G'day Gents!
A bit puzzled with the turn of events for our "Theme" - but, it's happened before - better late than never. So, we'll just move along . . .
Good to see James, BK 'n Lars "in" today.
Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):
James at 8:15 AM today: First "in" with the "theme" stuff, BUT jumped the gun. TrolleyMAN was supposed to do that. <uh oh> Gotta read the words, it'll "get you" every time!
I MUST comment on the "Ocean," oldest continually running passenger train in North America. No dispute there. A route traveled many, many times since 1990. And one that Pete and I will experience later this month.
Anyway, that is not "modern" equipment. VIA Rail's Budd cars are the former Canadian Pacific stock from the 1950s and in fact no longer run on the route between Montreal 'n Halifax. Those cars are now in use on the western routes. Something pointed out several times here and on the original Thread. It IS an interesting Pix, though . . .
A nice CP steamer w/passsenger consist that Rob will surely pick up on . . .
Thanx for the visit!
Lars at 8:42 AM today: Best of intentions, eh Save your work for 'nother day. Perhaps tomorrow . . .
Many thanx for stopping by and trying to keep ahead with the paperwork. Don't know what to tell ya, but I think our "Assistant Manager" has scrammed outta here, at least as far as 'work' is concerned. We best try to identify someone else . . . Hmmmmmm. <uh oh>
Figured you'd be heading down to the Keys again. Heck, who wouldn't?? You own it, why not use it??!! Spend that money, no point in passing it along. Email info makes me envious - and that's hard to do when it comes to subjects OTHER than real passenger trains.
Don't worry about this joint while you're away. You've got plenty of stuff to keep ya busy and my guess is your bride will find even MORE!
BK at 11:37 AM today: Double treat - you stopped by AND provided us with a most appropriate Canadian Passenger Train story! [tup ] Must wholeheartedly concur with what you said regarding the times of today and so forth. Things have changed, fer sure, fer sure and not all or always for the better. That must've been some great time you guys had back then . . .
You mentioned some time back that you still keep contact with those two Mounties (both now retired). That's great! I think some of the finest people I've met, aside from shipmates, have been those traveling aboard trains - mainly up in the domes! Some long term friendships have resulted. Far easier to do aboard a train than in a jam-packed-uncomfortable airplane, eh Youbetcha!
Hmmmm, so Lars "borrowed" YOUR sandwich and made it his own, with a "twist" of course. Well, that's one of the reasons you two are "bookends"!!
Regards to Lydia!
JUST IN: Rob at 1:55 PM: Figured it had to be 'puter issues. Glad you made it in and sorry about the exasperation. Happens! We can "do" this whenever you're ready - next week would be fine too. Your call!
Big fines result 'round here if one "digs" and then causes utility outages WITHOUT first having the area surveyed. There's an outfit that does it for FREE, as they are paid by the utility companies, and people still screw it up. <arrrggghhh> Again, sorry for your exasperation. I always KNEW your heart was in the right place (Count Robulla!!) it's just the uncertainty of it all, eh
Here's a few more Pix from my KCity trip with Pete this past Friday . . .
Eastbound St. Louis Mule at KCity Union Station
Engineer of St. Lous Mule
The Harvey House in KCity's Union Station
Mural in KCity's Union Station
KCity traction at KCity Union Station!
Kansas City Southern at KCity Union Station
More to come . . . but not today. <grin>
Enjoy!
Tom
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So here I am finally <grin> so far so good. Ruth could you be so kind as to ring up another round for me thank-you. Oh and some of the usual treats for the our place critters and non-paid staff, thanks.
ONLY IN CANADA YOU SAY PART # 1CLASSIC DIESELS #40
Canada in the late 40's and 50's had some very heavy duties on items bought by companies for use in Canada, so very early on the locomotive builders alls crambled to open plants or at least get a Canadian manufacturing firm on hand to porduce their products for the Canadian market.Alco for years had MLW ( Montreal locomotive works ) producing their steam designs for the various railroads and indusrial lines in Canada, so when diesilization began in earnest up here ALCO/MLW already had a leg up.Likewise the CLC plant in Kingston Ontario ( Canadian locomotive Company ) was already building Baldwin and Lima designed steamers for CN and CP, so Baldwin instantly began using CLC for their diesel designs.Likewise Fairbanks Morse also contracted with CLC to build their locomotive designs. GM not having a candain sudsidiary went one step further and built teh GMD plant in London Ontario which began producing the EMD catalogue for the Candian market.For whatever reason GE did not open a candain plant so they sold few locomotives NOB the few 44 ton and 70 ton switchers that were produced for Canada were geberally shipped accross as kits for final assembly at the railway shops on the CNR. CPR just said no. As a result none of the larger U series of loco's ever found a market up here. Not until free trade lifted most tarrifs did the GE plant make any significant dent in the candain locomotive market which was dominated by MLW and later EMD products. So this post and part two will deal with the oddballs the Candian only units produced by GMD , MLW and CLC enjoy.
The GMD 1. This small light wieght roadswitcher was designed by GMD for use on the light wieght branchlines CNR inherrited from the old CnoR and GTP lines on the prairies where 55 and 70 lbs rail was not an uncomon thing. Only CNR and the NAR ( Northern Alberta railway ) satbbled these little road switchers. As built theyu had A1A-A1A truck set ups with the middle axel being an unpowered idler. later CN rebuilt them to BB-BB configuration both theirs and the NAR ones when CN officially assumed control of the NAR in the 1980's today only 26 of them remain in service mostly as hump and transfer service jobs. Of note these 1950's vintage engines (at least 50) have been sold and shipped to the Cuban state railways to formally diesilize their operations. Fitting I suppose 1950's cars on their roads and 1950's diesels on their railtoad.
The stats:1200hp 567C pime mover L numbered 1000-1082 inclucivly 33" idler wheels with 40" powered wheels all built between 1952-58
GMD1 at mack yard in Toronto Ontario in 1998 on this locomotives 40th birthday,used for yard to yard transfer runs and hump yard switching.
The SW1200RS On the surface this Canada only model from GMD would appear to be a standard SW1200 switcher. It is to a point the major difference bieng that they sit on flexicoil road trucks instead of slow speed switcher trucks. again these were dual mode road and yard service locomotives primarily to handle heavy trains on in town trackage that was not capable of holding up larger roadswitchers. it also freed up GP7's and 9's for passenger and mainline frieght duties.The other "spottinbf feature is the prominent "eyebrow" headlight arrangements. front and back on CN units only on the front of CP units. Only CN and CP ordered these engines though by now some have been sold off into the US for industrial and shortline uses.
CPR SW1200RS at Kineer yard ( former TH&B ) ontop of the Niagara escarpment in Hamilton Ontario.
CN SW1200RS leased to Railink, Hamilton Ontario Shortline locomotive shows off it's rear eyebrow.
The last unit type covered in this sitting is the RS23. This is a ubique to Canada roaadswitcher produced by MLW. It is a 1000hp raodswitcher built from their S13 switcher model. the onkly difference is the use of AAR typr B road trucks and gearing instead of standard blunt ALCO switcher trucks. again these were used for light duty lines and for transfer runs. Only the CPR bought this type 60 units in all. Most were found in eastern Canada on the Dominion Atlantic Lines. all have now been sold off for scrap or top shorlines.
Two former CP RS23;'s now owned by the Ontario Southland railway. these switch the city of Guelph Ontario and are based at Guelph Junction.Note the wonderfull TH&B inpired paint scheme the OSR uses.
Enjoy Rob
Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth, set 'em up and I'll take a double "hit" of JD on the rocks! Treats for the crittAHs of course, including Boris and his small jar of pickled pig's feet. Keep the change!
Some really fine pix from your KCity trip with the Wolfman! Love that Kansas Southern consist!
So, the trolleyMAN has made it to the bar and his delay has :"assed mustAH"!! Dontchajusthateit when that happens. As Cap'n Tom said, ARRRGGGGHHHH! <groan> Until recently, all of our phone lines were up on the poles. Only time we had problems was when the winds or some fool knocked 'em down. Wasn't even 6 months after "burial" that a neighbor "whacked" 'em big time. We were all on the verge of getting out the tar 'n feathers! <grin>
Without further adieu, let me get to some of my Canadian material to initiate this day once 'n for all - then I gotta skedaddle!
What's that?? Of course I have time to meet with you now. Upstairs is fine . . . <blush>
Until the next time!
Lars
Hi Tom , thnaks for the reprieve. Not to worry though i say lets continue on with it. As most of our theme days run into the next two or three days at least anyway. similar fines are levied here for those who dig without thinking and yes we have the free line finder services here as well.Both run by the utilities and contracted out, so there is no excuse. Intreesting to see that the Harvey hoise still operates in the station, nice little blast from the railroading past to be sure. I didn't see any nice looking Harvey girls in that photo though hmmm. All been hired up by Hooters I guess.
Rob
Well good afternoon again gents.Things are finally underway here on this strange theme tuesday.I see the manager snuck in while I was replying to Tom. Oh well at least we are all moving in the same direction again.
Lars-Great book covers sir, I own a couple of those and the rest look just as intriging. The Greg McDonnel book, Passing Trains is a real keeper. I try to get most of his as I haven't seen a bad one yet. two to look out for from him that are not specifically candian content are Heartland, which covers the midsection of the US and it's railroads and U-boats that covers all the GE U series engines both are excellant. Well, I'm having trouble uploading part 2's pictures to the diesel oddities to photobucket at the moment so I will go onto a CN passsenger piece in stead.
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CN PASSENGER SERVICE POST WORLD WAR TWO CLASSIC DIESEL'S # 42
After the second world war ended, CN's passenger equipmnet and locomotives were well worn out by the rigors of extra trains and heavuer traffic patterns.After Company president Donald Gordon started to renew the companies freight rolling stock and started the diesilization of the tired locomotive roster did he turn to the companies passenger business.
In 1953 CN ordered an imense for the time $59 million woth of light wieght passenger cars ( steamlined ) all from Canadian Car and Foundry 218 coaches, and 141 sleeping, dinning and parlour cars from Pullman Standard.This was enough to re-equip all the name trains and most of the minor services in CN's timetable.The idea was to ensure that all candians would benefit from the modern requipment, not just those who purchased first class train tickets.
CN promoted this purchase in a cross country advertising campaign that described it aas "The dawn of a new era." in 1955 the new trancontinental streamliner, The Super Continental was launched using an all light weight consist from this new purchase.this equipment was to be the backbone of CN's passenger service for the next two decades, though not as flashy as rival CP's The Canadian and it's stainless Budd cars which also premiered in 1955.The CN train did not use domes as they would have fouled the electric overhead at Montreals central station but the Super Continental was a big step forward of the formerly staunchy CN passenger service.
The next big change came about in 1963.The new CN campaign promted the new cheaoper fares,better equipment and better service" to entice rail travellers. It began running passenger trains with dedicated management,rather than being run as an after thought by the freight management team of the railway.Employees were trained to deal with the passengers in a way which would make them want to come back again and again.As a test to see if passengers could be lured back to the railways CN set up a new pricing system on the Ocean limited. It was set up to achieve maximum revenue on te days in which the demand was traditionally high and offered cheaper prices the rest of the time to see if patronage could be boosted year round. this was the new REd, White,and Blue fare structure. In July for example, weekends were blue ( high fare ) and weekfays were white (medium fare )in february weekends were white ( medium fare ) with weekdays red ( low fare )The result was a 50% increase in overall passenger numbers.
With the test successful the new approach was rolled out to all passenger service in the country.Another change in the 60's was the purchase of streeamlined equipment from teh Reading and NYC railways for use on the new Montreal to Quebec Champlain and the corridor trains from Montreal to Windsor.Former MILW observation casr were purchased for teh maritime trains and the new business calss Rapido trains were put on between Montreal and Toronto in an effort to grab a bigger share of business commuters.
One exparament that did not pan out was the turbo trains built by United aircraft.these gas turbine powered trainsets ( 5 of them ) were put into service between Montreal and Toronto in 1968, they were on a four hour high speed schedule.The first run was mared by a collision with a truck at a road crossing near Kingston which left the nose of teh lead power unit severly damaged ( aluminum construction ) this demonstrated a vulnerability to damage on these trains. They also proved to be fuel-hungery and uneconomical in the 1970's era fuel prices( imagine what today's costs would be ? )they also were plagued with all sorts of reliability issues and were costly to fix, so the service lives ended in the early 80's.
Despite te success of CN's passenger service initiatives in the 60's tey continued to lose money on the passenger operation.In 1976 CN put a new blue and yellow image on it's rail service ( started with the turbos ) and gave the passenger service a new name VIA. CN hoped that by turing the passenegr service into a separate operating unit would help dramatisize the scope of the monetary loses.VIA quickly evolved into coordinated marketing effort by both CN and CP, and by the fall of 1976 a VIA timetable was produced that contained passenger scheduales for both railways.Two years later in 1978,VIA became a separate crown corperation,folowing the business model of Amtrak.The government was now financially responsible for all passenger rail service and would contract trackage right with CN and CP.
After five decades CN was finally free of their passenger mandate and VIAtill soldiers on today.
Hey Rob! Let's just go with it as planned and I'll save my "stuff" for tomorrow and into the week. With the sparse turnout for this, it's better that way . . .
Scenery in the "Shield" taken from Glacier Park Car on Cross-Canada westbound in 2002
VIA Rail's Canadian westbound at Sioux Lookout - Glacier Park car
P.S. For the "umpteenth time" - PLEASE do NOT "edit" Posts that are hours, days or weeks old. It causes the "most recent Post" to become skewed when logging in. James - you did it again!! Just picked up on it at 6:15 PM today and my editing THIS Post will set it "right." <grrrrrrr>
Next time and you get MULTIPLE <tweetings>!! Boris' shed is in dire need of cleaning, not to mention the "spitoons" in the Rat's Patoot room! <ugh>
Hi Tom and all.
A round please LEON for my late and I'm afraid short visit..
I had read the posts earlier today and got my post in word when a rather heavy Thunder storm rolled in with much lightning so I switched the puter off, now the storm as passed I have got back on but no sign of my post in word. So I will start again and I see there are some more posts to read first..
Pete.
G-day Tom and all present!
Leon- Just a coffee for me, I really need to wake up! Thanks.
I've noticed that my morning posts are looking like hit and runs. Which I don't want them too, but my mornings are really scarce for time and I tried to get in and post some interesting stuff. So I'm going to stick to the afternoons when I know I can come in and enjoy it as long as I want.
To start off the acknowledgements:
Rob- Sorry I took your space for the beginning of the theme even if you couldn't come in due to phone and internet problems. Sorry again.
Well, you were busy Saturday night! Every time I came back I would see a new post from you. Some great looking photos in that bunch. I was really impressed with the CP train coming across a bridge going under a bridge. Where is that located I really like the look of that. Ah yes, and all the CN power which is becoming all too familiar to me. I now see CN locomotives everyday. On the ore docks and on the WC mainline. I do like the paint scheme, especially the scarce Zebra stripe paint job. Saw one of those on Saturday along the WC mainline. There pretty cool.
So you got the GMD1 in there, as thought it might pop up. I have to say that, that is one of my favorite looking locomotives the CN owned. And some interesting looking SW1200s except these types of trucks don't usually sit under the locomotives I have seen. So a flexcoil truck. Very interesting. Well, they can certainly move some freight now. I would like to see that. The RS23, very similar to the ALCO S series locomotives except...WOW.. is that sitting on an AAR type B truck?!! That thing looks huge compared to ALCO's switcher truck that the S series sat on. I'm not use to seeing ones of those standing so tall, but it does look really cool Thanks for sharing.
Great Classical Juice on the CN passenger trains. $59 million was a lot of money to spend on passenger cars but I would do the same if I had the money. To bad the Turbo trains didn't survive but I think your right, gas guzzling beasts, I wonder how much it would cost to keep that thing fueled and running?
Tom- Huh? Edited my post? I did no such thing?? I have been writing this response the whole time and I haven't touched any of my last posts since this morning?? Weird... I'm looking into that, someone may have gotten into my account... I hope not.
Well, you may notice that the rat's patoot <Oh my lordy lou.> is a little cleaner than it was. I decided to sneak in and do a little work for my small mishap this morning. Maybe that will teach me a thing or two....... Thanks for the significant events in Canadian RR history. First unit coal train in 1970.. Now that must have been a cool looking train. I wonder when the U.S.A started there coal trains
Also some nice pictures of the Kansas City area and the places along the way. I really like the shelf with all those model trains. That had to be a nice show. Of course, I enjoy all train shows I go to. I am surprised how big the Union station is in KCity. What a nice looking building. I really liked the interior of the building in your second post. Like I said, A very nice building!
Well, when I said modern train, I really meant a passenger train running today. Just put it in the wrong text. But I did get a good explanation about the cars, Thanks.
Pete- Thanks for the great looking steam pictures. Also that saddle tank engine looks like Henry from Thomas the tank engine. Pretty cool.
An "ICE" SD40-2 locomotive. Or the Iowa, Chicago and Eastern. I do know a little about them. For they are in the vicinity of one of my favorite short lines, the Twin City and Western. Anyway I know that the "ICE" gave most of there locomotives names. Plus they were formed from the Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern along with another railroad with a similar name. Can't remember. But they have become one of the larger regional railroads here in the U.S. I saw a few of the locomotive coming back from a trip to Arizona. I will see what other info I can find out about it. I will get back to you on that.
Doors would be a problem. I think I would like to get off the train someday in my lifetime. But I think they could be fixed if someone spent a little time on them. Maybe.. Thanks for the interior shot of what looks like to me to be an F40. The standard AAR control stand in there along with the front glass pains, give that away. But a very cool looking interior at that. I saw the picture of the pedal on the floor. That pedal, also know as the Dead man's alarm pedal is meant to keep the alerted off. Just a precaution so you don't fall asleep. It makes one heck of a noise..yike. Thanks for sharing.
Good evening Leon, your looking relativly dapper this evening in that CPR conductors hat. I'll just have a Keith's oh and here's an extra twenty for a bit more of a round.
Tom-No problem I have stuff to last a few more days (daze ) as well. It's been not to bad a party anyway. Love those winter shots of the Canadian.Not sure I would want to be in Sioux lookout anytime but summer but some pretty shots none the less.
Okay , I got the photobucket site to cooperate and got the rest of the new photo's uploaded so here goes with part two of the odd ball diesels of Canada.Sorry the numbers of the classic's are out of order but what can you do
CLASSIC DIESEL's#41ONLY IN CANADA YOU SAY PART TWO
Okay here's another look at some of the more unusual one off production runs that came out of the locomotive erecting shops in Canada for the railways located NOB as Tom would say.
As I mentioned in part one , all the big players of the locomotive building market paired up with or built their own assembly plants in Canada to avoid the associated costs of tarrifs on locomotives built in the USA, all but GE.As I said the CLC company of Kingston was building Baldwin and Lima steam engines for their contract partners in stateside for decades. So once the diesel bug bit baldwins few sales to CPR were built by CLC. Also Fairbanks Morse set up shop at CLC for their line of railroad diesels so along with the H series roadswitchers C-liners and trainmasters that were built all to US spec a couple odd balls were also constructed.
The first one was an order for 5 trainmasters for the CPR. Not unusual in any respect other than the CPR ordered them with the optional 2750 pound per hour steam generators which were mounted in a full width of the walkway hood in front of the cab giving them a hammerhead appearance. these were the only FM trainmasters built with this optional feature CPR #8901-8904, after about ten yeasr the CPR discontinued the trains they were pulling and they joined their 15 'normal" sisters in the frieght pool when this happened they were rebuilt with a conventional hood. I haven't got any pictures of these locomotives sorry.
The second semi odd ball were 10 passenger C-liners CLC built for the CNR Super continental,5 A's and 5 B's. These had the full passenegr control features and the 2750 lbs per hour steam gen sets for car heating mounted in the back of the car body, this called for a 5 axle format to carry the weighttwo axle BB front truck and a six axle ( all powered ) rear truck.Thes were designated CPA , CPB 16-5's or a C-liner passenger "A" or "B" 1600hp with 5 axles. similar units were built by FM for teh NYC and the LIRR and the New haven but those were all the larger 2000 or 2400 hp varients so had different motor size and load ratings so the 1600hp units were exclusive to the CNR.
Builders photo from the delson collection no idea te photographer.
Next we move onto the favourite of Canadian alcofans or alcophiles depending on one's prefered designation.thes are the RS10's and the RS18's and their various subvarients. Both locomotives look alike but are different in use and in internals. The RS10 is essentially a full height hooded RS2 same 244 prime mover, but with a full height hood for making work on the prime mover much easier in the elements up here. Most RS10's were fitted with a smaller fuel tank than the RS18 and had lighter weight trucks and wieght for secondary mains and branchlines. they were dual mode in that all the CPR one's were steam generator equiped for commuter train service.The RS10's were always set up to run long hood forward as well as the steam generators were located in the short hood.The RS18 is te MLW take on the Alco RS11. Same basic dimentions but different hood end treatments, no classic Alco nose notches. They came in various set ups but they all used the improved 251 series prime movers,late units were built with factory short hoods.PGE and Cartier ordered the factory low hood units. the CPR rebuilt all their RS18's in the 1980's to short hood configuration in their own shops. it was one of the most wide spread locomotive types of the 50's and 60's in Canada with only the GP7-9 and the SW1200's more numerous. CNR had 150 units, CPR 100 BCRail/PGE 60, Roberville and Sagunay 24 the last ten built with short hoods and the Cartier had 30 all shorthood models. The RS18 was buolt from 1957-1962. The RS10's were built from 1954-56 and rostered 60 units on the CN 45 on the CPR, 2 on The Ontario Northland. All are gone from the big road rosters now, many went on to the various shortlines some in the US some in Canada. several are at the Delson Museum most notably RS10 1400 and ONR unit and the only RS10 still in existance.The CNR rebuilt 12 of their RS18's in the early 70's with A1A-A1A trucks for service on PEI's and Nova Scotia's light branchlines. these replaced smaller RSC13 units that were worn out the A1A trucks all came from scrapped RSC13's. these units were also lightend and downrated from 1800hp to 1400hp and redesignated as RSC14's by the CN shops that did the conversions.
CN RS18 in troonto's Mimico yard photo from the Patterson collection
CP RS10 in Montreal's St luc yarfrom the Patterson collection
CP rebuilt RS18U in welland Ontario.
RS18U in the service of new owner Ontario Southland St thomas Ontario
The next two one offs were built by MLW strictly for the CNR. the first were four little 1000hp roadswitchers built to run on Ontario's and the maritimes ligth branchlines. they were built in conjunction with the GMD1's from GMD as a test to see which manufacterers units were more viable. The RSC24 ws essentially a 1000hp S3 switcher with multiple unit controls and a small electrical cabinet mounted in a tiner shorthood behind the cab. they ran on a short wheel base A1a-A1A truck built by Dofasco. The GMD1's from GMD proved to be more flexable and only te four RSC24's were built. The second small MLW roadswitcher intended for branchline use was the RSC13.A light weight A1A-A1A trucked unit built on the RS2 plateform, similar to US built RSC2's but they had a slightly higher long hood and a difernt truck in this case Dofasco built versions. they were rated at 1250hp and spent their lives 1953-1975 in the maritimes until worn out they were replaced by the prevoiously di
Leon- Could a get another coffee before I go and do some more cleaning. Thanks
Boris, you'll be happy to know that your shed is going to get a cleaning. I know Tom, but I feel it needs to be done, Just something I feel I owe this place.
Anyway, I hope it's not to late for some pictures......
Another nice picture of the shot of the 2816. An she's looking extra nice this day. This place looks really familiar to me. Would this be at Souix St. Marie? That dark blue and white really gives away the ownership of the car at on point in time. The Canadian National.
Picture from: www.trainnet.org/Libraries/catalog001.htm
Now here is a nice picture. A GT SD40-2 leads a passenger train out of Duluth.. Ya I know snow.. But I wasn't surprised by the picture but the man who took this picture. I just found this website and all of the pictures except a few are by a good friend who lives in Superior Wisconsin, Dan Mackey. A well know railfan around this area. I didn't know he had a website like this. I advise you to check out all of the pictures that they have taken. The other guy I know really well is Scott Carney. Now that is cool!!
picture from: duluthsuperior.railfan.net/DWP%20and%20CN.htm
Happy railroading
James
Good evening Mr Leon, my glass is empty so I think that another Keith's is in order if I do say so myself.
James-Nice to see you. I'm glad that you enjoyed the pictures etc.I'm not suopprised at all that you are seeing so much CN power now out your way, and yes the old Zebra scheme is dissapearing as fast as the paint shop can paint them.Mind you I much prefer the original CNR Green Yellow maple leaf schemes as originally applied to all their locomotives,domestic and US based.
Your eyes are not decieving you, The RS23's were built from the get go to sit on AAR type B's.Heavy transfer and road freights were typically powered by stes of three on the CPR and it's Dominion Atlantic lines. Also they were built for road speeds of 65mph not the slower switcher speeds. kit was cheaper for the CPR to speacial order these unit's than to put heavier rail down on their maritime branches and secondary mainlines.
The GMD1's area favourite of mine as well and are all but extinct,you seldom see them out on the road anymore those still in service are kept to the hump yards and classification yards.They all have lost their A1A trucks as well, replaced by stabdard Geep trucks.The 1200RS's flexcoils are different than the road flexcioils you see in the states on say an MP15 or an SW1500. They' re a shorter wheelbase version built by Dofasco ( Dominion Steel fabricating Co of Hamilton On )Again they were built to be flexible a road unit and a switcher. CN and CP still will use them on branchlines for roadswitching industries when GP38's or GP9's are unavailable.
Pete-I just noticed that I failed to answer a query of yours silly me allow me to buy you a bantham's for my rudness.You mentioned about locomotive painting. Most new builds are painted at the factory if it's a GM product. They have when orders are big and the railroads needs the locomotive yesterday snet out primered and numbered only units to the railriad leaving the painting to be completed by the railroads own shops. NS SD70's and UP SD90's come to mind as having this done recently.Now in the case of CN's takeovers of the WC, IC and DMIR the repainting is usually done by the local shops.
Howdy again folks.looks like the theme is taking hold anyway <grin>
James-just caught the pics good ones thnaks for sharing. I'm going to go check your friends site as that's a wonderfull picture. snow or not !I think they got the caption wrong on the steam picture though. Blow it up and you'll see what I mean. It's still a nice engine though, that's CNR Northern 6218 doing one of it's excursions in the 1970's. It ran in southern Ontario from approx 1965-1974 from niagara Falls to Toronto Union on railfan excursions. that bridge is CNR's Welland canl crossing Bridge number 20 in Port Colbourne Ontario on lake Erie. I know that spot well.The 6218 is still aorund as a static display at the Fort Erie Railway Musuem, though not in as nice shape as she is in that shot. The 6218 was the last steamer to be outshopped from CNR's Stratford Ontario "Big Shop" the shops in Stratfiord were a division point as well as Ontario's major steam rebuild center.It closed it's doors in 1974 as diesels don't need as much service. The 6218 was outshopped from Stratford in 1960 giving her 14 more years of excursion life.many times in the 70's 6218 would double head with CN mountain 6060 as emi streamlined passenger engine that still exists and is under steam just west of Calgary !
here's a shot of 6060 in Niagara Falls right before the excurisons were ended the summer iof '76 was the last season for Ontario's regular steam excursions on the CN. this shot was snapped by my dad I was on that train somewhere.
here's a shot of the CPR owned aand rebuilt Royal Hudson 2816 in Milton Ontario in the summer of 2005 she was on her cross country trel along the CPR to celebrate her comming back from the dead. The CPR bought her back from steamtown in pennsylvania in late 2000 and began the rebuilding process $2M later she first steamed again in 2004.The CPR will run her with their Royal Canadian Pacific excursions out west.
Good evening Leon and gents! I'll have the worm in the bottom of the tequila bottle, and and free rounds until the next bottle runs dry.
Couldn't let the day go by without popping in, and seeing the many fine posts from Rob especially, and some top notch stuff from James and Tom. Nice bookcovers from manager Lars, and I'm going to have to catch-up on the posts from the rest of the esteemed patrons of Our Place. Still have to apologize for being so scarce, as I try to accomodate more horse time in my schedule. I do what I can, and then try to remember to shower before collapsing. Just not enough hours in the day, as usual. Sure miss hanging here regularly. Did any of you miss ....
A man walked into a shop and found the clerk stalking flies with a fly swatter. "Have you gotten any?" he asked. The clerk replied, "Yeah. Three males and two females." "How do you tell the difference?" the man asked curiously. "Three were on a beer can and two were on the phone!"
Running very late LEON so let me get a round in please.
ERIC Thanks for the kind words on the photos I will pass the message on to Alan.
I don't suppose there are any FL9s still in service. I suppose though there must have been some of the class saved for museums.
Are your photos in the cab of the X40 or the DD40X.The control panel seems old fashioned to me.
JAMES Glad you liked the steam photos. Thanks for the info on the Iowa & Chicago Eastern, if you can find out more about the line and any idea how the loco turned up in mid Missouri that would be great.
LARS It looks as though you are in for a very busy time, really hope you can get in some fun as well as getting the new house fitted out.
According to the schedule it is only until the end of May that traveling to Kansas City by Amtrak will allow 4 1/2 hours in KC, Tom and I were lucky as we had almost the full amount of time there. Hopefully if the bride and I go we shall have as much time there.
It is a marvelous way to relax, having a beer on a train in good company.
Tom certainly has some great films on at the Emporium, The ones I have not seen I would really like too.
Great to see you in BK. Many thanks for the kind words. I would love to hear some more about your time in the UK sometime, did you spend any time in the West Midlands area with their accent. I worked with a Glaswegian for many years and as you say their use of the language is unique, but one of the best guys I have come across though.
Really great experience of yours on the Canadian and one not to be forgotten, many thanks for sharing it with us.
My Best Regards to Lady Lydia.
ROB We had the same problem here with some one digging and hitting something they was told that was there.
Glad you liked the photos. It seems Canada was the same as BR in regards to steam locomotives. Some of BR class 9F 2-10-0s, which some regarded as the finest freight locos to run in the UK, were withdrawn after only 5 years service a terrible waste in the rush to get rid of steam locos on BR. A similar thing as just happened in China.
It is a pity that is no longer possible to get that great shot of the train passing under the bridge at Bayview. It is surprising how fast a favorite location can change.
Thanks for the info on the locomotive painting.
TOM NO NO not BORIS and I Mud Wrestling, although I believe there may be an end of term demonstration involving H&H and BORIS. Talking of BORIS his is looking very ‘sheepish' lately but I have been sworn to secrecy at the minute but this is dependant on his good behavior.
That diesel in the photo yesterday as got me puzzled, it seems strange how the loco ended up here in Mid-Mo perhaps James can help.
DID you get the latest issue of Classic Trains yet. I got one on Monday and although I have just had a quick glance through, it seems a good one with pics of double headed GG1s in the Scout story and some articles from CM3s area. While picking up the mag I noticed the 12:30 from KC was running over an hour and a half late arriving here, it was the same loco we had Friday.
I have not seen anything in the KC paper as to what the KCS Heritage train was doing, as you say we were fortunate to see it at Union Station.
Many thanks for the KC photos. The Harvey House really is in a splendid room; it is only by studying the photo one realizes how grand it is. The mural came out really well and it is great they have erected a shelter to protect the KC streetcar from the elements since my previous visit to Union Station, a to them.
Wouldn't it be great if they would run a public special with the KCS stock hauled by # 34.
CANADIAN THEME DAY.
Well ROB what can I say, after the trouble with your word processor such great posts I have thoroughly enjoyed reading about the Canadian only locos parts one and two great photos to accompany the posts as well, It is good we shall be able, hopefully, to view some at Delson. I think the low hoods of the RS18U make it look an attractive loco.
CN made a real effort to attract passengers after the war with the fare structure a 50% increase in passengers was a good result. It seems the CN Turbo
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, time for a Sugar Cured Ham Sandwich on rye! Coffee, please!
A Canadian Day indeed! I learned a lot tonight reading all this and checking all pictures! Took some time but well worth it.
Tom – What beer bottles? Hmmm, I wonder what happened on that trip? Or, maybe I don’t want to know? I am afraid the status of Amtrak’s equipment is something we can thank the politicians in DC for. Dirty windows is a no-no. Some more nice pictures from KC! That eastbound locomotive certainly needs a wash! I remember in Washington D.C. with the X2000, when they actually washed the whole train by hand on track 17. It happened a couple of times.The engineer looks like a nice guy! That PCC looks kind of lonely under its roof, but at least it has been preserved! I like those two pictures from and of the Glacier Park car! Snowy, but sitting here in Phoenix it looks nice!James – Some nice pictures, especially the top one of the Via-train! The interior pictures are from the cab of DD40X, not a F40. A little bit of a F40 control stand can be seen in this picture:More nice pictures including one from Duluth! No, I will not make any comments about the snow! Your friend has a interesting website! I didn’t know that Amtrak used to run a train up to Duluth! Lars – Going back soon? You are doing the right thing (Ruth has a different opinion though) Must be a nice feeling to set up the new place the way you’ll like it! Some interesting book(s) covers! I really don’t have any books about Canadian railroads. Added to my shopping list! I saw that Rob likes the first one, Passing Trains!
Upstairs in the middle of the week? No, I wouldn't tell.BK – I am sure you will like Forest Gump! A very good movie!
Two weeks from today I’ll take off for the Rendezvous! I am very much looking forwardto it! I like that story about your trip on board “The Canadian”! Nice of the crew to open the bar again! My Best Regards to Lady Lydia!Rob – You have worked hard today!!!
Glad you liked the pictures! Normally it is not that easy to get inside the cab of locomotives, but at a museum that is not a problem. Interesting reading about the Canada only locomotives! Slightly different design. And two RS23s in Guelph Junction! Been there!I found some more info on The Super Continental from 1955! So the train crew was trained to deal with passengers so they want to come back again and again. They certainly treated the Captain right, he is coming back again and again! Must be a typo about the CPA/CPB locomotives. The rear truck was a 6 wheel truck not a 6 axle truck. Interesting info and pictures!! Also the the pictures of steam excursion trains are most interesting!Pete – I think you should call Bill Gates about your Word document! Don’t trust him!The photos from inside the cab is from DD40X. I know I read about some rebuilt FL9’s still in service. I’ll find out until tomorrow. Doug – We certainly miss you, cowboy! Glad you could stop by for a brief moment tonight! I’ll end this post with a Canadian train in Quebéc, Canada.
Eric
<from my personal collection>
Wednesday's Witticism
A chip on the shoulder is a sure sign of a blockhead.
Mid-week and I'm glad, for this week hasn't started off well here at the bar, nor have things gone quite the way they should have. Sooooo, let's get that freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and maybe even a <light> or <traditional> breakfast!
Heat wave "broke" last night with some fast moving storms roaring through, fortunately nothing severe. Temps are expected to get back to spring-like rather than summer. Awwwright!
A request: For the "I don't know how many" times: PULEEZE refrain from using the EDIT feature on Posts that are hours - days or weeks old. All that is accomplished is to skew the "most current" Post information for those logging on to our Forum and Thread.
It is far better to simply Post a new message. After all, how many people do you think go back to see if any Posts have been edited since they were first read?? Think about it!! Makes no sense. This isn't rocket science, guys . . .
Today is OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
Oh yes, a comment regarding a Pix I provided yesterday of the Canadian "Shield." That photo was NOT "doctored" and is precisely what we saw from the observation dome car on New Years Eve 2002 heading to Vancouver from Toronto. The reason for the ‘artificial" look is probably due to the brilliance of colors, thanx to a great sunny day along with the combination of melting ice ‘n water. Thought perhaps at least one curious mind would want to know . . .
Rob at 2:37 PM ‘n 2:46 PM ‘n 3:59 PM yesterday: Isn't life grand when things "work" the way they're supposed to??? Man oh man, I'm at THAT point lately . . .
Some super fine "stuff" from you to save the "theme" for Tuesday. Most likely we'll see a continuation through today, and who knows, perhaps tomorrow . . .
Didn't know about CLC, but why not, eh Makes perfect sense. A good read, chock full o' informative stuff. Always liked those SW1200s - have a couple on the Can-Am as a matter of fact, one custom painted in VIA Rail livery another in "stock" Amtrak grey.
Never, ever saw a GMD1 - an interesting machine, fer sure, fer sure!
Always liked the RS series of diesels with my favorites going way back to the RS2 . . .
You are absolutely CORRECT in your appraisal about the Harvey House Girls - NOT! Didn't see a Hooters place there, but . . . . never mind. <grin>
Your Classic Diesels #42 pretty much affirms what we were "talking" about the other day with the condition of the railroad's passenger equipment and loco's as a result of the heavy dependency placed upon them during WWII.
Nice progression through the equipment used and the times. I didn't know that the reason CN avoided domes was because of Montreal's Central Station. Surely not the situation later on and continuing to this day.
Lots of good scoop in that Post and I especially appreciated the emergence of VIA Rail information. CP ‘n CN were surely off the hook and looking at those series of drastic cut backs suffered in the 80s and 90s, things surely aren't as bright ‘n rosy as they could've ‘n should've been, eh
Good stuff from our Ontario Connection! See ONE GUY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE! <grin>
Lars at 2:38 PM yesterday: Great Canadian Railways book ‘n video covers from our Manager! I too have some of those books and in this regard YOU CAN TELL A BOOK BY ITS COVER! <grin>
Thanx for coming back to keep the "theme" going, I know afternoons are difficult for you, but then again you GIVE A RAT's PATOOT - and it shows!
Pete at 6:52 PM yesterday: Don't know what to tell ya, Mate - but there's something strange going on with your ‘puter and the WP program you are using. If you saved the work you were preparing to a file then shut down your ‘puter, it surely shudda been there when you turned it back on. For example: I maintain a WP file that I've named "Draft," and in it are the submissions I prepare BEFORE pasting them into the Forum's reply area. Once my Post goes through, I of course delete whatever was in the "Draft" WP file, so that next time I can simply open it and start typing anew . . . The key to all of this is to use the "save" feature - even doing it a couple of times helps if you are experiencing difficulties. Hope this helps . . . Even Molly Throttlebottom cannot be of help with this!
Glad you dropped by, in spite of it all . . .
James at 7:59 PM ‘n 8:22 PM yesterday: Back with all kinds of "stuff" to support the "theme" and the bar! Cleaning the Shed ‘n the Rat's Patoot Room without being "fined" - hmmmmm, now that's worth something. Gotta think about your "reward" for being a very diligent ‘n caring customer!
Your early AM Post showed up on both of my ‘puters as the "most recent," even when using RELOAD/REFRESH. That's why I figured you must've "edited." <weird>
Some mighty fine stuff in those Posts and of course we appreciate it all. That CN steamer with the "white walls" is a terrific photo. Love it! Reminds me of those early days of Gilbert's American Flyer S-gauge trains. They always had those "white w
Continuing on with Canadian Passenger Railroads, here's something from Page 289 of the original Thread back on March 30th, 2006 . . .
Railroad Stations - Terminals & Depots Number One - Toronto's Union Station
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Union Station (Toronto) Union Station is a major railway, subway, and streetcar station at 65 Front Street West between Bay Street and York Street in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Currently, the primary function of the railway station is to act as a terminus for commuters on GO Transit, thanks to which it is busier than any other transport facility in the country, including airports. It also serves as a hub for intercity trains, and many railway companies have their offices within the building. Details The main entrance of Union Station. Union Station is eight storey's tall and features a massive lobby known as the Great Hall, numerous corridors at the top, and a shooting gallery used by CN railway police on the seventh floor. While VIA Rail, the successor to the railways which originally built Union Station, continues to use it as a major hub for the Quebec City-Windsor Corridor (including the joint VIA-Amtrak Maple Leaf train to New York City) and the eastern terminus of The Canadian, the vast majority of passengers travelling through the station are from GO Transit's commuter trains. Toronto Transit Commission riders likewise outnumber VIA passengers. The station is also used by Ontario Northland trains to northern Ontario. Union Station is one of the only large railway stations in North America to use through-train operation. That is, the train platforms are through lines rather than lines which terminate in the station, as in stub-end operation. The name 'Union Station' refers simply to the fact that it united two railways in one building. The platforms in the train shed are very close together. Passengers wait downstairs in a concourse similar to that of an airport prior to their trains arriving at the platform. Once the train has arrived, passengers enter gates which lead via escalator or stairs to the platform where they board the train. Preceding station . . . . . . . . VIA Rail Lines . . . . . . . . . . Following station Oakville (some trains) . . . . . . Toronto - Ottawa . . . . . . . . .Guildwood . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Toronto - Montréal . . . . . . . .Guildwood Oakville . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Windsor - Toronto . . . . . . . .Oshawa (some trains) Brampton . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sarnia - Toronto . . . . . . . . .Terminus Oakville . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Niagara Falls - Toronto . . . . Terminus Washago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Vancouver - Toronto . . . . . . Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Canadian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oakville . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . New York - Toronto . . . . . . . Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Maple Leaf . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ontario - Northland Lines . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Washago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cochrane - Toronto . . . . . . . Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Northlander . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . History Clock outside Union Station. Columns outside Union Station. GO Train waiting area inside Union Station's back area. Toronto's third Union Station (see more on Old Union Station) was the largest enclosed space in Canada at the time it was built. Construction was begun in 1913 and the building was officially opened on August 6, 1927 in a ribbon cutting ceremony attended by His Royal Highness Prince Edward of Wales who cut the ribbon with a pair of gold scissors. Also in attendance was Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King, Prince George, United Kingdom Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin and Mrs. Baldwin, Ontario Lieutenant-Governor William Donald Ross and Mrs. Ross, Ontario Premier George Howard Ferguson, and numerous other members of the Ontario and Canadian governments. Union Station was built by the Canadian Pacific Railway and the Grand Trunk Railway. The architects were G.A. Ross, R.H. MacDonald, Hugh Jones, and John M. Lyle. Like many stations of its period, it is designed in the Classical revival style developed by the École des Beaux-Arts in Paris. In 1954, the Toronto Transit Commission opened a station immediately north of Union Station, which acted as the southern terminus of its new subway line, and as part of 1990's Harbourfront LRT project, they added an underground streetcar loop now used by the 509 Harbourfront and 510 Spadina lines. In 1972, the station was threatened by the two railways' (by this point the Canadian National and Canadian Pacific) development proposal. It would have seen new office and retail developments and a communications and observation tower (which was later re-designed and built as the CN Tower) on the site of Union Station and adjacent rail yards. The entire station was to be demolished, and replaced with an underground terminal, similar to New York City's Penn Station. Local opposition to the proposal was successful in having the city council's decision to support the Metro Centre development overturned.
Ruth- Good to see you.. I need an OJ and a pastry to get the rat's patoot smell out of my mind.
Ok, Ok. Maybe I'm able attend some mornings.. My eyes popped open this morning earlier than usual and I had tears come down my face thinking about the smell of the rat's patoot... What is up???
Anyway I have some acknowledgements and an article for you guys.
Rob- Thanks for the interesting Classical Juice and the pictures. I wish you had a picture of that trainmaster and its nose. For some reason I can't seem to see the locomotive with that wide nose like that. Very cool though. And another noted locomotive I really liked is the RSC24s. I just love how its short little body sits on those trucks, with that wee little gas tank too. It's a funny looking loco but a cool one at that. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for catching my little error there. I went back and looked at the web page and found the picture. Your right, I didn't get the right number. Plus the picture has the year the picture was taken so I should have caught that. But I let you know now. Don't mind the dialogue under the 6218, it's wrong. But it's a cool picture! Thanks for explaining the locomotive to me. To bad it's not being used anymore. I hope someday someone pics the locomotive up and restores it.
Speaking of the GMD1. My dad a few years back had a couple on his train heading down to be sold.. somewhere. He did get pics of them, so I will see if I can find the photo.
Eric- A DD40X....... well I was close.. I think. But a very cool looking interior. And thanks for the true interior of the F40. The interiors look almost the same. I would like to see the one running DD40X someday and time. Thanks for sharing the pic.
Tom- Okay, Toronto's Union stating is bigger and much nicer looking than KCitys. Of course it probably handles twice as many trains than KCity's station. Thanks for all of the information and history regarding the station. It's good to see that such a nice looking building is still in use. Thanks
Ya I hope Boris is happy now, because that shed of his is somehow clean. But by tomorrow that won't be a problem.....
Atlas models
Atlas Model Railroad Company, Inc. makes scale models in N scale, HO scale, and O scale. The company is based out of Hillside, NJ. They produce a wide variety of locomotives, rolling stock, and vehicles. Atlas is well known for their flex track and codes 55, 80, 83 and 100 track. Atlas also makes structures and bridges.
History
In 1924 Stephan Schaffan Sr. founded the Atlas Tool Company in Newark, NJ. In 1933 his son, Stephan Schaffan Jr., came to work for his father at the age of sixteen. Steve Jr. built model airplanes as a hobby and frequented a local hobby shop. Being an enterprising young man, he would often ask the owner if there was anything he could do to earn some extra spending money. Tired of listening to his requests, the hobby-store owner threw some model railroad track parts his way and said, "Here, see if you can improve on this".
In those days, railroad modelers had to assemble and build everything from scratch. Steve Jr. created a "switch kit" which sold so well, that the entire family worked on them in the basement at night, while doing business as usual in the machine shop during the day.
Subsequently, Steve Jr. engineered the stapling of rail to fiber track, along with inventing the first practical rail joiner and pre-assembled turnouts and flexible track. All of these products, and more, helped to popularize model railroading and assisted in the creation of a mass-market hobby. The budding entrepreneur quickly outgrew the limitations of a basement and small garage operation. Realizing they could actually make a living selling track and related products, Steve and his father had the first factory built in Hillside, New Jersey at 413 Florence Avenue in 1947. On September 30th, 1949, Atlas Tool Company Inc. was officially incorporated as a New Jersey company.
Info from: www.Wikipedia.org
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Just some stuff, a day and years late.
Thanks Doug for short post to reply to. There's horses below at Grand Trunk
Toronto
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1882125510&id=79
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=1778290789&id=37
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=1564810868&id=55
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=4681503&id=46
Montreal
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=-46471584&id=56
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=-207375474&id=56
Royalty
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=1411856659&id=29
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=-293392633&id=29
Grand Trunk Pacific
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=-46633253&id=26
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=-366609279&id=50
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=44127510&id=50
http://www.imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=87166652&id=58
Bluejays Skydome 1979
http://67.15.20.45/images/v/VIA_Power_at_Spadina.jpg.17677.jpg
Lytton, BC 1986
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/w/WeixlCNWhite_Canyon05-86.jpg.92051.jpg
Monticello, Illinois 2007
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CN6789.jpg.73144.jpg
Canadian Pacific
FP7 Dorval, Quebec 1966
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CPR_1404.jpg.87597.jpg
RDC Woodstock, Ontario 1957
http://67.15.20.45/images/c/cp9050-1.jpg.49720.jpg
4-6-2 Leaside station Toronto 1963
http://67.15.20.45/images/c/cp2309-1.jpg.48603.jpg
Caboose Magog 1961
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CP_Caboose_a.jpg.73240.jpg
MLW RS18 White River Jct 1961
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CPR_8824.jpg.37573.jpg
MLW FPA Dorval, Quebec 1964
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CP_4089_upgraded.jpg.95977.jpg
RS3 Magog 1963
http://67.15.20.45/images/c/CP_8434.jpg.33789.jpg
RS2 Lyndonville, Vt 1961
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CP_8403.jpg.15318.jpg
SD 40 Lake Louise, ALberta 1969
http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CP_5534_Lk_Louise_Aug_69.jpg.65219.jpg
Ontario Northland
http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/eisenbahn/pic3/FP7_O.jpg
Iowa, Chicago & Eastern
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=200014
http://www.icerail.com/webmap.html
Mike
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. We're back for a few days now. Have to do what the boss tells us to do.
Some comments, etc. over posts going back more than a few days now.
Rob has been by with all kinds of useful information. I have enjoyed looking at all of the pictures, diesel bldrs shots, etc. The CP shot with the SDs at Bayview was a keeper. Also liked the TH&B yard picture. CN FM locomotives operated on the CV back in the day. In fact, they were some of the first diesels to appear on the CV.
James sent a lot of material. The GEVO drawing you're working on shows an eye for detail. Form follows function in design, but they could have done a little better, IMHO. Incidentally, you want to have some fun around hot environments, spend some time around cement kilns - insanely hot and dangerous. We also used to do a fair amount with thermal coal dryers. Don't see too many of them nowadays. Many of them used pulverized coal to fire their furnaces - this sort of thing gives you pause as well. It's not the heat, Mildred, it's the possibility of explosions.
Eric - you are correct abt. Rte. 128. I remember when the station there was a tin shelter - sort of looked like an old garage. Later the NH built the brick station you probably remember. It's all changed now with NEC electrification, parking stacks, high level platforms and so on. The racetrack to Boston is still there. You probably remember going west out of there that you could get a pretty good roll on a train until you got to Sharon which was the ruling grade on the Shore Line. AT 489 is a r/b FL9; probably the only thing on it that was close to original equipment was the trucks.
Pete - Mushy peas indeed - a staple at our hose. My mom was 1st generation UK in this country. Thanks also for the steam shots; especially the 0-6-0 saddle tank.
Mike sent pictures and industrial information.
The second FL9 shot is a time machine for me anyway. It was made at Providence and was taken early in the a.m. The train is heading for New York (probably a Penn job given the consist). The station building is right behind the locomotives. The old Sheraton Biltmore Hotel is at the right of the picture. My dad worked there when he was in school. The building in the center of the picture is a bank which has had several names over the years; Fleet being the last I remember. We always called it the "Daily Planet" building after the newspaper in Superman. The entire railroad infrastructure is gone now, although, the station building is still there. The new station is almost on the grounds of the RI Capitol building; basically behind where the photographer was standing.
Got a kick out of the "Peace Commission" lithograph. What a crew; "Spoons" Butler - look up about him and the folks in New Orleans, "Fighting Joe" Hooker who got shot up at Chancellorsville, but later redeemed himself. O.O. Howard, the one-armed commander of the 11th Corps who also got chewed up at Chancellorsville, and was blamed (probably unjustly) for the conduct of the 11th Corps at Gettysburg. I won't even get into discussing Sheridan. Would suggest that Hancock was probably the best corps commander of the lot. Then we have Sherman and Farragut . Interesting selection.
Lars is here and gone; but the bookmobile stopped for a visit - more stuff to look at for potential purchases. I don't think he'll trade his Mets cap for a Marlins hat anytime soon, however,
I have enjoyed reading and viewing material from OSP and Pete's excellent adventure. Thanks for the hotel ads and all of the other pictures. I enjoyed looking at the lineup of power on that mural in KCUT. The Jefferson City station reminds me very much of the old B&O station at Martinsburg, WV. Hobby shops are hazardous to my wallet as are bookstores, hardware stores, auto parts places, etc. Let's pack sandwiches and spend the day doing the circuit - Borders, Home Depot, Lowes, and Tractor Supply. Wish we had a LHS in the area. It's a 110 mile RT to get to one from here.
Good movie choices, too.
Jimmy Piersall was a truly gifted outfielder. Excellent fielder and a good hitter with some power. He played for the Red Sox from 1950 to 1958, then went to Cleveland, Washington, and closed out his career with the Mets and the Angels. Those of us who were around at the time remember him playing the outfield with Ted Williams and Jackie Jensen. Piersall was in center field most of the time and Jensen in right. The movie is pretty accurate by all accounts. Of course, the medications and support system(s) we have to day did not exist back then. Piersall had to be a good outfielder given who was out there with him. In 1956, he had 455 Pos, 10 assists, and 4 errors; a .991 FA - that's good at any time. BTW, Red Sox were 84-70 that year; a 4th place finish in the American League behind New York, Cleveland, and Chicago. OSP's Dodgers finished third in the NL behind the Braves and the Cardinals.
I will get to James's new post and Mike's new pictures a little later.
Work safe
Was going to hold off in responding, but Shane "flicked my switch" - POINT OF ORDER!
The Brooklyn Dodgers finished 1st in 1956 in the National League. Behind them were the Milwaukee Braves, Cincinnati Reds, St. Louis Cardinals, Philadelphia Phillies, New York Giants and Chicago Cubs! <geesh> <double geesh>
Don Newcombe was the MVP that year as a PITCHER and he also won the FIRST Cy Young Award after racking up 27 wins. Duke Snider belted a league leading 43 homers for the Bums who lost to the Yankees in the World Series, after having won their first title in 1955! Series MVP, Don Larsen of the Yanks pitched a perfect game #5 in the '56 series . . . quite a year.
I missed the entire fall pennant race and series as I was in the service then and doing "other" things in other places.<ugh>
One more of these "gafs" and YOU Sir may very well receive a <tweeting> for aspersions cast in the direction of OSPs favorite childhood baseball team!! (That's #39 on the "list" of Oh-fence-ez!) So there.
Mushy peas equates to mushy memories . . . <grin>
Ruth my deAH, I think a sandwich would be fine today, one of MY specials of course - ham, Swiss, mustAHd 'n buttAH with two extra large 'n crunchy pickles from the barrel. Stealing HIS sandwich, yeah right! Nice try "bookend" . . . . Ah yes, treats for the crittAHs and a small jar of pickled pig's feet for Boris. Round for the house and the change is for YOU!
So, Da Bossman "nailed" Shane on an inaccuracy regarding baseball and Da Bums! He's right, Shane - 1956 was a pennant winnAH for the Dodgers, their very last in Brooklyn, as Milwaukee's Braves won in 1957 'n 1958. Next winnAH was out in LA in 1959 for the transplanted Dodgers.
Obviously I'm still out 'n about the decks and we'll be heading southward in a few days. No rush, but we've got quite a few things to get moving on and they're all fun. Nothing like depleting the "treasury" at this stage of life, huh???
Loved the Kansas City Pix from Da Boss and today's installment on Toronto's Union Station. That's a REAL train station for sure and always good thinking about the hustle 'n bustle still going on in places like that. Sure, a far cry from the glory days, but . . .
Looks like Rob came through with all kinds of good material for HIS selection for the Tuesday "theme." Don't even get me started on 'puter issues, for simply to acknowledge they exist is a sure-fire way to derail my system. Shhhhhhhhhh. <grin>
This stuff with the "editing" really does cause problems and I think we should all consider a bit more "care" and etiquette in the way we operate. As Da Bossman said, what's the point of going back to edit when no one is going to read it, especially if they've already been there 'n done that, so to speak??!! It surely isn't rocket science OR brain surgery OR rocket surgery OR brain science OR . . .
Good to see Shane back at the bar with all sorts of info for the gang. Same for Pete 'n Eric and young James.
Time again for the Book Mobile (nice name!) so here's a few more Canadian Railways oriented covers . . .
Ruth, take a break - I'll handle things behind the bar for awhile . . .
James at 8:20 AM today: Fine, fine INCLUSIVE Post!
Wudda thunk that Boris' Shed wudda gagged a healthy maggot, surely NOT the Rat's Patoot Room! Perhaps those spitoons . . . <ugh>
Toronto's Union Station is a REAL train station whereas KCity's Union Station is a rehabbed tourist attraction with a focus on "attractions" - special events and the like. Amtrak only recently returned and operates 6 trains a day - 3 in 'n 3 out. That's it. So to call it a station is a stretch in these times. BUT those of us who travel to KCity are thankful for small favors and it is a nice place to visit, no matter how many times.
Apprecite the ATLAS "stuff" for this OPTIONAL Toy 'n Model Trains Day! I think you and I are the only ones remembering what Wednesdays include . . . no matter, good stuff and hope the guys pick up on it.
Mike at 8:42 today: URLs . . . silent, except for Doug. Hmmmmm.
CM3 Shane at 9:44 today: The return of our WVA Connection - midweek at that! Yeah, tell us all about it - work, work, work 'n very little play. I recall those times . . . <grin>
I vividly recall the Piersall story and of course those times. That was a terrific outfield and doubt that it has been replicated since. Sure, there have been some "boppers" come 'n go, but when you think about the 3 you mentioned -
Seriously doubt that the Larsman will turn in his Mets cap for a Marlins fin. Ain't no way! And the Jints over the Dolphins is my guess too. Hockey? Ha. Fuhgedaboudit! Basketball too - he's a New YAWKER and should be quite at home where he is. Between the Canadians down there and New YAWKERS, say no more . . .
Visit, insights, quarters 'n round much appreciated!
Lars at 11:10 AM today: The return of the Book Mobile and some fine Canadian stuff.
Noted a resemblance in that book cover of yours with the CN open-ended observation car and one we saw in KCity . . .
Got your Email and appreciate the schedule. Not to worry 'bout the bar - we'll muddle through as always. As I've been saying all along, EXPECT many, many days of little to no activity as the guys take their respective "leaves" . . . bound to happen.
I think Shane walked right into that one, but then again, it cudda been a "test" - clever man that coalminer and one never really can TRUST a historian these days (daze)!
Ya know, BK may have something in his "claim" to THE sandwich. His Post was far earlier than your first and afterall it's in the "record." Hmmmmmm. But that's okay - it's become your "signature sandwich" and we all KNOW it! <grin> But then again . . .
So what's this business going on of "meeting" with Ruth, eh
And since it is our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! - check these out from THE Model Trains store in KCity's Crown Center:
LGB layout
Marklin layout
Intriguing model trains
Marklin trains display case
Display case with O gauge trains - two Brit consists; can you find ‘em??
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house, $ for the jukebox and Dodgerdogs all round.
Abject apologies to OSP. The wheels fell off- I had the right #s for Piersall and put the 1957 figures in for the Dodgers - what next! We all remember what Brooklyn did in 1956.
Better get out of here as we are having the third violent "chance of a thundershower" of the day. Just wanted to set the record straight.
work safe
Another round Tom and hi again
Boomer moments, I get them all the time. Here's Piersall:
http://sportstemples.bpl.org/IMGs/STMedium/tm_st11194.jpg
http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18334&stc=1&d=1169954987
http://www.iamdanaustin.com/piersall/pic04.jpg
A pint of Holden's Mild please for another great Canadian Theme day.
ERIC Still having trouble with the computer, I saved the post I done last night in word and it is still there yet the one before wasn't.
Thanks for the cab photo from the F40 and I will look forward to the rebuilt FL9 info.
I noticed in the photo of Canadian 3090 that there was left hand running.
JAMES We have a very happy BORIS now his shed is clean again
Many thanks for the history of Atlas and Stephen Schaffan JR and his inventions to build a better model track.
MIKE Thanks for the great Canadian photos in the links and the ICE photo and map.
CM 3 I seem to recall that a railway in the UK did experiment with using pulverized coal for use in some steam engines, I don't believer the experiment was long lasting.
I very much miss the mushy peas are the ones you have home made, if they were I would love to have the recipe. I have not seen any in sale in the shops here.
Glad you liked the steam pics. I will try to find out about the Jefferson City station from one of the volunteers there.
Certainly not getting involved in the baseball between the OSP, LARS and you, although I am on your side after the slight to that most wonderful of foods Mushy Peas.
Stay safe from those storms
LARS Many thanks for some more, great Canadian book covers. I wonder what the structure was used for in the bottom left of the CP facilities cover was used for.
TOM It was great to talk to you today. Tried firing up the firing the puter again and so far so good.
I will let you know if the problem with the dirty Amtrak windows as improved any next week when the bride and I go to K.C.
Many thanks for the Toronto Union Station encore.
There cannot be many stations that have a shooting gallery in the building. The station certainly had a fine group of people at its opening and it is great that the fine building was not demolished as proposed in 1973. Were those great photos of yours taken after the Redevelopment mention that was going to take place after 2003.
Those photos in the model shop came out really well. Looking forward to visiting it again next week.
There was little piece in the KC Star business about the CEO of the KCS had been at Union Station to show the new paint scheme some KCS locos are being painted in, we just a glimpse of them as we were approaching the station, that could explain why the KCS heritage train was there. As you said to James although there is not much passenger train activity at KC Union Station we must be grateful that the station did survive..
A couple of photos of the HO layout at KC Union Station last New Year
Well LEON I try a Golden Glow and another round please.
Pete .
Good Morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Thursday morning, Leon! Just a cup of coffee! You'll keep the change!
Some more interesting stuff from and about Canada and its railroads! Plus some model train pictures and info!
Tom – It was Amtrak who washed the X2000 by hand!
Yes, of course, you are absolutely right, all engineers are very nice people! Don’t think anything else. What’s wrong with a 6-axle truck? It will eat the rails in the curves and/or derail. But otherwise it is okay! Union Station, Toronto! I liked that station when we were there. But for an unknown reason I did not take any pictures from the inside! Shooting gallery inside the station? Lots of interesting facts! I like that aerial view of the station! I like that model train store you visited in KC! The HO layout is Märklin! I guess you noticed the two GG1s in the Märklin’s display case! James – I would also like to see UP’s DD40X running! Must be something else. Thanks for the info on Atlas Model Railroad Company! I have an Atals locomotive somewhere. I have to get my model trains out of that cabinet and take some pictures.Mike – Thanks for the pictures! Interesting to see Toronto back in the “old” times! And the picture from Lytton, BC is magnificent! Plus a bunch of different Canadian locomotives in Cananda and US!CM3 – Yes, I remember the brick building at Route 128! I think I took a picture of it. I have to check my negatives! High level platforms? I guess that was kind of expected after the electrification. I also remember that grade you mentioned! Maybe I don’t have Alzheimer’s? Sometimes I wonder. FL9 is rebuilt!? You are probably right about the trucks being the only equipment close to original today.Lars – Some more book(s) covers! CP and CN plus James’ hometown railroad (I think)! Hard to pick any book in particular, they all look very interesting!Pete – Computer trouble! There is only one advice I can give you, it is called Macintosh! I am afraid I did not have time tonight to look up the FL9 info, but I have a reminder on a post-it note in front of me. A quick look gave this info:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_FL9Never thought about the left hand running in the photo of 3090, but you are right! Nice pictures of the HO-layout at KC Union Station!
Toronto 1993.
Thursday and we're heading fast to the week's end. Check out our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast. Down it with some freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee along with a pastry or two from The Mentor Village Bakery!
Two weeks from TODAY for the Rendezvous in St. Louis to begin!
CM3 Shane at 3:24 PM yesterday: Dodgerdogs - now there's a memory for ya! Last one I had was in 1988 at Dodger Stadium in Chavez Ravine, Los Angeles. They knew how to do it right when it came to concessions - prices didn't knock your socks off. Used to attend as many of the Cardinals games as I could, along with the Reds (used to call Cincinnati "home" for decades). ALWAYS rooted against the Dodgers, something that surely would've been out of the question back in the 50s . .
Okay, you're off the hook, but watchitfella! <grin>
Second installment of quarters ‘n round ‘n of course the "dogs" most appreciated!
Mike at 5:13 PM yesterday: More URLs from silent Mike . . .
Pete at 5:42 PM yesterday: Glad to note that you finally made it on-line. Those ‘puter issues can drive you mad! <grin>
The Toronto Union Station Pix aren't mine - got ‘em elsewhere in the Ether . . . they are reflective of the way things look today.
I met the CEO of KCS at a meeting in JCity several years ago when I used to attend those quarterly gatherings with state, local (10 communities along the Stl-KC route) and Amtrak people. Nice guy to speak with and he surely had a "vision" for the resurrection of passenger service between KCity and points south. Of course it was envisioned to be Amtrak, but he was all for it back then. Ah, to dream . . .
The recollections are vivid when it comes to a shut ‘n shuttered KC Union Station. Amtrak back then used a rather small, but modern "pill box" just a hop, skip ‘n jump from where KCUS is located. Then, the momentum began to build to reopen the place, but not for trains - but as a Science Center for kids. Took Amtrak many years to finally get back into the station and not without a bunch of "issues" to be settled in favor of the RR. Crazy, eh?? You'd think they wudda been willing to jump through a hoop of fire just to get a place like that. Yes, it is great to have the structure alive ‘n well once again.
Nice shots of the HO layout . . .
By the by, the name of THE model train store in Crown Center is Hall's Station.
Thanx for the Post and of course the afternoon phone call . . . Rendezvous arrival is 2 weeks from today!
Eric at 1:06 AM today: Over a 7 hour gap in "chat," but yours always can be counted on!
I'd wager that Amtrak only washed YOUR train due to the attention it was getting. Wonder if their own equipment received equal attention Nope, is my guess. <groan>
Shooting galleries in train stations aren't all that novel. Remember the 1987 flick with the shooting scene in Chicgo's Union Station Name, you ask?? The Untouchables with Kevin Costner and Sean Connery. Watch for it at the Emporium Theatre!! <grin>
REALLY "dig" that FL9 in New Haven livery on that link!
Nice photo of your train in Toronto (yes?)!!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. Tonight is Fish ‘n Chips Nite! Dinner begins at 5 PM.
Cindy is now our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
We'll go back to some of yesterday's posts.
Mike sent pictures.
I have been accused of being an "industrial archeologist" before, so the picture of Spadina in 1933 was interesting. Most of it is gone now, but I did get there before it all disappeared. The inhabitants were more than friendly and gave me the run of the place. I burned up approx. 10 rolls of film shooting MLW power, passenger equipment, etc. Of course this was over thirty years ago, now.
The Queen is going to be in Virginia tomorrow, I guess and then will be going to watch the horsies in Louisville. Closest I'll get to seeing her is on TV and when she probably flies over the house heading west. I did see her during the Bicentennial when I was living in Boston. The picture made at the Forum (I KNOW I got that one right - LOL) was a good one although she looked like she would have rather been someplace else. Montreal truly did have some teams back then.
The shots in Vermont got me all homesick.
Now back to Jimmy Piersall. The first picture was made in the player's parking lot at Fenway. The boys sure drove different vehicles back then - and they probably drove themselves to and from work. The second one would not open, but the third shot of him when he was with the Mets looks to have been made at the Polo Grounds.
Lars - It's stupidity on my part; not inaccuracy; should have read the post b4 I mashed the print button. You gotta stop sending book covers - the potential purchase list keeps getting longer. I see three more to examine when I get north later this summer.
OSP sent some fine material on Toronto and some great model pictures. Look what's in the showcase when we enlarge the picture. Let's see, wrap up the Empire State Express that's on the top shelf, and we'll also give that P Company train and locomotive a good home. The LNER and the Santa Fe trains are intriguing, but we don't want to be greedy do we? Lars will be after the DRGW train because of the dome - it would be a nice display piece.
Pete sent some comments. Re the recipe. My mom boiled everything. Anyway, I do have some of her recipe books so I will see what I can find. She eventually learned how to cook, but that's another story for another time.
The Classic Trains magazine showed up here yesterday p.m. when I picked up the mail. The overhead view of White Sulphur Springs is a good one. The layout is not really that much different today. There are a few passenger cars on display behind the station. The station building itself is in good shape, and the Greenbrier recently reopened after a remodeling in which they kept most of the Dorothy Draper colors, etc. Well worth a trip - you can get there by train, and the limo meets the train to take you to the hotel. Be sure to bring $.
East is to the left of the photograph. The White Sulphur Springs tunnel is just out of the picture to the left. Tough grade eastbound, and sometimes you see pushers on trains. It's quite a show with lots of noise, smoke going up, and sand going down.
Ronceverte, WV is not too far to the west. Plans are afoot to purchase the station from CSX and restore it as well. We are relatively fortunate in that many of the old C&O station buildings are either in use or have been preserved. Let's see (based on recent posts and photographs):
Charleston - In use
Handley - Gone
Montgomery - Gone
Thurmond - In use - completely restored by National Park service
Prince - In use with additional preservation plans in progress - this building is historically significant as it was about the only station C&O constructed to reflect planned Chessie operation (IOW the train that "never was.")
Hinton - In use
Alderson - Restored to original C&O colors and in use
White Sulphur Springs - In use
Clifton Forge - In use
Staunton - Restored - In use
Charlottesville - 50 and 51 stop at Southern Ry. Station in Charlottesville. The old C&O station is just east of where C&O and SOU cross at grade. The building is in use, but not as a station.
Also in the magazine is some color photography of traction operations in north central WV back in the day, and some wonderful CV color photography as well.
Our Canadian friends will enjoy the picture of the old Ottawa station.
Ruth, I'll have a frosty mug of Schaefer and one of my Larsman special hero sandwiches of ham 'n Swiss, mustAHd 'n buttAH with two extra large crunchy pickles from the barrel. Of course, treats for the crittAHs and a small jar of pickled pig's feet for our man, Boris! A round to be held in abeyance 'til the joint is rockin' and the change is for you!
Decision time in the Larsman household has resulted in a caravan to the Keys comin' straight up. The Mrs. has decided that we MUST drive down because of the "stuff" she absolutely NEEDS at the new digs which would be far too much to check as baggage if we flew. Sons all have decided THEY wanna go too and will HELP with carting our "stuff" to the south i ntheir vehicles. Grandma will be in the care of the gals while we're away along with #3 son who can't get away from that thing called WORK! <grin> Stay tuned, this should be a Cecil B. DeMille extravaganza when ready to roll! <yikes>
Really liked those Kansas City model train pix from that store you 'n Pete visited. First rate, for sure! My not-so-eagle-eyes tell me that there's a LNER passenge consist in the display case and down further there appears to be a Brit-looking train BEHIND the Santa Fe consist, but cannot make out the roadname. Do I win, huh, huh?? And WHAT do I win?? Or maybe WHO - but that's a story for 'nother time!
The Marklin stuff is great looking too and reminds me very much of what I used to see in the "upscale" stores many years ago when every now 'n then I'd check out the European model trains. Really "neat" and I always liked the way they designed that 3rd rail in the middle . . . very clever for sure.
I'm not so certain the Marlin stuff exactly measures up to HO in scale. Appears just a bit smaller. Anyone know for sure??
Noted the comments from Eric regarding Amtrak hand cleaning the X2000. Those people who did that shudda been hired to take care of the train we took up to Plattsburg and back - outside of it was in dire need of both were in dire need of a bath too. <ugh>
See that Shane made it in today and has continued on with his insights regarding this 'n that. Little surprised that there's no baseball being mentioned, but it IS early, huh?? Youbetchaboots it is. I'm still in the 'hockey' mode and am rooting the Sabres on against the Rangers. Don't know why, but I've never really been high on the Rangers, although their games are lotsafun to attend. Rowdy, raucus and just the way I like 'em! Islanders have been "my team" since they came into the league decades past. Anyway, good to see the coalminer back with us.
Oh yes, Tom's correct - Mets 'til the end. Ain't NO way I'll evAH root for a Florida based team in ANY pro sport over "my" New YAWKERS! <grin>
Also good to see Pete make it in to fill that PM "slot" Cap'n Tom always mentions. It is one of the more critical time periods and as seen lately, has been pretty much the last post for the daylight and sometimes entire remainder of the day. Good seein' ya, mate! Another Amtrak trip comin' up I noted. You must surely be a glutten for punishment! Seriously though, hope you and the Mrs. enjoy the day (when??) and also hope the UP doesn't cause delays along the way.
Received an email from BK (also addressed to Tom) and he may be off-line for a bit as things aren't going so well in Alberta. Thought I'd just mention it because we are going to be down, down, down in numbers as these weeks press on. It's one thing to say you're a "regular," it's times like these to demonstrate it if you're free to do so. Just a "plug" for our bar, guys!
Noted a "blurb" on our Thread from Rene S from over on the Garden Railways Forum - here's what it says:
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That's about it for me as the paperwork for the bar is now in order, the Bar Chandler has the stock inventoried and in sufficient supply to meet demand. Kitchen staff is under the charge of our Chief Chief , trolleyMAN Count Robulla, Ontario Connection, el Supremo, and so on! <grin> Pretty much gave up on having an assistant manager, a good idea, but no serious takers. Oh well, sorry Cap'n, looks like you'll be assuming the role once we pack up the buggy for the trip to the Keys. Sorry. <groan>
Ruth, another if you please, and c'mon over here a second, I have something to share with you . . . .
CP FP9A #1432 (photo: John Binley)
CP FP9A #1416 (photo: Ted Ellis)
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