Back in for a nightcap Leon,I'll let you choose the poison. So figured I'd pop in with a couple photo's to tantilize the troops with,hopefully a bit for everyone
Some of the old and some of the new. GO train comming into Burlington West Lead by old F7APU 905 but pulling the new bilevel cars.
For Pete a Goderich and Exeter GP9 at Stratford Ontario.This is in it's original for the GEXR paint scheme,you can almost make out the lcoomotives name on the cabside. Nowaday's the GEXR is run by Rail America/Rail Link so any and everything runs on it.
An Onr SD40-2 in North Bay for Nick
Ex CN SW1200RS in the John Street yard ( Hamilton Ontario ) going about the daily switching chores,and getting ready to head upto Stelco , Dofasco,and National Steel car amoung others.
Another switching pair in the John Street yard a Railink GP and an old TR2 calf that migrated north from the US.
enjoy
Rob
Good evening Leon,I think just a Keith's tonight for me. I'll leave a twenty to cover a round looks like Nicks Century note's finally dried up. Speaking of up we'll have to be on the lookout for that Zep drop. Seems the Mentor air station picked up something wierd on the radar, and they may scramble the jet ( that is if they can get it down off it's pylon )
Tom-A fine reminicence of the history of model trains. I've always enjoyed that piece and I'm glad to see it again Good to know that Juneau is keeping you on your exercise regimen
Great MOT shots,I have to aggree with Nick the left seat occupant isn't too hard on the eyes,she must be one of The Ladies of Perpetual Motion, I'm assuming they were chapparoning you lot while you were there.<grin>Great just in time shot of that freight ( and he says he's not a railfan )
The new stools seem to be a hit,and hey the one's marked "H" and sit on ,on pain pain of death unless you are an "H" are indeed a testiment to the craftmanship. they must ahve been made by IKEA
Pete-More wonderfull steam sir interesting info on the colour coding of the English steam. Seems to be alot of work to do it that way,but interesting nonetheless.Those Farnborough airshows were the stuff of legends for many decades. Are they still going on do you know ?
Nick-Loved the UK train ads. Like Tom I'd hate to think what prices some of that stuff would go for now,I'm thinking it would cost several vital organs and one's first born.Great story about that Sunderland pilot,looks like the aircraft stories and pictures just won't die off quite yet.
Lets just hope that those 60's skirts and boots are not being worn by the folks that originally bought them.Or emulated by H&H Have fun at the festival though,the pictures should prove interesting at any rate
Right back again-looks like there has been a rush at the bar-Leon,another brown please ,a Keiths for the Guvnor and a large Stolichnya vodka for Herr Vulf ( as he is known in the seedy nightspots of Prague & Leipzig ).....
TOM-Apologies for leaving you sitting there all alone-it`s a time zone thing.......Another fine `set` from the MoT-that street car is a fine looking piece (as is the sweetie in the front left seat-a streetcar called lust perhaps ? )-enough already-my fave is that chance shot of the U.P-with the framework of the vintage stock & the greenery in the foreground-couldn`t plan a shot like that in ten years of trying -competition standard mate -excellent !!!!!
Stealthy PETE-So,dentists trip tomorrow eh ? agency speak for " Well actually have to pop in for a bit of a de-brief with head of station about the current Mongolian crisis-terrible bore don`tcha know but the chaps in Whitehall think it may bear heavily on the South American situation..."
Meanwhile,back in the real world,-Thanks for confirmation of `Manor` details-now 90xx-Dukedogs ?,if so,suspect as a rebuilt Victorian design they had a much lighter `tread` -hammer blow and all that ,hence the yellow bracket.....?
Is due to be a vintage car element at our annual village festival fortnight this year (in association with the `Seafair` boat festival )-am hoping to get quite a few interesting shots-the Mess 3 -wheeler is up there with the Bond Bug & Bubble car as 60`s icons-hopefully there will be some mini skirts & kinky boots out & about as well -Same chap has a beautiful Triumph `21` with the full bathtub fittings)also in regular use ..
Now that You give the detail on the Derby lightweight,the original caption comes back-Bassenthwaite Lake it is -good call mate
Wonderful shots of the Southern at North Camp-Alan is resting a stones throw away and the family are still based in Farnborough,at least until we can persuade Elisabeth to move down here with us -nice breakdown on the BoB/WC distribution-hadn`t known that-another gap filled-another bullseye
General note-Seems like the waters are rising all across the mid-west-has even made the news over here-we have had up to 2 " of rain today-3 days before the solstice-I suspect,despite my natural optimism,that John Fogarty might be right-Bad Moon Rising -latest statistics tell me that gas prices have risen by 25 % in the last year,domestic fuel costs expected to rise by 40% by the end of the year,food prices---no-one is prepared to comment-I begin to think we may be entering a period of extreme change -Interesting Times as the ancient Chinese curse would have it-batten down the hatches folks-here is where it starts................Ragnarok (look it up )
On which happy note.........
Not sure if I will be about tomorrow-Elisabeth due for a weeks visit,band practice, etcetera-provision has been made-Copperkettle and the girls have the menu,Boris is due to be sent out for left-handed skyhooks and a long stand (was done to me once-I WILL get even...) so normal service should be available....
Be both lucky & happy -Leon-get a bottle of the good stuff out and pass it around
Speak soon
<from ExpoRail railway museum - personal foto>
G'day Gents!
Continuing on with my evening acknowledgments, for the ‘morrow is yet another early start for a busy morning ‘round here!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Wednesday - June 18th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 42 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:20 AM: I'm sure you wudda stayed ‘til the last basket had game 6 been a "normal" contest. But the Celts surely made a laffer outta it, eh Some luminaries in the house - enjoyed seeing Hondo ‘n Russ on the tube. Heard Jo Jo White was there as well, but I don't recall seeing him . . .
All I can offer regarding Cards-Sox this weekend is if one wants to watch that kinda stuff - go to spring training! These inter league games are sure-fire-killers for division races. <barf> Enuf already!
Trains to Chitown are halted because of UP work - the Eagle still is running but on an alternate route - doesn't make stops between Chicago ‘n St. Louis. Trains to/from KCity are still running. That's it for us - we're a rather small Amtrak market insofar as numbers of trains go. Also read that Amtrak trains going west out of Chitown are experiencing big time interruptions due to the heavy flooding situation in the Midwest . . .
That particular Missouri senator is known for being a headline grabber - she's a first termer, enamored with the Dem candidate ‘n rumored to be on his VP list . . .anyway, she told the InBev moguls to "show me" when it came to their promises to keep things the way they are or even better "when" the buy out AB. Said "we" don't want you ‘n we don't need you. Tuff talk from her - she used to be our state Auditor, at which I think she did a fantastic job. But as a senator <barf> - she's "in" over her head in my not so humble OH-PIN-YUN.
So, you "got" one of the spike barrels - no extra charge for the "massage"! <grin>
Juneau is watching the sky for the Zep drop! <bow wow>
Many thanx for the chat, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 42 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:29 AM: You're everywhere these days <daze> - trying to make up for lost time, eh Well, you're doing just fine, Mate - doing just fine! Problem is: just when we get used to having you ‘round - off you go . . . <groan> Such is life in the fast lane!
My problem with basket ball is that the game has passed me by. Meaning, I just am not "into" the way it is played these days <daze>. It's a far cry from when I was a youngster ‘n oh so different from even 22 years ago when the Celtics won their 16th championship. Of course we can blame it all on my favorite word - CHANGE. As Mike Keenan used to say when he coached the Blues, "embrace change." Well, I have a difficult time putting my arms around the behavior I witness in many pro athletes in these times. "Thugs ‘n muggers" would be easier to embrace . . . <barf>
Yeah, I'm ready for HOCKEY! Just as long as the outdoor temps are where the ice temps are!
Spice Girls flashlight Hmmmmm.
Juneau is off to a good start on his ‘versry day - two brisk mile-plus walks <thus far> ‘n treats as well. Spoiled Ha!
As Manager, it is YOUR duty to keep the H&H gals OFF of our refurbished stools! <geesh> I had two made up with extra-strength shock absorbers - one marked "H" ‘n the other marked . . . . "H." Hmmmmmm. Ah, but the letters were in German! <huh?>
One never really knows about our Sandman - if he sez they were gold, I'll believe it! The guy is uncanny when it comes to being on the money. But yeah, he probably was in a private car - perhaps the Swedish Bikini Team <pant> <pant>
The only thing that could possibly thrive inside Pete's black bag would be his hands - which are constantly in it!
Many thanx for stopping by ‘n providing us with your good cheer commentary!
Page 42 - Pete <pwolfe> at 6:37 PM: No worries regarding the Missouri River levels - nothing at all to compare with the floods of 1993. That year the Big Muddy was indeed an issue - it was at all-time high levels and so was the Mississippi. This year it's just the Mighty Miss causing the grief . . . the St .Louis expected level will be 10 feet BELOW those of 1993 . . .
While there were some super fine models around "back in the day," my guess is they weren't available to the working stiffs . . . pretty much for the gentry. Then along came mass production ‘n we can see the benefits in terms of the detailing. Yeah, they'd be amazed. I've seen some trains that looked as real as could be - Lionel's Hudson comes to mind. But try to purchase one today - even back then it was outta sight for the average guy. Ain't that always the way
That water main was at the bottom of our hill - far enough from our home not to create any anxiety other than wondering how long the water would be shut off. Turned out it was less than 2 hours before they restored our portion of the line. Others at the bottom of the hill were out of service throughout the night and into early morning . . . cudda been far worse.
Enjoyed the foto spread - thanx - those steamers are terrific to look at! Luv the middle shot!
"Late in" tomorrow, eh Can't be much later than today, eh <grin>
By the by, my Amtrak tix arrived on Tuesday . . . I'm ready, are you
Appreciate the inclusive, informative ‘n interesting Post along with the ROUND ‘n pint for Moi!
Page 42 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:59 PM <12:59 AM Thursday GMT>: An outstanding complement ‘n compliment to our weekly Toy ‘n Model Trains Day <aka: Pike Perspective Day> with those wunnerful Brit trains from the catalogs of old. Many thanx for them AND the effort in putting together the descriptions!
Those Tri-ang RDCs look terrific! Bet they command quite a price these days <daze>, eh Also luv the look of the Brit Rail coaches <sweet>!
Glad you found your stool to your liking! Yeah, definitely has a "connection" to the Volvo engineering department. You know the one - owned by Ford of the U.S.A. <that's for Eric!!>
Siberian Husky sends many thanx for the red meat - something he's NEVER had - seriously! Poor guy was in dire straits as a pup with an intestinal problem that almost had him put to sleep. Was a tough six months start for him . . . to this day he's pretty much on a very closely monitored diet of dry dog food, a raw apple slice now ‘n then and get this - a handful of Cheerios when we see "signs" of problems. Anyway, it's the thought that counts! <woof> <grin>
Whilst you were experiencing a rather grim day, we in mid-continent USA had a glorious one. Temps are still in the comfort-zone - which at this time of year is amazing! "They" say we should be close to or above 100 (F) at month's end. <yikes> Say it isn't so!! <groan>
Beer is good - ‘n as Pete said, especially when someone else is buying! Thanx, Mate!
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Tom
Well good evening and happy hump day to one and all (please intepret that as the mood takes you ) and felicitations to the Haus-hound :- one large bowl of finest raw steak coming right up,courtesy of the galley
Now then-this is an uncommonly fine looking stool,and exceedingly comfortable toboot-the heated cushion is a splendid innovation (you can tell we have a Volvo owner amongst our number ),the support harnesses are perfectly adjusted and the general standard of finishing harks back to the craftsmanship of a bygone era-a Pullman amongst stools !!!!!!!
Before I get stuck in,lets have some beer !!! -It`s been a foul weather day here ,so I think dark ales and winter warmers are the way to go tonight-I`ll take a Newcastle brown please Leon and line `em up for the boys-better have those trays of hot`n`spicy tapas thingies that I knocked up this afternoon as well please--good man !
First off-ROB-thanks for the full & frank disclosure on my various questions -As a final departure on air-related topics,our local rag carried a feature today on an award made to a Kiwi pilot from the Sunderland flying boat squadron based in the Haven during WW2-he brought his bird home,but so badly shot up that she would have sunk as soon as she touched down.
Undeterred,our intrepid hero brought her in on a local coastal command airfield,carving a substantial furrow in the turf next to the runway and achieved the only successful `dry` landing on record-all the crew walked away from it as well--Job done,no worries .
O.K-Lets drag ourselves back in the general direction of `On Topic` () :-
So-TOM has set the ball in play with an overview of the history of toy/model trains so lets run with the ball and have a look at some samples from the `shop window` of the model world-that universal source of youthful desire-the catalogue (no boris ,NOT Victoria`s Secret-that occurs later on the developmental curve...)
Here are a few pages from some Brit examples:-
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First off we have an example from the Hornby-Dublo empire (circa 1962) Frank Hornby`s products-initially in `O` gauge,clockwork & electric,were the post-war Brit `standard` marque-with the growth of the industry and the reduction of house sizes the company introduced the `OO` (double O or Dublo) range -4mm/ft scale-a compromise on the more accurate `HO` to allow the bulky motors of the time to fit into the restricted Brit loading gauge -initially produced as 3-rail with all metal construction they sold like hot cakes and some very fine models were produced,especially near the end. The death-knell for the company was the introduction of the Rovex (later Tri-Ang ) range of injection moulded plastic models at a fraction of the cost-these also ran on far more realistic 2-rail track, Hornby fought back with a 2-rail range (shown here ) and Super-Detail rolling stock but too much ground had been lost-the two ranges had non-compatible coupling systems etc and by the mid `60`s the brand was moribund
Here is a page from the `62 Tri-Ang offering-The astute Lines Brothers (hence the name-3 lines make a TRI-ANGle ) were ,in addition to a fast developing domestic range ,also producing the Transcontinental range for export to the Commomwealth-this range as well as the T/C brand were also available in country-specific liveries ( I.E- C.N & C.P)
Here is another page from the same edition-this range is currently quite sought after by collecters despite the very coarse scale wheels etc,which restrict its potential usefulness ( requires about code 120 rail-as did the entire output from that time)
Moving on to 1970,the Hornby brand name has now been aquired (with the die-cast engines and the best of the super-detail wagons being produced in collaberation with G.R.Wrenn and distributed under the Tri-Ang/Wrenn marque)-wheel standards and track have now fined down to code 100 standards and the company are riding the crest of the wave. As previously noted,the RS624 set was my introduction to the hobby,and 38 years on #27 is still in regular employment,as is her train
From the same year,a Southern pair-#328 was my 2nd engine (long ago sold-still mourned ) and I now have an updated version of the BoB pacific-the lurid malachite livery is actually not far off accurate
This page is just a part of the passenger range available at the time-my first cars were the mail van and the composite,bought by generous relatives and cheerfully accepted by my 10 year old self despite the glaring incongruities-the coaches ran with #328 plus a G.W brake van and #27 had her own 3 wagons plus a bogie bolster (flat car) a Shell tank car and a wooden bodied open -I have since aquired multiple examples of everything on this page but have yet to recapture the pure magic of those first two trains..........................
O.K-There`s six of the best (as my old Headmaster used to say after our regular & painful interactions ) lets get this posted and see where the muse takes us,back in a bit
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
NICK Yes the Manors were designed for the lighter laid Great Western lines like the ex Cambrian lines in Mid Wales. The GWR had a code for the lines their locos could work on based on axle weight. This appeared on the locomotive cab sides in the form of a coloured circle. They ranged from Double Red for the ‘Kings' to Yellow with small tank engines, locomotives having no code meant they had more or less unrestricted access to the GWR lines. The rest of the GW 4-6-0s were coded Red apart from the Manors which were coded Blue. I noticed the 90XX class of 4-4-0s was coded yellow.
I would be good if you can get a photo of that Mess 3-wheeler, I remember seeing one owned by a local person many years ago.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. Making a legend for Karla from one of Le Carre's excellent spy books, made I thinking about an alto ego that takes better photos. Perhaps one day we can get DL Alan and I to meet you on the Severn Valley Railway, with pubs on the railway at both ends selling a range of real ales including Bathams it would be a great time.
Many thanks for the great old black & white photos. I wonder where ‘Gazelle' is now I think she was at the Army Museum of Transport in Beverly Yorks. before it sadly closed.
The Derby Lightweight unit with Penrith on the destination blind was on the Cockermouth Keswick & Penrith Railway I think. This scenic line through the Lake District ran alongside Bassenthwaite Lake for part of its length. The CK&P was one of the first lines to use the new DMUs from the mid 1950s. The steam locos used for passenger trains in the later days were the LMS Ivatt class 2MT 2-6-0s.The line was host to a portion of the Lakes Express in steam days, I believe a summer only train, that ran from London Euston, often ‘Duchess' hauled hading over to a smaller loco at Penrith.I think that as well as the CK&P part there was portions for Barrow in Furness and Carlisle.
ROB Many thanks for the information on the aircraft in your photos and the FP7s.
Glad you liked Alan's photos
Yes indeed it sounds as though you had a great time at the Air Show. It brought back memories, although a bit hazy now of going to the Farnborough Air Show in the mid 1960s with an uncle who lived not far from Farnborough.
Many thanks for today's great photos.
ERIC Many thanks for the offer of the farewell dinner photos.
Thanks for the URL to Ernst Uber, he was very lucky to survive that crash in 1937 and he must have been a very able pilot.
Yes those German locomotives certainly give an impression of power. I sometimes wish that after the end of BR steam on the main line I had done what some of my friends did and travel to Germany to photograph the last days of steam there,Although some of their trips in to what was then East Germany, although with permits, were a bit hairy.
Thanks for the kinds words on the photo of 5231 hiding in the steam; it is one of my favorites.
Great detail on the ex RDC # 403.
CM3 Hope you have not blown my cover with the bat-operated camera, not that it matters much, as the satellite transmitter experiment in my flat cap as been deemed a failure and the grant as been withdrawn.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos, yes the German 4-6-2 is a good looking locomotive.
Thanks for the round.
TOM Happy Anniversary day to Mascot #1 Juneau.
It would be great to go to the Barriger Library again and check those 1955 CN trains, but with so much great railroad reading there it could take many hours.
Had a look at the Missouri River last evening and it was really high and moving real fast but still in the banks, I think it is due to crest here tomorrow.When the Missouri meets the already really high Mississippi it could be a worrying time in St Louis. Giving good thoughts for those folk near the rivers.
Real glad your water pipe burst did not cause any damage to you or your neighbors.
Glad you liked Alan's photos, he is on his travels at the moment.
Many thanks for the Toy and Model Trains Day post on the history and the different gauges of the toy railroads, well worth seeing and reading againTo think it was way back in 1897 that the first electric trains appeared. I wonder what people from 1900 would think if they could see the detail that is produced on today's model railroad equipment.
Some of Alan's or Secret Agent XXX photos, which ties in with the war planes. The locomotive is the ex Southern Railway Battle of Britain class 4-6-2 No 34067 Tangmere, a Battle of Britain airfield.These locos, a lighter version of O.V.S. Bullied's Merchant Navy class, had chain driven valve gear and an 'Air Smoothed' casing mainly, I have read, to allow the locos to be cleaned in the carriage washers. About half the class of 110 locos were rebuilt in BR days without the casing and with Walschaerts valve gear. In the later years the original locos worked the lines west of Exeter as some of the lines were banned to the heavier rebuilds
The members of the class working on the SR West Country lines were named after West Country Towns and Cities and the ones working the Kent Lines were named after Squadrons, Airfields and people involved in the Battle Of Britain.
The tour was named 'The Cathedrals Express' and ran from London to Winchester via a circular route on December 18th 2007. In this photo the train is at North Camp on the line from Guildford to Wokingham on the Reading line.
This shot could be at the end of Southern steam on BR. 34067 at Eastleigh, the site of the London & South Western Railway locomotive works. The line heading straight on is for Southampton and the line heading off to the left is for Fareham and Portsmouth.
A 'steamy' view of 34067 at Eastleigh.
Well LEON I am running late againso a round please.. May be late in tomorrow as I have a Dentist visit.
TOM Just seen you in the bar, have a pint while I read your post and have a look at the photos
Pete.
I've been waiting for someone to come by . . . no one has! So, here goes - Posting to myself <again> Did see Wolfman logged in for most of the afternoon
Continuing on with Rendezvous III fotos . . . Rule of Six suspended <by one>!
NOTE: Day Three at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <MoT, Kirkwood> . . .
"Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous III - St. Louis, MO 2008 - Day Three
(170) St. Louis Waterworks Railway double-ended interurban #10 <built in 1914 by St. Louis Car Co.> <that's Stealthy Pete "sneaking" up the stairs!>
(171) Interior of Car #10 - that's Wolfman ‘n Shane taking it easy!
(172) "Action shot" of an eastbound UP freight on the mainline adjacent to the MoT! Just caught it by chance . . .
(173) The tram to the MoT miniature railway
(174) Our train awaits!
(175) INCOMING, PORT SIDE! <yikes>
(176> It's one of OURS! <phew>
More to follow . . .
Juneau is watching the sky! Good to see the daylite activity 'round here again - thanx to CM3 Shane 'n Rob, we're having some fun again!
Appears that it's time again to drag something out for our Wednesday OP-SHUN-UL Toy 'n Model Trains Day! Here's something from the archives . . .
OPTIONAL Toy 'n Model Trains Day!
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Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Toy train A toy train is a toy that represents a train, distinguished from a model train by an emphasis on low cost and durability, rather than scale modeling. A toy train can be as simple as a pull toy that does not even run on track, or it might be operated by clockwork or a battery. Many toy trains blur the line between the two categories, running on electric power and approaching accurate scale. Standards The first widely adopted standards for toy trains running on track were introduced inLeipzig, Germany in 1891 by Märklin. Name . . . . . Width . . . . . Width . . . . . size . . . . . . . . . . Comments gauge . . . . . (metric) . . . . (imperial) Number 5 . . . . 120 mm . . . 4 in 5/8" . . . 1:8 . . . . . . . . . . Also known as V Gauge. Number 4 . . . . . 75 mm . . . 3 in. . . . . . 1:11 or 1:20 . . . . Also known as IV or 3 gauge. Measurement is sometimes also quoted at 2 15/16 in.
Number 3 . . . . . 67 mm . . . 2 5/8 in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . also known as III, II, IIa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . gauges Number 2 . . . . . 54 mm . . . 2 1/8 in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . also known as II gauge. Number 1 . . . . . 45 mm . . . 1 ¾ in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Also known as I gauge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Used by modern G scale. Number 0 . . . . . 35 mm . . . 1 3/8 in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Introduced later, around 1900. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . This is modern O gauge. Märklin measured the gauge as the distance between the centers of the two outer rails, rather than the distance between the outer rails themselves. Lionel's Standard gauge is allegedly the result of Lionel's misreading these standards, as are the variances in O gauge between the United States and Europe. Most of these standards never really caught on, due to their large size, which made them impractical to use indoors, as well as the high price of manufacturing. Wide gauge trains, which are close in size to 2 gauge, are produced in limited quantities today, as are 1 gauge and O gauge trains. Of these, O gauge is the most popular.
An O gauge Marx toy train set made in the late 1940s or early 1950s. GNU Free Documentation The modern standards for toy trains also include S gauge, HO scale, N scale, and Z scale, in descending order of size. HO and N scale are the most popular model railway standards of today; inexpensive sets sold in toy stores and catalogs are less realistic than those sold to hobbyists. O gauge arguably remains the most popular toy train standard. Another size that is attracting interest among hobbyists is building and operating trains from LEGO, or L gauge, which is roughly 1/38 scale. Although the words "scale" and "gauge" are often used interchangeably, toy train manufacturers have only recently concerned themselves with accurate scale. The terms "O scale" and "S scale" tend to imply serious scale modeling, while the terms "O gauge" and "S gauge" tend to imply toy trains manufactured by the likes of Lionel and American Flyer. While S gauge is fairly consistent at 1:64 scale, O gauge trains represent a variety of sizes. O gauge track happens to be 1/45 the size of real-world standard gauge track, so manufacturers in Continental Europe have traditionally used 1:45 for O gauge trains. British manufacturers rounded this up to 1:43, which is seven millimeters to the foot. U.S. manufacturers rounded it down to 1:48, which is a quarter-inch to the foot. However, most engaged in a practice of selective compression in order to make the trains fit in a smaller space, causing the actual scale to vary, and numerous manufacturers produced 1:64 scale trains-the proper size for S gauge-in O gauge, especially for cost-conscious lines. Some of the earliest O gauge trains made of tinplate weren't scale at all, made to unrealistic, whimsical proportions similar in length to modern HO scale, but anywhere from one and a half to two times as wide and tall. Some adult fans of toy trains operate their trains, while others only collect. Some toy train layouts are accessorized with scale models in an attempt to be as realistic as possible, while others are accessorized with toy buildings, cars, and figures. Some hobbyists will only buy accessories that were manufactured by the same company who made their trains. This practice is most common among fans of Marx and Lionel. History
Toy trains can be enjoyed by both children and adults. (Fair Use) The earliest toy trains date from the 19th century and were often made of cast iron. Motorized units running on track soon followed, powered by a steam or clockwork engine. Some of these trains used clever methods to whistle and smoke. Toy trains were revolutionized when Märklin, a German firm that specialized in doll house accessories, sought to create an equivalent toy for boys where a constant revenue stream could be ensured by selling add-on accessories for years after the initial purchase. In addition to boxed sets containing a train and track, Märklin offered extra track, rolling stock, and buildings sold separately, creating the predecessor to the modern model train layout featuring buildings and scenery in addition to an operating train. Electric trains followed, with the first appearing in 1897, produced by the U.S. firm Carlisle & Finch. As electricity became more common in the early 20th century, electric trains gained popularity and as time went on, these electric trains grew in sophistication, gaining lighting, the ability to change direction, to emit a whistling sound, to smoke, to remotely couple and uncouple cars and even load and unload cargo. Toy trains from the first half of the 20th century were often made of lithographed tin; later trains were often made mostly of plastic. Prior to the 1950s, there was little distinction between toy trains and model railroads-model railroads were toys by definition. Pull toys and wind-up trains were marketed towards children, while electric trains were marketed towards teenagers, particularly teenaged boys. It was during the 1950s that the modern emphasis on realism in model railroading started to catch on.
CSX freight train emerging from a colorful truss bridge, one of many wooden toy trains offered by Whittle Shortline. (Wikimedia Commons) Consumer interest in trains as toys waned in the late 1950s, but has experienced resurgence since the late 1990s due in large part to the popularity of Thomas the Tank Engine. Today, S gauge and O gauge railroads are still considered toy trains even by their adherents and are often accessorized with semi-scale model buildings by Plasticville or K-Line (who owns the rights to the Plasticville-like buildings produced by Marx from the 1950s to the 1970s). Ironically, however, due to their high cost, one is more likely to find an HO scale or N scale train set in a toy store than an O scale set. Many modern electric toy trains contain sophisticated electronics that emit digitized sound effects and allow the operator to safely and easily run multiple trains on one loop of track. Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements.
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Enjoy! Tom
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Quick stop because I almost forgot that we will have a commemorative air drop of Milk Bones when the Zepp flies over Juneau's house; it is only fitting.
Have a good afternoon.
work safe
Morning Ruth,just the usual for me please the number three and the high octane BK blast !Lets see so much to do before I haed to the "mines" again. No Boris I don't need to borrow your Spice Girls flashlight it was just a figure of speach. Have you cleaned and waterd the zoo yet once you do I have that small jar of PPF for you.
Eric-Thank's for the correction. Mixed up Aces eh Ill have to email that tidbit to the airshow commentator,and thenm try to figure out who's markings are on that plane
I'm sorry but in my humble opinion there is no such thing as a pleasant dry heat once any temp hit's 100+ It's just way to - - - - hot! Harvard's were common place just about everywhere during and after the war,they made thousands of them . Alot of which still fly ( helps when they didn't see combat onlt trainee pilots )Therer's a group in Woodstock Ontario ( about 40 minutes from me ) that have 15 of them all flyable and off all known marks. They do the airshow circut and do aerobatics in a four plane group.
I'm aggreeing with Tom, what a waste of an RDC. The cost of refurbing those power trucks to regular rolling passenger trucks would have been stupidly prohibitive. I'm sure they removed all the traction motors etc.Must have been some government money involved.
Yes those electric's would have started out in the first River tunnels from Sarnia and later were used on the Mount Royal tunnel electricfication in Montreal.
I'm not sure but I'm wondering if that Hellcat conversion was something that happened after the fact when that plane went into private hands.I can't say as I've seen or read of any factory built trainers like that,mind you it is a possibility. The UK converetd many older spitfires to two seaters for advanced training,a couple still surviveand fly in England. I aggree with you re odd rail equipment and either 1. really really bad weather or lighting or 2. no camera. I'll keep that photo,I've fixed it up as best I could but it is a keeper.You are right I've seen much worse ( took many worse one's myself )
Tom-Happy of sorts to our chief mascot Juneau Extra walks and treats today I assume.One question about the stoll refurbuishing,are the in seat massage units and heaters really necessary H&H seem to enjoy them way too much. I mean we hardly get enough work out of them now.
I've yet to see gold fixtures in a regular puiblic railcar, maybe it was just paint,that or Eric somehow got into the Sultan of Bruni's private coach.
Yeah one more sport done means it's that much closer to hockey season.Seriously I'm not a B-ball fan but good on the Celtics they had a really good year.I'll see what I can do re train pics but hey it's neat to watch Boris where his tin hat and chase H&H around making plane noises and them cursing at him in German.
Shane-Scary thoughts that something live could be in Pete's bag,but to listen to the stories I've heard and read the thing does seem to be sentient.I hope you got the good gas to fill with before you head out for that Zep flight.Send Kopperkettle and H&H up first they are more likely to survive the bounce should it be Boris's blend in the airbags.The Card's Sox series should be interesting.I'll put my hard hat on though cause we know the Boss's feeling on the matter.
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Lovely day here with temps in the 50s, cloudless sky - let's test fly one of the Zepps. So the furniture is being refinished? Thought it was a bit strange when the bar stools were replaced with empty kegs and spike barrels - oh well, progress never stops.
Pete - Nice pictures. The last one of the 4-6-2 that Alan provided is a beauty! Also enjoyed the Great Central shot with the water tank in the background.
Nick - Yes, theological questions from a 7 yr. old. The tough thing is that they believe we know the answers.
I see where Rob answered our aircraft questions so I will save some bandwidth.
You didn't know that the bats in Pete's black bag operate the hidden camera?
Last the railcars on the Kent and East Sussex - probably what Mr. Toad would have operated had he not been infatuated with motor cars.
Eric - Enjoy the dry heat - I think.
OSP - C's win! C's win! The end of the game was way past my retiring time (love those 9:00 p.m. starts - but it is all about the money), but they were well ahead when I reached the end of my broadcasting day.
Cards play the Red Sox this weekend. You'll get to see Tim Wakefield, Dice-K, and Jon Lester pitch for the Bostons. Also see where the Metropolitans showed a lot of finesse and professionalism in changing their manager - geez!
News said that one of your senators is "fighting for the brewery."
Amtrak website said that a lot of service to the west from Chicago has been annulled for the foreseeable future. I know that UP is still doing track work in your area, but what about other service to and from St. Louis? Probably a day-to-day decision.
Thanks for the CN material with those lovely cars. Also thanks for setting me straight abt. VIA sleepers - rely on memory and look what happens.
Work safe
<VIA Rail's Evangeline Park car at Halifax station - personal foto>
Wednesday's Witticism
Don't fork a saddle if you're scared of getting' throwed
<a link: http://www.western-saddle-guide.com/saddle-fork.html>
Mid-week madness in mid-continent as "hump day" has arrived! Smack dab in the middle of the work week <for many> - so let's jump start the day with a mugga Joe, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n an order for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Anniversary Day! Juneau, "Our" Place's 1st mascot, turned 62 months old today!
SPORTS REPORT:
Hail to the Kings of Pro-Basketball - the Boston Celtics added their 17th Championship to their trophy case by trouncing the Lakers of Los Angeles in a game that was a rout, by any other description. Amazing display of offense ‘n defense when needed.
So, what do the Celtics and the Red Wings <NHL> have in common They BOTH had the best regular season records and went on the win their respective championships. When do you suppose that ever happened before
In a series that should be played as an exhibition, the Cardinals dropped a close one to their cross-state cousins from KCity. Don't know what it is, but the Royals have the Red Birds "number," for they play up to a higher level when facing St. Louis. Didn't watch very much of it, as I was glued to the tube with the round ball game!
Still detest the inter league nonsense - pretty much puts the brakes on the regular season, especially for the Cards who are in the hunt for their division lead. This stuff is sickening, absolutely sickening. I wouldn't go if the tix were given to me! Don't get me wrong, the Royals are our favorite AL team - BUT, it's the idea of inter league that turns me off, off, off . . .
Ahhhhh, got that off my chest! <again>
Comments from the Proprietor
Thanx to those of you who answered the call for some support over on "my other Thread!" And also for keeping the foto Posting to the vicinity of six per submission!
Keeping track!
216 fotos from my 2008 Canada Rail Odyssey . . . the end!
169 fotos from Rendezvous III
. . . more to follow!
Tuesday - June 17th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 42 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 9:12 PM <3:12 AM Wednesday GMT>: Our Mighty Man did it AGAIN - turned the Page to 42! Seems those fotos are doing it , eh Far better ‘n gobs ‘n gobs of narrative, sez Moi! Sooooooo, what's behind the curtain, Molly Ahhhhh, yes - a brand new STOOL trimmed in teak ‘n mahogany with an on board restraint system! <all the stools from the now-defunct Order of the Stools have been stripped, refinished ‘n placed back at the bar>
No doubt about it <doot aboot for Rob!> - if it's within one's capability to DO - do it! Tomorrow may NEVER come . . .
Page 42 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:21 PM: "In" with a fine < I3 > Post with a lot of info for the warplane enthusiasts! <grin> You've probably forgotten more than most will ever know about ‘em!
It's most definitely a "hot button" topic for our Resident Ontario Connection!
Tuesday - June 18th:
Page 42 - Rob <trolleyboy at 12:41 AM: In with a spate of six warplane continuation . . . hate to be a wet blanket, Mate - but it is TIME to get some TRAINS up there too! <geesh> We are after all a Classic Trains site . . . at least last time I looked! <zoom> <zoom> INCOMING! <uh oh>
Page 42 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2:04 AM: Many thanx for the offer of Rendezvous III <farewell ‘n awards dinner> fotos by Email! Some things we just have to keep out of the Ether . . . never know, do we
Golden faucet Hmmmmm, mine was standard alloy . . . gold . Some guys live right!
I'll yield to Rob with regard to your question . . . he's our on-board Canadian Railways Aficionado - I'm simply a newcomer when it comes to the history. Although, I will match my knowledge of VIA Rail with most . . .
Good of you to pick up on Ernst Udet - I was going to say something - but held off. <grin> Enjoyed the link!
Interesting shot of that truck . . . yeah, looks like an RDC unit, which makes it all the more puzzling regarding the conversion. Oh the expense! <ugh>
A super-fine < I3 > Post from our Sandman ‘n Resident NOCTURNAL Desert RETIRED Swede!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Leon, still awake keeping this place open! Number 3 special, please!
Another short day is gone. It seems like the days ar getting shorter all the time. Has anyone checked/timed the rotation speed of the earth?
Tom – Good news, I don’t have any more photos of converted RDCs! It is depressing to see them though. I took some photos at our farewell dinner. I’ll be happy to send copies to all participants via email. 82˚ F is not bad. We had a little bit warmer today, 113˚ F. My roomette was exactly as you described it. It was okay, we had the whole sleeper to ourselves. But the old C&NW sleepers (Lake Bluff plus two more) we had in Canada was much nicer. A wide bed, a sink with golden faucett, and a complete bathroom with shower. Real nice! Canadian National! 27 electrics! Are those the ones Rob has described being used in a tunnel (under a river) somewhere? The photo of the CN Transcontinental is really something else!! Wow!! Rob – Those were the last RDCs I have pictures of.
Thanks for the explanation of the color differences. I thought that was the case, something with the photos. There is no reason to get rid of the picture, the world is full of pictures with much worse colors! Much worse! So you better keep it as it is. It is a very good one! Hmm, I wonder if you have been with Tom too many times and days since you don’t like it hot? Did he brain wash you? But you are right, high humidity makes the heat much worse. 90˚ F in the old country feels almost like 110˚ F in Phoenix where we have a dry heat. More nice air show pictures! Ernst Udet was a WW I ace and did not fly any missions in WW II. The Bf 109 he flew before the war had a 1,560 hp V14 engine and he crashed it during a race in Geneva 1937. That plane was all red, see this link:http://www.aikensairplanes.com/carousel/caro_7104.htmThat Hellcat fighter turned trainer looks very strange with a nose wheel. Hellcat is one of my favorite WWII fighters. The Swedish Air Force had Harvards for training, called Sk 16, a very common sight when I grew up. Nice photos!!CM3 – Thanks for the round! Seven kinds of weather? At least it isn’t boring that way! We hit 113˚ F today and is supposed to do it again today (Wednesday) and Thursday. Pete – I am staying cool! The A/C is running at full blast both in the car and at home! To leave the camera at home or forget to bring it is a very effective way to see very rare railroad equipment! Some typical German locomotives in Alan’s pictures!! Class 03 is a lighter version of class 01. I have seen it in action with a long regular passenger train in Hamburg in the late 60’s! Beautiful! I like your photo of No 5231 with it hiding in the steam! Very good photo! Nick – You are right about Lydham Manor! She is shiny, sparkly clean! Who needs a mirror? I can understand why G.W. used standardised stuff building their locomotives. Makes everything so much cheaper and easier to maintain. At least to some extent. I knew I was right about the command structure! I know a commander when I see one! Very interesting pictures of (for me) unknown old equipment! #5 shown from both ends!
I have a feeling that those converted RDCs were used by Amtrak. Check the marking on this truck, Wash DC Lube 6-18-99. The truck looks like an original RDC truck.
Eric
Well howdy again there Leon,just back for a quick check in , gotta make sure that the track gangs are behaving seems they are. Looks as though Boris is entertaining them with his feats of strength again.I think one pint for the road then I'm off. getting a leg up on tomorrow ( today for me ) here are some more photo's from father's day weekend.
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One of Warplanes Fleet Cornell trainers built by Fleet Aerospace of Fort erie Ontario, this one is named the Sprirt of the fleet. Cornells were advnced trainers used for navigation training.
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One of Warplanes Harvards Buzzing the field.
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Same Harvard taxying back in
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The Hurricane being refueled,neat close up of the wing and 20mm cannons !
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The C45 Beechcraft Expediter taxying out for a hop. the expediters were used for meterolgical work some search and rescue and general feight and transport duties with the RAF and RCAF. One of the unsung workers of the airforce.
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The Spitfire and a 109 behaving themselves
Good evening Leon,looks like you've had a nice busy shift as well lots o cash in the ole tills tonight I think I'll have a quick Keith's while I collect my thoughts for this evening.
Shane-Sounds like yoi ahd the weather we had for the better part of a week. Not good but as long as the shack is still standing at teh end of it and everyone living in it's fine that's the main thing.Your right the BoB was shot with mostly Spanish owned Aircraft and they were the Merlin powered ones. apparently the spanich airforce bought the ME109 ( guess they liked how the German flown one's performed during the civil war )There was a shortage of Daimler power plants when the Spanich ordre was being produced so they outsorced to England a bought Merlin's for their aircraft.it's an odd combo with Spain flying one countries plane with the others engine while those two countries were at war with each other and they were neutral. Yes it's a hard to get your brain around it sort of affair. I've not had the pleasure of going to Geneseo.Every summer thouhg they bring the Belle and a few of their other aircraft up to Niagara Falls and fly them at the Russell Groups vintage warbird show. So I've seen the B17 do it's run up and take off,it is an awe inspioring sight,then so is watching the Lancaster fire up and go in Hamilton as well.Canadian Warplane Herritage's main mission is to show the aircraft that we fought with and used throughout the RCAF's existance.They have many jet aircraft on display as well,as well as all sorts of trainers bombers transports etc.Their next big push is to get the Bristol Bollingbrooke up and flying,it's another twin engine light bomber ( Canadian built Blenhiem MK IV )
Pete-More great photo's from Alan , loved the big German steam it looked like an absolute brute ! Glad you liked the aircraft shots,it was a wonderfull day out,lovely seeing all the sights and sounds of those great aircraft roaring by over head.
I think that it's safe to say that it's a good thing we were able to end Boris's heavier than air gas experaments. No small countrie will be lost by any accidental explosions of noxious fumes.
Tom-I hope you enjoyed your morning off,hopefully I did not cause too much of a sensory overload.I imagine that the MOT's funding is likely state or county driven given what you ahve said. The same level of funding is what has allowed Exporail to grow and expand as quickly as it has.In it's case it's a partial Federal ownership under the auspices of Parks Canada and some matching provincial funding and grants. Right now our museum only qualifies for Provincial,grants as we do not operate years round which is a prerequisite for Federal grants. Exporail gets around that stipulation by being partially owned by Parks Canada,which has it's pluse's and minus's.
Great info on the Canadian Passenger scene ( someone had to stay on topic. )I'm sure that the water rates will rise ours have somewhat,but at least in Brantford's case it was raised to offset the cost of a new water treatment facility on the Grand River.
Nick-You've been a busy boy today. Some great pictures,I must say that I loved the flying banana ! Kind of looks a bit like the Mckean rail cars used in some places over here.
Lets see answers to your questions. Go used Fp7's for teh opposite end of the train sets when teh GP40-2w's or the GP40-2tr's were in use. Since there were no cab control cars on the single level equipment. The FP7's provided the hotel power for the train sets as well.Norhtern Ontario is for the rugged,it's people are the hearty type one needs to be as the winters are harsh and the blackflies and mosquito's require anti aircraft guns to keep them at bay when they are in season,then the deer flies come outApparenetly this years blackfly and mosquito populations are quiet healthy due to the amount of heavy snow this past winter< oh joy >
As to the aircraft questions. the B25 was called the Mitchell after the United states Air Corps famous bomber general Billy Mitchell. The Hellcat was a US navy and marine corps fighter flying from carriers and landbased fields. they were also flown by the Royal Navy,Free french Navy and Royal Canadian Navy's from carriers as well ( though not the two seat trainer versions like was at the show ) The Aussie and Kiwi's may have flown them as well in the Pacific.
The Huricane was in desert camo alot of the Canadian fighter strength after the Battle of Britain did migrate south to Malta and North Africa,that Hurricane is a Mk IIC as you can tell by the 20mm cannon in the wings in place of the 8 .303's
I have heard that another lanc was being rebuilt.theer are two one in Australia and one in England that can taxi under their own power but the airframes and main spars are too compromised to allow them to fly.They would need to be a complete rebuild using the existing plane as a pattern which is a massive money cost. It would be wondefull to have more flyable however.
It's been a while since I've watched my copy of the DVD of the Battle of Britain movie.But in watching the bonus stuff ( yes I do watch the making of bits that come with them ) The Stuka's were models as at the moment there are no flyable one's in the world now or when the movie was made. The Heinkels and Dorniers were also owned by the Spanish Air Force they used them as crew navigation trainers.Inteerstingly alot of the air to air shots were filmed using a modified B25 as a camera plane !
Well Leon another round please.
Hey there Bossman-just caught you as I was leaving-Fancy a quick Night cap ??-Leon-a big old brandy for the man and a wee taste for myself before I hit Mollys to have my education completed....-Remember-no second chances-this isn`t a rehearsal-lets go for it !!-on which happy note,I am really away -sleep well y`all
<From ExpoRail railway museum - personal foto>
Another opportunity to get a leg up on the Posts . . . have some outdoor things to take care of - prep the house trim 'n shutters for painting. <ugh> Taking advantage of the rather cool temps in mid-June . . .
SPORTS REPORT!
At this writing, the Boston Celtics are runnin' away with it!
Page 141 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:48 AM ‘n 10:04 AM ‘n 11:06 AM: A trifecta from our Manager ‘n Resident Ontario Connection! Looks like you hit the mother lode with all of those warplane fotos - appreciate your keeping to the Rule of Six! I go "over" only when trying to preserve a "set" . . . Also spacing ‘em out was considerate as well . . .
It's indeed a wonderful endeavor to have so many people preserving our railroad locos ‘n rolling stock along with aircraft from back in the day. Never really had such an appreciation for all they do until becoming involved with the boyz at the bar!
Oh yeah, not to worry - the water company will surely get a rate increase - if not for the deteriorating infrastructure, I'm sure they'll somehow crank in the price of petrol! <groan> Everything - ‘n I mean everything - has gone up, why not the water, eh
I don't know the source of the funding for the expansion of the MoTs trolley run - but I do know they also have "grand plans" to expand the museum display areas too. Since they've affiliated themselves with our county government - my guess is there's an infusion of tax dollars somewhere in the mix - which is okay by me. We had an initiative on the ballot a couple of years ago for expanded funding for parks <which the MoT falls under> so perhaps that's where "it" came from.
Thanx for the head's up regarding week's end . . . helps to know!
Much appreciation for the fine inclusive Post, foto spread, quarters for Herr Wurlitzer's Coal Scutle ‘n money for a ROUND! yeah]
Page 141 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 12:47 PM: Mornings must be on the "heavy side" for ya, Mate - but appreciate your taking the time ‘n making the effort in keeping us in mind!
I'm no fan of the DH either - so we're on the same wavelength with that one. Insofar as this inter league play goes - I thought it was "okay" for the first few years. Now it's absurdity in the flesh. I mean, dump it Commish, dump it! The KC Royals ‘n St. Louis Cardinals squared off in ONE World Series - a terrible call in the 6th game is blamed for the ultimate Cards loss. BUT, they did have game 7 - and totally fell apart. Anyway, there is NO rivalry per se. None, zero, zip, zilch! It isn't like the many other GENUINE rivalries where there is deep-rooted history - this nonsense makes me want to <barf>! As I said, in the beginning it was a novelty - we made the trek to KCity a couple of times to see the games - Big Mac swatting the balls out of Kaufman Stadium, etc. But after a while it just wore thin - now it's worn OUT.
The Budd sleepers in the Chateau series of car are not 10/6 - there are 8 roomettes in those cars. But the remainder of what you said holds true . . .
"Click" the link: http://www.viarail.ca/classes/en_serv_visi_voit.html
Interesting that you made mention of 1948 - was the first WS that I recall paying attention to!
Many thanx for the visit, ROUND ‘n quarters for our juke!
Page 141 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:43 PM: We're pretty well stocked for emergencies - just the way we are. The Boy Scout motto applies, "Be Prepared."
Looks like you've made some research work for yourself on our next trip to the Barriger RR Library - check those RR Almanacs ‘n you'll find the answer regarding those 1955 trains!
We've escaped any bad weather for more days in succession than I can recall thus far this year. They've gone ‘round us for a change - those to the north, south ‘ east have gotten swacked - but we've remained dry. Something different . . .
Some super fine fotos <again> from your Mate, Alan! The guy has the "touch" when it comes to RR fotos. Too bad you can't get him to come by the bar - but we've been down that road before, eh Appreciate the Pix1
Don't know for certain what caused that water main break - but perhaps it was due to the undermining of the bottom of the hill by all of the rain. However, it isn't the first time that particular line has let go . . . last time was about 4 years ago. <groan> Fortunately, no long term grief for us or our neighbors.
I'll have to be sure that the <tweeter> is in fine fettle once we get to the thousandth reply!
I know what you mean about beer tasting so much better when someone else is buying! <grin> I'll find that out shortly!
Many thanx for the inclusive ‘n interesting Post!
Page 141 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:59 PM 'n 7:29 PM 'n 8:36 PM <12:59 AM 'n 1:29 AM 'n 2:36 AM Wednesday GMT>: Have fun while you can, fate is . . . yeah, I can "go" along with that! Far too many times alolng the way I've put off things that I shudda done. Now it's "go for it" UNELSS there are compelling situations <leaking basement, etc.> to keep me from it. That accounts for my sojourns to hither ‘n yon to ride trains!
Interesting how that foto of yours actually caught the "movement" - just looked like there was "hurry up" written all over it. <grin>
Like the look of that GW tender! <sweet>
Translyvania SAC conjures up a totally different image! <yikes> <grin>
Good inclusive material in first two of the evening - eavesdropping material!
3rd visit chock full o' great B&W from the attic! Those are truly from back in the day!
As always, an inclusive ‘n entertaining Post from our Resident Londoner in Wales! ROUNDs continue . . .
O.K chaps-back again-covered in dust and with some appropriate attic-searching B&W stuff for you :-
Right-Leon-better have some beer for everybody please-looks like my credit is still good
We start off back in the `30`s with some lines run by the late Col. H.F Stevens,formerly of the Royal Engineers-a man who ran an empire of minor light railways on an expenditure of 2 buckets of coal,4 oz of tea and 3 small cigars per week:-
Here we have-Top,Weston,Clevedon & Portishead railcar #5 & trailer (ex S.R Drewry petrol motor) leaving Weston
Middle,Shropshire & Montgomeryshire 0-4-2 `Gazelle` & trailer
Bottom-Ford railbuses on the Kent & East Sussex
Staying with the W.C&P here we have 2-4-0t `Hesperus`(Manning Wardle ??) in a spot of bother at Wick jetty
W.C & P #4 and trailer -looks like the south end of Clevedon,on the station throat
#5 again-definately Clevedon-the parade of shops in the background are still there,although the whole station area ( the G.W.R terminus was behind and right of the camera ) is now a supermarket
Here is a G.W `Flying banana` railcar test running near Sonning cutting on the main line
Very little info on this -once again ,I suspect PETE will be able to fill in some gaps......all I can offer is -likely to be mid `60`s-somewhere in Cumbria (dig the hip outfits man....)
Right-be lucky chaps-I am away-am on a promise (She has promised that if I get to bed drunk again, I will be sleeping on the couch-works for me.......... )
Take care now-speak soon
PETE-Overlapping posts again-enjoy the beer mate-always welcome
Nice assortment of pix-the Hartz tank looks grand-and an interesting carrier wagon underneath it,The pacific looks like a fine high-stepping long legged missy and a great G.C.R pair from you-one full of steam and atmosphere,the other with everything gleaming-even the brass on the front of the pistons
Now tell us-Is Alan real ,or an alter -ego you use whilst performing vital intelligence work for M.I.6 deep within the former soviet bloc ?-are these pics developed from micro-film from the secret camera concealed in your flat cap-what manner of code breaking equipment is REALLY hidden within the black bag.........................whoops-been reading Le Carre again
O.K-back to the attic-As I have had one Scorsese movie tonight,how about the soundtrack to his latest on Herr Wurlitzer-Shine A Light,featuring Sir Mick ,Doctor Death & that nice Mr Watts from Wembley.....Start me up.............
My word-tuesday again-where does the time go ???.....Well Leon,I will accept the guvnors kind offer of a pint-better make it a Carling please-looks like I have a late night appointment at Molly`s later.............
Just enjoyed a rare evening of T.V/Movie viewing with Herself-1st up,a history channel doc. about one of the last surviving crew from The Dambusters squadron-the bomb aimer (or murderer as he described himself ) from T-Tommy,the only `plane to reach the Sorpe dam-an incredibly sprightly and lucid 86 years old-A moving piece of viewing-recommended
For the main event we had `The Departed`-a Scorsese movie with J.Nicholson leading a stellar cast..eye-watering violence,language to make a docker blush,dark,dark black humour and a rocking soundtrack-right up my alley but not for the easily offended.......
Now then-looks like its been an interesting day `round these parts..
TOM-A morning away huh-fess up,you`ve been out sailing an R/C boat on the new lake Chesterfield -joking aside,glad the company are on the case there-we all know that water will do as IT wishes,not as we might wish-nuff said on that topic I suspect........
As to the Zeppellin fleet,early research suggests that Vito & partners have teamed up with Boris`s clan back in the old country as part of the new east-west detante and we are now the proud possessors of the entire Transylvanian Strategic Air Command`s long range bomber fleet-happily Vito declined to take the ordinance that went with them-mostly of the `light fuse and throw overboard` variety.........
A fine C.N piece to tempt us with-top-drawer choice of pix
Both Elisabeth & Missisnick were in a hurry to get away from " yet another railway"-had we known then it was Alans last steam train trip...............to quote T-Bone Walker " Have fun while you can,fate`s an awful thing" (T-Bone Shuffle )
ROB-You seem to have a poor opinion of the `country cousins`-I guess upper & lower Canada are still very seperate places.....I figure the Bay is still an interesting place for pix what with the O.N.R & O.V.R in town-do C.N & C.P still do any business there ??-my maps are all pretty dated now
As to O.N.R liveries,I believe there are still a string of 40` boxes in development road & progressive liveries hanging around the works yard-M.o.W stock I would guess..
Liked the pix of the B.C.R `cats` and the GO geep-A question or two-Did those geeps use the ex-O.N.R F.P.7 units as cab-cars and if so,which unit provided the train heat ??
More q`s & comments on the warbirds later
ALLAN-Thoughts are with you mate-dont let the system grind you down-it`s only an abacus with delusions of grandeur at the end of the day...
ERIC-Yes indeed-Lydham Manor is a Very clean beast-both in terms of line ( as you meant) and finish -see below
I take your point about the cab size-the G.W built on standardised lines -all with the same `family` line to them-Kings were at the top of the tree,followed by Castles ,Halls ,Manors,Granges etc. The Manors were,I believe (PETE will know more ) designed for use on secondary routes in Wales & the west country-they had a tractive effort of 27,340 lbs,5`8" drivers and weighed just shy of 69 tons-were classified as 5mt (mixed traffic)
Almost all G.W locos had inside valve gear,which contributed to the clean lines,and,I suspect standard sizes of cast # plates-what looks `right` on a King or Castle looks just a little bit `wrong` on a Manor-just a theory..
Incidentally,your observation about our family command structure is exactly spot on--
SHANE-Students eh ??-Can`t live with `em,can`t legitimately kill `em............
Can confirm the M.E 109`s in the BoB movie were Spanish Air Force-(Hmm-we could have invaded-missed a trick there)
Your comment about prepared remarks for the little one spookily prescient-she turned round to me earlier and asked " Do Muesli & Grandad KNOW they are dead ???" .............."Well,Errrrrrrrrr.........................." -for a 7 year old ,she is quite a deep thinker.....
ROB-What a fabulous collection of birds-must have been a first rate day out
Right-Sea Fury-look to have Supermarine lines ?-any clues ? Lysander looks wonderful-didn`t know there were any left B25-always get muddled with the `B`s -did they have a name ? SPIT-good news-the local air-fan group have bought one to restore -not sure of the model but I think it has a 5-blade prop LANC-May be wrong,but I believe there is a 3rd one now being actively restored-they ran a big T.V appeal last year-needed about $100,000 to keep the project afloat-and got it Harvard looking very well-fine tough little bird M.E.109-also looking very fine (not many Brits would say that)-one of the guys in the village ( a vintage bike nut ) has a Mess. 3-wheeler-apparently made out of old airframe parts-will ask him if I can take a pic or two for general entertainment-R.E BoB movie (see note to SHANE above )-any idea where they sourced the Heinkels,Dorniers & Stukas from the film ?? Hurricane looks grand in desert camo colours Hellcat--Grumman carrier birds used in Pacific campaign -yes/no ?????
Right,I think thats me up to date-gonna post this then go have a rummage through the attic & see what emerges
back in a bit
A pint of Bathams Mild please RUTH., it always tastes better when someone else is paying
TOM Many thanks for the kind words and the photos at the MOT on Rendezvous III. I see the DM&IR 2-10-2 # 502 had a flangeless middle driving wheels like the BR 9F 2-10-0s.Also noticed the cost new of #502 in 1916 and the cost of the SD-45 #3607 in 1967.
Glad to hear you have supplies of water in after the main breakage in your street, I guess the ground moving after all the rain contributed to it. Good to hear the water people have fixed i.
A lot of yesterdays post was done during a break in the thunderstorms we had Sunday afternoon.
Thinking about the Western Names I have had an idea, when we reach 1000 posts I will put the Western names with the posts that is if I remember.
That really was a good beer at the Lewis & Clark with a lovely taste to it.
Yes Nick's C-Note should help the bar tab for a few days.
Many thanks for the Passenger Fallen Flag on the Canadian National. I wonder how many trains a day there was by the two routes between Montreal and Halifax operated by CN in 1955. It is good the Ocean train name lives on today.
Great photo of the Transcontinental by the lake.
Amtrak tickets arrived today.
NICK Hope you are able to get the cost of the tank sorted to your satisfaction.
Great photo of the 3 generations and Lydham Manor at Paignton. It would be interesting to know how many miles 7827 has clocked up on the line to Kingswear in preservation days she always seems to be working on what is a steeply graded line.
I guess the Westerns were designed with a lot of style to them and one of the few classes of diesel that looked good in most of the liveries, I bet the old Great Western people seeing them in LMS maroon was not popular though.
Hopefully the ‘Pride of Missouri' has a full load of Bathams aboard and I must wish the ‘Arizona Desert Queen' all the best on her Maiden Voyage.
Glad you enjoyed the Euro photos. I wonder if those units are ‘driver only' and the mirror is to help to see when closing the doors perhaps Eric could help.
Many thanks for the great Canadian photos.
ROB Glad you enjoyed the photos. I would like to hear the SD90s when they are hauling a heavy train.
Many thanks for the BC Rail and the Go Transit photos.
Great photos at the Canadian Warplane Heritage a wonderful collection of vintage warplanes a real credit to the preservationists. The Lancaster Mk X VRA looks brand new and I bet it sounded as good as it looks. Really great how you captured the aircraft in flight. Great to see a Spitfire and Hurricane flying as well.
BORIS's attempt to make Helium has been a failure; the gas he made was heavier than air, which was lucky I guess.
ALLAN Glad you to see you in the bar, really hope ‘Percy' can sort out the Word' problems you are having, but it is good you can still get the posts and pics at the bar.
Thanks for the kind words on the posts.
ERIC Keep cool in those really high (to me) temperatures you are having in your area.
Glad you enjoyed the trip Saturday. The way to guarantee to see something rare on a trip to see locomotives, is to leave the camera behind as it seems something good always turns up when there is no camera to capture it.
Yes it makes one wonder just how safe some of those steam locos were running in their last days.
Thanks for the photo of the ex RDC cars.
CM3 It seems the weather we have been having recently has headed in your direction, although, luckily, we escaped the hail.
Yes I think the boss was encouraging me to do the list so all the jobs around the bar could get done.
I guess it could be interesting at Pat's Place next couple of nights as it is the Cards v the Royals,the owner is a very big Cards fan.
Some photos.A couple of Alan's photos from Meinengen Works Germany.
Hartz loco No 99.7236
4-6-2 No 03.2295-8.
A copule of pics from my old slides of the early days of preservation at the Great Central Railway at Loughbourgh in the mid 1970s.
A 'steamy' shot of ex LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 5231.
No 5231 with a water tower in the background. The path on the right lead to the shed in those days, today the path is on the other side of the lines and the one in the photo is a siding.
Well RUTH another Bathams please, thanks Nick.
A rare daylite extravaganza headed up by trolleyMAN himself! Our Ontario Connection went for quantity AND quality with some super-fine fighter planes 'n good ole chat! Then our WVA Connection made it in with a fine submission - all to help make the daytime a gudun!
Figured I'd sit out the 1st half of the day with other aspects of living - so now a break! Here's something from the archives . . .
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #5
Canadian National Railways (CNR)
<A form of this was initially Posted on 19 Sep 2005, Page 112 of the original Thread>
<source: Classic American Railroads>
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Headquarters: Montreal, Quebec
Mileage as of 1955: 24,220
Locomotives as of 1963:
Steam: 0
Diesel: 2,125
Electric: 27
Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars- 105,177 Passenger cars - 2,808
Principal routes in 1955:
Halifax, NS-Montreal, QC (two routes)
Halifax-Sydney, NS
St. John's-Port aux Basques, NL (42" gauge)
Montreal-Portland, ME (via subsidiary Grand Trunk Railway in U.S.)
Montreal-New London, CT (via subsidiary Central Vermont in U.S.)
Quebec City-Montreal-Toronto-Windsor & Sarnia, ON-Detroit, MI & Chicago (via subsidiary GTW in U.S.)
Toronto-North Bay, ON
Toronto-Niagara Falls, ON
Quebec City-Winnipeg, MB
Montreal-Winnipeg
Winnipeg-Churchill, MB
Winnipeg-Duluth, MN (via subsidiary Duluth, Winnipeg & Pacific in U.S.)
Winnipeg-Vancouver, BC
Winnipeg-Regina, SK
Saskatoon, SK-Calgary, AB
Calgary-Edmonton, AB
Jasper, AB-Prince Rupert, BC
Passenger trains of note in 1955:
Super Continental (Montreal & Toronto-Vancouver)
Continental Limited (Montreal & Toronto-Vancouver)
Ocean Limited (Montreal-Halifax)
Scotian (Montreal-Halifax)
Caribou (St. John's-Port aux Basques)
International Limited (Montreal-Toronto-Chicago)
Inter-City Limited (Montreal-Toronto-Detroit & Chicago)
Northland (Toronto-North Bay & Timmins & Kapuskasing, ON)
Maple Leaf (Toronto-Philadelphia & New York City)
Montrealer & Washingtonian (Montreal-New York City-Washington, DC)
Ambassador (Montreal-Boston)
Gull (Boston-Portland, ME-Saint John, NB-Halifax)
Of note:
Montreal & Toronto-Chicago route with GTW Detroit & Port Huron-Chicago.
Toronto-Philadelphia & New York route with Lehigh Valley, Niagara Falls, NY-New York City.
Montreal-New York City & Boston & Washington route with CV, B&M, NH and PRR.
Halifax-Boston route with CP, Maine Central and B&M.
Toronto-Timmins & Kapuskasing route with Ontario Northland Railway.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CN Transcontinental (1963) (Canada Science & Technology Museum, Ottawa - foto credit: unknown)
Canada: CN Skyview Car, circa: 1965-69) (courtesy: http://www.trainweb.org/ - foto credit: unknown)
CN #2405 "Columbia" Sceneramic Dome (courtesy: http://www.trainweb.org/ - foto credit: unknown)
Enjoy!
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Apologies for being late but I have been dealing with a bunch of querulous graduate students (that's all I'm going to say before the escorts send me to the Rat Room). On second thought barkeep, let's have a splash in the coffee. What I thought would be about 30 minutes of gentle reasoning turned into abt. three hours of behavior modification and issuing of decrees. well, that's why we get the big bucks (right).
Must begin with the weather report for "Ol' 113 degrees" in Phoenix. We had seven kinds of weather here yesterday: sun, clouds, rain, lightning, thunder, hail, and very heavy rain. Last night was truly rock and roll as severe thunderstorm warnings scrolled across the screen from about four to nine o'clock without ceasing. We got more than our share, thank you. Note: temperature here tonight is supposed to be 50 degrees; highs in the 60s to low 70s for the rest of the week.
Nick was by with comments and reflections. The young people have a way of dealing with things as you say, however, it is best, IMHO, to always have good answers to their questions. Northern Alberta - nice picture. I have an N scale boxcar of that road somewhere. enjoyed your material on the "other site."
Pete stopped in with comments and observations. I figure we'd both get chopped if you sent the name list along (lol). OSP might put us to work cleaning gutters, stock pens, and the moat.
Rob was by with flying machine pictures of true rarity. Lancaster with a flyby - excellent! The Sea Fury and Seafire are both exotic items as well. The Spanish ME109s flew, IIRC in a lot of the battle scenes in the movie "Battle of Britain." I was surprised that there were any left with Daimler engines. I have been to Geneseo more than a few times (mom went to school there) and have watched the B-17 go from a cold start to warm up and then take off - unbelievable.
Allan - Sorry to hear about you computer travails. The last tech support guy I talked to was a fellow named Moe (HTG) and he was a real big help (snark, snark). Hope you don't get him.
Eric was by with comments as well.
OSP - Truly the Ancient Mariner yesterday? Our water company does pretty well most of the time when somebody calls in a problem - we get something like that at the end of our yard sometimes and it runs downhill, fortunately away from the house.
Sleepers you were talking about are 10/6 cars. Amtrak had some, IIRC, that were old 8/5 cars from the Rock Island if you trace them back far enough. I remember riding in those and you didn't have to use the curtain. Toilet was also not covered by the bed. I have asked Boris to find the carbide lights so we can go into the crypt (that's under the east wing) and find the car lists I need.
Spotlighting Sports on the Sportlight Spotlight (tip of the cap to Bob and Ray): Your complaints re interleague play are a lot like mine about the designated hitter. As I told you at Busch, "It's all about the money."
Some of the interleague pairings are manufactured but the Red Sox and Cards play this weekend - they don't like each other for a variety of reasons. Another good one is Red Sox and Braves as there is a lot of histroy involved there. For those who don't remember those two teams would have played in an all Boston world series in 1948, IIRC, had the Indians not won the playoff game.
My, didn't the Philadelphias play smack down with the Bostons last night.
Many thanks for the RR Mag cover reruns - always like the New Haven one on Hell Gate.
Well lets see,since Tom said he was gonna be busy part of today here's another late AM slot one from me before I trundle off to work. PT 3 of the warplane father's day Weekend extravaganza.I'll leave a few bucks for a mid afternoon round for Shane and Pete should they make it in If not then the late afternoon and evening set can make use of it.
13.
Shot of VRA and one of it's Spitfire consorts on the ground.
14.
Warplanes C47 taxing out for it's flight pass. 10th airwing airtransport sqd colours on this vintage bird. It's been flying since 1939 and this aircraft always with the RCAF flew many a mission on resupply in Burma for the Commonwealth armies fighting there during WW2.
15.
The Hurricane being readied for another flypast
16.
The B25 being parked after it's flight,a Harvard appears just in the corner of the picture as well.
17.
The Spit and Hurricane heading out for another run
18.
Anther visiter to the show a Hellcat fighter, that was converted to a two seat trainer. this aircraft flew in from the air musuem in Geneseeo New York wheer it lives with among others the flying B17 Memphis Belle .
More later enjoy
All right back again with more father's day weekend photo's. I think I'll need another round of teh high octane BK blast as well.I'll leave a sack of quarters for the coal scuttle since we still seem to be covered by Nick's century note.
7.
The Sea Fury doing it's passes over the airfield.
8.
The nose's of the four non Warplane herritage visitors. An ME109 and Spitfire from the Russell group of Niagara Falls Ontario,and a Spitfire and Hurricane from the Ottawa Valley club.All waiting for the final fly past.
9.
VRA's solo flypast 5x It's true a Lancaster does sound like a squadron of Spitfires when it's taking off !
10.
Another new addition to Warplanes flyable list a Supermarine Seafire fighter,also in partial RCN markings some painting still needs to be done.
11.
The Russell groups 109,this is an unusual plane in that it's one of only two flyable one's still equiped with the Daimler Benz inline engine,most flyable 109's in the world today came from the Spanish airforce and have Rolls Royce Merlin engines.I have to look up again but form what we were told this 109 is marked for German Ace Ernest Udet.
12.
Warplanes B25 J taxing back in after it's performance.
More later
Good morning Ruth , just my usual number three with the large thermos of high octane caffination if you don't mind. What's this,prune danishes Mama and Papa must be on a fibre kick again oh well. Do not let Boris eat one , remembr what happened the last time.The Mentor Hazmat will NOT respond to one of those calls again.
Oh Boris , now you heard me have the apple danish,that's a good cyclops,don't forget about your critters they look like they are about ready to cirle the wagons. <uh oh >
Tom-Glad you and the bride enjoyed the photo spread,more to come Good to hear that the waterworks were so quick to fix the leak,I'm sure that you didn't want to break out the lifeboats.Lets hope they are not as quick to raise their billing rates too compensate.
Nice to hear that the MOT has got a line on new funding,we are finally going to start construction on the barn four , unfortunatly it will require a mortgage for the museum due to all the city hall crap from Milton ( they have to get their developement fee's )I would indeed require at least a day at the MOT should I make it down
As a general heads up this weekend FR/Sat will be a busy one for me so I likley won't be that available,I'll do what I can. It's father's day with my dad this weekend as last weekend didn't work out.
I think those old single level cars were sold to Montreal's commuter system as well as the Onr,so It does not supprise me that you recognized them.ONR didn't need all the cars once GO decided to go all bi-level.
The weather's finally broken,we are going to get a few showers this week but all the nasty stuff's gone for now.
Eric-Oh no not more converted RDC's,<grrr> not a great thing to do. I'm with Tom it does make one shake their head as to what was the reasonning. It had to ahve been more costly to convert than to fix whatever may have been wrong with the powerplants and trucks.
Those two RS18's are the same paint scheme, the last the BCR used on the Alco's. The first shot was a bit dark and it was an old photo I bought ( all the BC one's are )It had a large water stain so I had to brutally crop it and tried to bring the colour back as good as I could get it. the photo editing software can only do so much I hate to get rid of it though as it shows the surgury performed on the loco during the repowering.
Nope your weather's beyond my comfort level at the temps your reporting.WE've come out of two strait weeks of high 80's mid 90's with high humidity ( and the storms to prove it ) This week is back in my favourite zone,low to mid 70's with 60's at night. No AC and the windows open
back in a bit.
Tuesday, that rather nondescript day of the week - perhaps best known for being the day before Wednesday! <grin>
Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink have just delivered their pastries for loading into The Mentor Village Bakery case - coffee's freshly ground ‘n brewed - ‘n of course our Menu Board features <light> ‘n <traditional> bills o' fare! Go for it, Gents!
What a BUSY nite we had at the Tavern by the Tracks! Good to see so many guys with lots to say 'n offer . . .
For our GoR: PLEASE give me a head's up <via Email preferably> when you know that you'll be away from the bar for an extended period - surely helps in planning my Posts for the day. Thanx!
With so few of us, it makes little sense to be Posting atop one another - best to space ‘em out - dontchathink
Monday - June 16th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 41 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:43 PM ‘n 9:06 PM: Thought for a bit that you disappeared on us - which you did! However, very understandable when it comes to storms ‘n the threat of disappearing for good! <geesh> <yikes> I note the severity of ‘em has lessened - which is GOOD, eh Youbetcha!
A fine < I3 > Post ‘n appears you caught up in no time!
You'd enjoy the MoT -it truly is an enjoyable place to visit. They are planning to lengthen the trolley route - rather short right now, but apparently they funding has been found for it. The cars they operate are in tip-top condition too. St. Louis was a Meca for streetcars - but you know that, eh Yeah, MoT would be a definite #1 should you ever swing by this part of the continent.
The water company was "Johnny on the spot" when it came to securing the leak! Really got ‘er done in a flash - I was amazed, as were the neighbors. Anyway, the water was at least a foot deep, gushing up from several sources beneath the ground ‘n covered a couple of blocks . . . never saw it like that ‘round here. We had our service restored just about the time I Posted my evening acknowledgments . . . And by the by, there IS an area called Lake Chesterfield nearby!
Three fine fotos along with all kinds o' chat in your revisit! Those GO passenger cars resemble the one's I've seen in Montréal . . .
Many thanx for the ROUNDS, Mate - we've got "freebies" lined up for awhile, thanx in large measure to Nick's Century Note - exchange rate makes it so!
Page 41 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:59 PM <5:59 PM Tuesday NZ time>: Surely seems as if the Gremlins have found safe-haven in downunder land! <yikes> Really a strange phenom you're experiencing. Hopefully the "pro" help you've sought out will get to it, pronto quick!
Of course the visit ‘n ROUND means a lot - especially considering the frustration factor!
Tuesday - June 17th:
Page 41 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 12:41 AM: What a fine display of aircraft - we both enjoyed ‘em! As you know, my bride's dad was a career RCAF aviator (30 years) - so airplanes have a "place" ‘round here as far as she's concerned!
Many thanx for the effort ‘n descriptions!
Page 41 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:22 AM <11:22 PM Monday, Sandbox time>: Most happy to see ya, but really unhappy with those RDC conversions. <barf> Makes me sad ‘n mad to realize their fate . . .
Email sent your way!
Yeah, you guessed it! I'm operating the CACSS on DC fer sure - 750V minus 738V! Works well. <grin>
As we discussed at the Rendezvous - I'm hoping all of the guys are copying the fotos I've been Posting - that's why I'm doing it! Figured it's an inexpensive way to make an album, eh Although I really appreciated the fine work you did with your CDs from Rendezvous II - would love another set! Anyway, copy ‘em all - please!
I didn't get any fotos worth a hoot from our awards ‘n farewell dinner . . . hoping someone did! Email attachments would be nice!
All the talk of desert heat has made me turn the A/C down lower!! <grin> The HIGH ‘round here is forecast to be 82 (F) . . . that's plenty hot for me! <phew>
Sounds like your roomette was similar to the one's aboard VIA Rail's Budd sleepers. A zipper curtain outside the door area - so when you want to fold down/up the bed - step back with the curtain blocking the view <so to speak> ‘n go for it. <grin>
A fine < I3 > Post ‘n enjoyed your chat!
Leon, a ham sandwich for me! And a cold Tui!
A hot day, the summer is here!
Tom – Looking forward to see photos of the 3rd rail! Are you going to run the system on 750V DC or what? I am glad that many people like snow, otherwise so many of them would live in and around Phoenix and this place would be very, very crowded! I know what you mean when you say not slush, not ice, not slop, just plain old fashioned snow. We had kind of a warm day today, 112˚, and the next three days it is supposed to be 113˚. Talking about the Plymouth Satellite, I understand you were the oldest son! The roomette I had during the tour with the X2000 was the small kind. To unfold the bed I had to open the door but there was a curtain that allowed me to step out in the passageway. Yes, I think it was a waste of money to rebuild the RDC’s into regular coaches. Sad! Nice magazine covers! Circus train loading, reminds me of what I saw in Baraboo, WI. Nice photos from MoT! I missed taking one of #502! Don’t ask me why. I am keeping a copy of your photo! #3607 was built 1947 but it looks almost like a locomotive built the last few years! Classic design!CM3 – Thanks for the round! You are right, it was the roof line that caught our eyes. It showed very clearly what it used to be. We had 111˚ yesterday, 112˚ today and will have 113˚ the next three days. Low 50s is kind of cold in my opinion. Pete – Yes, we had a nice day up in the BNSF country last Saturday. I had hoped to see something unusual but did not have any luck. Just common BNSF diesels plus a Norfolk Southern. I believe most railroads didn’t maintain there steam locomotives properly the last number of years before they were retired. If the temperture goes above 100 you just stay inside! Or go to the mall!Nick – Looking at the photo of the Lydham Manor it strikes me how clean it looks, hardly no pipes or valves visible. But the cab looks like it is two numbers too small. Looking at the three generations in the foreground it is kind of obvious who is in command, hands on her back. It is a shame to degrade RDCs to regular coaches. But I guess someone figured the company would save some money doing so. It seems like you have a very nice garden, supplying you with a lot of veggies and fruits! Very nice photos from Canada! I guess the top one is a special for Tom! Snow!!Rob – A question about the Cat powered RS18? The colors are slightly different comparing with #609, is that the photo itself or had the colors changed on the locomotive? It looks almost like a FedEx livery to me! Thanks for the photos of the war birds! All very classic ones! I can tell you had a very interesting Father’s Day! Or, to be correct, the day before. Allan – Thanks for the round! I am glad you don’t give up posting even though you have a lot of problems doing so. One of these days everything will work again!
Three more former RDCs.
Hello Leon,back in again to make sure you are not board tonight Just a pint of Rickard's red as the "Maple Leaf" Zep just brought the batch in. Also the Rickard's white if your interested
Allan-Good to see you in again. Not good that you are still having WP problems but the main thing is your still with us and able to enjoy whats out n the decks It took me along time to go to broadband as well ( the price isn't all that more per month ) but I too have a bit of the Scot in me as well.Mind you I don't know how I did without it,I went as fire as dissabling my ability to see the pictures here on the forum when I was on dial up as the lag times for page loading was awfull,I now can't imagine not having a high speed line.Keep on keeping on as they say.
Here's the first batch of Father's Day weekend shots from the Canadian Warplane Herritage,from Saturday the 14th. The weather was hot but cloudy and sunny at times ,hope you enjoy the shots.
1.
The Sea Fury taxiing out for it's tern on the flight line. This is one of warplanes Birds and currently the only Seafury flying in Canada,this aircraft saw combat in Korea flying of HMCS Magnificent with VF10.
2.
The Lysander now fully restored and airworthy. Tom you will remember this guy being just frame work and no wings or engine on your visit in 2005.It's in 416 City of Hamilton Squadron Colours from WW2 ( used as a target tug aircraft ) hence the high vis paint scheme. it was used to pull the drogue targets for air gunners at the various. British Commonwealth training facilities in Canada.
3.
This is Warplanes B25J doing it's flight,it's marked for the 424 Cheetah SQD light bombers from Canada's no 6 bomb group,painted in D-day invasion stripes !
4.
A Spitfire MK IXb visiting from the Russell group in Niagara Falls Ontario. This plane is painted in 243 City of Toronto squadron colours and is letterd for Canadian Ace George Buzz Beurling (22 kills)
5.
The Star of the show and Pride of Canadian Warplane Herritage, VRA a lancaster MK X built at Malton Ontario's Victory Aircraft ( later Avroe Canada )This plane is painted in 419 "moose" sqd also of No 6 Bomber group RCAF ( heavy bombers )It is painted to Commemprate Pilot officer Andrew Mynarski VC the original VRA'a mid upper gunner. this is one of only two flyable Lancasters left the other is the MK II City of Lincoln which is flown by The Battle of Brittain Memorial flight in the UK.
6.
A Harvard trainer one of seven owned by the Herritage Museum this one's a MKIV one of the thousands that trained pilots from around the Commonwealth in Canada during the war years.
More to come.
Hi Tom and all,
Leon the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
To all. Am still having heaps of problems posting from Word, my dial up connection goes OFF line when I try to insert the document when pasting. I am now in consultation with that guy called 'Percy Vearence" to get over the frustration of the glitch.
To Eric, Rob, Pete, CM3, and Nick, enjoying all your posts and pix and support with my current problems.
Lars. Wonderful to see you on site for father`s day with a nice Larsman Mobile offering, great to see you again thats for sure. Being on Dial Up service is a real negative as I have uploading problems with pix, broadband is so expensive here in NZ, as you can guess I have a wee drop of Scots blood in my system!
Tom. Am having a thorough troubleshoot of the Word posting problem, been trying several options but none have worked up to now. Enjoying all your great posts, pix and talk with the guys`, am using direct typing in the message window for this item, seems to be working OK at the moment!
See ya, Allan
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