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Posted by nickinwestwales on Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:05 AM

Right,back again-and onwards to Whitland,this is ,as noted,the junction for the branch to Pembroke Dock (via Tenby,Manorbier and others ) In former days much livestock and milk traffic was dispatched from here and the stn. featured an extensive layout requiring two signal boxes-sadly this has gone the way of all good things..........

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Well the plan was to photograph the old signals-so:-Here is the down bay platform starter-looking a bit odd without the finial on the top,but still there...to the right is the main down starter with route indicator board above (more later) and between them the hut housing the switch levers for the yard,on the extreme left is the edge of the single-line token cabin for the branch-between them,the last remnants of the west signal box

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Slewing round from the previous shot,here is a better view of the d/m/starter,also bottom right the ground signal controlling wrong-line working through the crossover.     Somewhere under the trees at rear is the old up side yard,which served an extensive cattle market

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Snoozing in the remnants of the down yard,here is a Plasser & Theurer ballast tamper-the first suprise of the afternoon

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At the east end of the stn-the crossing gates are down,the east box is looking increasingly tatty-formerly a line ran behind the box into the down yard-formerly an extensive yard serverd the old creamery-out by the cross-over

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And the next suprise of the day-a train !!!!!!!! -the 15.44 Milford Haven/Manchester Picadilly

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Here she is ,easing across the crossing-the building site in the background is the creamery

O.K-Thats the first 6 pack-back with more this p.m-galley duties call-enjoy your day of rest one and all-hope the waters are dropping for those of you near the big river

Chef [C=:-)]

 
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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:13 PM

"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs  

<but if you wish - go ahead 'n drop off your Posts through the mail slots!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

 

G'day Gents!

I see Nick has been by with a spate o' six fotos recently taken for our enjoyment! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow] Signals are intriquing things 'n those from back in the day even moreso! Many thanx, Mate . . . Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

. . . June 22nd thru 28th: Betrayal - The Story of the USS Pueblo <2006> from the History Channel - and - ENCORE Presentation of The Patriot <2000> Starring: Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger, Joely Richardson, Jason Isaacs & Chris Cooper. SHORT - The Three Stooges: Shivering Sherlocks <1947>.

<Note: The Patriot first shown on Sunday July 2nd thru 8th, 2007>

The Story of the USS Pueblo <2006>

PLOT SUMMARY:

Betrayal: The Story of the USS Pueblo DVD

On January 23, 1968, while traveling in international waters off the coast of North Korea, the USS Pueblo a navy spy ship, was attacked by four North Korean gunboats. After a short battle the Pueblo, its crew, and its top-secret cargo of manuals, documents and equipment were captured.

The event set off a storm of outrage in the United States and marked the beginning of an 11-month ordeal for Commander Lloyd "Pete" Bucher and his crew, who were used as pawns in a game of propaganda by their captors. HISTORY UNDERCOVER® interviewed crewmembers about how they kept their morale up and stymied the Koreans during their captivity, and Bucher talks about the disheartening welcome he received when he was finally released. In addition, new documents reveal the extent of the damage to U.S. security that the capture of the Pueblo represented--a breach so severe that it could have turned the tide in a potential conflict between the United States and the Soviet Union.

BETRAYAL: THE STORY OF THE USS PUEBLO is the complete story of one of the most damaging events of the Cold War.

 

<from: The History Channel>

The Patriot <2000>

PLOT SUMMARY:

The emotionally charged adventure The Patriot tells the story of Benjamin Martin (Mel Gibson), a reluctant hero who is swept into the American Revolution when the war reaches his farm and the British endanger what he holds most dear. He takes up arms alongside his idealistic patriot son, Gabriel, and leads a rebel American Militia into battle against a relentless and overwhelming Redcoat army. In the process, he discovers that the only way to protect his family is to fight for a young nation's liberty. But his dark past haunts him. In 1763, the lengthy French and Indian War ended. England controlled Canada and all the territory between the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River. In many ways, the men who lived on and fought for this land had stronger ties to it and to each other than to Britain. The hardy settlers formed Great Britain's 13 colonies in the New World. After years of warfare, they reclaim their ordinary lives in the burgeoning cities and countryside.

Martin is one of these men. Once a ferocious warrior, he's made a hero by his comrades, but leaves his brutality behind him and returns to his home in South Carolina. He marries a fine woman who bears him seven children and under her influence, he trades his violent past for a peaceful future on his sprawling plantation.

The cost of Pas Britannia is high and the young colonies are not willing to pay the price. A series of taxes are demanded: the Currency, Sugar, Stamp and Quartering Acts come in rapid succession; the draconian "Intolerable Acts" follow. The colonists strenuously object to the notion of "taxation without representation" and the threat to their rights of self-government. The Boston Harbor becomes a vat of tea. Another conflict, this time with England, is inevitable.

Martin is not so sure. While the British yoke bristles, he is not anxious to return to battle. He has different goals now. His wife has died in childbirth, leaving him the sole caretaker of his brood of children. Tragedy, responsibility and the sins of his past have transformed him. A somber, restrained man, his facade belies a troubled soul. The horrors of combat haunt him still. His savage acts in the previous war gnaw at his conscience.

Eldest son Gabriel has no such doubts. The radical speeches, pamphlets and newletters that begin in the city and pews and traverse the colonies make an impression on the young man. War is coming and the cause, the new and independent country, is just. In defiance of his father, he joins the fight and inadvertently brings it to his family's doorstep.

The film, shot on locations in South Carolina, near the historic Revolutionary War battle sites that would have so impacted the life of Benjamin Martin and his family.  

<from: rottentomatoes.com>

SHORT: The Three Stooges - Shivering Sherlocks (1947)

PLOT SUMMARY:

Vagrants Moe, Larry & Shemp are suspected in an armored car robbery. Gladys Harmon vouches for the Stooges' claim that they work at her Elite Cafe diner, and then gives them jobs at same. Gladys receives an offer on her family's old estate, and believing that she might be gypped, the Stooges accompany her to "look the joint over." Hiding out at the old mansion are the real armored car robbers, and Gladys and the Stooges are soon on the run from the crooks and their knife-wielding henchman Angel.

<from: threestooges.net>

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Enjoy the weekend! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom
Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Sunday, June 22, 2008 6:41 PM

Well,good evening all-the family are all a-bed and my time is again my own-Am gonna grab a couple of cold ones to keep me going and throw up some more pix before I settle down to the weekends posts (2 pages of top-drawer stuff B.T.W Thumbs Up [tup])

O.K-Still at Whitland and a look at operations on the branch this time...N.B-rule of 6 will be regarded as guideline only here,for reasons of continuity Whistling [:-^]

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Having been pleasantly suprised by the appearance of the train in the previous `set` (and a rather elegant livery it was wearing) I checked the timetable and discovered that one was due in from the branch a few minutes later-the 16.10 Pembroke Dock/Swansea,on my way down to the end of the `up` platform to get shots of the junction in use,I passed the last visible remnant of the stock yard sidings-included here purely for atmosphere......

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Here she comes-N.B-semaphore signals roughly next to the train (above speed limit sign)-the arm nearest the train (access to bay & yard ) is horizontal the other (access to main ) is dropped-please excuse the `wee speck on the horizon` aspect but I have yet to master the zoom function  Blush [:I]

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Here she is at near walking pace coming onto the crossing-signal (level with rear of train ) not yet restored as train is not yet in line of sight of the `box

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And crossing from the `down` to `up` main

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And drawing to a halt-the livery is actually slightly brighter than it appears here-shooting a little too close to the light I fear...

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As something of a contrast,here is one from my previous mid-winter visit-this is the 17.12 down Carmarthen/Pembroke Dock-a slightly complex working-as far as I can tell,it starts as a 3 car set at Swansea,bound for Milford,drops off this car at Carm. which lays over for an hour and connects with a Manchester/Carm. service to provide onward transport to P/Dock.....I think..N.B-the grey apparatus at top centre is the up line `starter` colour light signal

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Another from the same outing-the purpose here is to demonstrate the effectiveness of the signalling system-the green `clear road` light is clearly visible ,as is the `diverge from main` route indicator-and yes it was every bit as cold as it looked,thank you very much !!! 

Right-thats six & a bit-back soon with more

Chef [C=:-)] 

 
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:21 PM

O.K-Hot on the heels of the 16.10 `up` we have the 16.15 `down`-suprisingly busy for a rural line on the edge of the empire..........Is perhaps worth noting,it would seem that currently P/Dock trains run to Swansea & terminate,M/Haven trains run to Swansea & then onward to Manchester Piccadilly via Newport,Craven Arms,Shrewsbury & Crewe,Fishguard Harbour Europort services (2 per day) run through to Cardiff--All except F/G boat trains connect with the hourly First Great Western 125 service between Swansea & Paddington...........

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The barriers are coming down again-note,one at a time to allow an escape route for incautious motorists..a better view of the distinctly non-G.W east box

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A 3-car set this time,again in F.G.W colours....Seems to be quite a lot of this new stock appearing on our little local line just lately...........

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And at rest-this one gives an idea of how the line divides-the branch goes left around the base of Pengawse hill in the background and follows the coast,the main goes right,inland,and crosses the heads of the Cleddau before dividing at Clarbeston Road where one branch goes left (S) to H/West & Milford and the other right ( N ) to Fishguard......the road goes straight over the top.....

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And from the other end of the footbridge...another view -is quite depressing to see how little is left of this station-when we first moved out this way both the `up` side yards (milk & cattle ) and the `down` yard (general) were still in place and useable,if not in use,both `boxes were still around and the whole complex was semaphore signalled-Is a cause of some regret that I never got off my bony *ss and got out with the camera -although in those days all I had was a 110 point & press.......Hmmmmmmmm

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Some close-up detail of a ground signal:-Note-pulley & cable,to activate-couterbalance weights-to return to `off` (stop) position-lamp (with oil reservoir) behind disc-circuit box,linked to cabin.as fail-safe

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And to finish off,a couple of `long shots` of the general area...

Thanks for staying with me-hope you have enjoyed this whirlwind tour of the outer reaches of the good old Great Western-I certainly did...

By a quirk of fate ,both PETE & ALLAN mentioned Neyland-there hasnt been a train there since I was a lad,-the old route is now a (very pleasant ) cycle track...however,we were down in Milford yesterday,checking out the Seafair celebrations and knowing the guvnor`s weakness for things nautical,I took some shots of the docks & marina down there -will put up as soon as possible-Were some lovely looking tall ships,a few gin palaces and a huge variety of everyday pleasure boats where once was packed with trawlers-how the world changes-connection is that Neyland stn is now a similar marina -and only about a mile up the haven-tomorrow we have the vintage car rally down at the slip at Black Tar so expect another batch of silly-season not-trains-but-interesting pix to follow ROBS magnificent air show display--I feel that as we have our own quiet place here we can afford to set our own agenda and classic is as classic does...........(what ??)

Anyway-a change is as good as a rest--which is what I need I fear

Take care chaps-gonna go make notes for reponses now-will post tomorrow,sleep well

Chef [C=:-)]   

 
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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 23, 2008 6:49 AM

<KCS FP9A at KCity Union Station - personal foto>

A smile to begin the week!

Asked "What cap size do you want?" Yogi replied, "I don't know. I'm not in shape yet."

<A Yogi-ism!>

 

G'day Gents!

Awright, up ‘n at ‘em - it's Monday! Fill up the mug, check out the pastries ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast to make yourself ready for the day . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

A link worth the time!

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/06/22/bc-wood-trestles-reopening.html

 

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Comments from the Proprietor:

Planned absences: I will be away from the bar between mid-day Wednesday 'til Friday morning. Pete will be missing as well - beginning earlier on Wednesday. So, the time is right for those of you who support this place to step-up! Asking nothing more than to provide ONE Post duing daylite and if possible - do so with some "space" between 'em!

Especially "talking" to anyone "peeking" in but NOT Posting . . . what's the point of THAT Question [?] C'mon - you PP <periphery guyz> can surely help out! Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanx! Bow [bow]

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Keeping track!

216 fotos from my 2008 Canada Rail Odyssey . . . the end!

188 fotos from Rendezvous III

. . . more to follow!

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Sunday - June 22nd <all times Central daylite>:

Page 44 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 10:05 AM <4:05 PM Sunday GMT>: Our Resident Londoner in Wales kept his word ‘n reappeared on his day off with a spate of fine fotos for the crew! Always enjoy looking at signals, especially those from back in the day . . . much to gawk at in those shots, especially in the periphery areas. Thanx for pointing out so many of the details ‘n history for us! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Good to see the passenger units, but sad to see so few waiting on the platforms . . . perhaps I just "missed" the departure of the other train, eh Question [?] <grin> Always like viewing the DMUs . . . reminds me of the RDCs I used to really LUV traveling aboard in BahStun . . . oh the memories. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanx for the visit, Mate! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 44 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:41 PM ‘n 8:21 PM <1:41 AM ‘n 2:21 AM Monday GMT>: Back with a two-fer loaded with fotos for the gang! As always, sme mighty fine descriptions to help we "foreigners" along the right-of-way! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

Was able to brighten up those dark ones a wee bit - all kinds of things to view! Yeah!! [yeah] My guess is those fotos will bring pangs of "homesickness" to our Resident Kiwi ‘n of course Wolfman. Thumbs Up [tup] Not so much that they were from the area, but moreso from those Isles that produce such great railway experiences ‘n scenes! Yeah!! [yeah]

And yes, the Rule of Six is a guideline - as with the spates of stuff I've been putting forth, there are times when an extra or two gets included in order to maintain the "set" or as you put it, "continuity." Well done, Sir! Thumbs Up [tup]

Of course spates of ships, boats ‘n motor cars are welcome ‘round here - just not particularly interested in being bombarded with ‘em - ya know, a run here ‘n there with some trains thrown in s'il vous plait! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

3-car set crossing the street almost looks model-like! Wow!! [wow]

Good detail brought out on the ground apparatus! Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for making Sunday an event! The idea of being closed is simply to give our GoR a break for the support given throughout the week - but of course visits are most welcome! <grin> Boris ‘n the critters enjoyed the company . . . Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

A Five-Thumbs Up [tup] Salute to our own Mighty Man, Nick for above 'n beyond efforts in support of "Our" Place! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup] Yeah!! [yeah] Wow!! [wow]

Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, June 23, 2008 9:35 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Clear this a.m. with temps in the in the low 50s.  we dodged several rounds of severe weather yesterday afternoon.

DL was by for a quick stop. 

Pete - The 50 class in your picture look like a larger locomotive that got left out in the rain.  I can see just from the look that they would have developed quite a following.  What kind of prime mover did they use for power?

The "Blue Goose" was a unique locomotive of the ATSF roster.  It was two-tone blue in color.  There are several pictures of it in action in The Trains We Rode.

Your lightning anecdote explains why we don't blast during thunderstorms (lol)

I especially enjoyed the picture of 71000, both in the shop and on the road.  It is nice to see shop photos when they are doing restoration work not cutting something up.

Nick - My compliments for a fine series of pictures of track layouts, signals, etc.  I am a detail hound for this sort of stuff - interesting to see the crossover move used as well.  Amtrak 50 does a similar move here to keep passengers from having to climb over some very high rail, wade through ballast, etc.  The crossover is just as the train comes out of a tunnel.

Eric - The GN Alco in Canada is from the United States version of the Great Northern.  Nice pictures, btw of the C&O 2700 type.  You can look around on many engines and, of course, see components from different manufacturers.  Locomotive Cyclopedias from back then are full of all sorts of information about parts, etc. from various firms. 

Allan - I am pleased to hear that the links worked for you.

OSP provided a lot of material from the ATSF - nice color shot by Jack Delano as well - always have liked that one.

E-mail rec'd and many thanks.  Will maintain my morning slot for sure this week.

Leafs, IMHO, need some "grinders" on their team.  Mayers will be a good fit if they let him play his role.

Gordon Lightfoot?  Excellent!  I have about five tunes I'd like to hear him do if I were there.

Interesting batch of photos as well.  However, I notice that Batman Pete is not paying attention to either the football match on TV or the barmaid (lol)

Nice batch of moom pichers at the Theatuh.  "Patriot" is a bit melodramatic in spots, but many folks don't realize how nasty southern campaign was during the Revolution.  Lots of ‘em probably don't even KNOW there was a southern campaign!

Well, we have not fired up the Groan-O-Meter in a long time so here's one for today

WHO SAYS MEN DON'T REMEMBER ANNIVERSARIES?

A woman awakes during the night to find that her husband was not in their bed. She puts on her robe and goes downstairs to look for him.

She finds him sitting at the kitchen table with a hot cup of coffee in front of him. He appears to be in deep thought, just staring at the wall.  She watches as he wipes a tear from his eye and takes a sip of his coffee. "What's the matter, dear?" she whispers as she steps into the room, "Why are you down here at this time of night?"

The husband looks up from his coffee, "I am just remembering when we first met 20 years ago and started dating. You were only 16. Do you remember back then?" he asks solemnly. The wife is almost reduced to tears herself, just thinking how caring and sensitive her husband is. "Yes, I do" she replies.

The words were not coming easily. "Do you remember when your father caught us in the back seat of my car?" "Yes, I remember," said the wife, lowering herself into a chair beside him.  The husband continues. "Do you remember when he shoved that shotgun in my face and said, "Either you marry my daughter, or I will send you to jail for 20 years?" "I remember that, too" she replies softly.

He wipes another tear from his cheek and says..."I would have gotten out today."

Work safe

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 23, 2008 10:38 AM

G'day Gents! 

A fine bit o' chat from CM3 Shane this AM . . . but NOT a woId about <aboot for Rob> his BoSox dropping two of three to the Red Birds of St. Louis! Nearly lost ‘em all . . . go figger, Cards couldn't hit themselves outta a paper bag against the Royals from KCity, but do a good job against perhaps the best in the AL. <geesh> Interleague <barf>! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Trying to keep at least an hour between Posts, so here's something to begin the week . . . from our sub-basement archives <dust> <mold> <cough> <hack> <sneeze>

 

 

 The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #6

Atlantic Coast Line (ACL)

<A form of this was initially Posted on 21 Sep 2005, Page 114 of the Original Thread>

<source: Classic American Railroads>

 

Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.  

 

Headquarters: Jacksonville, FL

Route mileage in 1950: 5,528

Locomotives in 1963 (all diesel-electric):

Freight: 170

Passenger: 62

Dual mode (freight/passenger): 234

Switchers: 119

Rolling stock in 1963:  Freight cars - 28,847; Passenger cars - 405

 

Principal routes in 1950:

Richmond, VA-Tampa, FL, via Jacksonville and Orlando.

Wilson-Wilmington, NC

Wilmington-Pee Dee (Florence) SC

Winston-Salem, NC-Florence

Florence-Atlanta

Brunswick, GA-Montgomery, AL

Birmingham, AL-Waycross, GA

Albany-Dunnellon, FL

Jacksonville-St. Petersburg, FLA via Gainesville, Leesburg and Trilby

Dupont, GA-Naples, FL

 

Passenger trains of note:

East Coast Champion (New York-Miami)

West Coast Champion (New York-Tampa & St. Petersburg & Sarasota)

Tamiami Champion - Predecessor of East and West Coast Champions

Florida Special (New York-Miami & St. Petersburg)

Miamian (Washington-Miami)

Vacationer (New York-Miami)

Havana Special (New York-Key West, FL)

Palmetto (New York-Savannah & Augusta & Wilmington)

Everglades (New York-Jacksonville)

Gulf Coast Special (New York-Tampa & Ft. Myers & St. Petersburg; formerly Havana Special)

 

Of note: North of Richmond, RF&P and PRR handled passenger trains.

South of Jacksonville, FEC handled trains bound for Miami and Key West.

SAL handled trains headed for Miami south of Auburndale, FL in 1963.

Other carrier's trains destined to Florida, such as the City of Miami - South Wind - Flamingo - Dixie Limited - Dixie Flyer - Seminole and Southland were combined with named ACL trains.

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ACL F7 #531 Champion (credit: Robert West)  

ACL ad "The Champion" Speedy New York - Miami Streamliner (from: www.getcruising.com/rails)

ACL #538 E7A (Original line drawing art by Stan Lytle, enhanced with road colors and other details by Jack Bleiberg - from: www.getcruising.com/rails)

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by DL - UK on Monday, June 23, 2008 12:37 PM

Hello Tom and all in

I'll have a pint of Batham's Mild please.

I've had a chance to review the recent postings - and a few comments spring to mind.(Although just missed today's posts from CM3 and Tom - will have to look later)

Pete - nice pic of a 1970s vintage Class 50 Diesel loco. Reminded me that on Saturday I passed through Derby and 50026 (I think) was parked outside the old Research Centre resplendent in smart large logo livery - not sure why it was there - presumably out on a tour. Also parked up there were a number of Class 31 and 37 locomotives, mostly in Network Rail yellow - which is not very flattering livery!

I did enjoy those old GCR pics - esp Butler Henderson - I think it is now in BR black but your pic shows its pre 1923 livery which I think is much more impressive.

Allan - you mention a stint at Manorbier in south west Wales during your time in the services, I recall the GWR had a railway hotel there - I wonder I fit is still there - Nick may know - was it a purpose built hotel I wonder, or one the GWR acquired. Presumably it was reasonably close to the station if it was owned by the GWR?

Nick - this brings me on to your pics - nice selection. That modernish signal box won't win any architectural awards! I see Network Rail had decked out those yards with a fair few porta cabins too. I do wonder since one is always passing proper old railway buildings clearly all out of use and boarded up (old stations etc) - then at the drop of a hat instead of fixing them up as a nice place for staff to work they seem to buy a few ugly pre fab sheds and stick them down in the car park as if that was acceptable - either for other people to look at or for their people to work in!

I wondered what type of train operates the London - Fishgaurd (presumably) boat trains you mention - are there still 2 a day - or one each way per day? Is it an HST 125?

Other part of the weekend I went to a couple of readings at a local Book Festival - (what relevance is this I hear you ask) - well the best one by far was by a chap called Ian Marchant who has written a really good (amusing) book about travelling around Britain by train called ‘Parallel Lines' - he read some extracts from that - it is very funny and explores railway history in a really interesting way - whilst making a few light hearted (but not unfair) jibes at some of his fellow enthusiasts. It is quite UK cantered so would appeal to Pete, but I think most of all it would appeal to Nick - since I sense there are a few shared interests (playing in a band, living in a remote part of Wales etc etc) - so Nick - if you can stretch to the purchase of this book I'd recommend it!

Also, he was promoting his current book, which is even more promising - this was a book about travelling from pub to pub starting in the far South West (Scilly Isles) and ending up in far north (Shetlands) on what he calls the longest pub crawl ever. From the sections of the book he read out - and the anecdotes mentioned - this is a very funny book too.

Anyway - something about him is here:

http://www.ianmarchant.com/Biography/biography.html

Something about his railway book is here (trust me, despite his comments, this is a good railway book although won't appeal to all I guess)

http://www.ianmarchant.com/Writing/Books/Parallel_Lines/parallel_lines.html

Some pics from the railway book are here:

http://www.ceinewydd.com/parallel/index.html

Anyway - I was able to get to and from this book festival by trains - using single car 153 DMU units (sadly with interiors looking decidedly the worse for wear).

Apols not for going in to detail on other posts - but I enjoyed the pics posted by Tom and by Eric, and hope to see you all soon.

By the way - Pete - Glos / Warwicks event I mentioned a while back had the following in steam (with some archive pics for others to get a feel for the types listed):

92203 Black Prince

http://www.steamtraingalleries.co.uk/pic_gwr_110.html

3440 City of Truro

http://www.steamtraingalleries.co.uk/pic_gwr_128.html

34007 Wadebriedge (Bullied streamlined)

7903 Foremark Hall

http://www.steamtraingalleries.co.uk/pic_gwr_103.html

5542 GWR prairie

5619 GWR 0-6-2 on the superbly restored Auto-Train

a bit like this: http://www.steamtraingalleries.co.uk/pic_gwr_090.html

44422 LMS 4F

SR 850 Lord Nelson had developed a fault so was on static display only. A shame

Regards

DL

 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, June 23, 2008 2:00 PM

G'day Gents!

Noted the appearance of Dan our Resident Sherwood Forest Connection with his "all-Brit" commentary! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Good to see ya, Mate - surely helps out on this rather confusing Monday!  

Can't quite understand WHY we can't get some "life" into Mondays during daylite . . . especially since some have loooooooong periods away from the bar. <geesh> Confused [%-)]

Anyway . . . time for another Post - spaced out by at least an hour . . .

Continuing on with Rendezvous III  fotos . . .

NOTE: Day Three at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <MoT, Kirkwood> . . .

"Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous III - St. Louis, MO 2008 - Day Three

Fotos taken from the moving mini-train . . .

(189) Steamrollers

(190)

(191) Forward view of the mini-train interior

(192) Rear view <get outta the way Wolfman ‘n Shane! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]>

(193) There's Eric <again>!

(194) Back at the station!

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More to follow  . . .  Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, June 23, 2008 3:07 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTHThumbs Up [tup].

TOM Great selections in your ‘This and That' photos 5XThumbs Up [tup]. It looks like in the one of us on the Texas Eagle at Rendezvous II I am consoling myself about the soda pop in the bagSad [:(] with a Sam AdamsApprove [^]. Good to see my friend at the TrainWreck SaloonThumbs Up [tup] but is that mistletoe above the buffalo's headShock [:O]Smile [:)]

Glad you enjoyed the photos.Thumbs Up [tup] The ‘Duke' is producing some really good performances on the main line this yearBow [bow]. In its BR days it was known as a bit of a black sheep, but the preservationists have improved the locoBow [bow] including an ash pan that was made wrongly and restricted air flow to the fire.

It was a good job the vice squad was busy that day at the TrainWreck saloonBig Smile [:D].

Good films on at the Emporium this weekApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. We have talked about the USS Pueblo incident and it would be good to see the film.Yeah!! [yeah] I have seen The Patriot it is a good film but still a bitConfused [%-)] why they had an Australian actor to play the part as well as him playing William Wallace in Braveheart and, of course the StoogesBig Smile [:D].

That is good news indeed about the B.C. trestles after the wildfiresThumbs Up [tup], all credit to BC for replacing them as they were and not with a modern structureBow [bow].

Good words for Mighty Man NickApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Yes I always enjoy seeing photos from back home of today's rail sceneApprove [^], I am real happy to see the branch lines that so easily could have closed still very much open and in use with modern units.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the Atlantic Coast Line Passenger Railroad Fallen FlagApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. The ACL seemed to go in for a lot of duel purpose passenger and freight diesels. Great paintings of The Champion.Approve [^]

Great photos of our mini train ride at Rendezvous IIIThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

ERIC Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup], all the photos were from Alan apart from the two with ‘Duke' undergoing restoration at Loughborough. The ‘Dukes drivers are 6ft 2 inches.

Great photos of C&O # 2727 and the locomotive's detailsApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Liked "The Streetcar Called Desire" Big Smile [:D]

Many thanks for the photos and information on the TMY and the T43 in Great Northern livery.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. To me, the TMY has a very American look about the locomotive. Thanks as well for the URL to the T66Thumbs Up [tup], looking at the photo I noticed that the loco did not have any yellow on the endsConfused [%-)], I guess it is not compulsory in Sweden to have yellow ends on diesel and electric locos as it is in the UK where a certain percentage of the front of a loco has to have high visibility yellow.

ALLAN Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. I saw a lot of the replay ABs against England Rugby on the TV at Pat's Saturday eveningYeah!! [yeah]. 32 points is a big marginShock [:O] but it is good England didn't throw the towel in and kept trying to the end of the matchThumbs Up [tup]. I wonder if the British Lions would do much better against the Abs.Question [?]

Yes I kind of wondered if the computer would star up the next day or not after the lightningShock [:O].

NICK Very much enjoying your photos from Haverford West and Whitland, many thanks 5XThumbs Up [tup]. It is really good to see a working goods yard at H/WestApprove [^], how many of those yards that have disappeared under supermarkets, houses and of course car parks over the last 40 years is anybodies guessSad [:(]Thumbs Down [tdn].

I wonder if the building behind the signalbox at Neyland was a pub at one timeQuestion [?]. It was great to see the GW semaphore signal,Thumbs Up [tup] although as you say it does look a bit odd without its finial. I don't think I would fancy a trip all the way from Milford Haven to Manchester on a 158 unit,Shock [:O] I think the newer class 175 in the first photos would be more comfortable over the longer distances. Yeah!! [yeah]

Great photo of the 153 single car unit on a mid winter evening.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

It would be good to see photos of NeylandThumbs Up [tup] I had a look in a 1955 combine and Neyland was a main shed with the code 87H and had sub sheds at Cardigan, Milford Haven, Pembroke Dock and Whitland under its control. Neyland and the other code 87 sheds were under the control of 87A Neath.

CM3 The Co-Co Class 50s were introduced in 1967 built at the Vulcan Foundry works of English Electric (now sadly demolished) and were first used on the West Coast Main line north of Crewe to Glasgow. With a 100MPH capability it was to cut journey times as the route south of Crewe was electrified to London Euston.

 During the electrification of the line from Weaver Junction to the Glasgow area, some trains were double headed by 50s to recover time from the electrification work speed restrictions.

 After the electrification was complete the 50s moved to the Western Region to replace the ‘Western' Diesel Hydraulics, they were soon replaced on the express passenger trains by the High Speed Trains but found work on the London Paddington to Hereford/ Birmingham and still some heavier trains to the West Country, also on South West to North east cross-country trains.

They finished off their main line career working the London Waterloo to Exeter passenger trains on the old L&SWR main line. A number of them are preservedApprove [^]. Oh yes, the prime mover, it is an English Electric 16CVST producing 2,700HP at 850RPM driving an EE generator powering EE traction motors.

Glad you enjoyed the photos of 71000Thumbs Up [tup].

Liked the Anniversary tale.Laugh [(-D]Thumbs Up [tup]

DL Good to see you in.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] I have to agree I think the Network Rail yellow is the worst livery on BR right now.Thumbs Down [tdn]

Glad you enjoyed those old GCR photosThumbs Up [tup] it is amazing how much the preserved line as expanded since those mid 1970s shots.Bow [bow]

Many thanks for the URL to Ian Marchant and his Parallel Lines bookThumbs Up [tup], it does sound well worth a readYeah!! [yeah] although I probably won't agree with everything in itSmile [:)]. The pub one should be good as wellThumbs Up [tup]. Another book I have got to read is ‘Platform Soles' I don't know if you have heard of it.Thumbs Up [tup]

That is an impressive list of locos in steam on the Glos/Warwicks gala Wow!! [wow]and they really are great photos in the linksBow [bow]. The Auto train could be in GWR daysApprove [^] and great photo of the 9F on freight duty, of course City of Truro looks superbBow [bow].

Well RUTH I had better get a round in Thumbs Up [tup] as the post has got a bit long but it was a good weekend at the barApprove [^]. A 'Special' photo coming soon.

Pete.

 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, June 23, 2008 10:10 PM

Good evening there Leon. Indeed a crazy slooow day today oh well monday Blah's I guess.Looks as thouhh the damage from the Friday free for all has been squared away.For the record I don't want to know anymore details about the lunber crews knot hole,Blindfold [X-)]or why there seems to be alot of freshly disturbed soil behind Boris's shed.Shock [:O]

Anyway just a Keith's and here's a twenty for some breakfast rounds Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom-Loved all the photo's from Saturday,a really nice crosssection of just about everything.Wonderfull to see all the memories the various Our Places and R's has already produced Thumbs Up [tup]

I think Mayers will be the needed fit the new coach and the current GM will likely use him to his best uses.As to the TO media they just need to put peoples feet to the flame for any and all provication real or imagined. i suppose it helps them sell papers <barf>

What a "win" on those tickets enjoy that concert my friend.If he sings the Railraod trilogy and the Edmund Fitzgerald it will be a concert worth seeing.

Eric-Loved the steam and caboose shots.I guess that Bombardier couldn't get hydrolics to work on the tilts,but those locos and cars were a great ride,the cars still are.Sorry to confuse the story on the GN but Great Northern had some trackage in Southern BC ( BNSF uses it now ) so that loco was one of those assigned to that line which is why the BC museum has it.Intersing links to the GN loco in Sweden Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete-Loved all the shots over the last couple days,some great steam shots to be sure.I don't know but I think that that locomotive may ahve been named Othello or Ofellia,I just don't have the roster list that I thought I had. ( translated it's burried in a pile of paper in my office )

Thanks for the airshow info as well.

Shane-Ian Wilson has confirmed this fall the book on Hamilton will be out,they usually corespond with the Copetown Ontario train show so that should mean that it's out the third week of October likely,I'll keep you posted.

Nick-A ton of great photo's,looks like you had quite the productive day while you were waiting for the MIL to arrive by train.I'm amazed that there are still semafores in use on those lines in your neck of the woods. Interesting to be sure Thumbs Up [tup]

Dan-Hey nice to see you back with all the great uk urls Thumbs Up [tup]

Allan-I'm glad that all the photo's did it for you. Feel free to blow up those shots and enjoy them. Thumbs Up [tup] 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:17 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon,I'll have a #5 supersized, please!

Another warm/hot day, 113Ëš. Could have been worse.

Allan –  I sent a package loaded with 115Ëš F (46Ëš C) heat to you this morning.Wink [;)] Hope you can use it. I’ll send more later.Smile [:)]

Nick –  Interesting pictures from the station!Thumbs Up [tup] Are they really going to build houses where the yard is?Question [?] Arriva seems to be everywhere. I have a friend in Sweden who is working as a locomotive engineer for them.

Ground signal. Hmm, different name on something that for me is a dwarf signal. But, why not? The down bay platform starter (W7) looks kind of low. I guess a person can reach up to the wing/arm. I guess the wing/arm is pointing down at a 45Ëš angle when it is clear (or whatever that aspect is called. Intresting, very interesting!
There is a mix of different kind of signals. Do they have any kind of ATC (Automatic Train Control) in that area?

 

Dwarf signal.



I like the colors of that 3-car set.

That ground signal is mechanically controlled from the tower?Question [?] With a oil burning light? Wow, it must be an old type of signal.Smile [:)]

Tom –  Thanks for the info on the bus!Thumbs Up [tup] Just liked it, that is a good reason!Smile [:)] When I was a little kid I wanted to become a bus conductor. And I did for a few years before I became a bus driver.

Yeah, you are right about Pete, he is stealthy.Yeah!! [yeah]

I was kind of disappointed about those Swedish locomotives in GN livery. I had hoped for something more exciting. I checked what kind of movie it was. Not my kind, that's for sure.Grumpy [|(]

I am going to win a RV from Cracker Barrel.Yeah!! [yeah] It comes with a lot of cash so then I can take a trip up to Alaska. Smile [:)]

The Story of the USS Pueblo!Yeah!! [yeah] That is really something I want to see. Time for a visit to the Emporium again! Plus another good movie, The Patriot! And the Shivering Sherlocks! Smile [:)]

Planned absence? Hmmm, it must be that lady in the streetcar! Whistling [:-^]

Interesting info on ACL!Thumbs Up [tup] I’ve always liked the livery on their locomotives!

More sunny photos from the Museum of Transportation!Thumbs Up [tup] I wonder what kind of plans they have for that area the mini-train is circling?Question [?]

CM3 –  Thanks for the round!Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes, I am planning to buy a Locomotive Cyclopedia. I have seen them many times at eBay.

Of course, men can remember anniversaries! Especially if it is the day they were going to get out! Wink [;)]

DL –  Thanks for the links to those beautiful steam train photos!Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete –  You are right about lcomotives in Sweden. They can be painted in any color, including the front. From mid 50’s all new electrics were painted orange which gave them a high visibility. Now there is only one electric locomotive left in that color. Most of the other ones are green, blue, or black (!!!). It is crazy. I hate it. Grumpy [|(]




This is a nice color in my opinion. 1976.Smile [:)]



Rob –  So GN had trackage in BC! That explains the loco at the museum! As I mentioned to Tom, I was kind of disappointed that a movie was the reason for the Swedish locos being in GN livery. Especially that kind of movie.Grumpy [|(]


Alton & Southern #12, switcher.

 

Built by ALCO 1926.

 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:35 AM

<KCS FP9A at KCity Union Station - personal foto>

 

 

G'day Gents!

And so Tuesday is upon us, my least favorite day of the week - for some reason, it's just a <blah> day. But, not so here at the Saloon by the Siding for we're now serving our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts along with the best coffee ‘n pastries to be found in Can-Am County! C'mon, join us for breakfast ‘n some Classic Train talk! Yeah!! [yeah]

And in the YCFS Dept. <You Can't Fix Stupid> comes this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080623/od_nm/euro_orange_dc;_ylt=AnLheuLekCRS7F2Cix3Lte6s0NUE

 

Comments from the Proprietor

Help wanted! I'll be away from the bar from mid-day Wednesday ‘til Friday morning. Pete will also be away for a wee bit longer. So, we need the GoR - AND - our PGs <periphery guys> to step up the plate. Only asking for ONE daylite Post to help out.

If you can, try to space ‘em out so that they aren't bunched into a knot . . . thanx! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Especially asking for those who routinely "peek in," but say nothing to drop off a comment or three - maybe even a foto! Wow!! [wow]

Where's Fergie Question [?] He's out there - but not here. Guess he's no longer one of our PGs . . . oh well, to each his own, eh Question [?] Last visit here was June 6th . . .  gone-zo, but not forgotten. Confused [%-)]

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Keeping track!

216 fotos from my 2008 Canada Rail Odyssey . . . the end!

194 fotos from Rendezvous III

. . . more to follow!

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Monday - June 23rd <all times Central daylite>:

Page 44- CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:45 AM: "In" with all sorts of commentary - but nary a one ‘bout those BoSox!! Hmmmmmmm. C'mon - one of your favorite teams was bound to come out on top. <grin> See, playing both ends against the middle DOES pay! Wow!! [wow]

Absolutely LUV'd the joke - this one "pegged" the Groan-O-Meter, but was well worth the <yucks>! Nice way to begin the morning . . . Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Gordon Lightfoot could sing 100 of his tunes ‘n we'd still want MORE! Great lyricist, musician ‘n performer. Thumbs Up [tup] We're looking forward to the concert - first time I can recall him being here in a major venue - Fox Theatre is "it" for something like that.

You are correct about Bat-Wolf-Stealthy Pete - however, catch that "wicked" look of his! <uh oh>

Don't get me started on American history ‘n what our citizens don't know . . . drives me up a wall. Just began reading The Killing of History <recommended by you some time ago> ‘n I'm ready to bite nails . . . <arrrrrrrggggghhhhh>

Many thanx for the fine, inclusive Post - quarters ‘n ROUND too! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 44 - Dan <DL-UK> at 12:37 PM <6:37 PM GMT>: Praise the Lawd for sending us our Resident Sherwood Forest Connection on this Monday. Really don't know what it is about the day after a weekend, but most times the guys who have had long periods of being away, seem to streeeeeeeetch it even longer by not coming in ‘til later in the day, if at all. Banged Head [banghead] <img src="http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Novelties/Smilies/icon_smile_censored1.gif">

So, you've done a bit of catch up, eh Question [?] That's fine. And by the by, there is NO requirement to present an epistle for each ‘n every Post read - never has been. It's totally up to the reader . . . all we ask is that some sort of an acknowledgment be made to those who are providing the lion's share of the material ‘round here - which you have! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow] Some guys have never "gotten that" . . . oh well.

All kinds of URLs - haven't seen so many in quite awhile . . . but I'll surely get A-ROUNDTUIT ‘n check ‘em out! <grin>

Got that Wide-Page-Phenom - ‘n it appears that at least one of yor URLs may be the culprit. Suggest you use the smallest font available when those links stretch across the Page . . . thanx! Thumbs Up [tup]

Call for assistance is in the daily summary - hopefully you can come forth on Thursday for us! Thumbs Up [tup]

Enjoyed eavesdropping your submission - although it surely is a "Brit thing" - which is fine with us! Yeah!! [yeah] If not for the guys from the UK <ex-pats included> this joint would be foundering big time . . . <founder is the correct word, land lubbers - flounder is a fish!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Appreciate the visit ‘n business! <KaChing> <KaChing>

 

 

Page 44 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:07 PM: Our Bar Chandler has made it "in" with another talkative submission - the man always finds things to comment on, which of course is just right for an adult bar ‘n grill! Yeah!! [yeah]

With three thus far during daylite <not counting Moi, of course> there's a bit o' hope for Monday! Was beginning to wonder . . . <groan>

Surely you recall climbing up to give that Buffalo a "smacker" - yeah, Mistletoe will "do it" everytime! <grin>

Guess when it comes to acting, nationalities don't factor in - that's why they are actors, Mate! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] All good flicks though . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

The way things are going in this country - I'm surprised we don't paint our loco's PINK! <yikes>

Only YOU would spot a location that may have been a Pub! But ya know, it does look that way! Thumbs Up [tup]

Yeah, they surely did it "right" up in BC regarding those railway trestles . . . not surprised at all. Just the way many still are about their landmarks, etc. Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

No additional comments from me regarding the USS Pueblo OTHER than to say "they" should be ever thankful that I wasn't President at the time - or even thereafter. Betcha Margaret Thatcher wouldn't have let something like that go unanswered . . .

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Meant to make comment about that semaphore Nick Posted - little doubt <doot for Rob!> that someone ripped off the finial. <groan> I remember when the telephone ‘n electric wires were being put underground - there was a huge market for those glass insulators. Probably now can find ‘em on the web . . . Thumbs Down [tdn]

While the talk these days <daze> is of DMUs, just think how fortunate we are to have a locomotive powering our roundtrip to KCity coming up this week!! Yeah!! [yeah]

Many thanx for the visit, < I3 > comments ‘n ROUND! Looking forward to whatever is coming next . . .  Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 44 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:10 PM: Our Manager is baaaaaaaack AND turned the Page to 45! Wow!! [wow] Bow [bow] Yeah!! [yeah] So, what's behind "Door #1," Boris! An introductory pass to the Mentor Village Baths ‘n Abs Conditioning Centre <H&H Prop.> <uh oh>

You KNOW he's gonna sing the Fitzgerald . . . Trilogy, well since we'll be right up front - I'll let him know! <grin> Really looking forward to it . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Appreciate the return visit ‘n bucks for breakfasts! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Tuesday - June 24th:

Page 44 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:17 AM <11:17 PM Monday, Sandbox time>: An RV trip to Alaska! Now that's a dream worth dreaming . . . with all of the attention you've given to Cracker Barrel over the years, it's the least they can do! <grin> By the by, does that RV come with its own fuel tanker Question [?] <yikes> Most of those big rigs get less than 10 mpg . . . a neighbor of ours had one of the largest I've ever seen - 100 gallon tank <two 50s> ‘n he said it got him 8 mpg. <triple yikes> Methinks RV days <daze> are coming to an end . . . but NOT for lottery ‘n contest winners, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

A fine < I3 > Post from our Resident NOCTURNAL Desert RETIRED Swede <aka: Sandman>! Some good fotos <as always> ‘n the aspect of that dwarf signal is interesting! Your signal chart that you gave the guys at Rendezvous III comes in handy, Mate! Thumbs Up [tup]

From what I gathered, the MoT will be using the lower area for additional exhibits ‘n moving some from up above. I don't have a time frame, BUT on my next visit I'll be sure to find out. Of course it's all tied to the availability of money, eh Question [?]

Many thanx for the visit ‘n business! <KaChing> <KaChing>

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by DL - UK on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:48 AM

Hello Tom and all in

Can I have pancakes off the breakfast menu please, coffee and orange juice please too.

Tom - I liked that ACL livery - I wonder if Mike could find some classic era colour shots of those trains?

Eric - glad you liked the steam pics - I juts chanced upon that site to illustrate my list - but as you say the pics are very well done.

CM3 - cranks up the groan - o - meter again! As you say, the Class 50 did end up with a big following and as Pete says many are preserved - they were pretty much the last large UK built diesel locomotive designed specifically for passenger hauling (I'm not counting the power cars of the 125 mph High Speed Trains as they are not really quite the same - given they are in fixed formation units. As Pete will no doubt recall, I think 125s were actually classed as a DMU when introduced!). I used to be impressed when I saw Class 50s at Paddington station as a youth, but sadly fitted in little or no haulage behind them myself, their sphere of operation being outside the range of my pocket money! They had good design style and in later years were all named after warships - which was a welcome restoration of a traditional approach.

Plenty of nice pics here:

http://www.fiftyfund.org.uk/

Pete - you mentioned the 175 DMUs vs the 158s - I agree - the 175s have quite well designed interiors and I think good window alignment too - although like many other types they suffer from a dearth of groups of 4 seats which is a shame.

We seem to have inherited a large fleet of 158s round here recently - some ex Transpenine, some ex Arriva Wales and West and some ex Central Trains - and they are all in a terrible state - filthy grubby interiors, tatty upholstery, clapped out seat cushions etc. I hope East Midlands Trains are going to do something about them because they are a total embarrassment to their company. They are a real contrast (for the worse) from the superbly maintained Cl 159s of similar design operated by sister company South West Trains. Mind you, they have put some loco haulage back on the Skegness route so one can't complain, but I don't know how to find out exactly which days this will operate.

Pete - I think you would enjoy Marchant's book - what is interesting is that he seems to have come to the pastime in later life - i.e. it is not a childhood rooted interest for him - so he seems to be prepared to poke gentle fun at times - but his own enthusiasm for what interests him, the network, the p-way, the history etc shine through. He has a good sense of humour too. I think his humour meshes in with some of Nick's wilder late night posts which is why I think Nick HAS to read this book, but you would also enjoy it I am sure

As for Platform Souls - well - now that is a superb book - I can't believe you have not read it! If you got a copy I'm convinced you would not put it down till you reached the end - then you'd lend it to Tom, who would not only enjoy it - but would come to understand more about the Brit enthusiast with every page, so you must get hold of a copy - if only to lend to Tom!!

I chanced upon it in a bookshop when it was first published and splashed out on a hard back copy - one of the best books I've read.

I see it is available on Amazon for as little as 10 pence (but I'd recommend going for a nice condition second hand or new one as you will want to keep a good copy). OK you will have to splash out on 2 or 3 quid for shipping costs, but I'd urge you to place an order ASAP !!

It looks like the author has put some sections on the web (but don't read many of them or it will spoil the book for you). I've pasted one below to give you a feel. Read this and I'm sure you will want to read the book!

http://www.biffo.net/NW/platform/psindex.htm

"Crewe was the trainspotter's Mecca. I'd had my first glimpse of it in late 1964, passing through on a day trip to Rhyl with my mum. I'd half-expected it, but it took my breath away... Ambling in from the Derby line, the tracks suddenly came at us from all sides, switching, meshing, taking the simple perspective of one railway track and weaving a tangled magic carpet. Here was absolute railwayness -  on all sides, rails below us, electric wires above. A sprawling soot-clouded depot slipped away to the left before I even had chance to gasp. It was as overwhelming as a holy vision...

But the train wasn't stopping. If the vision made me laugh with joy, it quickly turned into a kind of hysteria. Dashing from window to window, crunching everyone's toes, I couldn't take it all in at once -  black steamers with the brassy glint of nameplates, green big-nosed diesels, blue electrics kissing the overhead wires with a crack of sparks. The numbers danced in front of me and quickly slipped away"

From Nicholas Whittaker - Platform Souls

Here's the link to some bargain priced copies:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0575400110/burtoninternetfo

Cheerio

All the best

DL

PS - Tom - just seen your post - I posted before THEN recalled wide page problem - but it was too late for me to do anything - sorry - out of practice I guess.

Just realized I missed Rob too - thanks Rob - good to see you too!

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:33 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please, round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Clear weather here today for a change.  We dodged some nasty stuff again last evening.

DL visited.  Thanks for the link to the 50s.  BTW, lovely quotation you sent along.  "...tangled magic carpet...rails below us, electric wires above..." reminded me of the first time I saw the PRR.  I'm going to have to go after this one myself. 

Pete - Movies are all about the $.  Thus the casting for the "Patriot."  The history of the campaigns in the south is far more interesting than any movie.  Thanks for the information about the 50s - it was just what I wanted to know.

Rob - Keep me up-to-date on the Hamilton book.

Eric - Locomotive Cyclopedias have been r/p as well - they probably fetch just as much as some of the originals.  My suggestion is to get one from the late 20s to mid 30s as it will have modern steam, the electric information you want, as well as early diesels.   IIRC, the one we looked at in the library was abt. 1935 or so.

OSP - I can't win (neither can the Red Sox!)  You said interleague play was "off the table," therefore no comments (lol).  Nothing you can say except that the middle game was horrible. 

Nice rerun on the ACL.

That's why I suggested Killing of History to you - thought you'd appreciate what was in there.

Note - I'll hold down my usual early a.m. slot.

Work safe

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:32 AM

NOTICE!     NOTICE!     NOTICE!

 

 

The RR BOOK RELAY 2008!  Gets going on Wednesday as I turn Eric's book, Steel Rails to Victory, over to Pete! I liked the book so much that I ordered a hardbound copy <1970 ed.> for myself!

  

  

From the jacket

Hundreds of photographs, some from the archives of the warring powers and never-before reproduced, tell the exciting story of the role of railroads in World War II. From hastily constructed light railways in forward positions to the vast, efficient rail networks existing in the interior of every belligerent nation, all battle plans had to take the railroad situation into serious consideration.

Where rail service was delayed and finally destroyed, armies were compromised and eventually defeated in the field. It is significant that the first strategic air raid by the great American bombers was directed against a railway objective near Rouen in occupied France. The inherent characteristics of economy and flexibility in railways were revealed in every phase of the war and even involved them to a considerable degree in the commission of atrocities.

The European theater of operations was in every sense a "railroad war, in which track conditions and locomotive availability figures were as vital as ammunition and troop strength. Mr. Ziel, however, not only discussed the war in Europe but also the importance of railroads in some Pacific operations as well as the home-front American railroads.

The stories of the railroads, the railroad men, and the railroad armies of World War II unfold in the dramatic photographs and fascinating narrative of STEEL RAILS TO VICTORY. Here is a lasting document to interest both the railroad fan and the historian of what was perhaps the last great "railroad war."

 

  

It's not too late to sign-up, but PLEASE let me know by EMAIL    because sometimes things Posted at the bar have a way of getting misplaced (ie: not read)!!

  

Enjoy this fine CLASSIC wartime railroad/railway book! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

P.S. Good seeing Dan 'n CM3 Shane this AM! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by phuster on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:57 PM
Garson!? Down here, the other end of the bar. I've been nursing this brew I brought with me, sneakin in and trying to stay in the shadows, picking up little snippets here and there, but it's time to speak up. I'd love to see some of the photos you all share, especially the Niagara Falls passenger and trolley lines. Maybe even buy a round or two. Not much to say about me. I model in S now, HO was getting hard to see.Just starting a layout. Maybe 10 by 25 feet with room to grow. Whaddaya say? Want some company?
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:12 PM

G'day Gents!

What's this Question [?] Someone asking to join us Question [?] Wow!! [wow] Of course we'd enjoy getting to know ya - first drink is on the house IF you come back a second time! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Your Email was just received 'n responded to - so perhaps you'd like to check it out. I tried to address your questions 'n hope I did.

As you will see in the Email, you've come upon an active, but small group of guys who enjoy the atmosphere of an adult bar 'n grill where the talk is focused on Classic Trains, but at times covers the spectrum of this 'n that - including model trains. Check out Page One of this Thread <site> to catch up on the way we do things 'round here.

We've got a trolly enthusiast 'round here who once reads your words will pretty much jump through hoops to provide the fotos you've asked about <aboot for Rob!> He's up in Ontario - but you'll get to know him in short order. Great guy - as are all of our regulars. Thumbs Up [tup]

I'm an HO railroader who also has an S-gauge layout. Pix are on this Thread - Pages back. Really like S, but HO is more of my "thing" . . . but we can talk about <aboot for Rob> later!

Oh yeah, best way to get going is to read the past several Pages - AFTER you've checked out our first Page . . . the morning summaries <acknoweldgments> are also helpful in that you'll always know what's going on by following 'em . . .

The guys at "Our" Place have a bit of info in their profiles - at least letting us know where you are 'n perhaps a name to go with your cyber handle. Time zone, etc. all help us get to know one another . . . but of course, your choice - phuster it shall be 'til you tell us otherwise!

And you're already off to a QUESTIONABLE START - we don't appreciate people bringing in their own brew! <geesh> I see Boris <resident Cyclops> has taken care of that "problem"! <uh oh> Not to worry - we won't hold it against ya . . . but no more! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] We stock every major brew known to man kind - but NO microbrews . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Hope you find us to your liking AND thanx for stopping in! <cheers>

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by pwolfe on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:16 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

ROB Congrats on turning page 45Bow [bow] and thanks for the roundThumbs Up [tup].

Thanks for the kind words on the photos.Thumbs Up [tup] I think I would put my money on Ophelia for the name of that locomotive. Seeing the name barely visible reminded me of a locomotive tender in Barry Scrap yard. The salty sea air there had gone through several layers of paint and the legend SOUTHERN could clearly be made out. The Southern marking must have been before 1948 when BR was formedWow!! [wow].

ERIC I agree there is something about a dark colored front of a modern locomotive that is unsettlingThumbs Down [tdn], I guess it could be said with headlights a reflective bright color is not needed but I am not sure. The orange livery does suit that electric locomotiveApprove [^].

The poor old Alton & Southern #12 looks in need of some TLC.Sad [:(]

Another name that enginemen used for a ground signal was ‘Dolly'.

What chance of a rolling rendezvous aboard the RV you are going to win from Cracker BarrelSmile [:)].

DL Thanks for the details and the URL to the Class 50s.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Being a old fartSigh [sigh] I can remember them when they were all based at Crewe Diesel and had a ride behind one from Crewe to Glasgow not long before the line was electrified on an all line BR railrover. Although I have lost my notebooks from those days I can still recall in was 407 later 50007 that hauled me. I also in later years had quite a few rides behind them on the Exeter to Salisbury route.Approve [^] They could be incredibly smoky if the engine was not right.Shock [:O]

It is a shame indeed the 158s DMUs that have come to your area are I such a bad conditionThumbs Down [tdn], hopefully they will put them through works before very longYeah!! [yeah]. I had a look and I found the early 158s will be 20 years old next yearWow!! [wow] does not time fly.Question [?]

Can you let me know what locos will be hauling the Skegness trainsThumbs Up [tup]. It would be great if it were some class 20s like the old daysApprove [^], I believe DRS has some.

I will have to ask Alan if he has read Mr. Marchant's book as it was Alan who gave me a copy of Platform Souls, he enjoyed it and I have found it so I will get to and read iYeah!! [yeah]t, then pass it on to Tom, it looks like a Lionel train set on the cover. Yes that's how Crewe wasApprove [^] I spent a day there about 1964 and passed through on our holidays to North Wales. Thanks for bringing back great memories.Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 Glad you found the info on class 50s usefulThumbs Up [tup]. Alan has sent over a couple of magazines that have a series of articles on British diesel locomotives manufacturing, particularly those built by the English Electric CompanyThumbs Up [tup]. It will be interesting to read about the development of the class 50s which I believe came from a EE demonstrator locomotive DP2, that was a successful design first used on the West Coast main line then transferred to the East Coast, unfortunately DP2 was wrecked at Thirsk North YorkshireSad [:(].

If you would like to borrow ‘Platform Souls' let me know and I can post it too youThumbs Up [tup].

TOM. Great URL about the orange vestsThumbs Up [tup], if there was a team that played in yellow it really would have got tricky.Big Smile [:D]

I suppose you are right about actors. But there are not that many who can't get the accent totally right, which sometimes jars on the ears of someone who is native to the area the film is set in. Although not a Cockney I still can't forget Dick Van ***'s (although a good actor) accent in Mary PoppinsShock [:O].

Yes it is strange that a Great Western signal looks so unfinished without a finial whereas the other companies do notYeah!! [yeah].

There are very little service trains, apart from the East Coast Main Line with class 91 electrics, that are locomotive hauled on BR nowadaysSad [:(], although I guess the two HST power cars on each HST set could be termed locos although I agree with DL on them .I still very much prefer to have a locomotive and cars.Yeah!! [yeah]

I have no recollection of the ‘buffalo incident'Whistling [:-^]

Looking forward to seeing you tomorrowThumbs Up [tup] and getting the RR book relay off to a startYeah!! [yeah], looks a great book.Approve [^]

A couple of photosThumbs Up [tup].

Taken by Alan on February 9th 2008 at Manchester Victoria station on the Cotton Mill Express, which runs on a circular route from Manchester via Huddersfield, Copy Pit summit, Blackburn , Bolton and back to Manchester  

 

The loco is BR Standard 2MT 2-6-0 No 76079 introduced in 1953. The loco is known as the 'Pocket Rocket' due to its good performance despite its relativly small size.Bow [bow].


On the left of this photo is the Manchester Metro light rail system with a tram car in the left background. The tram is about to leave the Ex BR line from Bury and take to street running through the center of Manchester.

Now as asked for,Yeah!! [yeah] not my alto egoSmile [:)] but a photo of AlanThumbs Up [tup].

 


At Swanwick junction on the Midland Railway Centre, with 6233 Duchess of Sutherland in the background.The CAMRA(CAMpaign for Real Ale) bag as done as many miles on the rails as the black bagBow [bow]Smile [:)], the shirt is the mighty Shrewsbury Town F.CThumbs Up [tup]. the same as the one I was going to wear for the baseball match at Rendezvous III.

Well RUTH a round please.

Pete.   

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:00 PM

G'day Gents!

I see Pete made it "in" with another of his trade-mark < I3> Posts - but Banged Head [banghead] just can't get the man to drop off even ONE foto over on "my other Thread" when there's been hours ‘n hours of inactivity. <geesh> Anyway, good to see ya! Tomorrow is nearly here, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Continuing on with Rendezvous III  fotos . . .

NOTE: Day Three at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <MoT, Kirkwood> . . .

"Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous III - St. Louis, MO 2008 - Day Three

(195) Earl C. Lindburg Automobile Center <foto from Dec 2007 - sorry, Eric!!>

(196) 1957 Chevrolet Bel-Air 2-door ragtop

(197) 1957 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman 2-door hardtop

(198) 1951 Studebaker Champion 2-door coupe

(199)1954 Chevrolet 2-door sedan

* * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *

More to follow  . . .  Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:07 PM

Well good evening one and all Smile [:)]-And a warm Welcome to PHUSTER-pull up a seat and grab a brew mate,We are,as noted, an easy going if somewhat eclectic crew and more than happy to share and enjoy-dont be put off by the sometimes bewildering references to persons and places-over the years the bar has grown it`s own `back story` with a cast of characters to match-all will become clear.............

So-Leon-a Staropramen night I think-and please give these gentlemen a drink before they cut up rough again Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

O.K-Catch-up night for me--Thanks to all for kind words R.E pix-dump on sunday-was delighted to catch the `busy` time at the stn.   Further good news on the pix front-got several shots of the Messerschmitt 3-wheeler at the rally yesterday-plus the other 20 or so motors on display-will post a representative sample and if anybody is interested will E-Mail the rest.........

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-Happy to fill in as and when I can mate-might be a bit hit & miss but will be aboot the decks when I can

Right-several pages to comment on here ,so will do it in bite size chunks.......

ROB-Tequila-Don`t get me started please-never again-thank the lord for tolerant policemen......Brilliant flypast shot Thumbs Up [tup]--Joan Rivers reminds me of a female Keith Richards (think aboot it-then try to sleep <hehehehe> )

ALLAN-Glad you enjoyed the pix-congrats to your adopted countrymen on a job well done-at senior and junior levels-no doubt about it-the blacks are back-and how...........

SHANE-Had no idea the `Murphy`s` were such a big name-still,makes sense-perfect rabble-rousing music-will have to add `Tessie` to Missisnicks I-Pod ( I dont need one-I just listen to the voices in my head....)--Why train dogs to find drugs  ?-just go to any house with guitars & drums being played loudly & badly,tap on the door and ask nicely-they are bound to have some Whistling [:-^]

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-Take your point R.E punk music-look how little of it has stood the test of time,but for me it was part of a larger thing-every generation needs it`s flag-wavers and as a teenage musician it was a breath of fresh air-street music if you will-something that wasn`t produced by multi-millionaires in Beverly hills mansions---B.T.W-Lightfoot tickets-So envious I could spit-ENJOY mate !!!!! Thumbs Up [tup]Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

Cracking piece on the Santa-Fe Chiefs ( I had no idea the sub -basement was still accessible-thought we had bricked it up after the unpleasantness with the Dan Brown tour party ) also the R.D.V & Canadian shield pix-also the buses and R.D.V selection-especially enjoyed the Denali shot-for reasons that tie in with my extended absence from the bar-but that is a tale for the fireside which does me no credit..............

PETE-Some fine `blue` shots from Paignton & Littleton #5-is the A.V.R at Bitton ?,Butler Henderson also looking well-Dukedogs & Manors-have some thoughts on this-will address later (when in better fettle ) -have one or two bat jokes you might enjoy (really) -lovely shots of Rood Aston Hall-especially with the `66 at her shoulder and a wonderful set of the Duke coming back to life-Thumbs Up [tup]Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]....

ERIC-A cracking selection of 2727-detail close-ups-the biz !!-nice one mate !!

Right-thats part one done-Leon,another round I think please-good man !!  

Had a sucessfull day with the camera again today-was small Hannah`s school sports day-as well as plenty of pix of her competing also managed a few of my choice of MILF`s (teenage acronym for "Moms I would like to spend time with") without anybody noticing-and a bunch of honeys they are too Whistling [:-^]-hey-it`s my age O.K---

O.K-back with part two A.S.A.P-lots I want to comment on there as well (DAN for example )suspect it won`t be tonight-been a long day in the sun-have just looked in the mirror and appear to be a sort of blotchy bright pink colour-may be the drink,who knows...

Sleep well chaps,take care

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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:03 PM

Good evening Leon,a nice large pint of Rickard's red if you don't mind,actually why not just use my bottomless stein.Big Smile [:D] I'll leabe another twenty for a later round as well Thumbs Up [tup].

Tom-I've got an odd work sched. this week but I shall endevour to fill inn where possible Thumbs Up [tup]Neat url, on of the reasons I can't get into soccer or football ( whatever your name choice ) always seems to be wierdness around the various Euro or world cup competitions.

Loved the shots of the old cars. Where are the train shots ?Whistling [:-^]Mischief [:-,] I have to say that I loved the ACL material, did not love the pics of the purple and silver locomotives though. I've said it before but purple does not belong on locomotives,the only thing that would have been worse would have been if they owned BL2's and painted them that way.Shock [:O]

Nice to hear book relay three has begun Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick-Great sence of humour as always,I will most definatly now need therapy over that Joan Rivers comment. Keith Richards could be a kissing cousin.Shock [:O]

Shane-Will certainly keep you informed of the book release.It's one I'm looking forward to.

Dan-Great to see you back in form,some neat urls as well Thumbs Up [tup] odd I didn't get the wide page Alien [alien] forum glitch I guess.

Pete-Not good not remembering things when you head out to the pub. I guess we sahll ahve to limit your intake of the hard ciders and ales. Only pale ales now for you,make a note Boris.

 Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Phuster,I do hop you decide to set a spell with us. I'll see what we can do with the Niagara,photo's for you.

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Posted by Gunneral on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:58 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!Yeah!! [yeah]

To Rob, Pete, Eric, Shane, Nick, Dan and Captain Tom, having a frustrating day of it here due to internet problems caused by our 1st big winter storm from the DEEP SOUTH. Just lost a post, "AGAIN", acknowledging all your great info and pix and general conversation.Banged Head [banghead] Lost my internet connection for 1 1/2hrs as well, just to top things off!Grumpy [|(] Will try again tomorrow when hopefully things have got back to normal again. Better make this short and sweet just in case.Confused [%-)]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Phuster. Nice to meet you, hope you can join in with all our fun here.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:42 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!

Leon, good to see you again! Just a Tui tonight, please

Trouble to get in here. It took forever and I had to try several times before I finally made it. Hope everything will work now.

Tom –  I agree with you, Tuesdays are kind of blah days.
Many soccer fans are that stupid, as described on that link. Most likely too much too drink. I think they are haveing the European Championship in soccer going on right now. That is why there are Dutch fans in Basel. Basel itself is a nice city. I’ve been there a number of times. It’s on the border of Switzerland, Germany and France. Lots of streetcars and trains.

No, the RV does not come with its own fuel tanker, but it comes with a large sum of cash for the same purpose. Here is a photo of it, parked outside “my” Cracker Barrel.





Thanks for the info on MoT’s plans for the lower area. Looking forward to more details whenever you learn about them.

So you ordered your own copy of Steel Rails to Victory. I remember when I found that book in a book store in London, I just had to buy it.

Cars! With snow outside!Shock [:O] I don’t remember the snow. A nice shot of that beautiful De Soto 1957! But my very favorite is the 1958 De Soto, see link.

http://www.turbinecar.com/brochures/58Desoto/page2-9.htm

DL –  Interesting photos of those class 50 locomotives!Question [?] The front on 50035 is painted differently and looks like a different locomotive. But checking the details shows that they all are the same.

CM3 –  I just bid on a Locomotive Cyclopedia from 1944. I would like to cover EMD’s first F-diesels. I’ll let you know how it goes.

Pete –  Headlights are visible from within a certain angle and that is not enough. I think the color of the front is important.

You are right, that Alton & Southern steam locomotive needs a lot of work to get back to what it once looked like. It’s all about money. I hope they have enough.

 

#12 again.

 

Never heard ‘Dolly’ for a signal before! Always learning something new here.

Rolling Rendezvous in the RV? Hmm, I guess it depends on how many beds it has. Something to think about. If and when I win it.

Very nice steam photos.Thumbs Up [tup] A big thank you to Alan!! Nice to see him in the third photo! He is standing in front of my locomotive, the Night Owl!!! Or is that the name of the train? I guess it is.

Nick –  Glad you liked the photos. #2727 is a very nice looking locomotive.

Rob –  I agree with you about the soccer fans and Euro and World cups! I just don’t understand what they are trying to prove.

Allan –  Sorry to learn that you are having more trouble with your internet connection and at the same time have a winter storm. Hope it will work better next time!

Phuster –  Hope you decide to join us!!Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

 

 

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Posted by DL - UK on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:53 AM

Hello Tom and all in

I'll check the breakfast menu again please, just a light breakfast for me today.

Pete - you must very much regret having lost your note books. It's strange to think of routes like LSWR Exeter main line being in the hands of powerful machines like 50s now they are DMU only. Presumably on the Glasgow run you mention they did a loco change at Crewe like in the days when the route was mixed steam / electric during the transition period. To see a loco change in a station in the UK is now very rare itself of course. How times change!

I recall seeing my first 158 on the railway line at the end of the road I lived in when a student - on the Sheffield route. I was quite impressed as they were the first air conditioned unit of the ‘Sprinter generation'. However, I must say they are uncomfortable as the seating is too cramped, and air conditioning makes it quieter inside - which only serves to force you to have to listen to inane mobile phone conversations and other annoying interruptions. A friend of mine worked on 158 design and construction when at BREL (hope he did not do the seats!).

I've decided the 156 units are my favourite DMUs from that generation. The 158s I mention desperately need to go for total interior refurbs, when the seating could be improved if there was a will. BR would have done refurbs by now I'm sure - as you say they are 20 years old and should have been done 5 years back.

Skegness specials seem to be top and tailed by Class 47s. Or the trial one on late May bank holiday was - talk is of Friday / Sat / Monday services in school hols using this set.

Glad to read you actually have a copy of Platform Souls. Hope you enjoy it and can report back. The paperback does have the model train on it - the hardback is better as the dust cover is an old grainy B&W pic taken of the author as a young lad sitting on the front of a duck 6 or similar during a shed bunk - which better reflects the flavour of the book, as I don't recall much if anything in the book about modelling. Do recommend Parallel Lines to Alan (or the pub book 'The Longest Crawl').

I'd never heard of the DP2 - so thanks for that - I read more here - nice pic - of course it is in a Deltic body so ‘under disguise'.

http://www.therailwaycentre.com/Pages%20Loco/Recognition%20loco/Illus_DP2.html

CM3 - looks like you enjoyed that book extract too. Yes, Class 50s went under various livery schemes over the years.

Tom - enjoyed those classic car pics (complemented by Eric's superb brochure link)

Nick - look forward to reading your comments on my other post when you have the time! Sounds like you have been busy with the camera!

Rob - I think Tom is the main victim of the wide page phenomena - must be a 'puter thing!

Allan - good luck - irregular web connections are a real hassle. I guess you know the advice Tom usually provides - read site, go off line, prepare response on word processor ‘off line' and save it - go back to site and up load prepared response - this minimises time on web site that may go wrong when connection drops out, and if you saved it ion the word processor you have it ready again - but we've all fallen foul of not following this advice! I expect you have learned all that the hard way!

Regards to all

DL

 

 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:03 AM

<KCS FP9A at KCity Union Station - personal foto>

Wednesday's Witticism

Nerve succeeds.

G'day Gents!

Mid-week once again as the humidity ‘n high temps have returned to mid-continent USA. <phew> It's was a comfortable spring, aside from the rains that is. The temps were most cooperative, but now it's summer ‘n summer it will be! <yikes>

The aroma of our special blend coffee is in the air - fresh pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n of course our Menu Board lists some fine <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts>! So, let's get a move on, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Comments from the Proprietor

<repeat> Help wanted! I'll be away from the bar from mid-day today ‘til Friday morning. Pete will also be away for a wee bit longer. So, we need the GoR - AND - our PPG <periphery guys> to step up the plate. Only asking for ONE daylite Post to help out.

If you can, try to space ‘em out so that they aren't bunched into a knot . . . thanx! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Especially asking for those who routinely "peek in," but say nothing to drop off a comment or three - maybe even a foto! Wow!! [wow]

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Keeping track!

216 fotos from my 2008 Canada Rail Odyssey . . . the end!

199 fotos from Rendezvous III

. . . more to follow!

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Tuesday - June 24th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 45 - Dan <DL-UK> at 7:48 AM <1:48 GMT>: An early-morning < I3> Post from our Resident Sherwood Forest Connection! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup] Good to see you back at the bar in more frequent fashion. Thumbs Up [tup]

Email sent your way.

Enjoyed that quote - made me think of many a rail trip where there was so much to view, but so little time to capture it all. Nicely done! Bow [bow] Platform Souls appears to be a book that would be a hit with our crew . . .

Am hoping you can help us out during daylite on Thursday <tomorrow!>

Appreciate your return to the bar! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

Page 45 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:33 AM: "Show me the money!" <Jerry Maquire> . . . Yeah, seems like virtually all things we enjoy as diversions are indeed about <aboot for Rob> the money! But we do ‘em anyway, eh Question [?]

Interleague discussions aren't really off the table - just makes my blood pressure rise! <yikes> In all seriousity <my word - go ahead ‘n steal it Rob!> we see the imbalanced schedule of the NFL - NBA - ‘n NHL. All teams are not facing the same competition. Now baseball has embraced this <crap> . . . so if we're going that route - why not just disband the so-called leagues and throw ‘em all in the stew with 162 games against "whoever" Question [?] Banged Head [banghead]

You suggested that book for me to read in order to send me into orbit! <geesh> Only kidding - appreciate the reference. Thumbs Up [tup] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Still grinning over that Groan-O-Meter "special" got a good laff at our Haus! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Thanx for the visit, quarters ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 45 - phuster at 1:57 PM: New guy popped in! Brought his own brew . . . a first ‘round this joint. Anyway, let's see if he comes back for his free drink! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] OH-FISH-UL welcomes given on 2nd visit!

Page 45 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:16 PM: Our Bar Chandler has returned to his "slot" - but not for long! He'll be away for the next two days - so let's get some daylite help ‘round here! Thumbs Up [tup]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to our get together ‘n hope the weather cooperates. Fortunately, the Missouri River isn't going to be a problem for our round trip to KCity . . . that surely wasn't the case back in '96, the year of the "Great Floods." And here we are again - but at least not as bad ‘round here as then. <phew>

I'm not so sure that a Rolling Rendezvous in an RV is a good idea. If you thought things were cramped in a double bedroom aboard the train, RVs ain't any better. But an interesting thought - north to Alaska here we come! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Sooooooo, just what IS IT with you ‘n "my other Thread" Question [?] <geesh> Only asking for ONE foto - just a measly one when there's been a drought between Posts . . . <groan>

I see the "censor" gotcha with reference to Dick Van D-y-k-e - the absurdity of it all makes one want to laff, laff, laff. As if the kids of today haven't "discovered" cable TV. Yeah, right . . . <nonsense>

Steamers with descriptions are <top shelf> - as always! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

As always, enjoyed our brief chats on Tuesday . . .

Many thanx for the visit, fotos ‘n ROUND! Yeah!! [yeah]

Page 45 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:07 PM <1:07 AM Wednesday GMT>: It's always a good evening when our Resident Brit in Wales shows up <aka: Londoner in Wales - Mighty Man - ‘n good friend of the bar!> Anyway, good to see ya, Mate! <clink>

Given the time differences ‘n work schedules, anything you can do to help out ‘round here on late afternoons will be appreciated for today ‘n the ‘morrow! Yeah!! [yeah] Just ONE visit requested on each day if possible . .  thanx!

I've not acquired the taste for Tequila - but love the song! <grin>

Definitely can relate to the music of youth - whatever others think of it, for those "into" the beat - it was something super-special, eh Question [?] I still get "moved" when the old Rhythm ‘n Blues - and - Rock ‘n Roll from the early 50s gets played. Bring it on! Yeah!! [yeah] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Still awaiting that Email regarding your loooooooooong absence from the bar way back when . . . it must be quite a story, eh Question [?]

<phew> Frightened me with that acronym . . . thought you were gonna . . . but you didn't! Thanx, Mate! <grin> And it ain't just a teenage acronym . . . <uh oh>

No need to Email those aircraft fotos - drop off here . . . we know you'll not abuse our Rule of Six or going bonkers with Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic] stuff. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

A fine < I3 > Post, chat ‘n appreciation for the good cheer - and - ROUND! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 45 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:03 PM: Pleased that our Resident Ontario Connection could make it "in" on this evening . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Only requesting ONE DAYLITE Post on today during the afternoon - and - Thursday morning or afternoon! Do what you're able, Mate . . . thanx . . . Bow [bow]

Seems we have another thing in common - I've never gotten "into" Euro-soccer <worldwide - except for here!> or what they call "football." Of course, it's a huge, huge sport - but it bores the Dickens outta me. Sorry, Brits! <uh oh> Now Rugby is a different matter - ruff, tuff ‘n a man's game, fer sure, fer sure. Faint of heart need not show up, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Much appreciation for the visit here ‘n over on "my other Thread!"  . . . bucks for a ROUND deserves a Bow [bow]!

Page 45 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:58 PM <5:58 PM Wednesday NZ time>: And to make our evening complete, a visit from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Still not in complete understanding of your "lost" Posts . . . if they are on your WP, how do they get "lost" Question [?] I can see it if you are typing directly onto the Forums - but that's never a good idea, Mate. Sorry you are having these problems . . . but do appreciate your sticking it out with us! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

And we're always interested in hearing about SNOW Yeah!! [yeah]! I'm on the way . . .

Thanx for the ROUND too! <KaChing> <KaChing>

Wednesday - June 25th:

Page 45 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:42 AM <11:42 PM Tuesday, Sandbox time>: Methinks you've got it "right" regarding the RV ‘n petrol! If one can "afford" the RV one can "afford" the gasoline - but then again, a FREE RV should come with FREE petrol! <grin> Looks like a beauty - good luck! Thumbs Up [tup]

DeSotos were fine cars ‘n it doesn't seem all that long ago that they were seen regularly on the roads. <I'm O-L-D> <groan> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Nice link! Thumbs Up [tup]

I think we all know that there are more locomotives awaiting restoration funding than there are funds. Kinda like there are more stray animals needing TLC than people willing to give it, eh Question [?]

You'll be pleased to know that the Can-Am City Subway System <CACSS> is nearing completion . . . got the wiring finished last evening for the signals ‘n automatic station stop controls. Now the trains stop at the station for a pre-determined amount of time <adjustable> along with signal lights that remain on while the trains are stopped AND change color when the direction of the trains are reversed. Looking good with the 3rd rail, etc. Have some trash cans ‘n newspaper stands to MAKE. Yeah, these things are darned-near microscopic metal etched gizmos requiring the patience of a Saint to complete with trimming, painting ‘n decal placement. I have way too many to work on - but I'll get A-ROUNDTUIT! Oh my arthritic fingers . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Fotos at a later date . . .

Many thanx for your support ‘n < I3 > Post! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 45 - Dan <DL-UK> at 4:53 AM <10:53 AM GMT>: Wow!! [wow] Our Resident Sherwood Forest Connection is on a roll - almost like olde tymes, eh Question [?] Thumbs Up [tup]

Regarding the Wide Page Phenom: All ‘puters do not have the same settings insofar as characters per line are concerned. So, when an unbroken string of characters comes across that is too long for the setting - <voila> the Wide Page Phenom occurs. How do I know this Question [?] With two operating ‘puters in the Haus, one does ‘n one does not. Plus, others have mentioned it from time to time. <geesh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

DMUs ‘n 158 vs 156 units . . . words are interesting things, eh Question [?] The untrained might be thinking about cars rather than class of unit! I'd dearly luv to see a passenger train with a string of cars like that! Wow!! [wow] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanx for the fine < I3 > Post ‘n chat! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:37 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Pete - I am very much interested in reading Platform Souls.

"Pocket Rocket?"  He played in the NHL for Montreal yrs ago -remember him well; I know, Rob it was b4 your time. 

2-6-0s operated on the Boston and Maine right up until the end of steam. 

Alan exists - with a black bag; I suspected as much.

Nick - Joan Rivers comment (yikes!)  I never really considered the resemblance (yikes again). 

You have a factory-installed I-Pod as well?  Thought I was the only one.  Reminds me of what somebody said about a fellow miner, "He does whatever the Rice Krispies tell him in the morning." 

School sports day - we call ‘em "field days" in this part of the world - lots of fun for the younger set and an excuse for the older folks to "guard the coolers," tell lies, etc., etc.  You'd enjoy it.

Rob - ACL purple was not all that bad.  In fact it went pretty well with their passenger cars.  Later they switched to black/yellow livery which became SCL colors.    I see where Barry Melrose has gone back into coaching - I wish him luck.  Anyway the NHL has some folks who are definitely not slaves to fashion.  Grapes and Melrose both come to mind here (lol).

Allan - Snowstorm from the south - conjures up thoughts of Antarctica.  Computers are great when they work.

Eric - Nice RV.  Let's see you'll need to tow a water buffalo for desert trips as well as a fuel cart.  Those beasts get 7-8 mpg, but who's counting?  1944 is a good Cyc choice; hope you win.

DL - Thanks for information and comments.  If you can find any books by Don Ball, you would truly enjoy his writing.  They should be fairly accessible.

OSP sent car pictures - that was a nice exhibit.

Glad to hear that the subway system progresses.  Safe travels to you and Batman.  Old People's MTV this morning said that rain, etc. would be to the north of where you'll be heading.

Will try and look in later today to keep things going.

Work safe

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:28 AM

G'day Gents!

Good to see CM3 Shane "in" for his AM "slot" . . .  

Here's something for our OPTIONAL Toy 'n Model Trains Day (formerly Pike Perspectives Day!) that was first Posted on Jan 11th, 2006 . . . Page 217 of the Original Thread!

 

<click to enlarge>

 

Enjoy!Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:22 AM

G'day Gents!

Found that Pete's train, listed on the Amtrak website, is running nearly an hour LATE! <how unusual> Sooooooo, here's another from Rendezvous III fotos . . .

NOTE: Day Three at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <MoT, Kirkwood> . . .

"Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous III - St. Louis, MO 2008 - Day Three

More from the Earl C. Lindburg Automobile Center

(200) 1963 Chrysler turbine - still operational - only 55 produced

(201)1966  Covette convertible

(202) Bobby Darin's "Dream car" customized beauty - completed in 1960

(203) 1976 Cadillac 2-door coupe

(204) 1941 Cadillac 4-door sedan

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That's IT from the MoT!

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More to follow  . . .  but the end is in sight! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:13 PM

Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

First law of the railroad is "Late trains always get later."  I assume that Vito used the 41 Caddy to get you to the depot - is there a lot of room in the trunk?

See y'all tomorrow a.m.

work safe 

 

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