G'day Gents!
Thanx Lars for providing some <ahem> company for Ruth this morning! <grin> Looks like we're back to the Feast or Famine days <daze> at the Bar by the Ballast - at least in the daylight . . . <groan>
Continuing on with Pix from Day Four: Sunday - May 27th, 2007 - ExpoRail Canadian Railway Museum at Delson/Saint-Constant, Quebec, Canada
Montreal Transportation Commission (MTC #997) Streetcar - Built in Ottawa (1911)
Canadian Pacific Railways (CPR #5935) Selkirk 2-10-4 - Built by Montreal Loco Works (1949)
Canadian National Railways (CNR #55063) single track snow plow - Built by Canadian Car & Foundry (1919)
Toronto Suburban Railway (TSR #8) open streetcar - Built by Patterson & Corbin (c. 1895)
Canadian Pacific Railways (CPR #4563) M-630 - Built by Montreal Loco Works (1969)
Canadian National Railways (CNR #6153) Northern 4-8-4 - Built by Montreal Loco Works (1929)
London, Brighton & South Coast Railway (LB&SC #54) Waddon - Built at Brighton (1875).
St. Laurent & Atlantique Quebec (SLQ #3569) M420W - Built by Montreal Loco Works (c. 1970)
To be continued . . .
Tom
Afternoon all, round of Speakeasy ale for all...Down Boris, I do not believe mating season is upon us!!!
Just a few quick acknowledgements:
Tom: Great job with the ongoing Candian theme, very informative.
Eric: I do know there is a X2000 video, where it was shot is unknown to me, I believe Pentrex is the producer, check the website www.pentrex.com.
As for that smokebox color, I do agree it is a tad dark, depending on era it could be graphite (as delivered), silver (post 1946) or whiteface (post 1951) some research would pin down exact dates if one were so inclined.
CMSTPP: Glad you enjoyed the post, feel free to inquire in the future, that's why we keep the bar running, to discuss and remember the golden age of railroading, as you well know we have a fantastic crew with diverse, broad knowledge here at "Our Place".
Domes: I don't know about those 10 year olds, they are more in tune then I was at that age. Teleprompters are a hold over from the industrial age of the Soviet Union!!! Nuff said!!!
Well gotta run for now, enjoy the day
Dave
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Batham's please RUTH
DAVE Great to have our SP expert back. I imagine the 4-10-2s had a good turn of acceleration when working the commute passenger services. I bet they made a great sound, do you know what the average load was on those commute services.
Do you know if there were any foreign locos at that Pan- Pacific Expo The British locomotives that toured North America in the 1920s and 30s have survived. Great Western No 6000 King George LMS No (4) 6229 Duchess of Hamilton (masquerading as 6220 Coronation) and LMS No (4) 6100 Royal Scot, although this loco is in its rebuilt state.
There have been a few SP diesels through here lately, although with UP numbers, usually on the rear of coal trains. I have not seen a SP numbered loco for quite a while, I guess they are getting scarce now.
Thanks for the round
JAMES Some of the LNER A4 Pacifics, of which 60010 Dominion of Canada is one, were named after parts of what was the British Commonwealth. I think there were close ties with the locomotive and Canada,with the 60010 carrying a Canadian chime whistle for a time, after the loco finished service with British Railways it was donated to Canada.
Another of this class was named Dwight D Eisenhower and this loco is in the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay Wisconsin. There are 4 others of the class preserved including the steam speed record holder "Mallard". Very shortly it will be possible to see 3 A4s running main line tours in Britain as 60007 Sir Nigel Gresley (The 100th LNER Pacific to be built and named after their designer) will join the newly restored, after many years and soon to go on the main line, 60019 Bittern and long time main line stalwart 60009 Union of South Africa.
That is an interesting question about the ‘bumpers' they are called buffers in the UK. I wonder if the very early American locomotives had buffers. I have looked back on some photos of old locos and it seems the center coupling provided the buffing force as well.
In the UK the old locomotives and the wagons just had a three-link coupling and the locomotive or tender buffers took the strain from the wagons when braking the train as the wagons were only fitted with hand brakes. Later there was the screw coupling, which had not the play in it of the three link but did not take the braking strain. Of course today the buck-eye coupler is in use on most cars and the modern units do not have the traditional buffers.
ERIC I have not heard of any other Corridor tenders, apart from a LMS one used for loco testing, than those Gresley ones fitted to the A3 and A4 s for the non-stop one. The tender behind the newly restored A4 Bittern as, I believe, been modified to a corridor one. I am trying to find out if the non-corridor tender fitted to 60008 in Green Bay is the last remaining Gresley 8-Wheel tender of that type, but with no luck at the moment.
The Irish locomotive of the class had the name in old Irish Script. The English spelling is Maeve. A link to the locos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSR_Class_B1a
I did not do too good in the quiz, glad you are on the Dart team.
I think Tom was thinking one of two things.
A; "I will never get him away from this engine" or
B; "When we go he will want me to help him take it with us".
Glad you liked the photos, unfortunately not as many as I liked came out well. I will put a few more in, thanks.
Great photo of #5021
LARS Many thanks for the link to the Steamtown Museum. Although some of the locos have moved we owe a great debt that they were saved in the first place. I too have ridden behind the ex Southern Railway (GB) ‘Schools' class No 30926 Repton on the NYMR. Also for a time it was on the persevered Great Central Railway, as the article says the Schools were strong for a 4-4-0 but did have a tendency for slipping.
The museum in Quebec is well worth a visit. Tom and I were very lucky as it was a special day at the museum the day we went. The volunteers there were very helpful and friendly and it must have one of the best café views in the world for a railfan. If you do go make sure you get to see the IMAX cinema, words cannot do it justice.
One of these days, if we win the lottery, we will have to have a rendezvous in England and we will have to try the Bathams on the Severn Valley Railway.
TOM Yes we will miss CM3, while he is on vacation.
Afternoon PWolf, hanker up to the bar and have one on me.
You pose an interesting question, on the SP commute route tonnage ability was not a factor, what was require was the necessary acceleration to maintain three minute headways. This is the primary reason steam lasted well into late 1957 on these runs, no single diesel (and SP was intent on single unit diesel operation whenever possible) until the thundering Trainmaster were transfered west, could match any class of steam power in rapid acceleration , of course SP was also flush with rebuilt and new secondhand steam and the support facalities. so it was a simple choice of early diesels lacking the performance. For example the Geep nines was rated at three Harriman coaches or five double decks max, otherwise it would quickly fall behind schedule, huff "n" Puff, the two commute SD sevens could do no better, hence the nickname.
I admit to needing to do more homework on the Pan-Pacific Expo, it was a international forum for all nations who wished to attend (perhaps not the Central Powers!) I would not doubt the presence of some type of foreign rail exhibits, maybe not locomotives or rolling stock, due to shipping demands and Europe in a state of open conflict.
I too fear the days of scarlet and grey are drawing to a close, between retirements and not being tier 2 compliant all such units are falling by the wayside everywhere in favor of green power. Some hope for our older friends my remain, Sweden does manfacture an aftermarket kit to upgrade older power to current emission standards. American railroads seem interested in the technology, time and money will tell
G`day Tom and all at "Our" place reborn,
Greetings from 'The Land of the long white cloud" or "Aotearoa" as the Maori call New Zealand. Have been "missing in action" due to domestic circumstances! Drinks all round please Ruth.
Tom. Your pics and URL`s are great.
Lars. I have travelled by rail in NZ over the years, used to take "The Southoner" a named train that used to run between Christchurch and Invercargill, it was taken off about two two years ago by Toll as uneconomic. Had several trips on "The Kingston Flyer" a vintage steam operation near Queenstown, the trains are vintage consist and hauled by two immaculate AB Pacifics, same as pictured in Mike`s NZ URL`s. Have a look at http:www.kingstonflyer.co.nz you will find some great pics.
Mike. Your URL`s of NZ were great, looks like one loco driver stopped for a"Big Mac". Have been to "Steam Incorporated" where the AB Pacific is stabled. The NZ Pacifics have an interesting history as the Q class of 1901 were claimed to be the first in the world so named, their was a forum about this in the MRR General Discussion titled "Trivia Question:first Pacific class loco" July 7th 2004. A good NZ rail site is http:trainweb.org/nzrailheritage/ by Patrick Dunford it covers a lot history.
Pete. You were right about the rail museums in Geordieland, I hear the ropeway is now fully operational again. Your Leyland railcar threads are very interesting, over here they ran various locally made types, the last one`s were taken off service in the 1980`s, several have been preserved.
Dave. Welcome back!
Tom. G`day is the standard greeting here in NZ and. Australia of course, and the standard farewell is "Hooray" or "See ya"
See ya all, Allan
G-day Tom and all present!
Leon- Could I get an OJ (I know, I need something more than coffee) and a turkey sandwich. Thanks!
Well, I'm back to finish some more acknowledgements. I am now on page 72 and working my way back. Plus acknowledgements from the current page.
Tom- Thanks for all of the great pics from you train ride to Montreal. There were some pretty nice shots including the photo above the water. As you said it was Brunswick scenery, but what bridge did you cross Also thanks for the shot inside the renaissance car. That certainly is a great looking car. The interior of the car is just fantastic. Thanks for the pictures. Also thanks for the second round of pics from the ride to Montreal. Some great scenery and great looking town shots. It looks to me that Pete was enjoying himself in the diner.
Oh and sorry for confusing you with the S2 comment..... What I was trying to say was, I haven't seen one built by MLW..... So, now I'm starting to wonder why I didn't say that in the first place.. hmmm... got to be the coffee... Leon, make sure I get another OJ, Thanks.. Okay, So I didn't know that Canada and Britain were like eggs and ham.. So I should probably hit the books and read up on this.. Well the next time I see a British loco in Canada, I can say I was taught by the best, right?!
Thanks for the significant events in Canadian RR history. There's always some good stuff to look at. I was really surprised that back in 1909 (before I was born...) The CPR completed that Viaduct that was almost a mile long!!! And 320 feet high too!!! WOW, I wonder how long it took them to build that one? Some good stuff, fer sure! Thanks.
Thanks for all of the great photos from the Exporail Canadian railway museum. Ooohh, I see one of the M-630s..... What a pretty neat locomotive. Can I get behind the throttle of that one And another MLW loco stuck in there. Some great looking pics. And I see a Wedge plow. But made of steel. I bet that one could move some snow! Thanks for all of the pics
CM3- Vacation, and you didn't invite me... Well, all of us will miss you, so until then, have FUN!!! I noticed that you have run a locomotive simulator. At the museum in Duluth, they have a locomotive simulator and it runs. It's the Wisconsin Central training simulator. I have run it for the public and I am able to run whenever I want. So whenever you guys choose to come up this far North... well, I guess this isn't as far North as you think.. but far enough. But whenever that is, I can certainly have you run it.
Lars- Thanks for all of the great book covers. Not just one railroad this time either. I always like seeing a whole bunch of different railroads. That book called rights of passage looks like a good one. Just the picture of that old rusting rail and wheel makes me want to read it. Some neat covers indeed. Thanks for showing. Ya I see I got some here confused with the S2 comment, but I hoped I fixed that.... It's just a cool little locomotive. I would love to run one of those. Well, when "Our" RS-1 is complete, I will be one of the first to run it.. definitely.
Pete- Now that was a joke in a million.. Bing Crosby sings and Walt Disnae...?! Does not? How do get Does not out of Disney?? Kind of funny! Anyway, I can tell you right now, If I lived closer to Kansas City than I do right now, I would definitely go and see the 844 come though town. I already missed the 261 in Duluth the beginning of June.. I don't want to miss it again.
Thanks for the explanation of the 60010. Now I know why some are in Canada. I'm interested in what type of a Canadian Whistle it had on it. Some interesting stuff. Also thanks for the little history behind the those locos. I am surprised one was named after one of "Our" former Presidents. Why did they do this? Did he nominate the locomotive I Should see it one of these days. I come within a 100 miles of it each year; I might have to venture up there and see it in person. That would be cool.
So there called buffers. Hmmm. Well lets see, I remember a few logging railroads back in the 1880s and 90s having these.. I will have to look more into this. Kind of an interesting topic. So they used chain links to hook the cars up at one time. Interesting. Wait.... Could the buffer have been used for a cushioning affect. Lets say the train jolted, could this have absorbed some of the jolt?? Hmm now that's a question to look up. As you said they took the strain of the train when braking, I'm also wondering if it wasn't also a cushion of some type. Cool stuff.
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hm, I'll have a Sugar Cured Ham Sandwich, please! Leon, tell Ruth I won't give out that phone number!
Two days left of the work week and then 5 days off!! That will be nice!
Tom – Snow on Mt. Mentor? I thought all the snow was gone by now. I am afraid I can’t give away her phone number. Ruth asked me not to give it to Manager Lars and she looked at me with her big eyes when she asked that. Life is rough, but there are certain things a man can’t do. Deer in the headlights? No, it couldn’t be. British locomotives did not have any headlights at all those days when that locomotive was running. Check your picture with Pete, no headlights. I guess the Chigneto Marine Railway never was completed and no ships were carried on it? Quite a few interesting things happened during the month of June over the years. Worst railway accident with 99 lives lost is a sad one. More nice pictures from ExpoRail! Including some streetcars for Rob (and me!).The open streetcar (TSR #8) is obvioulsy out of power. They have to let the trolleypole higher up! CPR # 5935 is kind of streamlined! And another British loco, LB&SC #54. Looks like a small one. Lars – If I understand you right there is no museum in Bellows Falls any more, correct? I saw one British steam locomotive on one of the pictures and they also mentioned another British or Irish loco. Something for Pete to research. Or DL and Nick.Sorry, but Ruth already told me not give you any phone number. And I don’t think you would like me to make her disappointed? Or...?You have photos? Let’s see a few!! Dave – Thanks for the info, but I already have the Pentrex video. That video was shot along the NEC. What kind of aftermarket kit does Sweden manufacture? Do you know the name of the manufacturer? Pete – I think Tom was thinking both A and B, but more like: “Hmm, I don’t know what is worse, wait for him (you) while he is petting that old steamer or having to say No when he wants to take it with him home.” I’ll see you have the same Waddon pictured as Tom! What kind of service was that class used for? Allan – G’day, nice to see you again!! I also saw that picture of the train “parked” outside McDonald’s. The engineer probably had two Big Macs! I have to go to the “World of Maps” and get me a good map of NZ so I can find the places you are talking about. James – I know how to run the Swedish State Railways’ locomotive simulator and I have tried it myself several times. It’s a very good one, built in Canada.Honestly, I don’t remember asking a question about wheels. I looked back a number of days and couldn’t find any. But my memory is not the best... Among those Burlington cars there was a RPO-car that had a similar arrangement with its generator. Burlington ROP “Silver Pouch”.
Eric
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A rainy day here in mid-continent USA as we've finally gotten a brief respite from the drought that has been with us for the past couple of years. Not severe, but the rainfall has been far below the "norm" . . . Ah, time for breakfast! Check out the <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts listed on the Menu Board - draw a mugga coffee and sample a pastry from The Mentor Village Bakery Case! <ummmmmm>
Cards can't win for losing, or something like that, as the rains in New York were definitely in favor of the home team - 2 -zip win in 5 ½ innings. However, when facing Mr. Glavin - they might as well stay in the dug out! <groan>
Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):
Lars at 10:47 AM Wednesday - June 27: Can always count on our Manager to "liven" things up ‘round the joint! <uh oh> So, let me pour some "oil" on those waters . . .
First: Our Chicago Rendezvous is not in peril - it's ON! Doug is experiencing a difficult time with "time management" and simply cannot dedicate what he feels is proper time to resume his activities with us. Should this continue into "months," then there will be cause for concern - but not yet. It does present a puzzling situation, however, and I'm surprised that he hasn't stopped by for even a "hello" lately . . .
Second: Our Ontario Connection is pretty much in the same boat as Doug. So, that's just the way it IS. I am surprised that Rob hasn't bothered to check out the 2nd Annual "Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis fotos AND equally puzzled why he hasn't made an appearance especially with the ongoing Pix from the Canada Rail Adventure with Pete - but such is life. It's ALWAYS the choice of the individual when it comes to "playing" in the Ether . . .
I am more puzzled by Rob's repeated absences than with Doug . . . but these two guys were integral in keeping "Our" Place going during the summer of 2006 when I decided to shut it down. Now, less than a year later . . . Go figure that!
I strongly suggest that if ANYONE has "concerns" about these two, SEND THEM AN Email . . . a bit of "personal touch" may spring ‘em lose. I've done all I'm going to do regarding this.
Many thanx for the link about Bellows Falls. We too visited the place in 1968-69 while living up in the Boston area. It was a fine time and the kids got a kick out of riding the steam excursion train - long gone, fer sure, fer sure. Any Pix I have of that experience are all on 35mm slides and "doomed" to remain in the boxes they are in.
If I had those Lionel ‘n American Flyer trains, they'd be on a layout - pronto quick! How hard do you think it would be to build a simple 4x8 with two ovals - one for the Lionel ‘n the other for the S-gauge AF??? <geesh> You could use "my" ceiling suspended design and hoist ‘em up to the rafters when no longer being "played" with . . . <double geesh>
When does the NFL season begin
Thanx for the round!
Dave at 3:37 PM Wednesday - June 27th: One thing that has come back to me IS: I can never tell exactly what you've been looking at when reading your Posts . . . don't know if you've seen the MOST CURRENT, or are ‘somewhere' back on the Pages. Puzzling.
Anyway, a most welcome and surprising mid-week visit from our Left Coast Connection! We're really not having a Canadian "theme" so much as if you are referring to the fotos - it's a continuing display of the Canada Rail Adventure with Pete (last month) - and if you're referring to the Significant Events "list" - well that's just a monthly feature.
Wondering if you've been able to check out the Pages of Rendezvous fotos from our get together in St. Louis (May 17th - 19th) - well worth the skimming . . .
WHAT are you ‘n Lars talking about with this "kids" stuff??? Where did THAT begin??? Lost me there too. <geesh> I better stick to the hard stuff . . . <grin>
By the by: I'd surely appreciate an Email from you regarding your experiences with my old outfit over in Iraq. I sent you a couple of requests - but figured you never got ‘em, also made mention of it at the bar, but again, figured you weren't able to get online. Anyway, wondering about your involvement with the USCG and how all of that came together. No need to do it here - Email would be far better. Thanx!
Round appreciated!
Pete at 6:46 PM Wednesday - June 27th: You may find this hard to believe, but I've never viewed Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - so your question will require answering by someone who has! <grin>
Yeah, I was beginning to wonder whether we'd somehow have to come up with a plausible explanation to the Customs people why we were bringing a British Rail locomotive back to the states . . .
Just a minor "point of order" - the ExpoRail museum is geographically located in Saint-Constant, Quebec . . .
Looking forward to more of your Pix from our trip . . .
Dave at 8:00 PM Wednesday - June 27th: For Pete . . . enjoyed the eavesdropping, but must admit, a bit too technical for the likes of Moi! <grin>
Allan at 9:21 PM Wednesday - June 27th: Our Down Under Connection has reappeared! Glad you found your way back and hope that whatever kept you away was more pleasant than not . . . Have one on the house!
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH I'm running just a bit late today, but wanted to swing by to see your lovely face! <blush> Drinks on me - treats for the crittAHs and I'll take a Schaefer - slide the snack tray down my way, wudja?? <grin>
Good to see the return of Allan from NZ to the bar! Thanx for the continuing info on the rail travels - MORE, if you please???
Some interesting comments along the way from our guys, Eric - Dave - James - Pete ‘n Tom. Sorry if I've left anyone out - just in a hurry this day. <groan>
Love those pix from the Expo Rail museum, keep ‘em coming!
Sorry if I've "tweaked" anyone regarding my comments - BUT - sometimes things just are going to be said. That's the way I am - nothing personal, gents!
Gotta run and I'll try to do bettAH tomorrow!
Until the next time!
Lars
Ahoy Cap'n Tom!
Back again - and this time with a few pix for our friend Allan in NZ!
Sorry for the "rush job" today - I've tried to squeeze far too much effort into so little time. Really being pushed for time . . .
Ruth my deAH, another frosty mug of brew if you please!
I've tried to put together a NZ "thing" today and all I've gotten has been total FRUSTRATION! <arrrggghhh> <double aaarrrggghhh> Anyway, hope these "work"
A JA class locomotive on an excursion. Photo by Joseph Christianson. (Creative Commons/Wikipedia.com)
A Veolia-operated ADL class DMU at Britomart Transport Centre. (Creative Commons/Wikipedia.com)
A Tranz Metro EM/ET class EMU at Epuni. (Creative Commons/Wikipedia.com)
An EF class locomotive in the Tranz Rail "bumble-bee" livery hauling container wagons on the North Island Main Trunk. (Wikimedia Commons/Wikipedia.com)
"Bumble bee" DX class locomotives heading a coal train on the Midland Line. (GNU Free Doc/Wikipedia.com)
Two visits from our Manager - rushed or not, always good to have the Larsman aboard!
VIA Rail LRC loco (light, rapid, comfortable) #6921. Built by Bombardier (c. 1980)
Canadian National Railway (CNR #6742) M-U Trailer. Built by Canadian Car & Foundry (1952)
Building #5 "Rolling stock open reserve"
"Stuff"
National Harbours Board (NHB #1002) S-3 Port of Montreal - Built by Montreal loco works
Canadian Pacific Railway (CPR #6218). RDC-4. Built by Budd (c. 1950)
CPR #90 - RDC-1. Built by Budd (c. 1950)
VIA Rail EMD FP9A #6309. Built by EMD (1957)
VIA Rail #15513 Sibley Park observation dome car - Built by Budd (c. 1950)
Hi Tom and all
Not had too good a morning so I'll have a Bathams XXX please RUTH.
DAVE Many thanks for the early diesels versus steam on the commute trains. It is something sometimes overlooked today that steam locos that were designed for suburban and commute workings often had a good rate of acceleration from stops. The 3 minute headways were similar to the service worked into and out of London's Liverpool Street Station steam hauled commuter trains, known as the ‘Jazz' trains, in the morning and evening rush-hours before the services were electrified.
That is an interesting point about the emissions. I may be wrong but it seems to me that the Class 1 railroads are buying larger new locomotives and the local freights are being worked by the much older smaller locos, which I guess are not too emission friendly. The railways will have to find a way of making these locos cleaner or order new smaller locos, as there must be places that the track will not take one of the larger diesel classes.
ALLAN Thanks for the links to the NZ photos, there certainly is some great photos there.
Glad you enjoyed the Leyland railcar threads, I leant a good bit about the prototypes myself.
I was reading a British steam magazine and realized it was 40 years later this year that British Railways steam ended in the North East of England. The magazine has a special section this month as it was 40 years at the start of July that the Southern Region of BR ended steam and with it the last BR regular steam into London. I believe that steam was still used in the North East at collieries for a few more years.
JAMES As far as I can tell UP # 844 is arriving on Monday morning July 2nd and is going to be on exhibition at Union Station Kansas City. I believe the loco leaves on Thursday July 5th. I am seriously thinking of taking Amtrak over from here to K.C to see 844.
I think Dwight D Eisenhower was named before he was President. He was Allied Supreme Commander in Europe and that is why No 60008 was named. If you can get to Green Bay is a really great Railroad Museum. With No 60008 at the museum are two cars that were part of the command train used by General Eisenhower in World War II. Also in the same hall at the museum are an UP Big Boy and a GG1 electric locomotive.
Yes you are right about the buffers having a cushioning effect in the early wagons there were springs behind the buffers, later there was a hydraulic arrangement to provide the cushioning. It was quite a sight watching the shunter uncouple the wagons with three link couplings when a train was being marshaled in a freight yard. It was done with a long pole with a hook on the end. This pole was used to couple the wagons; as well it was quite an art to do it.
It would be great to have a go on the simulator at your museum.
ERIC The other British locomotive at Steamtown was an ex London & Southwestern Railway class M7 0-4-4 Tank locomotive with the BR number 30053. This class was originally introduced in 1897. They would be used on Suburban duties out of London Waterloo station until the suburban lines were electrified then on empty stock workings and ex L&SWR branch lines. After the formation of the Southern Railway at the grouping of 1923, the class was to be seen on the other companies lines that formed the SR. In 1958 No 30053 was allocated to Brighton, which was part of the London Brighton & South Coast Rly before the grouping
Waddon was another locomotive used for the London suburban services although this time for the LB& SCR. These 0-6-0 tanks were introduced in 1872 as class A1; they were rebuilt in 1911 as class A1X. The reason quite a few had long lives was some found duty at the Southern railway works as shunters, and their use on branch lines where their weight of 28 Tons 5 cwt allowed tem to work where heavier locos could not. A famous example was the Hayling Island branch in the south of England that had these locos working until the 1960s.
Iam sure NICK can add more to the A1Xs and Waddon
Thanks for the photo of the Silver Pouch Mail Car.
LARS Thanks for the drink. No mention of the METS today.
Many thanks for the photos of the locomotives and trains in New Zealand. They seem to have some interesting stock thereThe EF is a design of loco I had not seen before, although the DX class, in the last photo looks very North American to me.
TOM It was great to talk to you this morning. You helped to restore my normal humour thanks. And thanks for the computer tips you gave me as well much appreciated. .
That is a good link to the Victoria Bridge, (although it said that Robert Stephenson "the son of the designer of the Rocket locomotive George", it is generally accepted that Robert designed the Rocket.) Messrs Peto, Brassy and Betts were a famo
Good evening Ruth and crew! I'll have a bottomless draught, and buy a round for the house. I dug my old barstool out of the basement, and aside from needing a good dusting, it seems its old sturdy self. Sure do miss the time I used to be a regular around here. Like Tom said on the previous page, my absence has nothing to do with anything other than time management, and I still don't have that under control. Too many home projects and other responsibilites are very effectively keeping me off the internet.
My absence here also has nothing to do with the Chicago Rendezvous. I'm looking at stuff for us to do all the time, you can be sure. All I can say is ya'll better be taking your vitamins and getting in shape now, 'cuz we'll be starting early and retiring late! Details will be communicated to Tom, and then to the rest of ya'll who are on the list.
Couldn't help to but notice that good friend Dave made a recent appearance!
Nifty Canadian pix from the Captain. The museum pix are outstanding. They got me to thinking of visiting another museum in nearby Wisconsin. Hmmmm .... perhaps on Saturday ......
Have a great evening gentlemen!
Leon- An OJ please, and a turkey sandwich. Thanks!
Well, I see Tom asked if we ever get sleep up this way.. My answer would be yes, except I have a hard time staying up until 12:00 midnight. Believe me; I only do it for this place. I have way to much fun to quit. Of course right after, it's to bed. But I do enjoy coming around here and discussing all the neat stuff that goes on here.
Eric- Well, on page 72, it was more like a quiz question about wheels on the passenger car. So I answered it to the best of my ability. It helps when you have family members and books teach you this stuff. All neat indeed. So you have run a simulator before. It's good to hear I'm not the only one here. Most simulators today have hydraulic movement so it makes it more real. Our simulator doesn't have that but it is cool.
Tom- Thanks for the link to the Victoria Jubilee bridge. A very neat, old and long bridge.... But I'm afraid that, that bridge doesn't even scratch the one that I know. I see it every year as I go to Fargo ND, and as far as I know, it is the largest bridge in Minnesota if not in the United states. The Stock wood fill was a bridge that spanned 8 miles in length. It is now covered in dirt but the old bridge is indeed still underneath the tons of dirt.
Check this link out: http://www.ndsu.nodak.edu/instruct/schwert/stockwd/stockwd1.htm This shows how it was made and what has happened over the last 100 years. The Northern Pacific railway once owned this but is now under control by BNSF.
Your saying goes perfectly with what I was trying to say. I will have to remember that. Thanks. And some more nice pics form the Expo railway museum in Canada. They certainly have an extensive collection of Canadian railway history. Always good to see some older stuff preserved for generations to see.. Like me!! The RDCs looked GREAT!! I always love seeing those old cars around. Makes me glad we have one working here in Duluth. A question for you. Do they have an excursion trains With all that equipment you'd think they would have one. Thanks again.
Lars- Good to see you back with some more fine pics to share with us today. I see you looked FAR and WIDE to find these pics. I'd say you did a good job. I don't recognize any of the equipment but it is cool. The very bottom pic looks like some locos from Australia. But I'm guessing there in NZ. Anyway, good show from you, Thanks!
Pete- Well, Thanks for the history behind the Eisenhower steamer. I might need to make a trip up there this year. I should have gone deep into my mind back to my American History days <daze> because I do remember that he was a general before becoming the president. Interesting indeed.
Hmm chain links and a hook on a long stick. I'm thinking that, that had to be a dangerous job at one time. I don't know if I could rely on the hook n' stick doing the job.. but I don't know if you would have been able to reach those chains. Some interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Happy railroading
James
Leon, I would like my favorite, Rumpsteak Café de Paris! Fries! Coffee would be perfect!
Friday!!! Friday afternoon at 5 is the best time of the week! Even more so this Friday, I am going to have five days off!! Perfect!
Tom – I know there is always snow on Mt. Mentor, but it should not be enough for a slide this time of the year! Thanks for the info on Chigneto! Have you ever been in that neighborhood and seen the remains? The link took me to an interesting site about canals and locks. I found two Swedish canals in the text, one that I have traveled myself!Now I understand why you like ExpoRail!! You found both RDCs and dome car(s)!! Interesting pictures! That museum obviously has a lot of rolling stock. Do you have an idea of in what condition most of the equipment outside was in? The Observation Dome Car doesn’t look too bad. It needs some work but...Lars – Very nice and interesting pictures from NZ! It looks like they have narrow gauge tracks. Hopefully Allan can confirm or correct me.Pete – Thanks for the info on those British steamers! I had commuter service in mind when I saw the picture of Waddon. Light locomotive for a light commuter train. Easy to go around at the end station and then travel in the opposite direction.I learned something new again! Ian Fleming wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and the James Bond books! Doug – Nice to see you again, Sir! I am taking my vitamins every day, preparing myself for some busy days in Chicago next spring! Museum in Wisconsin? Hmm, I wonder if that could be one of two I have in mind?James – Okay, I see what you mean! As far as I can tell your description was correct! Family members and books are always to good help regardless of what it is about. The simulator I have been running has hydraulic movement and that together with sound and a good screen makes it very real! The first time I was running it and had done that for about 5 minutes, I met another train (on the screen) and before I knew it I was waving to the engineer on that train. I felt kind of stupid when I realized what I was doing. Somewhere I have a picture of the simulator. I’ll try to find it and show it here.
Boone, IA.
Hello Tom and crew
I'll have something from the menu (perhaps a pancake breakfast) and one of two of those Mentor pastries, and a fruit juice please.
By the way - the subject of Beans on Toast was raised recently - Pete - what, may I ask, do you do about Marmite? I had a devil of a job finding any in Quebec to offer my friends - they had a shock when they tasted some I can tell you!!!
As you may have heard we've had some pretty crazy downpours here - with both major rail and road links closed earlier in the week - at one point there was a risk of a Dam near Sheffield bursting so that was pretty extreme - apparently that is under control now.
First of all a few catch ups.
Tom - I enjoyed that repeat of an Ocean Journey from 2005 - sad to think I missed the ability to take that run in Budd equipment by about 1 year. A shame. Interesting info on the Empire Builder and the Coast Starlight - runs I'd like to take. In fact I was sorting out my paperwork from my recent Toronto trip and found the spring Amtrak system timetable - which I was enjoying reading over breakfast - in fact I was looking at the run you did at the recent re-union - does Pete come in from the east from Jefferson City? It is good to study the map and think of the journey's one could do. I see the Sunset Limited is still not running east of New Orleans - is that ever going to be re-instated? What's the excuse for the non re-instatement - surely the lines are back in place by now?
I think you are right about the museums in the UK - you don't seem to have to go too far to find a bunch of guys trying to fix up some rusty metal object that has seen better days (whilst some other metal gets more rusty as fast as they work) - we must have an addiction to it - plenty of railroad museums, workshops and restoration centres with volunteers working hard - some are big enough to have a critical mass - but others I fear are quite small and may not last for ever.
Lars - thanks for that C-Zephyr link - it matches the one I posted a while back which I will post again - but does not seem to have been updated even though the archive is good.
http://calzephyr.railfan.net/
I've book marked your link for reference as it has a lot of interesting info - esp on the whereabouts of the current cars.
Dave - enjoyed reading your SP info - something I know nothing about but learned much from your posts in response to James' queries
Eric - thanks for follow up info on the Leyland rail bus - you mentioned lack of side doors in buses - interesting point - outside of London they are not common - in fact often non existent - I think this is because of the bizarre tendency for the UK public to jump fare payment - with that in mind they want to route all passengers via the driver where you have to show your ticket or pass or pay your fare. It's crazy because it slows down the journey - very different from the continental tendency to get on any door and validate your own ticket on a stamp machine. The new ‘bendy' articulated London buses on some route have mid body doors but they have gained the nick name of the ‘free buses' because people get on at these points and don't bother to pay. Dodging fares - which are not very expensive - seems to be a British obsession - esp. for certain youths and other n'er do wells!
Yes, I did enjoy driving the switching loco - even if only on a short stretch - there were some complicated points to go over and despite the large glazed area it was obvious that visibility close to the loco was slim - so working in those yards for those staff on foot in the area could have been dangerous.
Pete - thanks for the excavator info - remarkable that I find it hard to find any info on that machine then it turns out an Our Place regular has even been on board - for it must surely be the same one - although I think they had about 5 in total. What was the scale of the operating cab / area you went inside? It was sad to see it in such poor condition at Rutland - I can't really imagine it was very restorable given the state of decay of the ‘preserved' cab - it wasn't really even tarpualined up properly.
Maybe Mike can find some great pics of giant drag line excavators (eg the one in that article you linked to - Big Brutus)? If anyone can Mike can!
That land cruise link was good - this para said it all:
"We were booked a 1hr 40min stop at Rhyl, during which time we saw BR Std 5 4-6-0 no 73040 on the Up Welshman, Britannia 4-6-2 no 70048 on the up Irish Mail, Compound 4-4-0 no 41166 on a Llandudno to Derby, 45688 Polyphemus, and an assortment of Black 5's, 2MT 2-6-2T's, and several ex L & Y 0-6-0's. "
Plenty of action then even in a short stop - how the world has changed - I can only imagine it!
Incidentally - I bet those Crewe men weren't so keen on painting that A4 either - what was wrong with sending it to Doncaster?
You mentioned Hayling Island and the need for light weight locos - this was near where my grandparents lived - here are 2 atmospheric pics
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10457694&wwwflag=3&imagepos=1
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10324665&wwwflag=2&imagepos=2
I think the disused track bed is now a foot path / cycle path and part of the station has been turned into a Theatre - see - with some interesting vintage photos:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/h/hayling_island/index.shtml
Also at Rutland I picked up an interesting book about Trent Station - which was a rather strange junction based in the middle of no where near here.
Scroll down this page below the author's family pics for a picture and some info:
http://www.geoffreykingscott.co.uk/contents.html
A diagram on that page shows what a complicated junction it was and why it was a notable place.
"Trent Station had a number of features which made it almost unique among railway stations. It was built solely as an interchange, on what would now be called a greenfield site, in the south-east corner of Derbyshire. As it did not serve any local population it was named after a river, rather than after a town or village. It opened in 1862, and was described in one Midland Railway publication as "the junction for everywhere". It changed little in its 106 years of existence, and even to its last day, December 31, 1967, was lit by gas lamps, never having had electricity."
In the book the author recalls that at School - he was local - when reciting the Lord's prayer they would switch a key line to ‘Lead us not into Trent Station' - I thought that was amusing!!
Anyhow - my travel continued with a drive through the countryside to investigate a windmill at a place called Wymondham - very much a quintessential English village - old pub, old church etc - anyway - the windmill was just outside the village on rising ground - and to get there we had to cross what was obviously the long closed railway line.
If you look at this picture you can see it from the air
http://www.windmillworld.com/millid/1520.htm
- with the old railway line being the line of trees running east west across the photo - you can zoom in and see the old station (now a house) on the eastern side of the road. It still had its original platforms. On the western side of the road are some old railway workers cottages north of the line, and the roof of the large goods shed is clearly visible - this building was in very good condition - with the roof intact and its doors all in order - looked unaltered from the days of the railway - it was not clear who owned it now - and it did not look like it was used very much, if at all, as the grass around it was not trodden down by foot or vehicle.
The only sad bit was a beautiful little weigh bridge office at the entrance to what would have been the goods year from the road - lovely brick and slate construction but sadly the roof had been allowed to collapse and tree was growing up through it. The original construction was clearly very carefully built - no doubt at some expense.
The size of the goods shed must reflect the importance of the agricultural business in the area - as it is not an industrial location. You can see from the air the quite large level area that would have been the goods yard.
This station would have been one of the lines on the Midland and Great Northern Joint Railway. This was line built to provide access from the industrial Midlands to the east of England (East Anglia - and for most of its years its main business would have been tourist traffic to the resorts on the east coast - and agricultural traffic to the Midlands from East Anglia - which is a big farming area).
The line was jointly owned - and always a backwater route I am sure as it duplicated other lines from end to end (although not on the intermediate points). This led to early risk of closure and the line was closed as long ago as 1959 so it was interesting to find these relics so unaltered. Running through predominantly rural landscape a journey on the line must have been most enjoyable back in the day (who has got the time machine key?).
Part of the line has been preserved (although not at this location I describe) and you can take a delightful steam hauled trip along 5 miles of it.
These links have interesting information. Sadly I can't find any pictures of Wymondham station on the web back in its heyday.
http://www.mandgn.co.uk/
http://www.mgncircle.org.uk/
http://www.mandgn.co.uk/museum_history.htm
Anyway - on the way home from this expedition we were passed over head by the Red Arrows - the Royal Air Force display team - doing some practice formation flying at low altitude -presumably from their air base not so far away. All in all a good expedition!
Regards
DL
And it's FRIDAY at the Saloon by the Siding! Time for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast - coffee ‘n pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery! <ummmm>
A contrast in weeks, but better than most at this oasis for those who enjoy the subject of Classic Trains while enjoying the surroundings of this most comfortable of cyber bars!
Cards got spared another loss to the Mets, thanx to the RAIN OUT in New YAWK! <geesh>
REMINDER: We'll be flying the Canadian Maple Leaf in front of "Our" Place on Sunday ‘n Monday in commemoration of Canada Day - July 1st. While the bar is CLOSED on Sundays, we want our cousins from the north to know we're thinking ‘bout ‘em! After all, "Our" Place is located in Can-Am County! <grin>
NOTICE: The bar will be OPEN on Wednesday, July 4th - Independence Day in the U.S. The tent will be set up out back for the late afternoon festivities and fireworks display in the evening. Boris ‘n Leon will be dressed in their "Uncle Sam" outfits and handling security for the crowd. <uh oh>
Noticed marthastrainyard - Pers was logged in yesterday . . . perhaps we'll be seeing him back at the bar pretty soon!
Lars at 12:02 PM ‘n 1:36 PM Thursday - June 28th: Twice visited from our Manager! Not to worry about being "rushed" - happens . . .
A fine spate of Pix of the New Zealand trains!
Lars, "We takes what we gets!" here at the Tavern by the Tracks - win some, lose some and others are rained out . . . Being YOU is much more appreciated than being disingenuous. Must say, you DO have a way of stirring the pot . . . <grin>
Didn't catch any "gloating" in your Post about the Mets beating my Cards <again> last nite! <groan> <grin>
So, WHY would you want the phone number of a gal in Sweden who by now must be at least 20 years older and . . . hmmmmm, then again, we're ALL 20 years older, eh
Appreciate the round, visits ‘n fotos!
Pete at 4:44 PM Thursday - June 28th: Did we really spend over 2 hours on the fone!?!?! Time flies when you're having fun, eh Glad I could help return you to your normal good nature ‘n humor!
Putting together those fotos of our trip to ExpoRail makes me want to plan for another "go" at that place!! Interested Now if we could only figure out an economical way of getting from here to there . . . . <groan>
I'm tempted to make that trip to KCity myself . . . but doubt I will. Juneau would surely have something to "say" about ANOTHER day away so close to those I had last month. Husky dogs NEVER forget - must be the "elephant" in ‘em . . .
Glad you enjoyed those links - I too found them very interesting. That Victoria Jubilee Bridge across the St. Lawrence Seaway is much more enjoyable to cross while up in the dome. There's just no comparing our Renaissance car ‘n Budd car experiences, eh The latter "wins" hands down, everytime . . . Also, that concept in the canal building link is simply amazing. Goes to show that all good ideas aren't restricted to just "modern times." I think people tend to overlook - and forget - the innovations of the past. Let's see, there were the Pyramids, then . . . . <grin>
Thanx for the visit, round ‘n interesting Post!
Doug at 8:22 PM Thursday - June 28th: I don't believe it! The Barn Weevil has not only made an appearance, BUT has been "peeking in" all along! So for those of you out there who have been DOUBTERS - like our Manager Lars!!! - keep the faith, our Illinois Connection isn't about to "shuck" the bar in favor of other interests. <nah nah nah>
Only thing I MUST mention is that RUTH isn't tending bar at night!! It's Leon - L-E-O-N, and it's not only the anatomy that's different! <geesh>
Catch ya when the wind shifts, Mate!
James at 11:01 PM Thursday - June 28th: All I can say is with reference to your link to the bridge at Stockwood Fill. I'd NEVER heard of it and found the article most fascinating. Sadly, this appears to have been a huge undertaking almost boarding on folly in that had thorough geologic surveys been done, perhaps the NP would've discovered how futile the plan was. Of course that's all <hindsight> from me
Noticed marthastrainyard - Per was logged in yesterday . . . perhaps we'll be seeing him back at the bar pretty soon!
James at 11:01 PM Thursday - June 28th: All I can say is with reference to your link to the bridge at Stockwood Fill. I'd NEVER heard of it and found the article most fascinating. Sadly, this appears to have been a huge undertaking almost boarding on folly in that had thorough geologic surveys been done, perhaps the NP would&#
Now arriving on Track #1 -
Railways of Down Under - Number One
New Zealand
ONTRACK
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements.
ONTRACK (Rere Totika in Maori), since 2004 the trading name of the New Zealand Railways Corporation (NZRC), is a State-Owned Enterprise that owns, manages and maintains New Zealand's rail infrastructure. Until 1990 NZRC operated New Zealand rail, bus and ferry services. Like the New Zealand Railways Department that preceded it, it had a responsible Minister, the Minister of Railways. The ministerial office was dissolved in 1993.
Areas of operation
ONTRACK has three main areas of operation:
The ONTRACK network consists of:
History
1981 - 1990: National rail operator
NZRC was created as a statutory corporation by the New Zealand Railways Corporation Act 1981 from the New Zealand Railways Department. Along with rail operations, NZRC inherited New Zealand Railways Road Services (bus and parcels services) and SeaRail (inter-island ferries).
During the 1980s it faced many tough challenges, such as the deregulation of the land transport industry in 1982 resulting from the repeal of the Transport Licensing Act 1931 and the resulting growth of competition from road freight operators. In 1984 international consultants Booz Allen Hamilton reported to the National government on how a viable rail network could be created. The report recommended, amongst other things:
This prompted the Opposition Labour Party to launch a ‘Save Rail' campaign. Despite this, rationalisation of NZRC began with the election of the Fourth Labour government in mid 1984. Staff cuts were drastic, infrastructure was reduced and older classes of locomotives scrapped, and workshops closed. In 1985 NZRC began a major restructuring programme, transforming the old functionally-based branch structure into three core business groups:
1990 - 1991: Break up and asset sales
New Zealand Rail Limited (NZRL) was established as a Crown Transferee Company under the provisions of the New Zealand Railways Corporation Restructuring Act 1990, and took over NZRC's rail transport and shipping activities including the rail tracks on 28 October 1990, leasing the rail land corridor from NZRC for $1 per year. Branding initially remained unchanged, except that suburban passenger services were rebranded CityRail.
NZRL was sold for $400 million to a consortium of Wisconsin Central Railway (40%), Berkshire Partners (20%) and Fay, Richwhite & Company (40%) in 1993. The company was renamed Tranz Rail in 1995, with urban passenger services rebranded Tranz Metro, long-distance passenger Tranz Scenic, and freight Tranz Link. Tranz Rail was purchased by Toll Holdings in 2004 and renamed Toll NZ.
Non-core assets remained with NZRC prior to their disposal. Many of these assets were written down by the Government, for some $830 million. Speedlink Parcels was sold to New Zealand Post, and
Ruth my deAH, ‘tis the Larsman again with a hearty thirst! My, my you are a lovely sight on this dreary morning, but we're in here and not out there! A mugga Joe with a jolt, a #3 from the menu board and of course treats for the crittAHs! Boris, don't look so forlorn, the small jar of pickled pig's feet is for YOU after you've fed the gang! A round on me and the change is yours, my deAH! <grin>
Nice work with the New Zealand spread, Cap'n Tom. Pretty much what I tried to put together yesterday, but not as elaborate as what you did. Always yield to the "master," huh
Great spate of Expo Rail shots and as evAH, surely is keeping the interested peaked ‘round the joint. Thanks for all the effort and willingness to let us "in" on the expeience!
I think you've covered the "bases" quite well with your morning post, so I won't parrot the accolades for one ‘n all. In spite of the dwindling numbers, we seem to be holding our own lately, huh Must've been my return to the bar that did it!
DL made a great post this morning - appears the "gremlins" kept the Cap'n from seeing it. Just makes me wondAH about this "improved" formatting, etc. Anyway, nice to see ya aboard and perhaps you can help us out on the 4th of July.
Figured that if the "internationals" amongst us could make a post that day, it would give we Yanks a bit of time to enjoy the holiday. Whadyathink???
Your post is replete with so many Urls to this ‘n that, THAT I find myself immersed in them. When I look back to the times when we made port calls in England, I'm chagrined that I didn't take advantage of what WAS. But those were far different times and admittedly, I was a different person in terms of likes ‘ dislikes. Appreciate the effort you always put forth with in your visits. [tup ]
I note that perhaps my ‘stirring the pot' shook loose one Mr. Barndad! So be it - always good to see the man about the decks and of course he's missed - very much so.
We ALL have lives, mate and I'm not removed from it. In not that too many days, I'll be off again to the Keys . . . but you can bet I'll do everything possible to "connect" with this gin mill - my place in the ether for RnR!
Hey Cap'n - Ya know, I'm NOT sure where that dialogue begun with West Coast S (Dave) on the "kids" stuff. I think my response was moreso in the polite vein, in that don't recall evAH bringing it up.
As of right now, a should be able to drop by on Saturday . . . any further down the line than that, can't wager a guess. <ugh>
Was figuring out who the recent customers have been and came up with this:
Barndad Doug - CMSTPP James - coalminer3 CM3 Shane - EricX2000 Eric - - Fergmiester Fergie - Gunneral Allan -marthastrainyard Per - nickinwestwales Nick- pwolfe Pete - wanswheel Mike - West Coast S Dave - ‘n yours truly. Now that's NOT BAD for a thread that at times has appeared to be foundering . . . <that's NOT floundering - as in fish - which most land lubbers probably think is correct!>
Mets?? Why even Mother Nature is on their side! Let's go METS!
Why yes, Ruth - it IS time to catch up on the <ahem> admin work . . . .
A visit from DL in the UK - and - our Manager, Lars! Sorry I didn't pick up on your Post from early morning, DL - will make comment in Saturday's summary.
A nice compilation from our Manager with regard to "who's been here" lately!
Canadian National Railway (CNR #9191) Baggage car - Built by National Steel Car (1952)
Scenes
Toronto Suburban Railway (TSR #8) passing by - Built by Patterson & Corbin (c. 1895) <different view on Page 74>
Canadian National (CN #30) GE 70 ton switcher - Built by GE (1950)
Ontario Northland Railway (ONR #1400) RS10 - Built by Montreal Loco Works (1955)
Canadian Pacific (CP #7077) S-2 - Built by Montreal Loco Works (1948) <different view Posted on Page 73>
Here's something some may wish to cut 'n keep!
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Amtrak trip planning help . . .
Here's a URL
http://www.amtrakdelays.com/index.php
that should help those planning trips with Amtrak. This "unofficial" site will give you up to three week's of on-time-performance (or lack thereof!).
You will need the three letter station code, found at:
http://www.amtrak.com/html/stations_A.html
And number of the train you are checking up on - which may be found at: http://pages.prodigy.net/kevinkorell/btn/numt2100.htm
Good luck!
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Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative this AM):
DL at 6:06 AM today- June 29th: Don't know how it happened, but I missed your Post - not once, but TWICE!
Anyway, great seeing ya and that was one super-fine Post you provided for the gang!
Wolfman Pete lives to the west of where I am and the Rendezvous was held. He's pretty much in central Missouri, whereas I am on the eastern edge . . .
Anything I could offer regarding Amtrak's Sunset Limited would only be anecdotal - but here's a link of current schedule info that pretty much leaving things "up in the air" . . .
http://www.cwrr.com/Amtrak/w_sunset.html
Amtrak is suffering from equipment ‘n budget problems, so who knows!?!? Here's something from Wikipedia.com:
The Sunset Limited is a passenger train that for most of its history has run between New Orleans and Los Angeles, California, and that from early 1993 through late August of 2005 also ran east of New Orleans to Florida, making it during that time the only true transcontinental passenger train in American history (ignoring, of course, the comparatively small gaps between its endpoint stations and the respective seacoasts). From late August of 2005 to the present, the train has remained officially a Florida-to-Los Angeles train, being considered temporarily truncated due to the lingering effects of Hurricane Katrina. At first (until late October 2005) it was truncated to a San Antonio-to-Los Angeles service; since then (from late October 2005 on) it has been truncated to a New Orleans-to-Los Angeles service. As time has passed, particularly since the January 2006 completion of the rebuilding of damaged tracks east of New Orleans by their owner CSX Transportation Inc., the obstacles to restoration of the Sunset Limited's full route have been more managerial and political than physical.
Perhaps there's a guy or two who may be able to shed some additional light onto this . . .
. . . And lead us NOT into Trent Station! That's cute . . .
Thanx for brightening up the day for us! [tup ]
Lars at 11:55 AM today- June 29th: Another daily visit from our Manager!
Nicely put together list of who's been at the bar lately. Kinda sez it all, eh I'm hoping that this summer we'll do better than last in terms of keeping things hummin' at the bar. Don't need to be inundated, just a "regular" flow will help immensely. Thanx!
Great idea for the "internationals" amongst us to give a hand on the 4th of July! Some day time Posts would really take the "burden" off of the "few" watching this place.
How come I'm not seeing any "fruits of your labors" regarding the <ahem> admin work??!!
Thanx for the round ‘n chat!
See ya in the mornin' . . . Leon, set 'em up - Boris, ring the bell!
HI Tom and all.
A pint of Holden's Mild and a round please RUTH.
Great to see you in the bar DOUG. Yes Tom as managed to get some good photos at the museum, it was hard to get decent photos in the shed #5.
I will get in training for the rendezvous. It sounds that we shall be so busy we will not have time for a Coors Light.
JAMES Thanks for the very interesting link to the Stockwood Fill and way the civil engineers battled the unsound ground conditions.
You are quite right shunting wagons in the old days was a very dangerous job. In the factory I worked out I worked in a test building and jobs were brought in by the works diesel shunter (switcher) which had a three link coupling, I have had got coupling and uncoupling the wagons, uncoupling is not too bad as you can use the buffer casing as a lever for the pole, but coupling up was hard as the coupling was quite heavy. The drivers were good though and would stop the switcher with the buffers just touching. The regular shunter would make it look so easy.
ERIC I forgot to mention about the "Terriers" locomotives, of which Waddon is one, is that the rather unique sound of the exhaust of the engines, a coughing sort of sound. Waddon looks in immaculate condition having just been repainted; I wonder how much work it would take to get her running again. I would have though it would be a great loco to work in the museum site, with the lightweight and small wheelbase.
It will be good to see a photo of the simulator.
Thanks for the photo of C&NW # 1003;what are the cars it was hauling, do you know.
Enjoy your 5 day break
DL Ah yes Marmite sandwiches, defiantly an acquired taste. I used to have them one day a week as a packed lunch at work, with crisps (chips) between the bread as well. I could not get the bride to taste it though.
I have talked to Alan and he told me some areas had been hit very hard with the flooding in England. A main problem he said was that once it started raining over an area there was not any wind to move the rain away
I guess fare dodging is still a big problem on the trains as well. The amount of revenue the railways must have lost through removing the ticket barriers at stations must be horrendous.
It has been a long time since I was in that excavator, but if memories served we three of us was able just behind the operator and the engine room was quite large and not too noisy. I wonder if the electrical equipment is still aboard the one at the Rutland Museum. I Hope the tarp does t keep the rain out if it is in there.
Glad you liked the North Wales link. We spent many a summer vacation at Rhyl. It was a very busy station in steam days especially on Summer Saturdays, when most people traveled to the seaside by train. Rhyl station site was much larger then. With the south side of the station being platforms and sidings for storing the coaching stock. A guide to how extensive the railway was there can be gained by the size of the two very large signal boxes at both ends of the station, I don't know if they both are still there, but they were until fairly recently.
I spent many a happy hour there watching the trains mainly from a small set of steps on a road bridge at the east of the station, although the station staff were very friendly and would let you on to the station, loco crews as well would, now and then, let you on to the footplate for a quick visit while the passengers were loaded. The locos were mainly ex LMS and BR Standard types with an occasional ex LNER B1 loco. I can recall an old ex Lancashire & Yorkshire 0-6-0 loco of 1889 vintage that used to be on station pilot duties.
I see in the Steam magazine that the Rhyl Miniature Railway which runs round the boating lake, and is visible from the main line to the west of Rhyl station has opened a new station and museum.
I can only guess that Doncaster paint shop was busy and I am sure Crewe works worked on steam locos longer than Doncaster.
Many thanks for the link to the photos of the Hayling Island Branch. I see one is an atmospheric photo by Colin Gifford. It is sad to see the station devoid of track but they have done a good job with the goods shed turning it into a theatre. Have you been to the museum at Liphook, it is many years since I last visited there.
Another great link to Geoffery Kingscott. What a great cover on the ‘Lost Railways of Leicestershire and Rutland book. I did use Trent Station once. I was going to Derby Works open day in 1965 and we traveled by the now closed Ru
Another beer please LEON.
TOM I have been looking at the post you posted just before mine. We though of getting the Sunset Limited from San Antonio to LA on our California trip but decided against it.
Those links to Amtrak are indeed worth keeping. I have been looking at the trains between Kansas City and Kirkwood/St Louis for the last week and they make very sad reading An example, eastbound train 316 AVERAGED 132 minutes late and train 314 an average 135 mintues late in to Kirkwood.
Even the westbound train we caught, as averaged over an hour late with one being 200 minutes late. As we have said before though, how much of this is down to UP would be interesting to know.It must be hard for the train crew having to placate passengers who are over 3 hours late. It must be very sad for those who can remember the Classic years of train travel
I think I will have to have another Batham's please LEON
Pete.
Gentlemen all,just a quick line to `touch base` as they say -Leon-huge mugs of finest Devonian scrumpy for the crew,returned safely -weather foul beyond belief,good haul of pix of immaculate G.W.R `heritage` steam plus a sampling of contempory working on the main line with a few grace notes of 15" garden rail--have got them loaded onto p/bucket and will transfer to the company as soon as I have my breath back.
Have had a quick scan through the last weeks submissions and can attest to a uniformly impressive quality of material.........Will get down to individual cases after a good nights sleep or two ( got a show to do tomorrow so not much chance there )
Somewhat of a Luddite when it comes to modern technology but the quality of the digital pix here lately could convince the most sceptical---fine work one and all !!!!!!!
Speak soon my dears,Nick
Leon, I know it is early morning and almost time for breakfast, but I just want a cup of coffee before I'll hit the sack!
DL – Thanks for the explanation about the missing side doors on buses! You are right, it certainly slows down the journey, forcing passengers in the rear of the bus to walk all the way up front to get off. Switching cars (with a loco) is a job where you have to be alert all the time, both the guys on the ground and also the engineer. Tom – Nice to see that the bar will be open on Wednesday with the tent set up! I think I’ll spend the day there instead of here, we have been promised a hot 4th of July, at Least 116° F. I never noticed it was that much snow on Mt. Mentor! Even in the summertime. Well, it was spring when I saw it and I expected more of it to melt away! That VIA Rail Park car is at least covered and protected from getting worse. That is important! I certainly would like to visit that museum one day (sorry, 2-3 days). After seeing your pictures posted today, sorry, yesterday, I am even more convinced that it could be worth a visit! Nice pictures! Your camera focused well that day!Very interesting info on NZ and its railways! They have a system very similar to Sweden. The state owns almost all main-line infrastrucutre and provides access to the rail network to rail operators for a fee. I checked CIA’s site for info on the NZ railways and they claim that the route length is 4,128 km (2,565 miles), a little bit more than the Wikipedia info. The track is 1.067 m gauge (3 ft 6”). The CSX rail line east of New Orleans is repaired but Amtrak has not restored the train service between New Orleans and Miami for unknown reason(s). Amtrak is actually breaking the law by not running Sunset Limited all the way to Florida. NARP and Southern Rapid Rail Transit Commission are trying to change Amtrak’s decision not to restore the trains service. Instead Amtrak is saying they are studying alternative routes. Lars – Thanks for the round! I hope you (and Ruth) managed to catch up on the admin work. Where is she?Pete – Waddon may need some major work to be brought back to operational condition. Like new tubes in the boiler. But maybe it is operational? Do you know for sure it isn’t? I will certainly enjoy my 5 days off!!! Thank you!!If your bride didn’t want to taste your Marmite sandwich it must be something bad! I am not sure if I want to know what it is? Something smelly? Thanks for the pictures! No spitting in the streetcar? The steamer seems to be a British wood burner. Or am I wrong?Dave – Get some rest and have a nice weekend! Hope to see you (and pictures) again soon!!
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
It's Saturday and the final day of the month of June - we're halfway to 2008!
So, what'll it be Try a <light> or <traditional> breakfast, or if you're interested is something "lighter" our pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery are fresh ‘n ready for eatin'!! Wash it all down with our famous Can-Am blend of coffee!
As previously mentioned, Sunday is the Oh-Fish-Ul Canada Day holiday for our friends north of the 49th and the ex-pats residing elsewhere. "Our" Place will fly the Maple Leaf on Sunday and Monday <legal observance> in honor of the event!
We WILL be OPEN on Wednesday, July 4th Independence Day ‘n our traditional celebration tent will be "up" for entertainment, food ‘n drink in late afternoon. Fireworks begin at "dark" - watch for Boris ‘n Leon in their "Uncle Sam" suits!
Pete at 5:24 PM ‘n 7:28 PM Friday - June 29th: Two visits from our Bar Chandler and the good news is that the inclusive, informative ‘n interesting chat continues - the bad news is that the Wolfman will be away <again> on Saturday! <geesh> That's THREE in a row, Mate - you're back to the "small dipper." <double geesh>
Perhaps one day we'll be able to repeat some of that Canada trip of ours - and maybe even have our Resident Desert Swede - Eric - accompany us. ExpoRail IS quite the place!
Pix look fine - and don't worry about the "captions" as they've been (or will be) in mine.
Figured you'd use those links regarding the Amtrak on-time-performance <or lack thereof> . . . makes one think thrice about "booking" a trip. Truly a shame . . .
Geography 101 for the Wolfman: You will be in SouthWEST Missouri over the 4th of July!! <triple geesh>
Rounds appreciated!
Nick at 8:38 PM Friday - June 29th: As promised, our Wales Connection returned at week's end. Glad you made it back and hope the holiday was everything ‘n more to all involved!
As you have indicated, there's been quite a lot of interesting "stuff" here at the bar and it surely will require one to put aside an hour or so just to absorb the most meaningful of it all. The Pix are worth the price of admission! <grin>
Am in hopes that YOU will be able to provide a Post for us on the 4th of July - as one of our "internationalists" at the bar, it surely would be appreciated by the Yanks amongst us!
Methinks 35mm is still far ‘n away "more better" than digital. Albeit there are those who have perfected the use of the latter <Doug ‘n Eric> whereas I muddle along with my "hit ‘n miss" technique . . . Take a bunch, every time - all the time - and some are bound to turn out acceptable! <grin> Kinda like meeting women, ask around enough, and surely ONE will accept! <double grin>
Perhaps you can drop a few notes through the mail slots on Sunday if today is "out" for ya . . .
Eric at 3:14 AM today - June 30th: Now THAT's a late Post <or EARLY> from our Nocturnal Resident Desert Swede.
Covered the bases, as always, and enjoyed the chat, fer sure, fer sure.
The average temps atop Mt. Mentor are ALWAYS below freezing - that snow can't do anything but accumulate. Ahhhh, love the white stuff! <grin>
ONE HUNDRED SIXTEEEN degrees on the 4th?!?!?! Are you SERIOUS?!?!?! <Good Gawd Gertie!> Hope your air conditioner is in good shape - there's NO WAY you'd catch me in climate like that . . . <ugh>
As we've learned over the use of it, Wikipedia is to be scrutinized before one "takes to the bank" any of the "facts" contained therein . . . It is a great source for the general "stuff" however . . . Pix too!
Pete ‘n I didn't have time to scout out the area where ExpoRail is located, so I'm without knowledge of places to stay and things to do. However, Montreal is only a 30 minute drive and there's PLENTY to take in there. Three days at ExpoRail and they might as well put us on the pay roll, eh <grin>
Yeah, no spitting on the streetcar - what's the world coming to, eh
Nice foto - where ‘n when??
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at
Canadian Railways of the Past Number Two: Northern Alberta Railways (NAR)
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Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. Northern Alberta Railways Locale: Alberta, British Columbia Reporting marks: NAR Dates of operation: 1929 - 1981 Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge) Headquarters: Edmonton, Alberta The Northern Alberta Railways (AAR reporting mark: NAR) was a Canadian railway which served northern Alberta and northeastern British Columbia. Jointly owned by both Canadian National Railway and Canadian Pacific Railway, NAR existed as a separate company from 1929 until 1981. Predecessor railways Railway construction in northern Alberta during the early 20th century was dominated by the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway and the Canadian Northern Railway, both of which were building westward from Edmonton, AB to the Yellowhead Pass of the Rocky Mountains. Following the Dominion Land Survey grants to settlers, the Peace River region of northwestern Alberta was one of the few places left on the prairies with available agricultural land, however there was no railway connection. Several lines were chartered to serve both the Peace River and Waterways regions of the province, beginning with the Athabaska Railway in 1907. It was to build northeast from Edmonton to Dunvegan, AB, then to Fort George, BC. ED&BC The company was rechartered in 1911 under the ownership of J.D. McArthur as the Edmonton, Dunvegan and British Columbia Railway (ED&BC). Construction of the ED&BC started in 1912 heading toward Westlock, AB, reaching High Prairie in 1914, and Spirit River in 1915. Deciding not to proceed to Dunvegan, a branch was built south from Rycroft, AB to Grande Prairie, AB in 1916 (400 miles northwest from Edmonton). In 1924 the line was extended to Wembley, AB and it reached Hythe, AB in 1928. In 1930 the line was extended westward across the provincial boundary to its western terminus at Dawson Creek, BC. A&GW In 1909 a charter was granted to the Alberta and Great Waterways Railway (A&GW) to build from Edmonton to Waterways, AB on the Athabasca River. Construction faltered and the line was rechartered in 1913 under the ownership of J.D. McArthur. Construction of the AG&W began in 1914 from Carbondale, AB and reached Lac La Biche, AB in 1916. It reached Draper, AB in 1922 and its terminus at Waterways, AB in 1925. CCR In 1913 a charter was granted to the Central Canada Railway (CCR) under the ownership of J.D. McArthur to build from Winagami Junction, AB on the ED&BC to Peace River Crossing, AB in order to access barge traffic on the Peace River. Construction of the CCR began in 1914 and was completed in 1916. The CCR was subsequently extended to Berwyn, AB in 1921, then to Whitelaw, AB in 1924, Fairview, AB in 1928 and Hines Creek, AB in 1930. PVR In 1926, the provincial government passed a statute authorizing the government to construct the Pembina Valley Railway from Busby, AB, where it connected to the ED&BC line, to Barrhead, AB. Provincial ownership In 1920, the lines owned by J.D. McArthur entered financial difficulties following the First World War. Coinciding with the problems faced by the McArthur lines (ED&BC, A&GW, and CCR), both the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway (GTPR) and Canadian Northern Railway (CNoR) had fallen victim to similar circumstances brought about by the financial strain of the conflict and falling traffic levels. The Dominion government had nationalized the GTPR and CNoR, along with other previously federally owned lines into the Canadian National Railways. Following the federal example, and in an attempt to preserve rail service to northern and northwestern Alberta, the provincial government leased the ED&BC and CCR in 1920 for five years. In 1921 the government entered into a five year agreement with the Canadian Pacific Railway (CPR) to operate the ED&BC and CCR. That same year, the provincial government purchased the A&GW outright and chose to operate it separately. CPR immediately raised freight rates on the ED&BC and CCR lines, charging "mountain prices", claiming that the cost of operating on grades into the Peace and Smoky River valleys of the northwestern prairie was as much as it cost to operate in the Rocky Mountains. Consequently Peace River farmers paid the highest freight charges on the Canadian prairies to reach the lakehead at Port Arthur and Fort William. The provincial government purchased the ED&BC and CCR from McArthur in 1925, following the expiration of the five year lease. dissatisfied with the CPR's operation of the ED&BC and CCR, the provincial government allowed the operating contract for the these railways to expire in 1926, with operations subsequently taken over by the new provincial Department of Railways and Telecommunications which was also tasked to operate the AG&W and the newly-built PVR. In 1928, the provincial government began to solicit proposals from both the CPR and the Canadian National Railways (CNR) for purchasing the provincial railways. In 1924, CNR president Sir Henry Thornton visited the ED&BC line and in 1928, CPR president Edward Beattie did the same. Northern Alberta Railways In 1929 the provincial government grouped the ED&BC, CCR, AG&W, and PVR under the collective name Northern Alberta Railways (NAR), which received a federal charter on June 14. The NAR was subsequently sold to both the CNR and CPR in equal portions with both companies agreeing to maintain the NAR as a joint subsidiary. At that time, the NAR was the third-largest railway in Canada. In 1937 the NAR began to show a profit for the first time. In summer 1942, following the entry of the United States into the Second World War, the Alaska Highway civil defence project resulted in tremendous growth for the NAR, as the system was the only railway to service Alaska Highway mi
Cindy my lady, it's a treat to see you behind the bar on this Saturday! I'm sure it makes Cap'n Tom smile brightly as well! A mugga Joe with a jolt for me along with some pastries from the case should do it. Ah yes, treats for my friends - Boris, feed the crittAHs their "due" and you'll get your small jar of pickled pig's feet! A round on me and the change is YOURS!
Weather ‘round these parts is partly cloudy, high 70's "F" and appears that the rains have left us. We're supposed to have a nice conditions until Wednesday when the chance of thunderboomers crops up. Figured something would screw up the traditional <bang> <boom> <ahhhhh> of the 4th of July!
Mets are doin' just fine, thank you very much! LET'S KEEP GOING, METS!
Gasoline prices were at $3.49 at our "favorite" Gulf station. Times like these make me very, very happy to know that we really aren't in need of our car that much . . . When I tell my "kids" about the "gas wars" of old in New Jersey, they think I'm nuts . . . 30 cents (and lower) for a gallon of gas!
Hey Cap'n! That is a great travel aide for anyone thinking about Amtrak. Nicely done and I copied it for my "files." Man oh man those OTP's are terrible, especially for the long distance runs. I've been spending quite a bit of time checking this 'n that . . . again, many thanks! 5- Salute to our Cap'n for ALWAYS coming up with interesting aspects to what we like to talk about!
In reply to a request for pix from me, sorry guys, I don't "do" ‘em . . . I'm really not a picture taking kindaguy and those I took are stored away in boxes - probably faded at that. All of our California Zephyr trips were "captured" on black ‘n white back when my father took us and only the Good Lord knows where those wound up. The Mrs. and I hardly took any at all during our trips, as she was "in charge" of that department and most times forgot! <grin> So that's just the way it is and has been. Our pictures are in memory - as in grey matter!
I see the Man from Wales has returned to the bar. Now that's more like it - take a few days leave and come back. Far better ‘n being a "regular" then disappearing for months on end. <geesh> as the Cap'n would say!
Let's see, if we can get at least one post from Nick, DL, Allan ‘n Fergie on the 4th of July, we'll be in great shape. Are youse guyz "up" for it??? Surely would be nice!
We're going to have our "traditional" Scandinavian" 4th of July Celebration, which essentially means we'll speak English - enjoy hot dogs ‘n hamburgers and swear off things like:
Bergens fiskesuppe (Bergen fish soup)
Fiskesalat med pepperrotsaus (fish salad w/horseradish sauce
Stekt marinert makrell (grilled marinated mackerel)
Fiskepudding eller fiskefarse (fish pudding or fish balls)
Sorry Eric, I KNOW how much you enjoy FISH! <grin>
Got some "boomers" set to "go" too - ‘round here it's very controlled in that the neighbors all get into the act and the police are fine with it. Every now ‘n then someone oversteps the boundaries and they have to act.
Enjoyed the Encore! of the Northern Alberta Railways (NAR) and think it was very appropriate on the day B4 Canada Day! "Oh, Canada! Our home and . . . ." (only in English - perhaps Norwegian, but hardly could manage French!!)
What is more binding to a nation that it's common language? Wonder what it is about that - THAT escapes our politicians?? <triple geesh> Imagine if all the signage for RR's had to be in "several" official languages?? What a complete riot that would be . . . Surely hope they don't forget we ‘squareheads' when the day comes . . .
Good to see the Bar Chandler made it in but puzzled regarding this Saturday "off" business. Look, it's like THIS: You earn what you earn. So the "little" dipper is hanging right over there by your time card . . . <quadruple geesh>
A trip up to Montreal to check out the Expo Rail RR museum COULD begin right here at Penn Station. Why not? We could take Amtrak "up" - spend the night in Montreal - then a couple of days over at the museum - take the train back and have a blast. I'm for that! Suggest we wait ‘til fall - but I'm not sure about when they shut the place down. Something to think about for anyone interested in such things.
The RDCs look "cool" but surely in need of a sprucing up. Wonder if they run?? Did I tell you that somewhere "back when" I read that Canada sold off some former Via Rail RDC's to CUBA!!?? Yeah, happened I think a few years back. If I recollect, Cuba had ordered RDC's from Budd back in the 50's and they have kept ‘em running.
I've been to Cuba several times with the USN - but not since the embargo as a Merchie
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . July 1st thru 7th: The Cider House Rules (1999) Starring: Tobey Maguire, Charlize Theron, Delroy Lindo, Paul Rudd & Michael Caine - and - Cold Mountain (2003) Starring: Jude Law, Nicole Kidman, Renée Zellweger, Eileen Atkins & Brendan Gleeson. SHORT: The Three Stooges - An Ache In Every Stake (1941).
The Cider House Rules (1999)
PLOT SUMMARY:
Central to the story (set during World War II) is Homer (Tobey Maguire), a young man raised in a Maine orphanage, where the ether-sniffing Dr. Larch (Michael Caine) rules with benevolent grace while performing safe but illegal abortions. To expand his horizons, Homer follows a young couple (Charlize Theron, Paul Rudd) to do fieldwork on an apple farm, where his innocent eyes are opened to the good and evil of the world--and to the realization that not all rules are steadfast in all situations. By the time Homer returns to the orphanage, The Cider House Rules--which features one of Caine's finest performances--is memorable more for its many charming and insightful moments than for any lasting dramatic impact. Is Homer fated to come full circle in his kindhearted journey? It's left to the viewer to decide. --Jeff Shannon
from: amazon.com
Cold Mountain (2003)
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A heroic attempt to capture, in all its tangled bitterness, the backwash of war-the lawless, scrappy life that takes shape behind the lines in an atmosphere of uneasy freedom. Inman (Jude Law), a young Confederate soldier, badly wounded and spiritually depleted, deserts his company and tries to make his way back to his home town in North Carolina and to a young woman, Ada (Nicole Kidman), he knew briefly and fell in love with. Along the way, he has a series of grotesque, terrifying adventures. Ada, meanwhile, aided by an arrogant interloper (Renée Zellweger) with a strong back, learns to run the farm that her late father left to her. The coming together of the two lovers has a satisfying kind of inevitability, like the halves of a drawbridge falling into place. Anthony Minghella adapted Charles Frazier's acclaimed 1997 novel, and directed in a style both high flown (the lovers' letters soar over the tormented landscapes like a blessing) and filthy with the mire and blood of war. The extraordinary cast includes Donald Sutherland, Eileen Atkins, Brendan Gleeson, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Giovanni Ribisi. -David Denby Copyright © 2006 The New Yorker
SHORT: The Three Stooges - An Ache In Every Stake(1941)PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly
The Stooges portray incredibly klutzy ice men who accidentally cause Mr. Lawrence (Vernon Dent) to smash not one but two birthday cakes. When they drive Mrs. Lawrence's cook and maid to quit, the Stooges volunteer to prepare the dinner, not knowing who her husband is!
from: threestooges.net
Enjoy! Tom
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