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Posted by creepycrank on Thursday, August 6, 2009 4:11 PM
Well we're getting off topic. I wonder if you railroad types, especially shop forces could tell us what the GE trouble shooting guide has to say about what to look for if the exhaust gets a little smoky and how to check a turbo(not running) for bearing clearance such as end play( thrust bearing wear) and side-to-side clearance if any. I was wondering about these smoky locomotives progressing many miles without any one of the crew noticing the smoke and the engine itself not shutting down or the computer seriously derating the engine to solve the low boost pressure/smoke problem. I'm not sure but on ships the engineer can get in serious trouble in some areas for excessive smoke but the captain on the bridge should be watching out for that. There's plenty of people in the engineroom to deal with it. The locomotive engineer is undoubtedly focusing his attention well forward to deal with unexpected obstacles.
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Posted by edbenton on Thursday, August 6, 2009 6:45 PM

Randy Stahl

edbenton

By the time they get thru replacing Everything try closer to 80,000,000 in DIRECT costs.  Not to mention the fact that the GEVO's will be considered the LEPER of the locomotive world.  GE will have trouble giving them away for years.  Consider this problem like the ones EMD had with the 50 series.  However GE is being better on taking care of it and more proactive on the fixes not being secretive about the issue.  All GE uses for the aircraft engines is a titatuim alloy shaft.  If the stupid idiots that are in Washington and in the Boardrooms would bring back Heavy Industry into this Nation most of these problems we are seeing would not be happening.

 

 

Start by putting the EPA on a shorter leash

Not going to happen with the Current group of Tree Huggers in Power.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, August 7, 2009 6:41 AM

edbenton

Randy Stahl

edbenton

By the time they get thru replacing Everything try closer to 80,000,000 in DIRECT costs.  Not to mention the fact that the GEVO's will be considered the LEPER of the locomotive world.  GE will have trouble giving them away for years.  Consider this problem like the ones EMD had with the 50 series.  However GE is being better on taking care of it and more proactive on the fixes not being secretive about the issue.  All GE uses for the aircraft engines is a titatuim alloy shaft.  If the stupid idiots that are in Washington and in the Boardrooms would bring back Heavy Industry into this Nation most of these problems we are seeing would not be happening.

 

 

Start by putting the EPA on a shorter leash

Not going to happen with the Current group of Tree Huggers in Power.

I like breathing clean air, so let's hope that the EPA never gets a shorter leash.

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Posted by creepycrank on Friday, August 7, 2009 8:53 AM
We are off topic still. Why don't you start a new post on how the EPA changed my life or something. I'm still waiting for GE's helpful hints on turbo troubleshooting. I guess that those who would know are up to their ... ah, armpits in alligators right now.
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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, August 8, 2009 5:10 PM

After contemplating this thread I've noticed that the CSX freights passing by are over powered when using GEVOs. Because I am not in a heavy throttle area I cannot tell but it appears that they are running at a lower throttle setting to save the turbos. Any of you CSX people know??

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