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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:46 AM

samfp1943

Maybe it is just meSigh ...

   But is not the title of this Thread a bit oxy-moronic? Devil

"FEC railway snow plows"   Whistling

Considering the recent weather in the South, this may not be that much of an oxymoron. 

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Posted by GDRMCo on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:54 PM
The Pilbara iron ore railways since the 90s have purchased locos imported from the US with snow plows on both ends no less for service in a part of the world where the rest of the world would need to be under 100' of ice before it snows there. As others have said it's just easier to leave them on as a tool to deflect debris/animals/cars/people on the tracks.

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Posted by seppburgh2 on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:20 PM
Right. Back in the steam day, cast pilots were installed with fold-down couplers to present a clean defective surface to whatever was on the rails. Better to push it aside then run the risk of going over it and derail. Besides, never known when you might be running through two feet of partly cloudy (a tip to the hat of weathermen of past who had no computer models to guide them in their daily forecasts.)
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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:54 PM

We know canadian RRs have plows.  The question is what do new Mexican  locos have ?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, February 16, 2015 2:48 PM

Maybe it is just meSigh ...

   But is not the title of this Thread a bit oxy-moronic? Devil

"FEC railway snow plows"   Whistling

 

 


 

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, February 15, 2015 9:58 PM

I forgot to mention the practice of the crews and regular passengers on the Rock Island's Peoria train in the last months of its operation--there was no diner on the train, and the regular passengers and the crews brought their suppers, and shared their meals after heating them on the engine. One evening, an irregular passenger commented on what was being eaten (it smelled good), and asked what it was. The answer was, "the engineer didn't know, for he came up on it too fast."

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, February 15, 2015 8:49 PM

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  Why don't we call it a cowcatcher?

 

 

Most cows have been caught and shipped to McDonalds.  Trains catch trespassers and vehicles at road crossings these days.  Besides, what would a train and engine crew with a cow that they caught?

 

Take it to the terminal and butcher it--what else? I doubt they would stop to have a barbecue near the scene, don't you?

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:21 PM

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  Why don't we call it a cowcatcher?

Most cows have been caught and shipped to McDonalds.  Trains catch trespassers and vehicles at road crossings these days.  Besides, what would a train and engine crew with a cow that they caught?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:11 PM

Has anyone observed snowplows built the last few years?.  May be that all are the same except for those that have to traverse third rail territory?  GE & EMD the same?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:34 AM

  Why don't we call it a cowcatcher?

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Posted by Kyle on Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:19 AM

While Florida doesn't get snow, they get hurricanes.  Any tropical storm that goes through probably leaves a to of branches and sticks on the right of way, which the plow will push aside.  If the locomotive hits a log, it is most likely better and easier to replace a damaged plow than a pilot.  Plus, wasn't there a blog awhile ago complaining of the idiots in Florida that get on the tracks?

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Posted by fire5506 on Monday, February 2, 2015 9:07 PM

The end sheet is flat and the plow bolts onto it. The brackets are part of the plow. Plows in southern states are more for keeping most debris, cars, etc from balling up under the locomotive. The earlier plows bolted on where the old pilots with foot boards bolted. I've replaced/repaired many of them on the FEC engines.

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Posted by efftenxrfe on Sunday, February 1, 2015 8:20 PM

In 1967, in a post-derailment, to which I had responded, a conversation with an Assistant Supt. I was told the snowplow-pilots were more for deflecting deer, cows, sheep, people, motor-cyles, cars, trucks....you get the (snow) drift...

That was SPT in the mid 60's.

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:16 PM

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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, January 26, 2015 8:22 AM

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Yes, they tend to deflect debris, as they hang lower to the railhead than plain pilots.

 

+1

Probably the thing they do best.  

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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, January 26, 2015 8:21 AM

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blue streak 1

 

 

 

 

 
You may be on the right track.  Could the plows be a structural part of the frame since every RR seems to have ordered them?
 
 

 

 

 

I doubt it. They can be changed out, and some of our yard power don't have plows.

 

+1

They are not structural.

There are regulations on what constitutes a pilot.  I suspect that GE is using the plow to meet the regulation and a plain pilot would be an extra cost item.

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, January 25, 2015 2:03 PM

Yes, they tend to deflect debris, as they hang lower to the railhead than plain pilots.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:42 PM

Are not they useful if something else lands on the RoW?   Abandoned baby carriage, old tires, an old piano?

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:02 AM

Often, snowplows have to be replaced when they hit something, so they are not a part of the frame. However, the plows do have mounts on the pilot to hold the plow that I think are constructed on the frame, and those would need to be cut off to avoid spearing anything in a collision.

As an aside, Tri-Rail's BL36PHs have snowplows, and they are the only purchasers of that Brookville model.

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, January 25, 2015 6:30 AM

blue streak 1

 

 

 

 

 
You may be on the right track.  Could the plows be a structural part of the frame since every RR seems to have ordered them?
 
 

 

I doubt it. They can be changed out, and some of our yard power don't have plows.

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Posted by rambo1 on Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:16 PM

sorry about my spelling blue streak you are right rambo1...

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Posted by rambo1 on Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:12 PM

blue streak you are bouble right rambo 1.. 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, January 24, 2015 7:11 PM

NorthWest

I suspect that they are standard equipment, and a plain pilot would be an extra cost option. Everyone else has ordered their GEVOs with them. Also, plows tend to do better in inevitable grade crossing collisions.

 
You may be on the right track.  Could the plows be a structural part of the frame since every RR seems to have ordered them?
 
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Posted by Leo_Ames on Saturday, January 24, 2015 7:03 PM

If they have or believe that they may someday establish a run through power agreement with someone else, it's likely going to be a requirement by the other party that the locomotive has to have this feature.

So that may be another factor.  

NorthWest

I suspect that they are standard equipment, and a plain pilot would be an extra cost option. 

All they have to do is not attach the snowplow, correct? I don't think there's anything special there in order to not have a snowplow attached. 

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Posted by NorthWest on Saturday, January 24, 2015 1:40 PM

I suspect that they are standard equipment, and a plain pilot would be an extra cost option. Everyone else has ordered their GEVOs with them. Also, plows tend to do better in inevitable grade crossing collisions.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:53 PM

Well you never know, do you?

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FEC railway snow plows
Posted by rambo1 on Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:50 AM

why would that railway have snow plows on their locos? I saw them inthis months trains mag.thanks rambo1..

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