As farz as I remember, there was no Marshal Plan for Japan. Just Europe.
Overmod: Like Joe, you don't have any actual data to show that loose car train sets plus requisite engines would be significantly cheaper on any relevant statistic, such as seat-mile.
243129 charlie hebdo As usual, your responses lack any data or even a citation with data to back up your opinion, which differs from what the sources mentioned say. Your other demeaning reply is not worth a response. As usual? Shall I post all the questions that you have run from? When confronted for proof of your allegations you flee. Data you say? Common sense and economics are my "data". The same end being achieved for less money.
charlie hebdo As usual, your responses lack any data or even a citation with data to back up your opinion, which differs from what the sources mentioned say. Your other demeaning reply is not worth a response.
As usual? Shall I post all the questions that you have run from? When confronted for proof of your allegations you flee.
Data you say? Common sense and economics are my "data". The same end being achieved for less money.
"Common sense" is not data or empirical. There are no econometrics in your posts. You make assertions without any evidence. Pure opinion. And bullying when folks don't bow down to your expertise. As to the United Tech trains: they may well have been junk, but just because you ran some does not make you an expert. I have driven cars for 56 years, but that doesn't make me an expert on automotive engineering.
What's a Grumman F5?
I think it was the "freedom" fighter, sold to less developed nations. It was developed by Northrop, which much later merged with Grumman to form Northrop Grumman.
charlie hebdoOvermod: Like Joe, you don't have any actual data to show that loose car train sets plus requisite engines would be significantly cheaper on any relevant statistic, such as seat-mile.
I'm putting it together. It may take a while to generate actual cost data for the Liberty trains, and while I will provide what I find for the pure European and Asian alternatives, it remains to be seen what the 'allocated' cost of 'buy American' versions will actually be.
If the common-sense costing is in fact as radically different as I think it is, it shouldn't be that difficult to show it in figures too.
charlie hebdoI think it was the "freedom" fighter, sold to less developed nations. It was developed by Northrop, which much later merged with Grumman to form Northrop Grumman.
Actually, upon reflection, I was thinking more of the F-20 (Tigershark), which was kind of like an advanced-technology version of the F5.
These were very small and light aircraft, very nimble, relatively inexpensive to purchase and to maintain. Improvements in "miniaturization" in electronics worked to the advantage of the concept, and Northrop Grumman thought, with a great deal of justification in my opinion, that there would be a hearty market around the world for a tough, fully advanced fighter aircraft that didn't require an enormous amount of capital to buy and an enormous staff to keep flying.
To my knowledge not even one F-20 was ever sold.
I know what a Northrup F5 was, I just didn't know what Grumman had to do with it. It was developed from the T38 Talon two seat jet trainer. The F20 never sold because General Dynamics had just come out with the F16, a much better plane that was relatively cheap and had interoperability with the major western air forces.
daveklepper As farz as I remember, there was no Marshal Plan for Japan. Just Europe.
You are correct there was no "Marshal Plan"[sic] for Japan. It was posted earlier in the thread that SCAP oversaw the occupation and reconstruction of Japan.
charlie hebdo And bullying when folks don't bow down to your expertise.
Where do I 'bully'?
charlie hebdoUnited Tech trains: they may well have been junk, but just because you ran some does not make you an expert.
They were United Aircraft trains and they were junk and I was an expert in operating them. As Chairman Mao said: "All genuine knowledge originates in direct experience." Which is something you do not have.
United Aircraft became United Technologies. One and the same. And since you are neither a mechanical nor electrical engineer, your opinion is limited.
charlie hebdo United Aircraft became United Technologies. One and the same. And since you are neither a mechanical nor electrical engineer, your opinion is limited.
My "opinion is limited"? How can you make that assessment when you have absolutely no experience in railroad operations?
Overmod To my knowledge not even one F-20 was ever sold.
The only one of 3 left is hanging from the roof in a museum in LA. I liked the commercials with Chuck Yeager and the Tigershark for AC Delco.
During the period that the Turbotrains ran on the NEC NY - Boston, I rode them a number of times and appreciated them. Siting behind the engineer in the pod at the front of the train was a treat. The fastest I saw on the speedometer was only 110 mph. I do not recall anything faster.
If the (currently?) unusable high-speed capabilities of the Acela replacements means use of equipment and technology already in production elsewhere, this high speed capability may not mean sizeable cost increases over 160mph or 125mph equipment.
As I stated before in an analogy, your experience as a train driver is like my claiming expertise about the mechanics and engineering and metallurgy of the car I drive.
And quoting the monster responsible for the deaths of millions of Chinese as some sort of expert reveals how bizarre your Weltanschauung truly is.
charlie hebdoAnd quoting the monster responsible for the deaths of millions of Chinese as some sort of expert reveals how bizarre your Weltanschauung truly is.
So says the guy who names himself after a mass murder.
charlie hebdoAs I stated before in an analogy, your experience as a train driver is like my claiming expertise about the mechanics and engineering and metallurgy of the car I drive.
I claim expertise in performance and operation. The product is not feasibile on the NEC.
You probably deemed the Edsel a viable product.
243129 So says the guy who names himself after a mass murder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo
Backshop 243129 So says the guy who names himself after a mass murder. HUH? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo
HUH?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting
So I can't mention the World Trade Center either, since that would remind people of September 11th?
Look at the type of magazine it was, and why it was targeted instead...
Backshop So I can't mention the World Trade Center either, since that would remind people of September 11th?
Now you are being ridiculous.
243129 Backshop So I can't mention the World Trade Center either, since that would remind people of September 11th? Now you are being ridiculous.
No. You are once again displaying your ignorance.
243129 Now you are being ridiculous.
charlie hebdo 243129 Backshop So I can't mention the World Trade Center either, since that would remind people of September 11th? Now you are being ridiculous. No. You are once again displaying your ignorance.
Awww poor Charlie got his feelings hurt and responds in Trumpian fashion while Backstreet displays Pence like adulation.
So how about we get back to the original subject?
The old "when you're losing an argument badly, reply with insults" ploy. I've seen it before.
Backshop The old "when you're losing an argument badly, reply with insults" ploy. I've seen it before.
That seems to be Joe's go to around here.
An "expensive model collector"
No insult intended just pointing out a fact.
n012944 Backshop The old "when you're losing an argument badly, reply with insults" ploy. I've seen it before. That seems to be Joe's go to around here.
And here we have another who feels the need to insert himself.
BackshopLook at the type of magazine it was, and why it was targeted instead...
... and remember the circumstances that led to the choice of charlie hebdo as a username. Think of it as overcoming imprudent moderation 'termination' policy and it's easier to understand.
I tried to get 'the user formerly known as wanswheel' to adopt the monicker 'Wade Hoagland' to make a similar point at Kalmbach ... but he simply opted to remain out of the forum until the company saw the error of its ways.
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