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Posted by schlimm on Friday, October 28, 2016 5:47 PM

JPS1
Data regarding revenues, costs, etc., as well as ridership numbers, are available in the August Monthly Operating Report. 
 
Waiting until the September 2016 numbers have been published is a better option.  They include one full turn of the annual business cycle, which tends to smooth the impact of seasonal swings.  

Before drawing any hard conclusions about the Silver Star experiment, it would be better to have several years of data for trending purposes.  

 

True.  However, in businesses that attempt to be more attuned to change, two years leaves you behind the switch.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, October 28, 2016 5:58 PM

We still do not have any idea what real sleeper ridership will be if there were enough sleepers..  The difference Meteor / Star for a sleeper roomette tomorrow is $132 NYP - MIA.Taking the August monthly report and multiplying by numer of August Star riders the revenue difference would only be ~$2,000. Year over Year. But Star ridership this august was down %.5%.  Meteor down 1.3%.              Meteor revenue was up 6.3% but Star down 1.8%.    

The number of riders on the Meteor was ~ 19% higher than the STar. A wild guess would indicate that the Star's sleeper passenger traveled further.  But what it all means ?  Have no idea.

Amtrak has refused to disclose Revenue passenger miles for each train. But it does give total system is ~1% less than last year.  Revenue is ~1.2% greater but that does not break out sleepers.

Meteor and Sar had 3 sleepers each and Crescent had 2.  As you can guess Crescent sleeper ridership and revenuee were each ~ 33% less. 

Now once again if during the heavy travel times on certain trains Amtrak could run 4 - 7 sleepers on those trains would that be enough F&B revenue to make diners get close to break even ?  Inquiring minds ? 

The Crescent which only had 2 sleepers

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Posted by PJS1 on Friday, October 28, 2016 6:12 PM

schlimm

 

 
JPS1
Data regarding revenues, costs, etc., as well as ridership numbers, are available in the August Monthly Operating Report. 
 
Waiting until the September 2016 numbers have been published is a better option.  They include one full turn of the annual business cycle, which tends to smooth the impact of seasonal swings.  

Before drawing any hard conclusions about the Silver Star experiment, it would be better to have several years of data for trending purposes.  

 

 

Rio Grande Valley, CFI,CFII

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