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BEAUSABREIt's a politicized project.
There are no public works projects that aren't politicized.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
It's a politicized project.
Why can't they just finish the portion of the line they've got under construction to 125mph standards, sign it over to Amtrak for "El Capitan" service and call it a day.
Facebook political edginess is leaking in here again.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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OvermodNow we'll never get airline-competitive service...
Silly boy, that was never the purpose. It was to line the pockets of the unions, contractors and especially, the consultants (they have consultants to run the consultants), not to build a worthless, unneeded toy for the upper middle class
BaltACDSince 'high speed fastballs' have been brought into the equation...
Since 'high speed fastballs' have been brought into the equation.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqidD7kVnxY
MidlandMikeI'm not sure I understand what you are saying. I can't imagine you mean that pitchers are throwing at 300 mph?
The story 'misquoted' the top speed as 2220mph, and then attempted to 'humanize' that number by noting that it was two and a half times as fast as a pitcher's fastball. It's amusing to see how much greater than Mach 1 that resulting fastball speed would be... I continue to mourn the lack of proofreading skills in some current newsworker communities.
With regard to the 'budget surplus': I limped back to Reunions a couple of weeks ago, and the University president noted in passing that the multibillion-dollar endowment went up 46% last year. (Someone might compare the current value with the BNSF market cap...)
I stopped caring about the California HSR when the decision was made to single-track the expensively-made structure -- that telegraphs just how many trains are actually anticipated to run. We already understood from the number of stops in the Central Valley that true HSR sustained speed wasn't going to happen.
In my not-humble opinion a practical 'corridor' service should have followed the I-5 route, with regional links to the system between the major service points, and the inland regions given 125-mph PRIIA-compliant service to start. Now we'll never get airline-competitive service...
CMStPnP I read that California had over a $100 Billion Budget Surplus in 2022.
I read that California had over a $100 Billion Budget Surplus in 2022.
I believe that was a projected budget surplus. In the recent past, the huge budget surpluses came from much higher than normal capital gains. I suspect that the revenue jump seen in the early part of the year may not hold up for the rest of the year.
BaltACD blue streak 1 Article about construction in central valley. Guess the speed reported. No wonder it costs so much. Latest timeline on Central Valley leg of CA High-Speed Rail project (msn.com) I will say the author of the article has really increased the speed of HSR - 2220 MPH what is that Mach 3 or 4? The nay sayers on every construction project of any size say it should have been completed yesterday and it should have cost half or less of what it is actually costing. It makes little difference what the big project is. California HSR is a victim of this thought process. With 21 Million or more car trips between LA and SF on a yearly basis and I-5 being a congested mess for those trips - High Speed service can really carve out business from the frustrations of all those car trips.
blue streak 1 Article about construction in central valley. Guess the speed reported. No wonder it costs so much. Latest timeline on Central Valley leg of CA High-Speed Rail project (msn.com)
Latest timeline on Central Valley leg of CA High-Speed Rail project (msn.com)
I will say the author of the article has really increased the speed of HSR - 2220 MPH what is that Mach 3 or 4?
The nay sayers on every construction project of any size say it should have been completed yesterday and it should have cost half or less of what it is actually costing. It makes little difference what the big project is. California HSR is a victim of this thought process. With 21 Million or more car trips between LA and SF on a yearly basis and I-5 being a congested mess for those trips - High Speed service can really carve out business from the frustrations of all those car trips.
Thank you for injecting some common sense and facts in this thread.
OvermodThe astounding thing is that modern pitchers are throwing only two and a half times slower than that Mach level. That was not at all the fastball speed when I was a kid.
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. I can't imagine you mean that pitchers are throwing at 300 mph?
CMStPnPI read that California had over a $100 Billion Budget Surplus in 2022. You know they are going to blow it all vs rainy day fund or tax cut of any kind so I wonder how much will be channeled to this project of that $100 Billion.
It wouldn't surprise me if they use the money to build a wall along the Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona borders so frustrated California residents can't escape.
https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/
I read that California had over a $100 Billion Budget Surplus in 2022. You know they are going to blow it all vs rainy day fund or tax cut of any kind so I wonder how much will be channeled to this project of that $100 Billion. Granted California has other more important looming issues like lack of new water reservoirs and repeated water shortages or water draw downs from the old reservoirs they have. However, if past history is any indication they will ignore the old problems and redirect the money somewhere else. So maybe the rail project gets some more money? Anybody know?
Use this handy calculator.
BaltACD blue streak 1 Article about construction in central valley. Guess the speed reported. No wonder it costs so much. I will say the author of the article has really increased the speed of HSR - 2220 MPH what is that Mach 3 or 4?
blue streak 1
Article about construction in central valley. Guess the speed reported. No wonder it costs so much. I will say the author of the article has really increased the speed of HSR - 2220 MPH what is that Mach 3 or 4?
That of course depends on the air temperature. Sea level, 59 F /20 C is about 746 MPH. Cannot access my charts for other temps.
Now a wild guess with temp -40 mach .80 is about 460 kts air speed . you do the math
The astounding thing is that modern pitchers are throwing only two and a half times slower than that Mach level. That was not at all the fastball speed when I was a kid.
The thing I want someone to do is calculate the acceleration rate involved in reaching that peak speed between the stations listed.
blue streak 1Article about construction in central valley. Guess the speed reported. No wonder it costs so much. Latest timeline on Central Valley leg of CA High-Speed Rail project (msn.com)
Article about construction in central valley. Guess the speed reported. No wonder it costs so much.
In honor of the new Top Gun movie, the Cal. HSR group decided to show that jets have nothing on trains when it comes to speed.
York1 John
Gramp I wonder how many acres have been taken out of food production for this project?
I wonder how many acres have been taken out of food production for this project?
Not much. The big projects are thru cities like Fresno. A lot of potential agricultural land is not being used. Someone can check, but I understand the project was not granted the almost unlimited eminent domain rights that CalTrans has for freeways.
Contractor complains that his work is delayed because over 500 parcels of land have not been acquired.
We have to wonder what the heck? How is it that all land is not already acquired? Land purchase should never be this strung out. Maybe Covid-19 can be somewhat a delaying force but really no excuse. This delay is causing the construction costs to become a money pit.
‘Beyond comprehension’: Contractor of California’s high-speed rail project says large chunk of land still has not been acquired - Railway Track and Structures (rtands.com)
rdamonThey are still working out the endpoints.
In this respect, I think they should also be working with Brightline West on sharing of ROW into LA. Why have two seperate projects over the same distance? It just seems to make sense from both a private business standpoint as well as a taxpayer perspective for those two projects to collude on this portion of the route.
They are still working out the endpoints.
https://youtu.be/UaMYg5Ja5Wo
Thats interesting. I want to see it used vs in construction state. How far off is that date still?
Great video showing construction updates for 'Construction Package 4'
https://youtu.be/sa-X1qqxvJU
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