademark - those foto spreads are top drawer, Mate! Many thanx for taking the time ‘n making the effort to not only upload/download for us - but to put forth the descriptions as well. Sez a lot, fer sure, fer sure! My favorites are in that Rosslare spread!
Good to see you've figured out the bottomless stein mystique! <grin>
Many thanx for the two-fer, good cheer, chat, fotos ‘n ROUNDs!
Wednesday - June 11th:
Page 38 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:29 AM <10:29 PM Tuesday Sandbox time>: Would love to know HOW you put those red arrows into your fotos! Nicely done - all. Also, picking up on how they converted the wheels from one gauge to another is not only of interest, but insightful of you to pick up on. Thanx!
That snow ‘n ice witnessed up in Gaspé is probably the last I'll be seeing ‘til winter rolls ‘round again. Can't be too soon for Juneau ‘n I!
I believe the first DC-3 I experienced was aboard a Capital Airlines flight from New York City to Mobile Alabama - with several stops in between. That was in 1951 . . . the last was in 1959 aboard a Pacific Northern Airlines flight from Anchorage to Kodiak, Alaska with a stop in Homer - where the back portion of my seat was a tied-down washing machine. No joke! <uh oh>
Many thanx for the spate of fotos, chat ‘n business! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Leon, my friend, tonight is a perfect night for those Steak and Bisquits! A cold Tuborg Gold!
Managed to stop by a little bit earlier tonight.
Tom – Douglas DC3, a classic airliner to say the least. The very first plane I flew in was a DC3 in the mid 50’s.Landscape with snow? Hmmm, I guess everyone knows what I think about it. It is okay to see the white stuff on a postcard or posted here at Our Place. That is all I am going to say. Jimmie Rodgers, a very good singer. He died way too early. Very nice photos from the sunny Saturday at the Museum of Transportation! It would be interesting to see H.C. Pott in the lake they are going to create. So the C-47A actually flew to the museum! Didn’t know that. #551 is a good looking locomotive! Frisco’s #1621 is an interesting locomotive. As you mentioned, it was built for Russia’s broad gauge. The way they converted it to standard gauge is very interesting. They put on extra wide wheel treads on all wheels. It can be seen in these pictures.
Very wide wheel tread.Rob – Microbursts and violent thunderstorms? Sounds like Phoenix during the moonson, which, by the way, starts on Sunday. Add dust storms and it really is like Phoenix. Be careful, take cover and we’ll see you tomorrow! CM3 – You are having a dry heat in WV? Really? Hmmm. My phone reports that you had 82˚ in your neck of the woods today but it doesn't say that it was dry. It is supposed to stay that way the rest of the week.Pete – I understand you are looking for a good, basic digital camera. Any special features you want included? Any particular brand? Thanks for the photo of the Wantage Tramway locomootive ‘Shannon’! Really a tiny one! If you want to you can send me some of your bad slides and I’ll be happy to try to scan them for you. If so, send me a mail. Good news that you found some more slides! Glad you liked my photos. I did some editing to improve the photos. From the beginning the locos were pretty dark, but it was possible to change that. Nick – Thanks for the info on the Q1! Pete posted a photo of the Wantage Tramway steam locomotive ‘Shannon” today! About the Illinois Terminal Railroad’s #1595, the following info is in the Museum’s booklet “Collection Highlights”: “Featuring a four-truck articulated design which permitted safe weight distribution on bridges and enabled it to negotiate tight curves on in-city streets...” So you were correct!Thanks for a nice collection of photos! A nice mix of standard an narrow gauge!
Chesapeake and Ohio Railway #2727, built by ALCO 1944.
Boston & Providence Railroad "Daniel Nason".It was built between 1858 and 1863 by the Boston & Providence Railroad in its Roxbury, MA, shop.
Right then Leon-lets have another of those bottomless draughts (there is a joke in there somewhere but I can`t be bothered to look ) and a round for the boys please-we have Jimmie Rodgers and the like on the juke-lets have a few pix
Here we have the Glyn Valley Tramway`s 0-4-2t " Sir Theodore" with some very stroppy looking Welshmen-N.B-one of the 2-tone coaches is still in use on the Tal-Y -Lyn
A Serene & Delightful interlude-the S&D museum site on the West Somerset line-at the top we have one of the "big girls"-somewhat stripped down,and in the bottom pair some typical rolling stock
Back to the Emerald Isle here-top two show the mid morning Dublin-Rosslare Europort service at Rosslare strand stn,lower two show the station area -left looking north-the Waterford branch diverges to the left,and south on the right-a delightful little stn-would make a highly modellable 2nd stn for a small layout....
Back to Aber once again...Top two-#7 Owain Glendwr (currently out of service ) works the morning train-- bottom two #10 switches some coaches whilst Owain takes water at the shed-the former std gauge shed
More of the same here:-top the Prince blows down the draincocks on a cold but bright spring morning-note the spur from the run-round still in place,bottom left-#8.Llewellyn at Devils Bridge wearing Cambrian Rly Greeny-Black-Bottom right #10 sets up a MoW train at Aber.
Right chaps thats me sliding off the seat-see you all soon-be lucky
Well good evening one & all-in the words of the,sadly,very mortal Ronnie Van Zandt "Tuesdays gone"-and very pleasantly it passed as well-have just spent a mellow and vinous evening up on the deck having a barbie for the aged parents and my favourite Aunt & Uncle ,who are celebrating their golden wedding anniversary-a fine time
Right then Leon-had best investigate the potential of this bottomless tankard idea-Carling for me tonight please-and sort out a rack for the chaps as well please-top man
Straight into it tonight-much requiring comment.............
ERIC-I believe the design behind the Q1`s was purely `no-frills`,bare minimum wartime economy-don`t think the boiler barrel was square-assume it was the cladding-tho Bulleid`s pacifics were also square in profile,as was the 0-6-6-0 turf-burner he designed for the Irish railways-pix to follow-and all his work featured `off the wall` elements,so anything is possible....
The Wantage tramway ,like all roadside tramways over here,required that locomotives should always have the cab at the leading end and have fully enclosed wheels and motion,leading to some quite bizarre designs
A top-drawer set of American `Classic` pix from you-10-wheeler,E8A,Light pacific & boxcab-does anybody know why the boxcab has doubled-up trucks ?-my guess is that it is to reduce axle loading for running on streetcar and interurban lines-any takers ???
TOM-As a perennial underachiever myself,todays Yogi-ism is close to my heart-in all it`s grammatically mangled splendour
Regarding digi-cameras,I wouldnt be without one now,not least `cos you can snap everything a dozen times,keep the best one and at no cost-a result for the man on a tight budget-no more point,press & pray for me
As to track planning `ware-I would recommend you try the Atlas R.T.S freeware-it has more functions than I can list here (including footprints for a large range of buiding kits) and is painlessly easy to use-not sure how easy it is to transfer finished plans-but I am sure to a man with your `puter savvy ..........also,as the name implies,it`s free...my favourite price
The Bat-lady (Hehehehehe) -With 4 brothers (and a sister) she can punch well above her weight -you should see her in the Bat-mobile,the family myth is that she inherited her technique from her mother,a native of Stuttgart,who,the legend suggests,learned to drive on a mk4 Panther tank and regards things like speed limits as suggestions rather than rules........
F-units--I have models of F2,3,7,FP7 & F9 and the differences between the 7`s & 9`s are almost negligable to the non rivet counter
Tui-As we speak,H&H are stripping off the heavy guns from the `Draig Goch` and fitting long range fuel tanks ready for a trip down under-watch this space.....likewise the O`Shaunnessy bros........
Thanks for the Dakota link-was sure I had heard P&W plant in that context
Whilst on links-excellent Singing brakeman stuff-Waiting for a train is a beaut!-especially liked granma in her rocking chair
The playing in Train whistle blues is exemplory-as is the slideshow...tried noodling along to the lyric of the latter with my old Framus before watching the links and it kept turning into Folsom Prison Blues-wonder if thats where the man in black got the tune from.....?
The colour pic with T/W blues looks spookily like the only picture I have ever seen of Robert Johnson........
Mockingbird/Dove-If Shane says its a dove......................
SHANE-Funny you should mention Yak suprise-as we speak Boris & Copperkettle are out `liberating` a 15` length of rail from the Can-Am MoW yard to use as a spit-I look forward to seeing them manoevre it back to base on Boris`s 650cc Cossack sidecar combo...
ROB-Keep yer head down there mate-last time I spoke to sis she said the heat/humidity combo was ready to cut loose in a big way-sounds like you are getting it-hang tough-thoughts are with you both
PETE-Yes indeed,the VoR locos suit brunswick green-as is only right and proper for Swindon machines with Swindon fittings-that said,the Prince carries the dark red well.....The original Davies & Metcalfe pair wore a slightly lighter green with heavy black & yellow lining and looked very well in it-of course the story that the Prince is a rebuild of the old #2 is a well established scam-rather like the contemporary one that suggests that Prince Harry is related to Prince Charles in any way (whoops-treason ) -If I am not about tomorrow it`s cos I have been dragged off to the tower for beheading.....
Sorry you had a bad bat experience-they are actually quite cute little things that have had a lot of bad press (unlike the Spice Girls..)
Look forward to seeing the new Midland mainline livery-I rather liked the tan/green -they seem to be plumbing new depths ...
Now-Irish band-The Mentor County Playboys-Yourself-Bodrhan & percussion,TOM -guitar & Bozouki,SHANE-Mandolin & Penny whistle,ERIC-fiddle & pipes-ALL-4 part harmony vocals-will join you on the double bass as & when appropriate--I can hear it now-Wild Rover,Masheen Durkin,The wild colonial boy,Whiskey in the jar,The leaving of Liverpool......Mmmmmm-let the Guinness flow
Right-time to post whilst I go and raid the archives (or pass out-whichever happens sooner)
ttfn
A pint of Bathams mild please RUTH.
TOM Great to see your great photos from day three of Rendezvous III. After a hearty and good breakfast another great day. It seems every time we go to the MOT at Kirkwood things have changed with new attractions and improvements, it was really good to see a lot of people there the day we went. My first command the H.C. Pott. Wasn't the light great for taking photos at the MOT
It is just me, but seeing the photo of the four us we look like an Irish Folk band on tour. I wonder what Nick thinks; I would be the drummer I think.
Why is it I think Molly Throttlebottoms 'special event' will involve a very large quantity of gin increasing my bar tab. I don't know where she gets that size of bottles even BORIS struggles to take from the bar to her Learning Center.
I will have to look into a simple digital camera but I guess it is like mobile phones it is hard to just get a basic model; too many dials would only confuse me.
As soon as the foot is fully recovered I will be ready for a train ride and a visit to the Train Wreck.
Glad you enjoyed the photos.
Thanks for the link on the Dakotas. A nearby airport from where I used to live, Coventry used to fly Dakotas. Not sure if they still do.
Really enjoyed the Back n the Day #2 with the Singing Brakeman Jimmie Rodgers with the words to the songs and the great U-Tube videos 5X. How Jimmie done that steam whistle sound in the first one is fantastic and the slides in the second one are great too. What good words " But when a man gets the blues he grabs a train and rides"
NICK It is great that Vof R No 8 is to be returned to traffic in Brunswick Green, a colour that I think suits those engines especially with a copper cap to the chimney. Far better than the BR blue with the double arrow symbol that was imposed on them.
I think you are right about the XP64 cars. I think there was some detail difference with them and the production MK IIs in looks, but I can't think what it is at the moment.
Glad you enjoyed the photos, another good day weather wise at the museum. Have a look at the note I said to Tom about the group photo.
We had a bat in the house a few months back, the bride released it to the wild. My own close experience with a bat was not a happy one. A way from home to uptown Rugby was a back way that ran part way along the railway and then through two narrow tunnels that rejoiced in the name of ‘Ticklebelly Tunnels' owing to their lack of height. I was going through one on my push bike, which meant leaning right down over the handlebars when a bat game in the tunnel from the opposite direction, losing concentration I hit the tunnel wall, bounced off and it hit the other side finishing up in a pool of muddy water. No doubt the bat had found his bat mates and they were having a good laugh about it
Many thanks for the great photos. I don't think I have seen a photo of the double -ended engine and the cars on the Dublin and Bressingham Tramway before.
I have just seen a photo of the new livery for the HSTs that work on the Midland Mainline I think they are even more startling than the 455.
A photo of the Wantage Tramway locomtive 'Shannon'
Great words in describing young Rebecca.
ERIC I think it is going to take a lot more practice with the scanner to try to improve those slides, I managed to jam up my computer while experimenting, but the good news is while getting the original slides out I found some more in another box with a couple of reasonable ones from the South Wales trip and some slides that are pretty good.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos. I saw that Italian electric locomotive from the train when coming to Kirkwood for the Rendezvous, it had slipped my mind until I was on the platform at the museum that looks over the UP line and I remembered it. The same thought occurred to me when I saw where the loco came from; I bet it is an interesting story about the locomotive coming from Italy to a museum in Missouri.
Many thanks for the great photos at the museum. The ones inside the shed with the light on the other side of the engines are marvelous.
ROB Stay safe from that terrible weather you are having up there. Looking forward to your visit to the bar when you can.
CM3 Great to see you in the bar it sounds a real busy time at work.
YAK surprise at the Darts Tourney, I wonder what would be the best ale to go with it.
Love listening in to the Baseball talk.
Well RUTH a round please while I load up some photos.
It's a good day when our Resident WVA Connection stops by . . . doesn't matter what the time, just as long as we get those quarters ‘n a ROUND!
Story of the front porch "she birds" - Seveal years ago when we first became aware that our front porch pillars were being used for nesting by birds, we had a neighbor lady come by and she noticed the nests (there were three back then!). Anyway, I referred to the birds as "Doves" and she PROMPTLY corrected me - sortalikeinahuff - informing me that those birds were north American Mocking Birds! As the years passed, and we began to have more opportuties to speak with our "birdologist" she wanted to know if she could take fotos for whatever "bird journel" her club is associated with. "Of course," said we and we heard no more of it.
Not that long ago, this SAME individual wished us a HAPPY Memorial Day! <recall my rant over that one > Anyway, here's the deal - I still believe those birds are indeed Doves - did then 'n do now. Having Shane vindicate my position makes me want to "confront" the jerk . . . but I won't. <grin> Just had to yield to the "authority" who is unyielding in her position <on this 'n virtually everything else!> So, let's say they are GIRL-BIRDS!
Means a lot when our regulars keep me in the know!
And now . . .
(136) That's Skipper Pete in command of the towboat H.C. Pott!
(137) DC-3/C-47A <after wings were removed, it was delivered to MoT by helicopter!>
(138) Towboat H.C. Pott
(139) Chicago, Illionois Midland #551 Mikado 2-8-2 <built in 1928 by Lima>
(140) Sabine River & Northern #408 Model NC <built in 1937 by EMC - 900 hp, Winton 201-A>
(141) Saint Louis-San Francisco <FRISCO> #1621 Decapod 2-10-0 <built in 1918 by Baldwin - originally 5' gauge for Russia; converted to 4' 8 ½ ">
Good afternoon Barkeep and all present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox. This has been a wild week so far with heat, heat, and more heat. Then we have lots of stuff going on at work. Already know I will not be posting tomorrow and Friday doesn't look a whole lot better. The it is supposed to quiet down after that.
Lets see - there's a lot of stuff as we are going back to last week.
DL was by with historic information, preservation materials and comments.
Pete was in with comments and pictures.
Fergie stopped by, too.
Allan visited - we could enjoy some cooler weather right now.
Nick - Ladders - gotta love ‘em. I'm sure you had that planned all the way - just like I did one time. Your menu with wild boar pate reminds me of something we did awhile back for the Darts Tourney where we featured whole roasted boar, whole roasted ox, while roasted sheep and Maalox. Maybe this year we'll whip up a batch of Yak Surprise! Tomatoes (aka "maters" in this part of the world are not a good idea here at the moment. T'aint no mockingbird, it's a mourning dove (female at that).
Eric is favoring us with pictures and talk - you'd like it up here right now except that ours is most definitely a dry heat.
Rob - Good selection of pictures ON, OS greater Winnipeg Water District (one of my all time favorite road names - right up there with Quebec, North Shore and Labrador. Somehow I don't define progress as ripping up rails, paving the area, and building a casino. I-90 is full of casino buses when we travel that way.
OSP has a nice cut of a PA at the top of his posts. Track cleaning solves many problems - actually, running frequent trains helps as well. Just supports what I told you, "Layouts only act up when there are visitors present." Nice pictures of both the Chaleur and the Eagle. Appreciated your ad selection as well - travel posters and timetable covers. Nice set of WP material; I especially liked the shot of the VO1000 (railroad's answer to a four stacker). Jimmy Rodgers as well. I'm ready to see the ‘moom pichers. Stratton story is a classic.
As for Ol' Diz what can we say? Diz and Yogi attended English classes at the same school. Remember when Diz was broadcasting for the Cards when they were on KMOX and one could hear them east of the Big River. Diz yells, "A triple, he's safe! He slud into third and beat the tag!" One of my favorite stories is when he pitched the first game a double header (remember those?) and won. His brother Paul pitched the second game and got the win with a no hitter. Diz said during an interview, "If I'd known he was going to pitch a no hitter, I would have, too!" The thing is that he probably could have done. He was never the same after Earl Averill hit him in the foot with a line drive - messed up his pitching mechanics. BTW, had lunch today with a transplanted New Yorker who was talking about going to Ebbets Field back in the long ago - good stuff.
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