"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . July 27th thru August 2nd: Lonesome Dove - The Outlaw Years <1996> Starring: Eric McCormack, Tracy Scoggins & Scott Bairstow - and - ENCORE Presentation of North West Frontier <1959> Starring: : Kenneth More, Lauren Bacall, Herbert Lom, Wilfrid Hyde-White & I.S. Johar. SHORT - The Three Stooges: Heavenly Daze <1948>.
<Note: North West Frontier first shown on Sunday Feb 19th thru 26th, 2006>
Lonesome Dove - The Outlaw Years <1996>
PLOT SUMMARY: The untamed glory of the Old West as it really was returns when Lonesome Dove: The Outlaw Years saddles up for another season of high-spirited episodes, with a new look and an exciting cast of characters struggling to survive on the wild frontier. The year is 1880. Curtis Wells, the locale of Lonesome Dove: The Outlaw Years, is now a boomtown on the Montana frontier. When neighboring Sweetwater was left in ashes by a prairie fire, its whores and desperadoes took up residence in Curtis Wells, changing its character forever. Newt Call has come back to the town after living the past two years on the trail as a bounty hunter. Call is a man whose past has left its scars. Having left Curtis Wells a few nights after the explosion which killed his beloved Hannah, Call went on a downward spiral, aimless and soulless, eventually hitting bottom. Coming back to the town has reopened some of those old wounds for Call, not the least of which is his unresolved business with Clay Mosby, the man who coveted his wife before the fire took her. Mosby has made Curtis Wells his personal dominion. Behind his charming, roguish facade, he is a ruthless businessman, swift and severe with those who cross him, ready to shape the town to his own dark vision. Lonesome Dove: The Outlaw Years brings to life all the grit, romance and excitement of the West--an untamed world where anything is possible.
The untamed glory of the Old West as it really was returns when Lonesome Dove: The Outlaw Years saddles up for another season of high-spirited episodes, with a new look and an exciting cast of characters struggling to survive on the wild frontier. The year is 1880. Curtis Wells, the locale of Lonesome Dove: The Outlaw Years, is now a boomtown on the Montana frontier. When neighboring Sweetwater was left in ashes by a prairie fire, its whores and desperadoes took up residence in Curtis Wells, changing its character forever. Newt Call has come back to the town after living the past two years on the trail as a bounty hunter. Call is a man whose past has left its scars. Having left Curtis Wells a few nights after the explosion which killed his beloved Hannah, Call went on a downward spiral, aimless and soulless, eventually hitting bottom. Coming back to the town has reopened some of those old wounds for Call, not the least of which is his unresolved business with Clay Mosby, the man who coveted his wife before the fire took her. Mosby has made Curtis Wells his personal dominion. Behind his charming, roguish facade, he is a ruthless businessman, swift and severe with those who cross him, ready to shape the town to his own dark vision. Lonesome Dove: The Outlaw Years brings to life all the grit, romance and excitement of the West--an untamed world where anything is possible.
<from: amazon.com>
North West Frontier <1959>
PLOT SUMMARY: In northwestern India soon after the turn of the 20th Century, Moslem rebels seek to kill a six-year-old Hindu prince to end his family line. Captain Scott of the British Army is ordered to get the prince out of the region safely. Adventure ensues as Scott sneaks the child away, through Moslem-held territory, by train. Also on board are the boy's American governess, an arms merchant, a cynical reporter, and two upper class Britons.
In northwestern India soon after the turn of the 20th Century, Moslem rebels seek to kill a six-year-old Hindu prince to end his family line. Captain Scott of the British Army is ordered to get the prince out of the region safely. Adventure ensues as Scott sneaks the child away, through Moslem-held territory, by train. Also on board are the boy's American governess, an arms merchant, a cynical reporter, and two upper class Britons.
SHORT: Heavenly Daze <1948>
PLOT SUMMARY: In Heaven, Shemp is informed by his Uncle Mortimer that he can't get in unless he reforms Moe & Larry, who plan to use the money Shemp left them to sell a phony fountain pen invention. (It writes under whip cream). After haunting the two and foiling their plan, Shemp awakes and realizes it was all a dream, and he set his bed on fire with a cigarette.
In Heaven, Shemp is informed by his Uncle Mortimer that he can't get in unless he reforms Moe & Larry, who plan to use the money Shemp left them to sell a phony fountain pen invention. (It writes under whip cream). After haunting the two and foiling their plan, Shemp awakes and realizes it was all a dream, and he set his bed on fire with a cigarette.
<from: threestooges.net>
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Enjoy the weekend!
Tom
<but go ahead 'n slip your messages through the mail slots on our doors!>
G'day Gents!
I KNOW some of you are "out there" for I've seen you logged on . . . the continuing mystery of way things are . . . anyway, a rare appearance by me on this day off . . . since I'm on 'light duty' 'n things are rather uneventful in this oppressive heat we're experiencing in mid-continent USA - figured I'd drop off a little something for our crew in advance of the opening hour on Monday . . .
Named Passenger Trains
from the Classic Era - Number One
Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR)
<A form of this was initially Posted on 03 Mar 2007, Page 41 of "Our" Place II>
The Pennsylvania Railroad operated several dozen named passenger trains over the course of its existence. They included:
<source: http://www.wikipedia.com/ wtih additions from other sources>
Enjoy!
Cross another one off of "Fergie' Bucket List".
Has to be one of the World's "All Time Classics"! Fell in love with her when I was a teenager~
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Well good evening folks in to clean up the paparwork.I'll leave a twenty for the morning spiked coffee for the gang.Have to say it's been onen odd weekend. My help arrievd on Saturday so we could finally finish the chain link fencing in my back 40, we got 15 of the thirty poles in and pole cemented and all H_E_double hockey sticks broke out, and absolute killer of a band of thunders torrms from two in the afternoon till well after ten at night,all said the we aquired 55mm of rainWith all the rain this summer has produced they shouldn't complain about lake levels this year.Needless to say the rest of the poles went in today they day we had envisioned getting the links up oh well that's next week now
Tom-Congrats I think on winning the latest mind buster from Pete,hpfully the prize will be a good one Yes you are right about the girls, they aren't twins in the literal sence they are twins in their ability to scare off any live human .But are mother and daughter ,though I would be uimpressed if you could tell them appart. Only Boris have ever been sweet on them.
We've had a fair bit of heat this past week as well and the day of Thunderstorms was the result,"spoused" to get another one over night tonight as well.Great pics on saturday and I liked today's treat of the PRR info
I do read the posts as a general rule,though sometimes your "brain droppings" are a bit ahrd to follow but I did inded get the gist of what you printed the other day. And you say I'm a sicko ! ( guess we will blame it on the heat and humidity )
Eric-I'm wondering are you getting another cake and another party from work when you do your final retiring
Pete-Nice to see that you kept us afloat on saturday.I thought that I might end up floating but we weathered it and my fence poles were not washed away.More good pictures as always
Nick-It's never a bad thing when you get to play with your trains / miniature transportation empire I'm assuming that Sir Mick is going to start getting old age pention now. ( I wonder if it covers botox or rehab stints ) As far as Keith goes, I'm guessing that they will name either a funeral home , or a section of the town cemetary after him.He is the poster boy for the walking dead or is that "living challeneged" after all .
I haven't got very many more shots of the LO Bays RR next time I'm up there ( will likely make one more run up in the fall ) I'll try to nab a few more shots.
Allan-Yes that part of Ontario is my personal favourite and having those beautifully maintained ships there is an added bonus.I will happily arrange trips for any of you who come over so long as I get to tag along with you.
Fergie-New Toy comming of that particular beauty
Rob
<Nickel Plate #170 at MoT, Kirkwood, MO - personal foto>
A smile to begin the week!
When told about the election of a Jewish mayor in Dublin, Ireland, Yogi responded, "Only in America!"
<A Yogi-ism!>
What's to say - it's MONDAY! Fill up the coffee mug - check out our Menu Board 'n sample a pastry or three . . .
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Sunday - July 27th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 61 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 8:36 PM <10:36 ADT>: Assuming the sailorman is ashore - but hard to tell with that hit ‘n run Post of this. Nary a mention of any of our efforts or comments! <geesh> No <tweeting> though, as it was Sunday. <geesh> Thanx for thinking of us, though . . .
Page 61 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:38 PM: Nah, no congrats in order for finally coming up with an answer to Wolfman's attempt at getting into the Quiz business. Nah - just a WAG on my part - but his hints were . . . helpful!
Fence posts - brings back, arrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhh - memories! <groan> No chain links permitted in this sub-division of ours, in fact the only fences "authorized" are those associated with in-ground pools. Very restrictive indentures and in this state, they carry the "weight" of statute. No kidding. Anyway, is the fence idea something you came up to keep "them" out - or you "in"
We too had a rip-roaring bunch o' storms come thru late last nite <Sunday> into the wee hours of this morning. Still "booming" out there now ‘n then - doesn't look good for Juneau's 1st walk of the day . . . <groan> "They" are talking ‘bout us reaching 100 (F) tomorrow . . . <yikes> Here we go into summer's oppressiveness in mid-continent USA. <phew>
Certainly appreciate the < I3 > Post from our Resident Ontario Connection - should be viewed as a fine example of what we try to achieve ‘round here. Keep the hit ‘n run <crap> for those "other" sites that seem to thrive on ‘em, eh Youbetcha!
Thanx for dropping off your message!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Nice day here today - temperatures in the 50s and supposed to be in the 80s later with maybe some rain later this week. Gas is at $4.09 this a.m.
Pete was in with lots of comments and information. I liked the set of pictures you posted - many tracks with overhead wire plus steam. Also enjoyed the snow pictures and the shot of the canal. See below for D&RG information.
Rob - All-sports radio - no comment. However, I will say that I discovered yrs ago when forced to be on the DL after my knee surgery why people work. It's because daytime TV and radio are so bad. The Bills have been going to move for years, but don't hold your breath.
Fergie - Your SOU locomotive was photographed at Ivy City (just north of Washington, DC). The PRR catenary in the background is a dead giveaway.
Eric - I was fortunate to ride domes a fair amount. A few that come to mind are the N&W's Pocahontas, the southern Crescent (ex Wabash car), South Wind (NP dome sleeper), and a full dome on the New River train when it was behind steam. Most interesting ride was on the Lake shore coming out of Chicago (yes, Boris they had a dome) at night. Lots of activity for sure with sometimes 5-6 trains in sight. The CR boys knew how to railroad and dispatch as well as we had several running meets - something to see from above for sure - we never slowed down a bit.
Allan - Good to hear from you sir.
Nick - Tracing the ever-elusive dead short. As the old ad used to say in Model Trains back in the 50s, "Relaxen und watch das trains roll!" IMHO, Keith will outlive all of us. Always liked the LMS since I became aware of railroads in the UK; probably because of the livery and then reading some of their history. I went to N scale because of lack of space - and never looked back. As OSP would say, probably because the N stuff is so small.
Speaking of which OSP has been providing lots of historical material, comments, and information. That was a nice summary of D&RG with some pretty pictures, too.
Also thanks for PRR material (never grow tired of that). Also good ‘moom pichers at the Theatuh.
K9 Korps is truly mechanized as he rides as frequently as possible. People say he's much better looking than the driver and guess what? They're right! He was part of a pair before we got him. His previous owner had to divest herself of a lot of livestock before she moved which is how we got him. Her learned all commands in plural such as "Dogs out, dogs ride, dogs quiet." We still do things that way even though he's the only one. K9 psychology indeed; they are, of course, way smarter than we are.
Pete's D&RG question led me back to the archives. Train15-115-215 covered every stop from Denver to Durango (446 miles). The road was standard gauge from Denver to Alamosa (246 miles) and narrow gauge the rest of the way. The narrow gauge departed Alamosa at 7:00 a.m. and arrived at Durango at 4:05 p.m. Train461 (mixed) departed Durango at 9:15 a.m. reaching Silverton at 12:40 p.m. - this run was approx 45 miles.
Train 15-115-215 carried a 12 section/1 drawing room sleeper between Denver and Alamosa, and a chair car between Denver and Alamosa.
Narrow gauge service was handled by a dinette-parlor car and coaches between Alamosa and Durango. The mixed ran a coach between Durango and Silverton on Wednesdays.
Train 216-116-16 handled service to Denver. The mixed departed Silverton at 4:00 p.m. and arrived in Durango at 5:00 p.m. The narrow gauge train departed Durango at 1115 a.m. with an 830 p.m. arrival at Alamosa. Standard gauge departed Alamosa at 940 p.m. with a 715 a.m. arrival in Denver.
Train 216-116-16 carried similar equipment on a reverse routing.
Source for this is March, 1950 Official Guide.
Work safe
The Gang of Regulars <GoR> of "Our" Place after 39 months of business!
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Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH
TOM Congratulations for posting the 1,200th reply.
Yes the UK in the spring or summer or NZ in their spring or summer it would be a hard choice. I think a quiet afternoon watching a cricket match on a village green would be a perfect way to recover after a night out with Nick.
Sounds like a good show you went to Saturday night, there is nothing like live theatre, we thoroughly enjoyed the musical adaptation of the film Big we saw at Arrow Rock recently. Yes with Eric's full time retirement coming a ‘Position' at the bar might be in order, perhaps ‘Head of Surveillance Cameras and Video Distribution' might fit the bill. Although auditioning for the role of Joseph, to be a slave of that brunette might take priority.
I did not know about that rule in the Handbook, with the Senior Manager I ALWAYS knew where LARS was, in the Penthouse Suite seeing to ‘Admin Duties'.
Are you wishing cottonmouths and gators on the dear old UK, they would not stand an earthly with our football supporters, yes and no mosquitoes ether.
Many thanks for the photo and the link to the Royal Scot. I noticed the headlight but the bell had not been fitted when the photo was taken. The loco really is in tip top condition with the cylinder covers buffers, connecting rods and even the coupling highly polished, not to mention the great condition of the paintwork. No 6100 in her re-built form is due to return to steam later this year.
A photo of how the Royal Scots looked after rebuilding with a taper boiler. This locomotive was the last 'Scot' in BR service, No 6115 Scots Gaurdsman is in the post war LMS black and straw livery. 6115 has just been restored and is due to be running some main line steam tours very soon..
I can still recall seeing 'Royal Scot, for the first time. My father had taken me on Rugby Midland station and we were at the southbound platform end. A train was leaving the island platform as another pulled up on the through line, there was other railfans and they were waving at the train leaving the platform to get a move on so they could see was the engine on the through line was. When the last coach passed there stood No 46100 ‘Royal Scot' with its large nameplate, it brought a cheer from some of the railfans.
Two good films on at the Emporium this week I like a good Western and Lonesome Dove sounds a good tale of the Old West. North West Frontier is a great film, I have seen several times but can always watch again, the true star of the film is the old steam locomotive I think. Then, of course, The Stooges.
I had already written about some British named trains in my reply to Allan when I saw your great new series on the Named Passenger Trains and the Pennsy is a great choice for #1 in the series I think. Looking at the trains it was a surprise to me to see how many named trains there were on the PRR between New York and Washington DC.
Many thanks for the list of the Gang of Regulars as my old mate at work used to say "A fine body of men"
ALLAN Glad you enjoyed the photos. I never rode the Red Rose, but it was a favorite train of mine to see. Hauled by an Edge Hill (Liverpool) Princess Royal pacific in steam days usually, with a headboard and the blanking plate on the corridor connection on the last coach having The Red Rose name and a red rose on it. Looking at a book on the LMR named trains in 1959, I see that the Lancastrian, Midday Scot, Red Rose and the Comet named trains all pasted through Rugby from 6:25PM to 8:00 PM southbound and between 6:19PM and 8:50PM the Shamrock, Emerald Isle Express, Mancunian, Merseyside Express, Ulster Express and Royal Highlander Express passing Northbound. Happy days indeed.
I see Tom and I had the same idea about TUI'S at the cricket grounds in NZ.
NICK Tracing and fixing the short certainly had its rewards with running those great combinations of trains on your layout.
It certainly makes one feel old to realize that Mick Jagger is now an O.A.P.
I though you might like the ‘Terrier on the Isle of Wight. It seems quite a few of the A1Xs had interesting lives.
There certainly is something special about an un-rebuilt WC or BB Pacific.
ERIC Yes I think the tale of your trip on the Can-Am Daylite Flyer is one for a cold winter evening to warm the blood.
Yes I believe that Railbus was built in Germany. The rail busses did not last too long in service, I think they ran OK but I guess the small engine would not be powerful enough for them to pull a trailer car at busy times. I don't know if they could run in multiple.
I will try and take a few more photos of the canal when I am over in England. It was a habit of mine, nearly every Sunday, to walk along the canal and feed the ducks and moorhens the old bread before collecting the Sunday paper from the shop in the village.
Thanks for the photo of the snow in the Arctic Circle.
FERGIE That sure is a fine looking locomotive. Is it a Southern 4-6-2 or 4-6-4. I guess the whistle is on an angle to keep the locomotive's height in gauge
ROB Many thanks for the twenty. It sounds as though you have done a lot of hard work at the weekend. As Tom said, we have had quite a few thunderstorms through here,as well, we had another one this morning at was seems to be the favorite time for them lately 4AM. There was over a dozen roads closed by flooding in the county across the river from us.
Glad you enjoyed the photos.
I think LEON is a bit sweet on one of the H&H gals not sure which one though.
CM3 Thanks for the kind words on the photos. It will be interesting to see, when the West Coast Main Line upgrade is completed, whether steam will still be allowed on the WCML as the high speed train frequency is due to be increased and it may be not possible to find paths for the steam specials especially if there is an increase of freight traffic.
Many Thanks for the information on the D&RG trains from Denver to Durango and Silverton.. I am a bit, I see the mixed train from Silverton to Durango was just scheduled one hour, but the mixed in the opposite direction was scheduled 3 hours 25 minutes, I guess the train to Silverton did all the switching and it was a clear run downhill for the mixed heading for Durango. It must have been a wonderful journey to have done the whole route from Denver to Silverton; luckily some of the Narrow Gauge can be done today behind steam as well..
Well RUTH. a round for the GoRs please.
pete.
If all Mondays were like this one . . . Arrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhh. But, on the bright side, we've had a morning visit from CM3 Shane ‘n a mid-afternoon one from Interim Governor General Pete.
Found this down in the sub-basement archives . . . doesn't "qualify" as an Encore, since it's never been viewed at our reborn-reborn bar . . .
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #12
<A form of this was initially Posted on 24 Oct 2005, Page 145 of the "original" Thread>
Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with Classic Trains. Check out this ad (from The Official Guide of the Railways - 1956)
Look what they're saying about the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited!
"FOUR VISTA-DOMES . . . the view really is terrific on the Northern Pacific!"
"Pride of the Northwest . . . a train second to none!"
"One of the top trains in the country"
"A LOVELY STEWARDESS-NURSE . . . so kind to me and my children"
"Most friendly and courteous employees"
"Comfortable trip - delicious meals. Our compliments to the chef"
"THE TRAVELER'S REST buffet-lounge . . . most unique car we've ever seen . . . captures the flavor and romance of the West"
"WON'T YOU BE MY GUEST?"
Now a friendly Stewardess-Nurse welcomes you aboard the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited. You'll enjoy extra traveling pleasure at no extra cost - in fact, even low Family Fares apply! Heading East or West through the scenic Northwest, you'll see for yourself why passengers call it . . .
One of the world's Extra Fine trainsFor complete information, write G. W. RODINE, Passenger Traffic Manager Northern Pacific Railway, St. Paul 1, Minn.
CHICAGO - TWIN CITIES - SPOKANE - PORTLAND - TACOMA - SEATTLE
Enjoy! Tom
Well good evening one and all and a fine day it has been too,although,to quote one of my favourite songs " Oh lord the storm is threatnin`..."......(would it be too much to hope for that the sheltered accommodation block in Jagger Close might be called Gimme Shelter house.......?...-one can but dream..)
Leon-get yer skates on lad,we want a full round in here for the crew plus all they can drink for the detached duties track gang in the back bar-Having lent young sprocket to the neighbours to keep their child amused I have been able to get almost a full day in the shed-most productive -lifted and relaid a line in the staging yard with isolating fishplates to compensate for the `live` turnout I had installed without realising,wired up the switch motor for same,got the boards back in place for the middle and top stations and pushed the head of steel up to the top station yard throat-the rest of top station is due for relaying with large radius turouts and one or two mods. to the published plan,this is enough to give me a lead track to set back into the top storage yard-another good day
Right-the promised rain has started (and how!!) so on with the motley before it gets electrical
PETE-Nice D.M.U pix mate -cricket is not the best way to get over a night out with me.....the best way is to use your phone call to arrange bail,then sneak home and spend two days in a darkened room denying everything........Terriers:-yes -got some pix of them on the old W.C&P back in the `30`s-will post as soon as I can find them
SHANE-You Cad Sir !!!!-"Noisy when accelerating & smells of kerosene"-thats no Turbotrain,thats my ex wife !!!!!!..... R.E Keith-concur with urban myth that,when the dust settles after the final holocaust the only sounds to be heard will be the scuttle of cockroaches and the familiar smoke stained drawl "zanybody seen my guitar ??"....-Excellent hit on the D.& R.G narrow gauge BTW-one of my many favourites
DAN-Since many of the company wouldn`t know an Austin Cambridge or a Morris Oxford and to tickle your memories of your grandparents,here is something quite similar-not sure if it is a Riley or a Wolseley but -hey looks pretty close to me..!!!
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From the registration plate I would put it as a `68 (H) and poss. South London (KDY)-were quite a few KDY plates around where I grew up..............
ERIC-A visit from Florida eh..that must have made things crowded-I knew you got big storms over there but that is something else................
ROB-See notes elewhere R.E Mick`n`Keef-be delighted to see more of the little train-my kind of railroad,hot news-the last two `F` units on the O.N.R have just been into the N.Bay shops to have the traction motors removed-whether this means the scrap line or preservation as static exhibits unknown.......we can only hope..
TOM-How ya doin mate ??-just take it easy now-I realise this goes against the grain,but trust me here.....Now cricket-don`t get me started-a sport where a match can ( and often does ) take 5 days and ends in a draw....???????-give me rugby any day.........Now,Sir Mick-well at least he isn`t the ugliest one in the band ( a close contest to be sure...)
Nice stuff on the named trains,especially enjoyed the feedback N.P stuff -thanks for sharing,loved that YOGI`ism-is a digression there that I will ignore,-Now-North West Frontier-there is a film to stiffen the spine-dear old Kenneth More,the archetypal Officer of the Empire,Herbert Lom,a man born to play the baddie,Lauren Bacall-a rare beauty...and all set on a train in a land of mystery-who could ask for more !!
Astonished to hear that you cant put up a fence around your own yard-anybody round here who made such a suggestion would be looking at several hours in casualty having shotgun pellets removed and dogbites sewn up
BTW-I think the upper station ( in it`s North American guise) must have a Snake Pit saloon & Chandlery-I`m sure I have an unpainted building like the Maple Leaf tavern that is familiar to all
Now then-Come and sit with me awhile old thing (Leon-more beer here please)-Spotted a note the other day ( to FERGIE I think) about swapping out some crossovers on the Can-Am -would suggest you give this some serious coats of looking at before even contemplating-please excuse the liberty but it`s been on my mind,-Now-you have the Bachmann track with the built in base yes?-removing this stuff (especially with the extra ballast) is gonna be a nightmare-the whole thing locks together-not like my flexi track where you can pull a few pins and bend it `til you can work it loose-seems to me that (if you want to replace with longer crossovers ) you might want to look at replacing each pair of x-overs with something like a #10 or 12 scissors crossing ,and do it by cutting through the whole section each side of the junction,dropping the new section in and either cutting out the chairs so that you can slide the fish plates back and then building up the base to support it or soldering the joints (not my option of choice )-either way -be advised-once you start breaking into the scenery (as this is bound to do) the fractures go off in unexpected directions--Please accept this as well meant advice rather than teaching my granny how to suck eggs ( as they say in these parts )-will be interested to learn how you get on.....
O.K-thats me for tonight-be happy and prosperous
Just beginning to prepare the acknowledgments for the 'morrow when I spotted Mighty Man Nick's comments . . .
Soooooooo, if you're still out there . . . I'll be riiiiiiiiiiiiight back!
Have that bottomless stein of your favorite lager on me! Leon - take care of my Mate!
I see ROB is about,taking care of business--Leon send a large glass of Blue that way if you would be so kind..
Assuming I can get someone to look after Sprocket tomorrow (yes thats me ,Mr Responsible)gonna have a go at opening up the new trackage and see if I can get my Athearn Go-Train all the way up to the top without falling off-the prevailing thinking is:-if I have the engine on the front going up ,it should all slide back down easy on the return-(or so I`m told...)-hopefully the inclusion of 5` radius turnouts should help-if not......well bugg*r it-you can only do so much...............
Good evening Leon. I see that Nick's got the track gangs well liquored up ( likely stirred up as well ) oh well at least it's a cash business I think I'll have a draft of Guiness tonight as a break from my usual poison.
Tom-Hmmm I'll have to think. I would say the reason for the fence is soem of each,we need to keep us in and them out. We can build any kind of fence we like so long as it's on our property. The rest of the yard and indeed all the nieghbours left right and behind all have link so it all fits Very few super picky gated communities up this way there's the odd one but they still have to abide by city bylaw and statute and can't make their own.
Nice almost encore, a good read to be sure,every once ina while it's nice to sink one's eyes into a bit of light reading More weather brewing here tonight as well, the warmth is upon us again hitting hight twenties low 30's C with 80+ % humidity this week.
Shane-Neat info on those train numbers. I had to take a double look at them though the way you printed them with three numbers separated by dashes I thought I was reading the bodily dimentions of H&H
One wonders why talk radio still exists but enough people still listen and call in that I guess the advertisers figure it's worth their bucks.I've been hearing stories of the Bills moving for at least ten years,unless the ownership changes don't think you'll see it.
Pete-Loved the steam shots sir ,as far as Leon's infactuation goes, he's welcome to her or them,keeps them away from the rest of us.It was nice to see the list of the gang again complete with the before and after flags depending on the place(s) or residence for all of us
Nick- Ah yes the ability to send one's offspring off during the sumer even if it is just for a playdate is the thing of sanity for most parents I would sumise.Still sounds like it was a usefull use of your free time as well
I always though that roaches and the stones were the same thing I'm sure that they all will survive a nuclear blast or two or three or well you get the picture
I haven't heard what lays in store for those old F units,maybe they are becomming some sort of mid train robot car as well ( that wouldn't require traction motors either. )Last I was up there were four of them sitting beside the shops coupled together nose to tail,that was three years ago though however.
Sounds like some solid advise for the bossman should he wish to change the size of switches,nice thing about having fisures in the scenic material is that it's nothing a bit of glue and some extra ground foam can't fix.
Well here is the man of the house-How ya doin mate ???-am on my way out to be honest ,have only held on whilst finishing my drink but will hang on for a few minutes and refresh to see if you are still with me -Good to see you mate !!!!!!
Ah yes looks like we have a threesome in tonight,Leon send a resiprical round back at Nick and Tom as well,we might as well be as incoherant as the track gangs.
Nick-I haven't aquired any of the Go sets yet,once you ensure that the wheel sets ar in guage ( was aproblem with the trucks on the first runs ) they normally work quite well,they are tad on teh light weight side though. Have you seen the two packs of Go painted F's that Athearn produced a few years back Lets see a few random shots from my 2005 Northbay shop trip.
couple of the aforementioned F units instorage beside the shop buildings.
Two shots of the shops.
Shot of the sanding towers in front of the shops.
ONR SD's at Northbay you can see the sand towers again.
enjoy
Rob.
Okay . . . time for some directed comments for our Resident Londoner in Wales!
The Bachmann nickel silver EZ-track I purchased is not the kind that "locks" together, rather it has the standard rail joiners . . . the roadbed <cheesy> is attached, 'n yes, I ballasted over all of it. At last count I have:
216 straight sections <9">
26 curves <22" rad>
22 switch tracks <#5>
2 wyes <#5>
4 crossovers <#6>
'n a bunch of fitters - straight 'n curved.
So, that gives you a general idea of what I've ballasted over . . .
The #6 crossover problem was something that I could have avoided - I didn't read the fine print <actually don't recall there being any!> about 'em being wired for DCC only! So, since my layout is wired the old-fashioned way - commonrail wiring with insulated rail joiners, I had to tear apart those #6s to adapt 'em to my needs. While that was a pain in the Patoot - I did it. Also, I wanted to use ONE controller to change the direction of the crossovers, rather than one for each side - so, I spliced the wiring. That worked - but not at all as well as I would've liked. Probably a problem with a voltage drop, or some such thing. At any rate, they do work - but not to my satisfaction. Derailments are minimal, thankfully.
IF I ever decide to take the plunge, I'll surely think about what you offered. Probably going to a longer arrangement - scissors would be quite nice - they would have to match up with the code 100 track I'm using. Also would want to ensure that the switch MoSheens are 1st rate 'n would work in synch, rather than separately. Of course, that could be handled 'on the bench' before installation.
Landscaping is NO problem - nothing to worry about regarding cracking 'n the like - there is no plaster <or similar stuff> - so it can be easily repaired.
Wiring - ahhhhh, now that's a problem. Given the severity of my arthritic hands along with getting beneath that layout for extended periods - well, I'd have to give that some serious contemplation. Ain't a youngster as some of the guys 'round here are! <grin>
Do, appreciate the thoughts, 'n never be concerned regarding my taking what you have to say as offensive . . . unless of course you direct something very personal and/or crude in my direction or that of my bride. Then you'll be the first to know!
So, that's it for the pike . . .
Fences in the subdivision have been a sore spot for conversation during the 18 years I've lived here. As I understand it, subdivision indentures follow a format provided by the state. Once passed, they "live" until changed. Not to sound trite, but changing 'em is rather difficult - not impossible, but oh so difficult requiring a "super majority" of the homeowners to get on board. With a bit over 400 homeowners, we're scratching just to get a quorum for the annual meetings. Getting a "super majority" for something like Indenture changes - welllllllll, I wouldn't hold my breath. That's just the way it is.
As stated, in this state, the Indentures carry the weight of statute. Violations can 'n sometimes do result in liens being placed on property - with settlement at time of closing when the home is sold. Yeah, that's the way it is.
There are many, many places to reside that are NOT located within subdivisions that have active Boards with enforcement of Indentures. We happen to be in one that does. Oh well . . . there are more important things to worry about, but it does tick me off every now 'n then . . . <grin>
Now, all of the aforementioned has nothing to do with Classic Trains - so, I'll <tweet> myself for being 'n spring for the drinks for the remainder of the evening - food too!
Appears your 2nd Post was right on top of mine . . . so, hope you got this one as well.
Always appreciate having you aboard - too bad we have so many miles 'n time zones as impediments to good conversation! <grin>
Catch ya when the wind shifts . . .
Ahhhhhh, yes - just caught Rob 'n Nick's acknowledgment! LIVE at the bar - can't beat that, eh
Well-I do believe we have all caught up with each other-TOM-would be delighted to come and get stuck in,relaying track ,scaring local do-gooders ,cooking for the haus or just being pointed in the right direction -Now-with the basement being full ,we must look to the garden for our next project............perhaps some 16mm live steam...........
Nick-Your welcome,now turn your head and cough. If my grey matter is firing on all cylinders,theer might be a retro kit out there ( liley consist of a new set of trucks )They will be based on NMRA standards though so the Hornby switches may still cause the odd bit of trouble.
Right looks like another Guiness is upcomming for me thanks to the bosse's generosity tonight It's nice to have an almost live exchange this evening between the three of us,feels like the heady days of the MK 1 thread
Tom-Wow talk about an uphill battle with those community meetings. Oh well as long as your happy with the area it's a good thing,and judging by the fact you've been there 18 years would tell me that you are. a round on me niow theer Leon old chum
Yo Nick!
Yeah, just what I need - a garden railway! <yikes> Wellllll, since the deer <4 legged variety> have pretty much destroyed <aka: eaten> most gardens 'round these parts - I suppose a "live steamer" of three might be a fun thing to run - bet that would make 'em scamper.
At this late hour for you - appreciate your staying with me . . . I'll letchago, with perhaps a "BK splash" to help you along . . .
'til later . . .
Yo Rob!
Nice spate o' fotos for the crew . . . also caught your efforts over on the "dead thread" . . . thanx!
Liking where we are is a matter for additional conversation - but not tonite 'n not here. Sometimes - especially when one is where I am on life's continuum <meaning: OLD> moving is simply out of the question - not to mention horribly expensive. Ain't easy to replace the bucks when one is not working . . . <oooooooooh>
Take it easy 'n have a refill for that mug on me!
TOM-Apologies mate-went in the wrong direction there-had assumed it was a matter of frog angles rather than wiring-knowing the nature of the layout I wouldn`t want to set back a long train through low number turnouts if I didn`t have to.....but-hey if it`s working-no worries-Right I am off to bed now-I trust I will offend no-one by standing a round at this late hour ??-a last little drop of the special rum to clear our heads for the journey home...
take care chaps
Nighty-night
siberianmo wrote: Yo Rob!Nice spate o' fotos for the crew . . . also caught your efforts over on the "dead thread" . . . thanx! Liking where we are is a matter for additional conversation - but not tonite 'n not here. Sometimes - especially when one is where I am on life's continuum <meaning: OLD> moving is simply out of the question - not to mention horribly expensive. Ain't easy to replace the bucks when one is not working . . . <oooooooooh>Take it easy 'n have a refill for that mug on me! Tom
Hey you could always be like Eric and start up another job and then re-retireMaybe Fergie will take you on as balalst crew
I can't imagine that they would allow you the live steam RR as well. It would offend misses Jones down the street. Anyway thanks for the rounds,think I'll switch to the BK blast now as well.
Night guys
Pretty much like olde tymes when we used to "do" those B'day Bashes . . . not as hectic, but enjoyed the gab . . .
Perhaps we can do this again sooner rather than later - do you guys come here often <grin>
Later
Hi Tom and all,
The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon!
Tom, Nick and Rob. Boy, has the place been HOT just now with the three of you in at the same time, a very lively lot of interesting chatter during the time that I was in posting!
Nick. Sounds as if you had a great time running your train empire the other day, looks as if the changes to your trackwork worked to a T! I always say I`m "operating" the trains not "playing", although my wife always states the latter! Very memorable photo of the Riley, the grill looks a wee bit different to the Wolsley one, had an Austin Cambridge in the early 70`s over here, it was a very reliable car.
Eric.Nice Arctic Circle pic with all the snow, Tom will love that one! One thing about retirement, I really do`nt know how I ever found the time to go to WORK!
Fergie. Nice looking Pacific steam loco, your loco roster on the MESS RR is growing very steadily.
Rob. Sounds as if you had a hard time putting those fence posts in, did you use a dry mix cement or use a mixer? Some fine pix of your Northbay Shop trip.
CM3. Good to see you in. Very interesting write up on the D&RG RR passenger train services`.
Pete. Interesting write up on all those named express trains` that passed through Rugby in the late 50`s. Tui is always on tap at the majority of NZ cricket matches`, Tom can sample the Tui whilst we are watching the match. Lovely pic of 6115 Scot`s Guardsman.
Tom. Thanks for that link to the Royal Scot`s 1933 US tour. Some good flicks for the weekend, N W Frontier brought back some fond memories of my old man, he was stationed in Peshawar, N W India (now Pakistan), for seven years in the 1920`s, the mountain artillery regiment he was in was part of the defence force for the Khyber Pass. Great Pt #7 of the PRR named passenger trains` , such a large number for just the one RR, and also the Passenger Train Nostalgia #12 on the NP RR. A good write up on your Bachmann track trials and tribulations, I`ve found that in N scale Peco or Atlas track suits real fine and found Peco switches best due to their reliability and durability. Bit of a bummer not being able to fence your own property, it`s very rare to find places over here with a no fence covenant. Tui is always on tap at most NZ cricket venues, all you will have to do is work up a good thirst, never mind the cricket!
See ya, Allan
Good evening Captain Tom and all present!
Hello Leon! The last minute? Okay, no, I'll have my sugar cured ham sandwich on rye, please. A cold Tui would be perfect!
I think this place was kind of busy for a while this evening. Not so now, I wonder why?
Tom – Good looking brunettes? Why am I not surprised? How come I missed that show? That isn’t fair.The Royal Scot loco, if I ever saw a polished locomotive that’s the one! Wow. I am sure that headlight was there because of the US tour. Not McKinley? That is okay, it looked majestic anyway! You are so right about 20 and 40 ft seas! That is why I prefer the solid ground! Last night I found out that there is one train ride not too far from here where it is possible to ride a dome car, Grand Canyon Railway! It was a program on the Travel Channel yesterday about Train Rides to and in National Parks and Grand Canyon Railway has a dome car in their train. But it is a short ride, 60 miles, so it is not the same thing.Time for another visit to the Emporium, to see the movies of this week! Lonesome Dove and the North West Frontier. PRR’s named trains, quite a list! Spirit of St Louis, nice drumhead and an interesting route. Nice list of regulars! International, indeed.The Vista-Dome North Coast Limited, that's the train I missed. Fergie – I can understand that you fell in love with #1394! A very good looking locomotive!Rob – Another cake when I finally retire? Hmm, I don’t know. It’s possible, but I don’t know.Ontario Northland Railway, it's kind of an interesting railroad. I have seen several of their locomotives in your photos and if I recall right they also have some passenger service, is that correct? I guess I should do some research. CM3 – Lucky you, that rode all those trains with dome cars! The only thing better would be to ride a private car, which I actually did to some extent in Canada 1993. That was something else! Very nice! Pete – I think they should have kept that headlight on Royal Scot. I am sorry, but I can’t get used to locomotives without headlights! You are right about the trip on the Can-Am Daylite Flyer! For a cold day!
Do you have any trip planned to England? Nick – I am 99% sure your photo shows a Riley 4/68 from around 1960. The visit from Florida wasn’t bad at all. Only one person that is spending a week here in the Valley. I don’t think Florida has had any big storms recently. Allan – The reason I posted that snowy picture from the Arctic Circle was to keep Tom happy! So I'll do the same thing again today. More snow.
About finding time to go to work, I’ve never been this short on time in my life as I am now. It is unbelievable. A day is nothing. Scary, very scary. I hope I will be able to send some more heat to you later this week, they have promised it is going to warm up again. Finally one more snowy one (again).North of the Arctic Circle. Eric
It's that day after Monday again . . . so, best I can offer is fresh coffee ‘n pastries along with some fine selections for breakfast from our Menu Board!
Early rains ‘n cloud cover kept the temps down yesterday, but the humidity is so high one could cut it with a knife . . . today we're expecting near 100 (F). <phew> Petrol prices at $3.77 <rounded> up at Collusion Corner ‘n expected to continue dropping. We'll not see anything below three bucks for a long, long time - if ever. Halcyon days <daze> have ended . . .
VERY BRIEF Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Monday- July 28th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 61 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 10:04 AM: Thanx for mentioning the PRRPost . . . there's a couple of hours worth of effort in that one. <phew> You realize that by doing the research for Pete, you've freed up time for us to head directly to the TrainWreck Saloon in lieu of the library! <geesh> Keith died about 3 decades ago - but simply didn't recognize it. <grin> Always appreciate the "dog talk"!
Page 61 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:42 PM: Glad you enjoyed the PRR spread . . . wasn't really a new one, a form of it was dropped off at "Our" Place II. Recovering from a night or two out with Nick wouldn't be at a sporting event - unless it was an indoor one - but I digress! <grin> Some interesting thoughts you propose for Eric's future at the bar! Hmmmmm. Yes, things in the PHS aren't quite the same these days <daze> with Lars not about the decks on a regular basis. <sad> Excellent Royal Scot info ‘n foto! ROUND, good cheer ‘n humor, as always!
Page 61 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:19 PM ‘n 7:53 PM <1:19 AM ‘n 1:53 AM Tuesday GMT>: Any sporting event lasting up to 3 days is far too much for Moi! <yikes> I'm too old for the sport that I'd prefer to last that long <grin> You'll love this - <drumroll> AND we cannot <repeat: cannot> construct any outbuildings <aka: sheds> on our property - zero, zip, zilch! One learns to adapt or sell ‘n move on. Most interesting automobile foto - I see GM in the windshield arrangement - American Motors in the body design ‘n Ford & Chevy in the paint scheme. Grillwork is most distinctive - BMW/Edsel perhaps ‘n those mirrors require loooooooong arms to set! <grin> A ROUND along with a Great Post, began a 3-way conversation!
Page 61 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 7:57 PM: When it comes to law ‘n "regs," Fed trumps State - State trumps County - County trumps City ‘n City trumps everything else. Must say that this area is very well taken care of, with overwhelming majority of homeowners taking good care of their property. Open spaces makes for more eye appealing nature of it all, in my OH-PIN-YUN . . . I've lived in places where there was Heinz 57 fencing ‘n it surely wasn't eye candy. <yikes> Another <I3> Post from Ontario!
Page 61 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:59 PM <1:59 AM Tuesday GMT>: 3-way
Page 61 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:05 PM: Excellent fotos of the ONR ‘n 3-way
Page 61 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:23 PM ‘n 8:33 PM <2:23 AM ‘n 2:33 AM Tuesday GMT>: 3-way
Page 61 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:35 PM: 3-way
Page 62 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:43 PM <2:43 AM Tuesday GMT>: 3-way
Page 62 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:50 PM: 3-way
Page 62 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:58 PM <4:58 PM Tuesday NZ time>: The Khyber Pass ‘n the Brit Army - that's a sure-fire sign of back in the day, eh Seven year tour of duty - now that's a long time. But he must've been "off" just a bit in order to help make YOU! <grin> Tui vs Cricket - I'll stay at the Pub, whilst you two go to the match. Surely it will be on the tube . . . <grin> Good tips on track manufacturers along with an <I3> Post ‘n a ROUND!
Tuesday - July 29th:
Page 62 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:24 AM <11:24 PM Monday, Sandbox time>: Am familiar with the dome car on the GCR . . . in fact, we "almost" booked that trip last year when it looked as if we'd be out your way in winter . . . Glad you liked the Pennsy Post! Wonderful wintertime foto ‘n <I3> Post!
Morning Ruth. In for a quick stopa dn my usual number three and a BK splash. Gotta get last night rounds out of my head Sun's alrady beating down today and the temp and humidity is already on the rise <groan>Looks like our gas prices are still falling ( not fast enough ) $1.18 a litre the last three days.
Eric-Great photo from above the circle I'll concentrate on that tioday,perhaps thinking cool will make it feel cool. I know Ruth I need to put a cold facecloth on my forehead.
Anyway yes indeed the ONR has daily passenger service from Toronto to North Bay and then they run passenger service from North Bay to Cocheran and points north from there. Ending at Moosanee / Moose Factory the latter by ferry ( people only ) more of a glorified rowboat really.Theer are no roads beyond a certain point so the Polar Bear express and the LIttle Bear are essential services.
Allan-Glad you liked the photo's. it is neat country up there.The Kyber pass stirs up a whole pile of unpleasant bits of history <yikes>Then and now. I imagine it was an artilleryman's dream though from the tactical side of things.
We used the fast drying pole cement for the wholes,everything has to be 4' in ground ( frost line ) otherwise up she comes with the first heavy frost's of the season.
Tom-It twas a neat evening last night,with the three of us decending on the place at the same time,hopfully it happens again . I agree with you Keith did die decades ago,I don't think he's all that worried about it though.
It's good that the neighbours all maintain their properties,otherwise a situation like that would be unbearable,though I'm sure those that let it slide are quickly corrected.
Lets see a couple more snaps then I'm off to work. I'll leave a bit extra with Ruth for a midday round.
Couple more shots of the yard trackage beside the Northbay shops.
The CPR's Northbay Station,now a flea market mall,but beautifully restored.
A rare "opening" from our Manager as Rob made it "in" before trudging off to the "pit" <aka: work> - oh, the things we must do for money. <groan> Such is life, Mate - one day you will be retired ‘n MISS all of these busy times . . . just wait, you'll find out! <grin>
Brought back from the sub-basement archives room - again, doesn't qualify as an Encore, since this hasn't been seen at our reborn-reborn bar . . .
Now Arriving on Track #1
Six Pack Special Number Seven
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
<Initially Posted on 04 Dec 2007, Page 149 "Our" Place II>
Canadian Pacific (diesel)
Travel Canadian Pacific (streamline)
Travel Canadian Pacific (steam)
The Canadian
Banff in the Canadian Rockies
Canadian Pacific Across Canada
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. We dodged some really heavy weather last evening - went just to the south of us. K9 Korps was grateful for that, but every dog in the neighborhood was active until about 3:00 this a.m. Juneau would fit right in with the rest of the crowd over here.
Sorry I am running late today, but work has to get done. So far I have managed to kill two of the three problems that were on the desk this a.m. The third one is going to kill itself, IOW give them enough rope, they'll hang themselves.
Certainly a disgusting performance by the Bostons last night. I hate it when the other team puts crooked numbers on the scoreboard. Not only that Tampa and NY both lost.
Let's see what's happening today.
Pete was in with comments and information and pictures - taper boiler looks good. Back in the day the stretch of P Company between NY and DC was considered to be the busiest piece of railroad in the United States. You've got to remember that they ran a lot of freight on that line as well as passenger traffic. I remember being along the PRR in NJ back in the late 50's - my, my! BTW, SOU locomotive was a 4-6-2.
Eric - Private car is nice for certain. I was lucky enough to ride in the observation car on N&W 611s first trip west from Bluefield - I'll find those pictures for the next Rendezvous.
Nick - It sounds as though you have been busy. Thanks for the kind words (I think). That is a great car - a friend of ours had a Morris Minor (No Boris, he did not sing backup for the Mills Brothers). The one in your picture sort of favors the Weasley's car in Harry Potter (lol).
Allan - Khyber Pass! Artillery folks in our family were in the Army of the Potomac. Now we also had some (on my mom's side) who chased Rommel around the desert - he did antitank work.
Rob - Just remember as the bard of the north said, "Good fences make good neighbors."
OSP - Seemed like old times with a lot of folks in. Nice to see the participants roster. I enjoyed the NP offering. Your remarks re wiring and ballast are well-taken. As a friend of mine once said, "You know, there's a lot to be said for low tech." The idea of a garden railway in your neighborhood might not be a bad one - how about a railroad gun for the deer. Incidentally, I am sure you'll find enough additional material at the library to keep y'all busy. Also, many thanks for the CP ads - I really enjoy looking at that sort of stylized graphic work.
For the record - The narrow gauge train from Silverton to Durango left Silverton at 140 p.m. and arrived in Durango at 5:00 p.m. - good catch, Pete!
Well, back to it.
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