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LOCOMOTIVE QUIZ--BOTH CURRENT AND OLDER LOCOMOTIVES
Posted by NP Eddie on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:00 AM

ALL:

I am starting a just for fun "Locomotive Quiz" the same as "Classic Trains" has for miscelanneous topics.

This Class 1 (not in existence now) had five SS40-2's (Super Series) locomotives. 

What were their road numbers? Bonus points for their assigned shop. What made them different than the SD40-2's?

Hint:  I worked along side them in the 1980's.

The person who answers it correctly asks the next question.

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 1:45 PM

 

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Posted by NP Eddie on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 7:57 PM

You win and get to ask the next question.

They were assigned to Northtown Diesel Shop where I worked in the Material Department from 1983-1987. I got paid to watch and be around locomotives. It was there that I saw the 1100 and 1101 which were experimental switchers.

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:59 PM

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:52 AM

L&N's SDP35's (1700-1703) had Locotrol equipment installed in the s/g compartment for unit train service.

SDP35 owners:  L&N (1700-1703), SAL (1100-1119, later to SCL), ACL (550, later to SCL), UP (1400-1409)

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Posted by Bryan Jones on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:35 AM

16-567D3A

Thank you Ed. Now for the next question.  In September 1965 the Louisville & Nashville received four SDP35s#1700-1703 to replace and augment ageing E and F passenger units.However L&N passenger service reduction approval  from the regulatory agencies occurred faster than the need for the new passenger power and the units were completed and delivered without steam generators Installed.What did the L&N use the steam boiler compartment on these SDP35s for ?. Also the SDP35 was only operated by four Railroads,three of which through eventual mergers became one road.What Railroads operated SDP35s?.extra credit,what eventually became of,and the duty assigned some of the three merged roads fleet of SDP35s? correct answer gets the next question.

 

Well I was already beaten to the punch regarding the L&N quartet being fitted for Locotrol service and the 4 original purchasers of the model. 

Of the 3 merged roads, the SDP35's were cascaded down into yard and hump service as heavy switchers. Most of these units had the steam generator compartment shortened to provide extra room on the rear platform. 4 were recieved a major rebuild (along with 4 SD35's) and were assigned to hump service at Rice Yard in Waycross,GA. The units had the 2500hp, turbocharged 567D replaced with 1500hp, roots blown 567BC and the electrical system was rebuilt and simplified. They were classed as H15. One survives on the Squaw Creek Southern RR, which is owned by Respondek Railroad. 

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:56 AM

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Posted by NorthWest on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 PM

Ed, thanks for starting this thread. It should be a lot of fun.

What has worked well in the past on the CT questions is to only have one question going at a time. This reduces confusion and the somewhat inevitable thread drift that is best avoided. Usually, the one who answers the most gets it, or whoever wants it.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:58 AM

I'll go with the next question.  Alco built three versions of its flatnose design.  Provide a model designation and an example of each version.

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Posted by NP Eddie on Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:37 PM

Northwest and all:

Thanks for the compliment. I retired from the NP-BN-BNSF in Minneapolis in August 2004 with 38 years of service.

Regarding the ALCO's: FA's, PA's, and the "Black Maria" what was listed in a recent "Classic Trains". I remember it was an ABA set that was experimental. One unit had major mechanical problems, which causes the entire set to be sent back to the manufacturer.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, February 27, 2015 6:54 AM

Not quite.  The Black Maria cabs had a nose that looked like a bobbed DL-109.

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Posted by DS4-4-1000 on Friday, February 27, 2015 6:55 AM

I'll go with the FA series, the PA series and the "World Locomotive" as ALCO's three flatnoses.

 

The FA1= ALCO DL-204, DL206, DL-208, DL-208A, DL-208B and DL208C

The PA1 = ALCO DL-304, DL-304A and DL-304B

The World Locomotive and its successors = ALCO DL-212, DL-500, DL-500A, DL-500B, DL-500C and DL-500D

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, February 27, 2015 9:59 AM

We have a winner.  DS4-4-1000, you get the next question.

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Posted by DS4-4-1000 on Friday, February 27, 2015 11:01 AM

Let's continue with the flat nose theme.

There were three types of non turbine locomotives operated in regular revenue service in the United States which used a very ALCO like flatnose but were not built by ALCO.  What were they, and on what railroads did they run (including demonstrations)

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Sunday, March 1, 2015 2:36 AM

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Posted by Wizlish on Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:34 PM

16-567D3A
I don't have the answer For the third example.what was it?.anyone..

One of the early-'50s PRR experimental electrics - E2b, perhaps?

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Posted by DS4-4-1000 on Monday, March 2, 2015 6:21 AM

Between the two of you you have identified all three.  Two of the E2b locomotives were used by GE as demonstrators and were used briefly on the Great Northern.  Other sources also place them demonstrating on the Virginian and on the New Haven.  Since 16-567D3A had most of the answer go ahead with the next question.

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Monday, March 2, 2015 9:38 PM

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 6:39 AM

The railroad is Southern Pacific, with GP9's 5872-5891 (original numbers).

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:27 AM

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:03 PM

Just to keep it interesting.  What is the last bulldog nose locomotive built anywhere by EMD or licensee?

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 2:38 AM

If it was in the USA, then it would be the last FL9 built for the New Haven, but possibly Clyde in Australia had a later example.

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Posted by SSW9389 on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 5:27 AM

The last domestic GP9 was Seaboard #1979 which was built the month after the SP order was completed. There were also 10 GP9Bs built for Pennsy after the SP order. 

16-567D3A

, until late 1959 when this Class one ordered the last US built GP9s specifying the low nose.what was the Railroad?

 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 6:37 AM

daveklepper

If it was in the USA, then it would be the last FL9 built for the New Haven, but possibly Clyde in Australia had a later example.

You're getting close, I just need specifics.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:25 AM

Queensland Railways (?) CL class, basically an upgraded F9 with 630 diesel prime mover and six-wheel trucks, last build in 1972, and 15 are still in service somewhere else in Audstralia.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:03 AM

Close enough.  The CL class was built for Commonwealth Railways in 1970, model AT26C, with a 16-645 engine rated at 3000 HP. 

daveklepper, your question.

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:19 AM

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:51 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

Close enough.  The CL class was built for Commonwealth Railways in 1970, model AT26C, with a 16-645 engine rated at 3000 HP. 

daveklepper, your question.

Of course you have the details correct, but I do maintain thaq constructionj did continue until sometime in 1972. You might wish to check this out.C

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 2:41 PM

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Question:   Many readers know I have been urging the saving of the electricals and the electectronics of three AEMy-DC Amtrak locomotives to make a GG-1 operational, using its existing motors on dc and capable of runnning on 60 Hz as well as 25Hz. The question is what other cosmetically-restored locomotive in a railroad museum could also be brought back to life by such a statergy?  

It would have to be another locomotive with an AC transformer in it.

How about that PRR P5 box cab in St. Louis?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:38 AM

Yes, that would also work.   In all cases the transformer would have to be replaced, because 25Hz transformers definitely do not work at 60Hz unless derated to the extent that the loco would barely be able to move itself.  Also, probable cooling flued not environmentally OK healthwise.   New transformers make use of improved metalurgy and would fit OK.   The transformers from the AEM7-DCs would work fine, and only one would be required for the P5, three for a GG1.   There is one other locomotive cospmetically restored that I am thinking about, and while the P5 had at the most three owners, the one I am thinking about had even more.

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