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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, November 26, 2007 1:32 PM

Hi Tom and all. Part 1

Hope everyone had a good ThanksgivingYeah!! [yeah]. A pint please RUTH for all the great posts while I have been awayApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I have reached page 144 on my catch up and have been writing as I go. I noticed my post is getting a bit long so I will post this and read to get up to date.

ALLAN The two LNER Ian Allan books were re-prints. Unfortunately I too lost my early spotting booksSad [:(] and in the earliest of my original books from late 1963 I do not seem to have copied all the Eastern Region engines I saw from the previous booksDunce [D)] although I did not see too many ex LNER locosSad [:(] but I do recall seeing LNER types on the Great Central which passed through my home town including V2sApprove [^] which I have none marked in my combine volumeConfused [%-)]. How I wish I could have a look again at my old booksSigh [sigh].

It was interesting to hear that you remembered the Midland Red busesThumbs Up [tup]. There was a time when each region of Britain seemed to have it own bus company with its own identityApprove [^], now, I think, it is mainly a few big companies.Sad [:(] I guess it would be Northern buses in NewcastleQuestion [?]. I recall the Midland Red had a "Day Anywhere" ticket and for under 14s it was 5 shillings (about 50 cents today) to travel all over the Midlands on their busesWow!! [wow], this would be in the early 1960s.Happy days.Approve [^] 

Glad you enjoyed the photos and thanks for the kind words.Thumbs Up [tup]

ERIC Thanks for the info on the Globe rail line.Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes the model layout in the main entrance of the Union Station in Kansas City is taken down after Christmas. There are a couple of layouts that are in the station on a permanent basis, one is a HO scale and another is, I believe an N gauge in the railroad museum there. Many thanks for the photosThumbs Up [tup]

JAN Hope you are able to shake off that cold soon.Yeah!! [yeah]

LARS I agree it is great to see the ‘Christmas Train back in the bar.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

DL. Thanks for the link to ‘The Wind That Shakes The Barley' Thumbs Up [tup]I have not seen the film but looking at the trailer I think I would like to see it.Yeah!! [yeah] Do you remember a film called ‘Ryan's Daughter'Question [?] I believe that was set at the same time in Ireland.

As you say we think on similar linesYeah!! [yeah], I thought exactly the same as you on the ‘Champagne Bar'Thumbs Down [tdn] I suppose you can only get a half pint of beer in there and I would hate to think of the priceShock [:O]. Back in the 1970s when, like today, real ale seems under threatSad [:(] BR started to serve real ale in certain of their station buffets, they even produced a leaflet telling what ales were on sale in the different buffetsApprove [^]. St Pancras was one of those although this did not last long I thought it was a great idea.Approve [^]

I had a friend at work who had been on a steam hauled special train many years ago and had sat opposite to C. Hamilton Ellis on the trip and had a good talk with himWow!! [wow]. I wish I had been there as his knowledge of railways was immense.Bow [bow]

As you say ‘Red For Danger must have been a very difficult book to write, it would be interesting to know how many editions of the book there as been.

Many thanks for the link to that excellent ‘Rails around Birmingham' siteThumbs Up [tup], good photos and that is a great map showing the old lines and stations in the areaYeah!! [yeah]. The readers gallery has some rare shots in I will e-mail the site to Alan,Thumbs Up [tup] he will be particularly interested in the photos of the Olbury branch as he has seen very little photos of the branch. Many Thanks for sharing. Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

ROB Great to see you in the barApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. The trip to Ottawa must be a very poignant occasion at the Remembrance Day services, an occasion that would never be forgotton.   

TOM Loved the Thanksgiving graphicsApprove [^]Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup]

Enjoyed your encore of DOUG's post on the Lionel 700E

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, November 26, 2007 6:43 PM

Hi Tom and all Part2

A pint of Bathams please RUTH, now I have caught up.Thumbs Up [tup]

TOM Many thanks for the description and those great photos of the locomotives and cars on your trip on the Branson Scenic RailwayThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. The link to their site was very interesting with a history of the area and of the railroad,Yeah!! [yeah] I see it was a MOPAC line once, that is one of the best sites I have seen so far in its description of the equipmentBow [bow]. Loved the name of the newspaper from Lucia, ‘The Locomotive'.Approve [^]

Two great films back by popular demandApprove [^], the Titfield Thunderbolt is a film I never tire of watching and Danger Lights another good railroad film and the Stooges sounds a classic, so another good week at the Emporium.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

That is interesting about B&O # 50 Yeah!! [yeah] I see in the link it lost its ‘Shovelnose' after WWII.

I see November was a busy month in Canadian Railroad history. I guess a lot of the line openings were scheduled before the winter months set in.

It seems the Prince of Wales in 1919 used to enjoy driving steam locomotivesApprove [^]. The 1925 world record by the CN diesel electric car No 15280 seems not to have the attention it deserved as I can only recall reading about it at the bar.Yeah!! [yeah]

RON I wished I had seen that program on the History Channel on the big steamersSigh [sigh]; hopefully they will show it again soon.

Many thanks for the words to ‘Transport of Delight'Thumbs Up [tup] I was singing along to it, it is funny how some tunes never leave you, although it is many years since I last heard that song.

I don't think I will try that Vietnamese dish.Shock [:O]Smile [:)]

Enjoying the talk between Tom and yourself on the Lionel Trains.Approve [^]

JAN Glad your Steel Steam and Stars book arrived and it was as good as hoped it would be.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the B&O photos.Thumbs Up [tup] #50 looks an interesting locomotive and # 5600 looks in wonderful condition for the New York World's FairWow!! [wow]. It would be interesting to hear a bit more about the Lima Ohio Soapbox champions.Yeah!! [yeah]

Good N&W photos the 2-8-8-2s seem to show power and the 4-8-4s speed to me.Approve [^]

As you say some them C&O locomotives are in showroom condition, it must have taken a lot of time by the loco cleaners to get a locomotive in that condition.Bow [bow]

 Thanks for sharing.  Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

LARS Great B&O video and bookcoversThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup], truly a historic railroad. The color scheme suited the F units. I bet that B&O in the Civil War is an interesting book.

Sorry about the ‘Jints' the bride was not too happy about the Chiefs yesterdaySad [:(], but what about England not qualifying for the European ChampionshipsBanged Head [banghead]Angry [:(!], there goes my excuse not to do Honey-Dos next summer.Sigh [sigh]Big Smile [:D]

As you say this year as seemed to have flown by it is hard to believe it is December at the end of this week.Shock [:O]

Does RUTH know about the Radio City Rockettes.Evil [}:)]Smile [:)]

ROB Many thanks for those great photos of the Works Equipment at the museumApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. To think Flat Motor W4 is over 100 years old nowWow!! [wow], I guess some parts of W4 is older than that.

MIKE Thanks for that very entertaining article by David P Morgan on the Florida 4-8-2s as the diesels were taking over their dutiesThumbs Up [tup]. I wonder in what year Trains first came outQuestion [?] I think they were fortunate to have Mr. Morgan as editorYeah!! [yeah].

I have loaded some photos from Alan but myCensored [censored] e-mail is playing upBanged Head [banghead] and I cannot get to his notesSi<div style=

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Posted by Gunneral on Monday, November 26, 2007 8:05 PM

Hi Tom and all,

The usual round of Tui`s for the crew please Leon!Yeah!! [yeah]

Tom.  Nice write up and pics of your Branson trip, looks as if you had a great time on the rails there, and also seeing all those shows, used to watch the Andy Williams TV show a lot way back when, he had a very easy laid back style. Nice write up and more info on the Canadian RR`sYeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup]

Dan. Nice to see you back on board.  That show at Manors station was the last time that particular coaching stock was on public display in their original colours, during the war they had been stored in various places, such as, Doncaster, York and some way up in Scotland as well. That Black and Tan name derived from the uniform the RUC wore at that time, they had either RIC dark green, or UK police dark blue jackets and UK army khaki trousers, and tan Sam Brown belts as well, Ron will be interested in that info too. Hope TVNZ get that doco on the St Pancras restoration soon, can`t see many Brits using that Champagne bar at all though, if it was a decent beer it would be different!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Ron.  Yes the "Mozzie", as it was nicknamed, was an awesome plane, it was called the "Whispering death" by the German troops as they could`nt hear it coming, it was also used as a fighter/bomber, some were fitted with 40mm Bofors guns. In the late 50`s and early 60`s we had them in Germany as target drogue tugs because of their top speed, they were operated by civilian contractors to the RAF, all ex RAF WW2 pilots of course.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric.  Did you spot my deliberate mistake, that photo of Tom on the streetcar I attributed to you was one of Pete`s after all, hope I do`nt get "Tweeted"!Confused [%-)] Enjoyed all your posts and pics, thanks!Yeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup]

Jan. A real nice selection of B&O and N&W loco`s mate, they enlarged really well!Wow!! [wow]Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars. A really top notch selection of B&O bookcovers on your posts Lars, together with all your write ups as well, much appreciated, popped over to the other thread a few times as well to have a nosey! See the Patriots got a fright last game?Bow [bow]Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob.  Enjoyed all your trolley and steam pics and info.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike. Nice to see you again, nice write up on the FEC RR loco`s, interesting reading, David P. Morgan was a great editor of Trains magazine.!Yeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. Welcome back mate.Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Sure wish I still had those missing Ian Allen spotters books, I had all the A4`s noted several times!Sigh [sigh] In our area of Wallsend we had several bus companies, Tynemouth and Wakefield`s Traction [owned by Northern eventually], Tyneside Omnibus Co. [used to be a Tram Co], United Automobile Services, and Newcastle Corporation buses and trolleybuses[the six wheelers] you could get a bus every five minutes at peak times, this was because of all the shipbuilding and heavy engineering industry in the area. The Tyneside electric train service ran very frequently as well, of course in those days only the well to do could afford a car. Enjoyed all the info and pics on all your posts.Wow!! [wow]Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya,  Allan

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, November 26, 2007 9:33 PM

Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

Great to see you guys, always is.

1940 on the previous, this one 1952. I call it Elmer Gantry

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=566492

My father brought home both Trains and Railroad magazine every month, and The Saturday Evening Post every Tuesday. Which reminds me, there was a Mad magazine spoof, The Saturday Evening Pest featuring an article "This Isn't Exactly What I Had In Mind" by Benjamin Franklin.

Speaking of Dad, who worked very hard to persuade Amtrak to restore the Montrealer, here's a 1975 pic of his train at St. Albans.

http://www.railpictures.net/images/a/ATK_432.JPG.15874.jpg

Page about David P. Morgan

http://rlhs.org/rrhistry/rrh188/jacklin.html

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Posted by Trainmaster.Curt on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:50 AM
That looks like a MLW S-3 on that cover! Very nice, looks like a rare find, i have a few old magazines from the 50's Trains and Railroad. My Railroad mag is from April 1958, and has the 4 year old CNR Super Continental on the front page near Bala, Ontario with an A-B set of GMD FP7-A's. My fav thing about that magazine was the In Search of the Sun tales from Harry Bedwell, with Eddie Sand the boom-mic operator and his travels, can't travel like that anymore! May'be in eastern Canada, lol
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"Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:20 AM

<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>

G'day Gents!

Tuesday at the Saloon by the Siding ‘n time to order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast. While you're at it, check out the pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n grab a mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee too! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Monday - Nov 26th:

Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:17 AM: Our most dependable regular continues to hold up the AM slot with another fine offering on this gloomy Monday in mid-continent USA. Glad to see ya, Mate! Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars, your beating your head against a stone wall, Mate. As long as we have guys who continue to acknowledge those who don't acknowledge, this crap will continue . . . Mea culpa on my part, for as Proprietor, I feel it is incumbent on my part to say "something" to each visitor frequenting the bar. But even that gets "old" in a hurry with those who simply will not join the conversations . . .

Thanx for the B&O covers from the weekend ‘n into Monday! Nice choice . . .

Only ONE Rockette Question [?] Hmmmmm, must be slowing down. <grin>

Round, visit ‘n support most appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete (pwolfe) at 1:32 PM ‘n 6:43 PM: Two visits from our Bar Chandler ‘n both most welcome at that! Things are predictably slow these days ‘n expected to remain that way as our "irregular regulars" continue to find other things to do.

If using the Consumer Price Index (CPI) for 2006, the value of $75 in the 1930s would be $905.39. Check out this URL . . .

http://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/uscompare/

That's quite a jump in value of that Lionel Hudson, eh Question [?] Ask ‘n ye shall receive! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Speaking of "Red for Danger," wonderin' how CM3 Shane is doing with it. Next on the RR Book Relay 2007  is Eric . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

And here's a <dated> link discussing the freight route between St. Louis ‘n Springfield, MO:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,666094,nodelay=1

Two mighty fine inclusive, informative ‘n interesting Posts from Wolfman Pete! Glad you're back . . . Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] And oh yeah, rounds appreciated too! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Allan (Gunneral) at 8:05 AM: New Zealand arrived! Yeah!! [yeah] Always a pleasure to see ya t the bar, Mate - ‘n the Tuis go down really well . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Yeah, having the opportunity to see Andy Williams "made" that short getaway well worth the 8 hour round trip on the highway. The guy is a "treasure" in his entertainment element . . . I used to really enjoy it when his brothers would join in at Christmastime . . . those were good times. Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for the inclusive ‘n informative Post! Round too . . . Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Mike (wanswheel) at 9:43 AM: Back for more, eh Question [?] This time with two personal URLs from our Resident MeisterMonsterMike.

Thanx for the Railroad Magazine info . . . As you probably have seen, I've been running ‘em on my "Nickel's Worth" submissions (Pages 117, 123 'n 135)  from time to time . . . good stuff. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tuesday - Nov 27th:

Trainmaster.Curt (Curt) at 12:50 AM: Great to see a visitor on board from Canada - for those of you who don't know - Transcona is in Manitoba (near Winnipeg). Nice to see someone who knows how to use the profile page! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] So many don't ‘n we're not into the "anon" crap ‘round this place. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Recommend you check us out by reviewing Page One of this Thread - the way we do things is explained there . . . then by going through at least 5 of our final Pages you'll quickly get the dr

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:10 AM

G'day Gents!

Here's a few more fotos from our Branson trip that some may find of interest . . .

Sitting at the end of the line

Frisco caboose from better times

Branson Depot

BSRX 98, Locomotive, 1951 EMD F9PH, rebuilt 1981, has HEP

(Formerly B&O, then MARC #83)

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by Fergmiester on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:10 AM

Good Afternoon Capt. Tom and Crew

Looks like a few new patrons since my last visit! Anyway I'll take a Kieth's and a Reuban with an extra pickle pLease and thanks.

Well I'm back at it and heading out to the Flemish Cap some 300 miles+ from St John's. Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't these your old stomping grounds Tom?

We'll be rearranging furniture out here until December 10th or thereabouts then back home in time for Christmas.

I realize that some of you asked sometime back of the history of the MESS. Well that's still being developed however it is loosely based on the history of the Sydney & Louisburg Railway. I dug this up from the their historical society and it's a good read. Look at the tonnage ratings! This was accomplished with a variety of old Locos such as 2-8-2's and 2-8-0's that were second and thrid hand me downs from some of the bigger US Railroads.

The first coal mine on the island was opened by the French at Cow Bay (Port Morien) in 1720, and a little more than a century later some of the first railroad track in North America was laid to facilitate the removal of coal to local shipping wharves. The mining industry developed rapidly, if a bit erratically, during the 19th century. In a thirty-six year period near the close of the century, 30 new mines were opened, including those in North Sydney and Glace Bay, with simultaneous construction of numerous small railroads connecting the collieries with the shipping ports.

The Nova Scotia government recognized the need for an outlet in Louisbourg which would link the various railroads around Sydney with Louisbourg's harbour and permit the shipment of coal at any time during the year. The first attempt in 1873 was a poorly-built narrow gauge line which failed to meet the needs of the coal companies. Few trains ever made the run to Louisbourg over the road, and in 1883 a forest fire destroyed a major portion of the roadbed.

In 1891 H. M. Whitney came to Cape Breton to establish the steel industry. The resulting Dominion Coal Company, later the Dominion Coal and Steel Company, consolidated ownership of both the numerous local coal mines and the railroads which served them. Construction was begun on a railroad to connect the collieries with Louisbourg, and upon its completion in 1895 the Sydney & Louisburg Railway was one of the most modern lines in Canada.

The volume of freight hauled by the S&L rose sharply during its early years. By the 1950's the S&L had 31 steam locomotives operating over 116 miles of track, 39 miles of which was main line. The railroad employed 400 men - hauled 4,000,000 tons of freight annually - chiefly coal, and more per mile than any other railroad in Canada. The number of passengers on the S & L, mainly employees of the mines going to and from work, reached a peak of 176,000 in 1913. The coming of automobiles reduced this traffic until passenger trains were eliminated after World War II, although mixed trains continued to run daily, except weekends.

The S&L was a neighbourly and unpretentious railroad, and it operated on a personal basis that meant a lot to the people it served. The railroad ran picnic excursions and "blueberry specials" that would stop anywhere to let passengers off, and pick them up in the evening. It took little for a hunter or vacationer to flag a train and get on, and the crews always took a lively interest in the latest news along the line. Many times, often in foul weather and blizzards, the S & L sent out a locomotive and car to take a doctor somewhere, or bring someone into hospital. There may have been more pranks and practical jokes played by S & L men than on any other line in the country, but they were tough and competent railroaders - in the early days, before air brakes, they spent many runs climbing over the icy tops of coal hoppers to brake the trains - and they moved an enormous amount of coal.

During both World Wars the ports of Sydney and Louisbourg were staging areas for Atlantic convoys and the S & L was a vital link in the supply of fuel and steel manufacture. Until the advent of regular air service to Newfoundland both ports were a terminus for rail and passenger traffic between Newfoundland and the rest of Canada.

Due to the availability of coal for fuel, the first diesel engine was not placed in service on the S & L until 1961, and the last steam locomotive was not retired until 1966. The demise of the railroad soon after resulted from the crises affecting Cape Breton's coal industry in the 1960's. The loss of industrial markets meant less coal shipped from Cape Breton and less for the rail link to Louisbourg.

"There is a land of pure delight
Where hand-fired steam still reigns,
Where mighty Mikes roar day and night,
And Moguls haul mixed trains."

In 1960 this poem introduced an article in Railroad Magazine, urging railfans to visit the Sydney & Louisburg Railway, the last all-steam Class 1 railroad in North America, before the romance of steam gave way to the efficiency of diesel power.

Anyway I must run Later All

Fergie

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:59 AM

Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffe, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

We enjoyed(?) six different kinds of weather driving back from Buffalo yesterday.  Yes, Boris, it was raining in Pittsburgh in the afternoon just like it did during the Steelers game last night.

I'm going to go back through recent posts and try and get caught up, then will resume regular posting although i will definitely be varying from my usual a.m. slot.

work safe 

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:00 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, a lunchtime visit from the Larsman, so I'll take my "usual." A ham ‘n Swiss with mustAHd ‘n buttAH on a hard grinder roll (we call ‘em hoagies where I come from) along with two large extra crunchy pickles from the barrel. Save a saucer of brine for Tex, which reminds me - Boris, feed the crittAHs! When you're done, that small jar of PPF is for you. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Ruth, a round for the house ‘n the change is for you my deAH! Wow!! [wow]

 

Really good to see the return of our Bar Chandler Pete who made the afternoon a bit more lively ‘round this joint than expected. Nice going, mate! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Now, there's lots of work to be done beginning with restocking our private cars on the siding. You, Boris ‘n Leon need to get those cars filled before week's end. <phew> No rest for the wicked weary! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

A visit from Allan from down under always brightens up the place. Appreciate the mention of the book covers, this last batch from the B&O are special in meaning for me. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Excellent background on that Nova Scotia-Cape Breton railroad from Fergie! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Nice effort and I'm sure when the guys get back here they will enjoy the write-up too.

 

Now there IS this mattAH of a <tweeting> that you received from Da Bossman back on pages 137 & reminded on 141. From 137

Monday 05 - Nov 2007:

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 6:48 AM: Really hate to do this <grin> but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do <uh oh> Grab your stern section - here it comes!

<tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> Rules Violations! Rules Violations!

Rule #1 - Failure to greet the barkeep upon entering! <grrrrrrrrrr> Rule #2 - Failure to order drink or food! <geesh> - and - Rule #53 - Suspected selective reading of the Posts! <for shame>! Penalties: Wire brush the scuppers - scour the slop chute ‘n swab the galley! <yikes> - AND - don't do that anymore! <uh oh>

Mentioning that you're going to buy a round isn't the same as DOING IT! <geesh>Vito said he'd be sending one of his boyz to fit you for some shoes <cement I think>! <ommmigosh>

 

 

As always, some fine photos from Da Bossman. An interesting passenger car that makes me wondAH . . . always like seeing a caboose! Thumbs Up [tup] FRISCO, now there's a road one didn't see very much of where I call home. St. Louis had some roads, huh Question [?] Again, nice work! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

By the way - WHERE IS ERIC Question [?] Confused [%-)]

 

 

 

Here's the last of the batch from the Larsman Mobile on the B&O . . .

 

Trackside along the B&O - 1957-58

 

B&O Steam Finale - Vol 2

 

B&O RR in the Potomac Valley

 

Triumph VI - Pioneer and Challenger - 1827-2003

 

 

Ruth, we've got some  <ahem> admin matters to attend to on your break! <blush>

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Just caught Shane's return post! Yeah!! [yeah] Glad you made it back safely 'n we're really looking forward to anything you can help out with . . . Yeah, that Steelers game was a mess, truly a sloppy mess. Then again the Pats didn't look "awesome" on Sunday, huh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Gotta use that REFRESH feature guyz - it woIks! <laff>

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Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:38 PM

Now Arriving on Track #1

A Nickel's Worth of Classic Covers!

Number Four

Caveat: Use of the images presented is made under the provisions of Public Domain. There is no intent to profit or otherwise benefit from the display of these images except for personal pleasure.

(1) RR Magazine - 1946 - The Circus on the Tracks

(2) RR Magazine - 1950 - Traveling

 

(3) RR Magazine - 1954 - Railroads of the Twin Cities

 

(4) RR Magazine - 1942 - Freight Through the Wilderness

(5) RR Magazine - 1949 - Through the Storm

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

Missed any Question [?]

#1 . . . Page 117

#2 . . . Page 123

#3 . . . Page 135

 

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Posted by Fergmiester on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:51 PM

LoveDomes wrote:

Now there IS this mattAH of a <tweeting> that you received from Da Bossman back on pages 137 & reminded on 141. From 137 [ quote] Monday 05 - Nov 2007:

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 6:48 AM: Really hate to do this <grin> but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do <uh oh> Grab your stern section - here it comes!

<tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> Rules Violations! Rules Violations!

Rule #1 - Failure to greet the barkeep upon entering! <grrrrrrrrrr> Rule #2 - Failure to order drink or food! <geesh> - and - Rule #53 - Suspected selective reading of the Posts! <for shame>! Penalties: Wire brush the scuppers - scour the slop chute ‘n swab the galley! <yikes> - AND - don't do that anymore! <uh oh>

Mentioning that you're going to buy a round isn't the same as DOING IT! <geesh>Vito said he'd be sending one of his boyz to fit you for some shoes <cement I think>! <ommmigosh>

 

Re: Rule #1 Greetings Captain Tom and Crew

Re: Rule #2 I'll have today's special... The John Wayne Special!

Re: Rule #53 Ok you dirty rat.... You'll never get me on that one. BTW would you like the scuppers primed and painted as well?

Guido has been taken care of, Nothing a $5 bill and a Kieth's won't take care of.

Anyway it's blowing 40 kts here so I won't stick around for long!

Later All

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:58 PM

Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Yes, we made it back and the K9 Korps has returned.  Buffalo train show was as good as ever with a 1:1 0-6-0 switcher available for inspection.  I was explaining to my son how the different parts of the locomotive worked and before I knew it we had about 35-40 people gathers around asking questions, etc.  It was a lot of fun.  Yes Boris, I did score two 1950-era ORGs for a total of $15.00; so a good time was had by all.

Now, let's go to press!  Always wanted to say that (lol)

Pete - I would have ridden the RS3 back to Boston if I knew it was going to be the last one I saw running.  The thing was that you never knew what they B&M would use in local freight service.  The scariest thing of all was when they ran a GP18 over that roadbed.  Talk about rock and roll.  The GP18s were the biggest power they had until they got the GP40s.  Enjoyed your Sacramento pictures, and the story abt. Llanfair.  I guess we'll have to watch "A League of Their Own" to see the Zephyr for awhile.

Allan - Thanks for the kind words.

Eric - thanks to you, also.  I liked the exotica from the Orange Empire Museum.  Also enjoyed the pictures from the Old Country.  Interesting BP tank car.  The pictures form Hamburg were good as well.  However, as for Penn Station - ARGH!  YUCK! PATOOI! 

Lars has been by with tons of material.  The NYC FT is in the first NYC diesel paint.  Excellent B&O material.  John Stover passed away quite recently.  The NC&StL has been kind of "rediscovered" lately.  There were quite a few N&C folks around when I lived in Nashville and I learned a great deal about "Grandpa's Railroad" from talking with them.  Also photographed a lot of it and rode passenger trains over it both before Amtrak and also after Amtrak when they would detour the "Fast Flying Flo" when the "Old Reliable" put stuff on the ground.  FM in Color - I remember them live!  The LV material you sent along was a good mixture as well.  Come to the rendezvous and see color shots of the snowbirds in action and in the LV shops - yes, Boris, I was there!  Giants are still good cop/bad cop at QB.  They will go into theior usual second half collapse, I'm afraind.  Right now, everyone is focused on West Virginia's achanges.  Thank you, Hogs and thank you Mizzou.

Jan has sent along a variety of historical material and pictures.  The B&O was at one time quite a presence in Fairmont.  The big steam was later replaced by geeps and lots F units.  Oakvale - very close by as is Christiansburg and Bluefield.  The C&O shots were enjoyable. The picture "east of Montgomery" is, indeed located in the GMCMA (Great Mt. Carbon Metropolitan Area)  The photo location is just west of the VGN bridge which crosses over the C&O at Deepwater, to reach the NYC (K&M yard) on the other side of the river.  I got a picture of the Chessie Steam Special in the same spot yrs ago when they were running the old RDG T1 over here.   

DD1 - Transport of Delight - excellent!

DL stopped by with comments and so did Rob with comments and pictures.

Doug - DPM writing about the FEC - lovely stuff!  I also enjoyed the lovely shot of OSP's trip to Branson on the RR Mag cover.

Fergie stopped by with some interesting S&L material - a line which many people don't know much about.

OSP has returned.  The GP30m was r/b at Huntington by the C&O (Chessie) as part of a larger r/b program.  Much of the work done to these engines was internal.  The modified battery box cover with the long vent as shown in the photo was about the only external change to them.  I remember a long  time ago posting a piece about the C&O 30s. 

Good movie choices, sir!  Also liked the picture of the Erie Alco with the car floats on the Jersey side.

Work safe

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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:41 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

ALLAN Thanks for theSign - Welcome [#welcome] back.

 I seem to remember reading a book quite a while back about the Mosquitoes that were used to guide the bombing raids, I believe they were called the Pathfinder Squadron. Have you heard of themQuestion [?]. I wish I could recall what the book was titled.Sigh [sigh]

I think it was the United bus company I was thinking off. As you say, at the time I was thinking of, in the 1950s and early1960s, it was ether bus or push bike for getting to work if you lived beyond walking distance, and a few came in by train. In my hometown Rugby it was amazing how many buses there were serving the two large factoriesWow!! [wow], even when I started in 1967 the number of bike racks at the factory would be unbelievable today. I like to see those old photos that show the number of buses or trams that used to serve the football matches at larger grounds in the old days.Yeah!! [yeah]

I guess some of the A4s were more common than others were, although I would think Newcastle was a great place to see themApprove [^] with, I suppose, some of the Haymarket (Edinburgh) A4s would change engines at NewcastleQuestion [?], I have read some of the Haymarket and Gateshead A4s were rare in the London area.

 I was fortunate to see all the ex LMS Duchesses although it was the same with the Polmadie (Glasgow) ones as they usually changed engines at CarlisleSigh [sigh], although I can recall, I think it was in the late 1950s, the Duchess hauling the Royal Scot express would work all way from Glasgow to LondonApprove [^]. Some of the Glasgow engines used to run on the North Wales coast on running in turns after overhaul at Crewe works.

I would think it would be a hard job to see all the A3sYeah!! [yeah]. Oh for them books.Sigh [sigh]

MIKE Many thanks for the photos and the link to David P Morgan and Trains magazineApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup].

It seems Mr. Morgan took over at a difficult time for the magazine with the change over from steam to dieselSad [:(]. I would like to see the circulation figures for the railway press in the UK from when steam finished there in 1968 for the next few years.

My father used to bring me a magazine called Trains Illustrated each month; thinking about this reminded me about another thing that has disappeared, that is the news seller who sold newspapers and magazine from a handcart they were found near factory entrances. I am sure ALLAN would remember them.Yeah!! [yeah]

FERGIE Many thanks for the very entertaining history of the Sydney & Louisburg RailwayApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. It sounds a line of real character, with trains stopping to pick up hunters etc., it would be interesting to know what some of those practical jokes the railwaymen playedEvil [}:)]. Thanks for sharing.Thumbs Up [tup]

Glad you will be home for ChristmasThumbs Up [tup], I hope those 40-knot winds ease soonYeah!! [yeah].  

CM3 Great to see you back. Thumbs Up [tup]

Looking forward to your posts.Approve [^]

LARS What is this about stocking ‘Private Cars'.Shock [:O] I will have to have a look in my contractBig Smile [:D]. I guess I will have to do itSigh [sigh], as I have not seen the money from the nice little earner I had when the boss was away yetEvil [}:)].

  I see FERGIE has replied to the "Tweeting"Yeah!! [yeah]. I wonder if ERIC is having computer problemsSad [:(].

Another great set of B&O bookcovers from the Larsman MobileApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Great painting of the Steam Finale coverWow!! [wow], interesting signals as well.Yeah!! [yeah].

TOM Thanks for the kind words and it was great to talk to youApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup].

 Many thanks for the calculator for the old pricesThumbs Up [tup]. I noticed in the KC Star they calculate how much the price of the items in the Christmas song The Twelve Days of Christmas have gone up in the last yearShock [:O].

That is a good link to the St Louis Springfield lineYeah!! [yeah], about three trains in each direction sounds about right from the ones I have heard and seen in Marshfield, there is one about 5PM another about 10.30PM I used to see or hear regular although I missed them on this visitSigh [sigh]. I am a bitCo<div style=

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:37 PM

Good day Tom and all at the bar. Have a drink of your choice on me.

    Allan: Thanks for the update on the "black and Tan" and the Mosquito bombers

    As the unofficial representative of all things pertaining to railroads in South America, I thought you might get a kick out of the following pieces of trivia.

São Paulo: Metrô (16/03/06, 29/06/06, 10/08/06, 25/12/06 and 25/04/07)

  
Due to new law all transport undertakings in the state of São Paulo must provide for overweight passengers  with a body mass index of over 40 (weight in kg, divided by height in cm in the square) a number of wider seats. This must be arranged within four years. For this, it is intended to use the seats up to now reserved for pregnant women, senior citizens, mothers with perambulators and users of wheel chairs. Asides from the trains also seats in stations, in buses, cinemas, theatres and entertainment places must be adapted.

Chile ranks eighth in Latin America in land area and seventh in population, but was third, after Mexico and Brazil, in number of tramway systems. It was the second country in Latin America, the first in South America, one of the first places in the world, to have a horsedrawn passenger railway on a street. Only the United States, France and Mexico had streetcars before Chile. Four trams preserved there today are among the oldest railway cars in existence in the world.

Trams ran in at least 65 cities in Chile, in more places per capita than in any other Latin American country. Many of the tram systems were small, but there were also long lines, both horsedrawn and electric, between towns and across the Atacama Desert. There were steam trams, gasoline trams, battery trams, and one of the world's first electric railways that used a center rack rail. Most of Chile's tram cars were double-deckers; it had the largest collection of these outside the United Kingdom. It had more German trams than any country except Germany, the only double-deck electric trams built in Germany, the only double-deck electric trams built in Belgium, more double-deck trams built in the United States than ran in the United States, and the only trams from the U.S. that also ran in Argentina. Its tramways used 23 track gauges. Its trams were turned on turntables. Most of its tram conductors were women.  Courtesy of Allen Morrison

   I bet you haven't seen seating like this in a RR coach. This one was in a Chilean coach

The following model train pictures for Wednesday. Notice the similarity to Lionel standard gauge and Ives trains.

These trains to scale manufactured entirely in Chile were built among 1930 and 1960, in scale 1:32. Their gauge is distinct to that of the international trains in this scale, call "1", for our wide gauge of the south railroads. 

The locomotives (series E-20, E-25 and E-28) are models of the Baldwin Westinghouse that ran among Santiago and Valparaíso and they were the first brought to the country by the Railroads of the State. 

Courtesy of Oscar Guzman

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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:18 PM

Evening Leon. I'll take a Keith's while I put my feet up. I have to say I'm not quite sure which day it is, combination of a chest cold and 8 straight days (daze) at work. Oh well one more monthSigh [sigh]

Tom-Nice to see some traditions still continuing, the ongoing saga of Canadian railways is as always a good read. Reading through your latest tome , trigged on a couple notables for myself.Harbour Grace is where Heather's grandad was born in 1902. It was the prime stop for our recent travels to the rock. It's and Carboner's stations are still there and are in good shape, neat little towns. I actually know a couple of the engineers that work for trillium's St thomas operations. Small world to be sure. Thumbs Up [tup]

I aggree with you on the F's <barf and doube barf > to modern designs five me GP's FA's and F's over any Dash whatever or SD 1,000,000'sWink [;)]Ask me what a really think Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]A couple more nice Branson shots there too sir, the ole Frisco looks to be fairly decent shape.Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars-Lots o nice B&O pics n books glad to see your bookmobile still runneth over.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]. to bad about your Giants , still it could be worse, you could be a Dolphin's fan, I mean a 3-0 loss, wow even most hockey teams score more than that.

Pete-The ole trip to Ottawa was indeed the memorable of memorable events for us. truly glad we did it even if it did cut into some cyber bar time. Loved your latest steam shots,more of Allan's work I presume Question [?]

Allan-good to see you back in again sir

Ron-Some nice info and nice shots of those old box motors. Good show at keeping the ole wednesday model day theme perpetuated.Thumbs Up [tup] Interesting pictures of those South american trams and passenger equipment.The seating in that passenger car looks more comfortable than my living room !

fergie-Uh-Oh , hopefully bosen's pipes are the only tweeting you will hear from now on .Wink [;)]Neat info on the S&L.Heather and I took in the little station and equipment museum they have in Louisberg,on our way into the Fortress museum. first time I was in Cape Breton and we loved every minute.Keep warm and dry out there Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:07 AM

<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>

Wednesday's Witticism

When wiser men are talkin', let your ears hang down and listen.

G'day Gents!

Mid-week in mid-continent USA where yesterday was a blue sky day with fall-like temps ‘n just an all around good day to be outdoors. Thumbs Up [tup] Today has the promise of a repeat performance with the high expected to reach the mid 50s (F). <nice>

Time for a mugga Joe - pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! Thumbs Up [tup]

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Tuesday - Nov 27th:

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 10:10 AM: A fine selection to EDJ-U-MUH-KAY-TUH the crew at "Our" Place - Sydney & Louisbourg Railway in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Undoubtedly a road that perhaps just you, Rob ‘n I knew about at this bar . . . maybe others, but . . .

Stomping grounds is perhaps a too kind reference to the waters you frequent. In "my day" we were assigned to Ocean Stations Alfa <note: the original phonetic alphabet of the military spelled it this way - not the "college frat" Alpha of today!> - Bravo - Charlie & Delta for 21 days on station. We also manned Echo, down Bermuda-way too. Rather than bore everyone with my recollections - check out this link to give some background "stuff" . . .

http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=2343

Many thanx for the visit ‘n business! <KaChing - KaChing> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 11:59 AM: The man called Shane (or CM3 or coalminer3) has returned! And there's quarters for Herr Wurlitzer <juke box for those who have forgotten!!> and a round for the boyz! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars (LoveDomes) at noon: A lunchtime visit from our Manager along with MORE B&O book covers from the LarsmanMobile! Wow!! [wow]

I see you've found the <tweeting> reference for our wayward Mariner Fergie! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Good to have a Manager ‘round here who keeps tabs on all things good ‘n not so! <grin>

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 2:51 PM: You Sir, are back in good graces now that you've owned up to the <tweeting> you so deservedly received! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Now, doesn't that make you feel so much better Question [?] <huh????> <grin>

Bribery will get you EVERYWHERE! So why not get Guido to prime ‘n paint the scuppers Question [?] Hmmmmmmm, better not let Vito the Hit find out about this . . . a five buck bribe Question [?] <geesh> <double geesh>

Appreciate the 2nd visit of the day while you're battening down those hatches! Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 3:58 PM: 2nd visit and this time with an inclusive Post - nicely done, Mate! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Received ‘n responded to your Email - thanx!

Many thanx for taking the time ‘n making the effort to catch up ‘n of course provide us with a second helping of quarters along with ANOTHER round! Wow!! [wow]

Pete (pwolfe) at 4:41 PM: Enjoyed speaking with you today - seems like it's been awhile. Anyway, we're caught up ‘til you swing by for our December visit to the TrainWreck Saloon! Yeah!! [yeah]

You covered lots of ground in that fine informative ‘n inclusive Post - well done!

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Posted by Fergmiester on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:06 AM

Good Morning Captain Tom and All

First things first!

 siberianmo wrote:

Stomping grounds is perhaps a too kind reference to the waters you frequent. In "my day" we were assigned to Ocean Stations Alfa <note: the original phonetic alphabet of the military spelled it this way - not the "college frat" Alpha of today!> - Bravo - Charlie & Delta for 21 days on station. We also manned Echo, down Bermuda-way too. Rather than bore everyone with my recollections - check out this link to give some background "stuff" . . .

Well had a reasonably good night as I had the spare pillow jammed under the outboard side of the bunk so I didn't take the "leap of faith" when we go rolled. Seas are building to 20+ right now and we are 240nm from St Johns and about 80nm from Flemish Cap still Sad [:(] Though winds are suppose to swing to the NW tommorrow and deminish.

 

 

 siberianmo wrote:
Bribery will get you EVERYWHERE! So why not get Guido to prime ‘n paint the scuppers Question [?] Hmmmmmmm, better not let Vito the Hit find out about this . . . a five buck bribe Question [?] <geesh> <double geesh>

I kind sire do not B-b-b-bribe! Heck no, Bride is simply beneath me, it's something you offer someone to do bad things!~

I just merely offered the man incentives to provide a positive resultBig Smile [:D]

Speaking of TWEETING! Rob Buddy... It's Boatswain! or Bos'n. Tom could have you concievably flogged for that one... And I'll be all to glad to offer advice while he's doing it

DD1 Nice love seats wonder how often they have to be cleaned?

Regarding the "Newfie Bullet". As some of you may know there are several historic sites across Newfoundland where the Diesels and cars are on display. Well on the way to the base last week in St John's we passed the Old Railway Museum on Water Street and there it was! One of the old Diesels and two passenger cars. Freshly painted in the old CN green and yellow livery and looking very smart! The diesel must have been brought in as it wasn't there last year. It's nice to see history being preserved.

Anyway I must roll!

Fergie

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:16 AM

Now Arriving on Track #1

 

Canadian Railways of the Past

Number Eight: Newfoundland Railway 

 



Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. <Information not verified>


 

 

 

Newfoundland Railway

Reporting marks

NFLD

Locale

Newfoundland

Dates of operation

1898 - 1949 (merged into CN, abandoned 1988

Track gauge

1,067 mm (3 ftin)

Headquarters

St. John's, Newfoundland

The Newfoundland Railway was a historic railway that operated on the island of Newfoundland and was the longest narrow gauge railway system in North America.

Early construction

In 1880, a committee of the Newfoundland legislature recommended that a narrow gauge railway be built from the colonial capital in St. John's to Halls Bay, 547 km (340 miles) to the west. Construction was started on the Avalon Peninsula in August, 1881 by a group of investors and by 1884, the Newfoundland Railway Company had built 92 km (57 miles) west to Whitbourne before the company went into receivership.

The same investors continued to build a 43 km (27 mile) branch line from Whitbourne to Harbour Grace which was called the Harbour Grace Railway, which was completed by October of that same year.

The colonial government undertook to build a branch from the junction at Whitbourne to the ports of Placentia and Argentia, which was done between 1886 and 1888.

Robert G. Reid

Newfoundland Railway Stamp

The colonial government sought new investors to continue the stalled project to Halls Bay and in June, 1890, Scottish-born Montreal resident and railway engineer/contractor Robert Gillespie Reid agreed to build and operate the line. By 1892, Reid's workers were approaching the halfway point at the Exploits River when the government changed the terminus from Halls Bay approximately 400 km (250 miles) further west, first to

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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:56 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, my oh my you are a loveRly sight this <and every> day! <blush> Yes, a mugga Joe with a splash will be fine for me. A round for the house ‘n treats for the crittAHs - the change is for YOU! Boris, feed the gang ‘n that small jar of PPF is YOURS! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I see Da Bossman has been busy, busy, busy this morning - as he not only provided the summary but also a fine rundown on the Newfoundland Railway of yesteryear. <sweet> Now all we need are some pix to go with it! Yeah!! [yeah] Perhaps one of our guyz can help out in that department as I'm just a bit stressed for time this morning.

Ok, I just gotta ask: What is WITH the guy called Fergie Question [?] He comes in here - provides some great material on that RR up in Cape Breton, NS - gives us all a laff with the response to the <tweeting> THEN comes back and fails to order food or drink on his next visit! Good Grief Charlie Brown, is this guy an accident waiting to happen or what Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Forgive him Bossman, for he knows not what he's doing! <grin>

Good grief, Rob - if you're gonna talk the sailor talk at least get it RIGHT - Bos'n - Bos'n - Bos'n. There now, got it Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Wow!! [wow] That's a "record" - zinging two Canadians in succession! <grin>

Yesterday was quite the day as we got two posts from Shane - two from Fergie - Rob is back ‘n of course Pete came through with a typically fine all inclusive offering. Yeah!! [yeah] Nice going guyz! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Getting concerned about Eric . . . and what's with Jan Question [?] Two Swedes AWOL! <groan>

Sorry - but I've had it with commenting on those who cannot find it within them to comment on the works of  others. Deal me out please. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Hey Cap'n Tom, I also enjoyed your "Nickel's Worth" feature. Those are great magazine covAHs ‘n the more I see ‘em the more I must agree with Pete that we just don't see artwork on rail magazines (or any others) like we used to.

Speaking of the Wolfman - I'd be less worried about extra pay and more concerned about your security ‘round here if you don't get to "it" out on the sidings! <grrrrrrrrrrr>

 

I'm beginning to lose track of the covAHs I've been posting - but what the heck - here's a few more, even if you've seen ‘em B4!! These should tickle Shane's fancy <whatever THAT is!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

C&O Pere Marquettes

C&O for Progress - The C&O at mid-20th Century

C&O Railway in the coalfields of West Virginia & Kentucky

C&O Color Pictorial - Vol 1

C&O Color Pictorial - Vol 2

 

Ruth, I'll be waiting for you on your break to take care of those <ahem> admin matters! <blush>

 

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars

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Posted by JanOlov on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:26 AM

Greetings Tom and gentlemen...

I hope that you all are feeling well and dandy. My cold comes and goes as it please, which is rather annoying. So, barkeep....please top up whatever the laddies are having with the usual cigars and something for me to take care of this cold of mine....mooaan! I've put some single malts for testing in the office, hope that you'll like them....

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....

wanswheel,  11-25-2007, 11:20 PM: That was an interesting post mate, thanks for sharing! Yeah!! [yeah] Anymore??

trolleyboy, 11-26-2007, 5:33 AM: I like that pic with 2768 doing its thing as you say. Must have been countless of rail miles hidden in the wooods... As for the steam pics, I was impressed with the spit and polish that C&O had on some of their engines....wow! Hope to see more from you! Yeah!! [yeah]

siberianmo, 11-26-2007, 12:16 PM: Yup, the book is fantastic Tom, well worth it price! Getting eager to find out more about heavies as well and not just their lighter sisters. So, #50 is still with us, that great....wish that she was in better shape though. Any plans to restore her to her former glory?

Enjoyed your Significant events in Canadian RR History as always....Thumbs Up [tup]

Da Larsman, 11-26-2007, 4:17 PM: Enjoyed your covers as always do, and found another interesting one.... Sand Patch - Clash of Titans - Cumberland to Connellsville and branches - 1837-1993, might just be a good buy me thinks....

pwolfe, 11-26-2007, 7:32 PM: Doing my best to fight this annoying cold off, comes and goes as it feel like....tiresome to say the least...thanks. Thumbs Up [tup] I absolutely love the book mate, now I need to see if I can find some more about the heavyweight limiteds....

Was thinking that when I was looking at the pics taken close to the train and engines.....what a sound it must have been, Yeah!! [yeah] really wish that I could have been there to experience that... Showroom condition indeed!

Gunneral,  Yesterday, 2:05 AM: Glad that you liked them....

siberianmo, Yesterday, 2:10 PM: Great pics matey....Yeah!! [yeah] I remember seeing somewhere that someone had built a model layout in a caboose or is my memory playing havoc with me...? 

Da Larsman, Yesterday, 6:00 PM: Some more nice covers... B&O Steam Finale - Vol 2 & B&O RR in the Potomac Valley looks interesting....

siberianmo, Yesterday, 8:38 PM: Nice Railroad Magazine covers, is the last one NYNH&H on Hellgate Bridge?

pwolfe, Yesterday, 10:41 PM: Great pics matey....Yeah!! [yeah] Those wee tank engines has a certain style....keep 'em coming.

DD1, Today, 2:37 AM: Is THAT a railroad coah!? Looks more like a smaller cinema....wow! Nice looking Lionel trains too.

siberianmo, Today, 2:16 PM: Thoroughly enjoyed your Canadian Railways of the Past Number Eight: Newfoundland Railway!  

Da Larsman, More great covers! C&O Railway in the coalfields of West Virginia & Kentucky looks interesting...

I'll be back...!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:01 PM

Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Just a quick stop as I am back to reload gear for tomorrow.  Will try and post during the afternoon, then, but Friday for sure.  Have a good evening.

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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:09 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

RON Many thanks for the very interesting post on the tramways and trams of ChileApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. 23 is certainly a large number of different gaugesWow!! [wow]. Are there many tramway museums in Chile.Question [?]

Thanks for the photos of those Chilean made model electric locomotivesThumbs Up [tup].

ROB Hope you get over that chest cold very soonYeah!! [yeah].

Many thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]; yes Alan took them. I forgot to say they were taken on May 10th this year. Alan tells me he was lucky as the event took place over a weekend, he went on the Saturday, the next day it rained heavily.Sad [:(]

Watch out for these nautical types at the barShock [:O]Big Smile [:D].

FERGIE Hope the seas moderate soon.Yeah!! [yeah]

It is real good to hear that there are several sites in Newfoundland where they have preserved locomotives and cars.Thumbs Up [tup]

LARS I was wondering how the names Boatswain and Coxswain originated.

Thinking about the artwork in railway magazines it seems to me that is now a rarity to see any railway paintings inside the railroad magazines, as well, now it seems to me,Sad [:(] Trains magazine used to have a painting as the centerfold but it seems a longtime since I saw one, it is the same with the British magazines. One reason I though of this was, a few years ago the (British) Railway Magazine had a great painting showing the ex LMS Jubilee class steam loco Newfoundland climbing the Lickey Incline in a thunderstormWow!! [wow]Approve [^].

Many thanks for those great C&O bookcoversApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I bet this weeks wages CM3 has the C&O in the Coal Fields of West Virginia and Kentucky bookYeah!! [yeah].

It's mighty cold in them sidings this time of yearShock [:O]Smile [:)].

JAN I think you are due congratulations for the 2,900th post.Bow [bow]

I hear it has been mighty wet over there and there is a lot of colds aboutSad [:(]. Alan tells me he has a bad one at the minuteThumbs Down [tdn].

Yes it must have quite a sound with those locomotives hauling a heavy load at the speed they were traveling atApprove [^]Wow!! [wow]. I wonder if there was many railfans who used to record the sound of steam locomotives in North AmericaQuestion [?].

Those Great Western pannier tanks were quite powerful for their size.Yeah!! [yeah] A few of them are still working hard today on preserved linesApprove [^]. It said in the Railway Magazine there is to be a future article on the pannier tanks work on preserved lines, it should be interesting.

CM3 It was the same in my area of England with regard to the local pick up freights, most of the time it was a locomotive very often seen but now and then it was an exotic locomotive from a depot not usually seen. This was particularly true on the local from the Birmingham area, I can remember seeing a 1,250HP class 25 diesel from a Glasgow shed, switching some freight cars, I had not seen that particular loco before. It would have been interesting to know how the locomotive had reached Rugby, it did not look as though it had been through works for a overhaul. Thanks for evoking the memory for meThumbs Up [tup].

Looking forward to your FM photos at the rendezvous Yeah!! [yeah]

TOM Thanks for the interesting link to the Ocean Weather Ships.Thumbs Up [tup] They must have been invaluable to air travel before they have been replaced by buoysYeah!! [yeah]. I see the last ship was the Norwegian one in 1980.

As you say I think you would have to ride the Branson Scenic railway twice, if going on the dining train, once to travel in one of the dome car and again in the diner.Yeah!! [yeah]

Thinking about the St Louis to Springfield MO line, seeing as there are just 3 trains each way, there must be room for a charter train to Springfield with a coach connection to Branson. All we need is a few dome cars a couple of F units or better still Alcos, if we can't get a steam locomotive. What do you sayQuestion [?]Big Smile [:D].

Many thanks for Canadian Railways of the Past on the Newfoundland RailwayThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. The line seemed to struggle money wise but was very vital in WWIIYeah!! [yeah]. Like a lot of lines it seems an improved highway spelt the

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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:31 PM

Hi Tom and all.

I'll try a Bathams XXX winter ale please RUTH.

Manager Lars asked about photos of the Newfoundland Railway. I have found this intersting link.

http://home.thezone.net/~sharvey/nfrail.htm

I also found this painting which I think ALLAN will like and maybe bring back some memories.Thumbs Up [tup].

http://www.railart.co.uk/gallery/austin22.html

I thought it is a great site with some really wonderful railway art.Approve [^].

Pete.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:53 PM

Good day Tom and all in attendance. Drinks all around please and a Guinness for me. I did a little research on "railroads on postage stamps" and came up with a few examples that I would like to share with you. I'm not sure how well they will look, but I'll give it a try. All images are courtesy of William Senkus.

   Thanks to all who have contributed fine material, which I enjoy very much. I hope I can provide you with good material also.

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Posted by EricX2000 on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:10 PM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, good to see you again. I'll have my Rumpsteak Café de Paris tonight!

Finally back here at “Our” Place. I think I should explain where I have been, not stopping by every night. I spent a number of days at the hospital after eating too much for Thanksgiving dinner. After a number of tests, ultra sound pictures and X-rays (they also took all my blood) they concluded I have gall stones. First they decided to remove the whole thing today (Wednesday) but since I am still taking blood thinning medicine after my bypass surgery last July they (they= the doctors) decided to wait until after New Years. So yesterday they sent me home with a bunch of pills (every 6 hours) and today I was back at the office. Wink [;)]

Anyway, to make a long story short, I feel pretty good but I am looking forward to have the gall bladder and the stones removed so I can start eating “real” food again without pain.

I had hoped to have some more time for this visit tonight, but a friend needed some help so this will be a short visit. I have a lot of catching up to do and will start that tomorrow.

However, I saw Tom’s pictures from the Branson train and the beautifully painted locomotive. Former MARC #83! That looked kind of familiar and here is  picture of the same locomotive from Union Station, Washington D.C. 1992. I am glad to learn it is still going strong! I showed it here not that long ago.

 

 

 

Round for the house! 

Eric

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"Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:45 AM

<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>

G'day Gents!

Thursday 'n things here in mid-continent USA have turned from terrific to <ugh> insofar as the weather 'n temps are concerned. Another gloomy forecast through the weekend . . . but, the rains are needed; we're down about 7 inches for the year.

So on that happy note - belly up to the bar, order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast, check out The Mentor Village Bakery case 'n draw a mugga coffee while you're waiting! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Comments from the Proprietor:

Congratulations are in order to Jan (JanOlov) for making the 2,900th Post at our reborn Thread called "Our" Place! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow] Yeah!! [yeah]

Aside from a bottle of "whatever" you'd like, we now must gear up for the "biggie" - the 3,000th!

Wonder who will make it ‘n when Question [?] A CONTEST! So let's see who can come up with the answer! Yeah!! [yeah]

CONTEST CLOSES MONDAY!! So let's get a move on Gents . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Wednesday - Nov 28th:

Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:56 AM: Don't know what this joint would be like without the steady hand of our Manager ensuring that we have some continuity of Postings. Another spate of book covers, this time the C&O . . . which I too suspect CM3 Shane will pick up on.

Rob "dubbed you" 1st Mate over on "my other Thread," which seems like a "natural" moniker. So from this day forth . . . you Sir are indeed, FIRST MATE! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Always appreciate the conversation, covers ‘n ROUND! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Jan (JanOlov) at 10:26 AM: A super-fine inclusive Post from our Resident Swede in Scotland! I like the way you have put together your responses - indicating the time <yours> of each Post. Nice touch! Thumbs Up [tup] Is particularly helpful when playing ‘catch-up' ...

Here's a quote from my guide book to the StL Museum of Transportation <Kirkwood> regarding B&O #50

Number 50 was the first successful, non-articulated diesel-electric passenger locomotive, delivered in 1935 by General Motor's Electro-Motive Corp. While earlier models were semi-permanently coupled to a train, Number 50 was a separate, double-ended unit, generating a total of 1,800 horsepower from its two Winton Model 201-A engines., Equipped with a steam boiler to provide passenger trains heat, the locomotive was originally assigned to the B&O's Royal Blue between Jersey City, NJ (New York City) and Washington, DC> Two years later, Number 50 and the train were sent to the Midwest and the B&O controlled Alton Railroad (later part of the Gulf-Mobile & Ohio Railroad) where, as the Abraham Lincoln, the passenger train now ran between St. Louis and Chicago. The parlor-observation car from that B&O/GM&O trainset is also in the MOT collection. In 1945, the pioneer engine was placed in local freight service. It was subsequently rebuilt again and powered Chicago-area suburban trains until retirement in 1956. It was saved from a scrapyard in 1958 when it was donated to MOT by GM's Electro-Motive Division, General Electric, and Hyman-Michaels Co.

That's the best I can do regarding questions about #50 . . . she looked to be in fair condition <see the photo I provided> when we viewed her during Rendezvous II. Whether she runs or not - I don't know. Perhaps when Pete ‘n I revisit the place in December, someone may be able to tell us . . .

Good observation about that magazine cover . . . sure looks like Hellgate to me, and NYNH&H would be my guess too. Thumbs Up [tup]

Round ‘n generosities appreciated . . . Yeah!! [yeah]

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 3:01 PM: Glad you were able to provide us with a little something for the PM! Thumbs Up [tup]

As always, round ‘n quarters mean a lot to this joint ‘n those who frequent it! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Pete (pwolfe) at 4:09

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:59 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, a chill in the air but lotsawarmth here at the bar with you tending to it! <blush> A mugga Joe with a splash if you please. Treats for the crittAHs - Boris feed the gang ‘n the small jar of PPF is YOURS! A round for the boyz ‘n the change is for YOU! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Another decent day here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside as Cap'n Tom's 1st Mate checks in for the daily this ‘n that! <grin>

Really good to see the return of our Desert Swede, but not pleased to learn of the health issues. <groan> You've had a time of it in 2007, Eric - let's hope 2008 is a far bettAH year for you in all respects. Yeah!! [yeah]

A contest for the 3,000th post - ok - put me down for Cap'n Tom will do it on Pearl Harbor Day - Dec 7th . . .

I think Wolfman Pete likes to ask questions that he can easily find the answers to just to keep some of us on our toes. <grin> But, here's the info you requested about Coxswain ‘n Boatswain:

The coxswain (pronounced cox'-en) is the person in charge of a boat, particularly its navigation and steering. The etymology of the word gives us a literal meaning of "boat servant" since it comes from cox, a coxboat or other small vessel kept aboard a ship, and swain, which can be rendered as boy, in authority.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coxswain)

A boatswain (often bosun or bos'un) is a member of the deck department of a ship. On naval vessels, the boatswain is a warrant officer or petty officer. On merchant ships, the boatswain is the foreman of a ship's deck crew and is sometimes also third or fourth mate.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain)

And in return you provided me with a fine link to the Newfoundland Railway pix . . . we're "square," mate! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Noted the return of our Swede in Scotland, Jan - glad you're finding my book covAHs of interest.Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

An observation from the Crow's Nest: One again Cap'n Tom's way of handling newcomers to the bar seems to be working. A few days ago one of the "drive bys" stopped by with a "one way" post. No "hello" - no attempt to meet the guys - just dropped something off, then skedaddled. Da Bossman included him in the morning summary with a pending welcome and so forth. Haven't seen the guy since. Happens more times than not, huh Question [?] Point is - let Cap'n Tom be the "greeter," and avoid the "backflips" just because someone stops by.

Time again for some C&O covAHs from the Larsman Mobile . . .

C&O Diesel Locomotives - 1949-1972

Chessie The Railroad Kitten

The Chessie Era

C&O Coal and Color

Ruth, I'll be waiting for you on your break to take care of those <ahem> admin matters! <blush>

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:02 AM

   Good day Tom and all in attendance. Drinks all around, except possibly for Eric. I'm sorry to hear of your digestive problems and the hospital stay. I hope you will be better soon. I'm on a blood thinning medication also, after my artery stent implants, so I've had to have other procedures postponed (colonoscopy). I used to dread anything that resembled an operation, but so much has improved in the past 30 years in the medical field, that I'm no longer apprehensive about medical procedures, so your future procedure will be a piece of cake.

   I haven't had the opportunity to prepare anything for today, but maybe later, I can come up with something to inform or at least amuse you.

   The model engine is starting to come together. I've received all the materials I had to order, so it's a matter of putting it all together. I enjoy what I'm doing, as it combines engineering, innovation, research, design and manual dexterity, things that stimulate my little grey cells.

   Until later, Ron

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"Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:27 PM

G'day Gents!

Ruth, go ahead and take the afternoon off - yeah, I know you have to attend to those <ahem> admin matters first - but after that, be gone! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Lars stopped by 'n almost immediately after, so did Ron. My guess is our Mississippi Gentleman didn't see Lars' Post - nor did Lars see his. Gotta use that REFRESH feature BEFORE checking out, gents! . . . . Anyway, nice to see the both of you today. Thumbs Up [tup]

A slow day and perhaps a few fotos from the Branson Scenic Railway might shake a few guys outta the trees! <grin>

The Silver Garden dome, as we began our southward journey from Branson to Arkansas

Ozark country from the dome

Emerging from a tunnel

Train shots from the dome

 

Approaching the 2nd tunnel

Note: Sorry 'bout the less than brilliant shots on such a lovely day - dome glass needed replacing - cleaning would've been a novel thought too!

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That's All Folks! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo

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