BaltACD: That certainly is reasonable with a wood caboose. Did the same restriction apply when steel cabooses were used?
PA Code § 33.53. Pusher engines. All common carrier railroads operating in this Commonwealth shall promulgate or modify existing operating rules and procedures for the government of their respective employes so as to require that the operation of a pusher engine or engines behind an occupied cabin or caboose car, in train, shall be used subject to the following conditions: (1) If the horsepower to be used by a pusher engine or engines behind a cabin or caboose exceeds 3,500, the train crew shall, before such a move is made, vacate the cabin car and occupy the pusher engine or a cabin car or caboose behind the pusher engine or engines, and the train shall be brought to a stop before the pusher engine or engines are detached. (2) The practice of ‘‘cutting off on the fly’’ pusher engines behind occupied cabin cars shall be limited to those instances in which the horsepower used by the pusher engine does not exceed 3,500.
All common carrier railroads operating in this Commonwealth shall promulgate or modify existing operating rules and procedures for the government of their respective employes so as to require that the operation of a pusher engine or engines behind an occupied cabin or caboose car, in train, shall be used subject to the following conditions:
(1) If the horsepower to be used by a pusher engine or engines behind a cabin or caboose exceeds 3,500, the train crew shall, before such a move is made, vacate the cabin car and occupy the pusher engine or a cabin car or caboose behind the pusher engine or engines, and the train shall be brought to a stop before the pusher engine or engines are detached.
(2) The practice of ‘‘cutting off on the fly’’ pusher engines behind occupied cabin cars shall be limited to those instances in which the horsepower used by the pusher engine does not exceed 3,500.
Makes no difference if wood or steel.
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Helper service system wide is restricted to 15 powered axles On CSX. When DP was introduced it was determined on some coal trains that DP could be ran in the middle. So instead of having three 110 car coal trains with 3 engine per, you have two 165 car trains with 4 engines per train. This also allows the manned pushers to do their thing on the rear too.
Now the 165 car trains have 18 powered axles on the front and 18 in the middle in DP helper service, 3 over the legal limit. But can't have rules getting in the way can we?
rockymidlandrrHelper service system wide is restricted to 15 powered axles On CSX.
Why an odd number of axles? Steam rule holdover? Strange that it isn't a multiple of 4 or 6.
BaltACD: Interesting. I would have thought that steel cabooses would have allowed more HP. Thanks for the information.
NorthWest rockymidlandrr Helper service system wide is restricted to 15 powered axles On CSX. Why an odd number of axles? Steam rule holdover? Strange that it isn't a multiple of 4 or 6.
rockymidlandrr Helper service system wide is restricted to 15 powered axles On CSX.
Only thing I can figure is it will allow you to use a AC engine and one DC engine in helper service (9 and 6 powered axles).
rockymidlandrr NorthWest rockymidlandrr Why an odd number of axles? Steam rule holdover? Strange that it isn't a multiple of 4 or 6. Only thing I can figure is it will allow you to use a AC engine and one DC engine in helper service (9 and 6 powered axles).
NorthWest rockymidlandrr Why an odd number of axles? Steam rule holdover? Strange that it isn't a multiple of 4 or 6.
rockymidlandrr
Excerpt from CSX Timetable for Mountain Sub - Grafton to Cumberland - which authorizes two AC's as allowed Helper power on the grades and potentially more when specifically authorized.
That looks to be a mighty long list of rules.
A lawyer friend-of-the-family once offered that for every warning sticker you see on a consumer product, there had been an accident followed by a lawsuit.
There must have been an accident on that Big Hill for every one of those rules?
If GM "killed the electric car", what am I doing standing next to an EV-1, a half a block from the WSOR tracks?
Paul MilenkovicThat looks to be a mighty long list of rules. A lawyer friend-of-the-family once offered that for every warning sticker you see on a consumer product, there had been an accident followed by a lawsuit. There must have been an accident on that Big Hill for every one of those rules?
More than one! Once is just an accident. More than one is something that is beyond accidental and needs a rule.
oltmannd The Southern used to run what the called "radio" trains from the 70s into the 80s (or 90s?) https://goo.gl/photos/9Hf52pPKn6EtMfyU7
The Southern used to run what the called "radio" trains from the 70s into the 80s (or 90s?)
https://goo.gl/photos/9Hf52pPKn6EtMfyU7
In the photo in "Oltmannd" 's post; the car to the right of the locomotive which looks like a box car [partially lettered: SOUT 905] is the car that contained all of the LOCOTROL radio equipment. These cars were M.U.ed to the remotely controlled locomotives and received the command radio signals from the head end lead locomotive. These lead locomotives had the sending radio equipmemt mounted inside the high short hood. Back in the 1960's thru 1980's these lead radio equipped locomotives on the Southern Railway could be inentified by their numberboards - black numbers on white backgrounds. As opposed to all other Southern locomotives which had white numbers on a black background.
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