NKP guy How do people explain the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspapers? Another conspiracy? No one's ever given me a good answer to this question.
Wouldn't matter - not a legal documentary proof. (How far would you expect to get, applying for a driver's license or a passport, if you produced only the newspaper clipping and then became indignant when the clerk wouldn't take it?)
To this white male it was obvious from the get-go that the "birther controversy" was an attempt to de-legitimize the first black President. How do you think it seems to our fellow (African American) citizens?
All too much of the "controversy" was just that, or was used to further some other agenda, including often a witless racist agenda. I would like to think that wouldn't apply to some of the court cases that attempted to compel release of or access to the 'original', but there again even if the motivation weren't 'nullifying the election by other means' it became easy to spin responses as if it had been.
My concern with it was strictly a Constitutional issue, and I confess that the most dumbfounding thing about the certificate we saw was that it was so incompetent (with all the supposed resources of the Democratic party and the government-in-being) in its execution if unassailable proof of 'native birth' was the object.
I stopped bothering with it when it became reasonably clear how thoroughly the fix was in. And how much of the objection to him was not based on truth, but on bias and worse. I'd like to be able to say the second was more important than the first, but my whole interest in the first place was solely a matter of Constitutional principle.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/
wanswheel,
Thanks for that post. I am fascinated by what you find to post on here. I liked Petula Clark's songs but had not heard the CMW song before. Again thanks.
Please stay on topic and discuss train-related material in this and all threads. Thank you. Enjoy your week.
Angela Pusztai-Pasternak, Production Editor, Trains Magazine
Excerpt from Historic American Buildings Survey (1967)
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/hh/item/fl0181/
Henry M. Flagler, the man almost solely responsible for developing the resort economy of the State, introduced the Spanish Revival to Florida. In 1884, he sent the fledgling architects, John Carrere and Thomas Hastings, to Spain for two years to gather impressions and ideas before beginning the design of the Ponce de Leon Hotel in St. Augustine. Flagler's commission launched an important architectural firm and established a style that was to dominate Florida resort architecture.
Palm Beach was the most exclusive of the Florida resort communities in the early 20th century. Addison Mizner made the Spanish Revival style de rigueur for palatial building there. For their wealthy clients, he and Marion Sims Wyeth designed numerous Mediterranean villas with patios to take advantage of the winter sun and spacious rooms for lavish entertaining. Mar-a-Lago is one of the grandest of these mansions and is the only one still resided in by the original owner. All of its elaborate decoration and fine furnishings remain intact. It is still surrounded by its landscaped grounds including a golf course on the shores of Lake Worth and a bathing beach on the Atlantic Ocean. Together the house and grounds provide an excellent picture of winter resort life in Palm Beach prior to the Depression…
The site, the style, and a large amount of the decor was personally chosen by Marjorie Merriweather Post (then Mrs. Edward F. Hutton), who had the house built. After searching the area south of Worth Avenue for many months with her agent, Lytle Hull, Mrs. Post found a property which was suitable for the construction of the kind of residence she wanted. The property, overgrown with lush vegetation, consisted of approximately seventeen acres on a coral reef located between the Atlantic Ocean and Lake Worth, The reef provided a firm base for the house which was anchored to it with concrete and steel, and has withstood hurricanes and heavy tropical storms over the years. The name Mar-a-Lago means between sea and lake.
https://books.google.com/books?id=nT3fAAAAQBAJ&pg=PR18&dq=%22the+east+coast+railway+line+reached+west+palm+beach+in+1894%22+mar-a-lago&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJmLjo45zTAhXKjFQKHZ8DDjoQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=%22the%20east%20coast%20railway%20line%20reached%20west%20palm%20beach%20in%201894%22%20mar-a-lago&f=true
http://www.chapelhillrail.com/history.html
wanswheel Excerpt from Historic American Buildings Survey (1967) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/hh/item/fl0181/ Henry M. Flagler, the man almost solely responsible for developing the resort economy of the State, introduced the Spanish Revival to Florida. In 1884, he sent the fledgling architects, John Carrere and Thomas Hastings, to Spain for two years to gather impressions and ideas before beginning the design of the Ponce de Leon Hotel in St. Augustine. Flagler's commission launched an important architectural firm and established a style that was to dominate Florida resort architecture. Palm Beach was the most exclusive of the Florida resort communities in the early 20th century. Addison Mizner made the Spanish Revival style de rigueur for palatial building there. For their wealthy clients, he and Marion Sims Wyeth designed numerous Mediterranean villas with patios to take advantage of the winter sun and spacious rooms for lavish entertaining. Mar-a-Lago is one of the grandest of these mansions and is the only one still resided in by the original owner. All of its elaborate decoration and fine furnishings remain intact. It is still surrounded by its landscaped grounds including a golf course on the shores of Lake Worth and a bathing beach on the Atlantic Ocean. Together the house and grounds provide an excellent picture of winter resort life in Palm Beach prior to the Depression… The site, the style, and a large amount of the decor was personally chosen by Marjorie Merriweather Post (then Mrs. Edward F. Hutton), who had the house built. After searching the area south of Worth Avenue for many months with her agent, Lytle Hull, Mrs. Post found a property which was suitable for the construction of the kind of residence she wanted. The property, overgrown with lush vegetation, consisted of approximately seventeen acres on a coral reef located between the Atlantic Ocean and Lake Worth, The reef provided a firm base for the house which was anchored to it with concrete and steel, and has withstood hurricanes and heavy tropical storms over the years. The name Mar-a-Lago means between sea and lake. https://books.google.com/books?id=nT3fAAAAQBAJ&pg=PR18&dq=%22the+east+coast+railway+line+reached+west+palm+beach+in+1894%22+mar-a-lago&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJmLjo45zTAhXKjFQKHZ8DDjoQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=%22the%20east%20coast%20railway%20line%20reached%20west%20palm%20beach%20in%201894%22%20mar-a-lago&f=true http://www.chapelhillrail.com/history.html
In the day of the private railcar, was a spur built from the FEC Main to Mar-a-Lago?
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
No spur. One road. Much water.
https://cotedetexas.blogspot.com/2017/02/mar-lago-before-after-of-new-winter.html
wanswheelNo spur. One road. Much water. https://cotedetexas.blogspot.com/2017/02/mar-lago-before-after-of-new-winter.html
Building bridges is easy, just like health care.
Wanswheel-Incredible links in your postings...what a read! Kudo's
Miningman Wanswheel-Incredible links in your postings...what a read! Kudo's
What do the photos of President Trump's Florida estate have to do with Amtrak's long distance trains?
No, I am not a Trump fan. I did not vote for him or any of the other Presidential candidates in 2016.
Rio Grande Valley, CFI,CFII
JPS1 Miningman Wanswheel-Incredible links in your postings...what a read! Kudo's What do the photos of President Trump's Florida estate have to do with Amtrak's long distance trains? No, I am not a Trump fan. I did not vote for him or any of the other Presidential candidates in 2016.
Henry M. Flagler building the FEC and the opening of Florida to tourism and high roller vacation residences (including some of his own).
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