Flintlock76 54light15 Here's another change of pace; I've heard of this one, I didn't think it still ran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nForKnnNk I guess it'll work all right, as long as everyone stays on the outrigger side.
54light15 Here's another change of pace; I've heard of this one, I didn't think it still ran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nForKnnNk
Here's another change of pace; I've heard of this one, I didn't think it still ran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nForKnnNk
I guess it'll work all right, as long as everyone stays on the outrigger side.
One nice thing is that the track people don't have to maintain the gauge too accurately.
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"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
If anyone around here says soda pop, soda or pop we usually assume they're not locals. Usually it's soft drink, but sometimes Coke is used to mean any kind of soft drink.
"What kinda coke ya want?"
"Gimme an orange."
Overmod Flintlock76 "It's soda pop!" "It's pop!" "It's SODA POP!" "IT'S POP! " So in frustration, they turned to me... And you in command track, in a military situation, and you didn't remember your military-industrial dictionary? "Carbonated beverage, counter-dipsotic, OTS" might be a 'promising' start. Then add the particular encapsulation, transport, and imbibition-option modalities appropriate to the instantiation. Just remember, on the box a Creamsicle is a 'quiescently frozen confection'.
Flintlock76 "It's soda pop!" "It's pop!" "It's SODA POP!" "IT'S POP! " So in frustration, they turned to me...
And you in command track, in a military situation, and you didn't remember your military-industrial dictionary?
"Carbonated beverage, counter-dipsotic, OTS" might be a 'promising' start. Then add the particular encapsulation, transport, and imbibition-option modalities appropriate to the instantiation.
Just remember, on the box a Creamsicle is a 'quiescently frozen confection'.
Nah, Marines don't have time for all that BS, we leave it to the Army.
Or the Air Force. The Navy we're never sure of.
If we want to elaborate or add emphasis we insert the "F-Bomb" or a variant thereof in the appropriate location.
Now this is a true story...
One day I was working in the gun shop and two guys came in who worked for the Popsicle Corporation in the quality control department, so I just had to ask...
"Hey guys, just what is the proper pronunciation of this product of yours, 'Fudge-sicle,' or 'Fuggical?'"
"Well, it's supposed to be 'Fudge-sicle, but at the office everyone calls them 'Fuggicals!'"
So there you have it, right from Popsicle Co.'s head office!
I never cared for Creamsicles, every one I ever bought seemed to melt in 30 seconds. I've three O gauge cars for the "Suger High Express" under the Christmas tree, Popsicle, Fudgesicle, and Creamsicle, but I only bought the Creamsicle car to keep the collection complete.
Flintlock76"It's soda pop!" "It's pop!" "It's SODA POP!" "IT'S POP! " So in frustration, they turned to me...
Time for a "True Tale Of The Marine Corps."
One day the troops were having an argument over the proper terminology for soft drinks, and indeed it depends on what part of the country you're from.
"It's soda pop!"
"It's pop!"
"It's SODA POP!"
"IT'S POP! "
So in frustration, they turned to me...
"Say Lieutenant, what is it? Pop or soda pop?"
I looked at the group, and gravely answered in my best New Jersey accent...
"It's SO-dah!"
Didn't help.
It's "pop" here in Michigan, too. My wife is from Southern California and it's "soda" to her. Since it's not important and I'm a good husband, I let her think that she is right!
Ah yes, HoJo's "clams fried to order" which meant that if you didn't order fried clams, you didn't get fried clams. How many ways were there to fly clams? Only one that I'm aware of.
"Pop"- that's what Canadians and Western New Yorkers call soda. We went camping near Salamanca, New York in 1969 and these girls we met called it, "Pahhp." A regional accent I guess.
54light15 Backshop- the same for Buddy's. I'm in Plymouth Michigan every summer for the Concours of America car show and I will be trying their dogs!
Backshop- the same for Buddy's. I'm in Plymouth Michigan every summer for the Concours of America car show and I will be trying their dogs!
Since Howard Johnson's name was mentioned: Does anyone else recall (and miss) their Fried Clam Strips? Mmmmm Mmmmm!
For some reason I thought Boylan's was a New England brand! Don't have a shred of remembrance of Brookdale, probably to my regret. I've been trying very, very hard to remember Gino's, which I surely should remember if I remember Carroll's so well. Very oddly, there was exactly one Jack-in-the-Box anywhere near where I lived, but it was only a couple of towns over in Bergenfield or Teaneck, I think very close to the West Shore main, and in the mid-Seventies was open late... so it became the run of choice for late-night runs while putting the school newspaper to bed. Secret sauce on cheeseburgers was magical. Then I went off to college and came back between terms to find it closed, and I think to the day I left in the early '90s there wasn't another one.
The very best thing I remember drinking as a child was red birch beer. You can't find the stuff any more. But the crown jewel of sodas is or was Brier's Bark Brewed Birch Beer, bottled by Best Brands Beverage in ... Fords, New Jersey.
The closest I ever got to living near a place that calls it 'pop' was when I spent a little time working out a video-on-demand system in the very late '80s in Kansas City. There were times we called it 'soda pop' but if that got shortened it was to 'soda'.
Boylans is indeed still around, according to Wiki now made in New York City.
https://www.boylanbottling.com
Honestly, this is one I don't remember. I suppose it never made it to my neighborhood.
Ah, KFC at Kenny Kings. We had a similar situation in New Jersey. When KFC first showed up it was sold through a local burger chain called "Ginos." Eventually KFC took over the chain and that was the end of the burgers. Now, "All KFC All The Time" at the former Ginos locations. You've got to be at least 60 to remember Ginos now. If I remember correctly, Ginos was owned by Gino Marchetti, a former player for the New York Giants.
Nothing wrong with KFC, I don't know and have never known anyone that doesn't like it, especially the "Extra Crispy" variety.
And wow, that is one helluva soda shop! A soda junkie's heaven on earth!
Try "Cracker Barrel's" trout with lemon butter sauce! I've had it at three C-B's, and it was great at all three!
Flintlock76On the subject of sodas, (And this is a Jersey thing, but you folks around the rest of the country are welcome to listen in, and maybe have a few tales of your own?), Mod-Man, do you remember Brookdale Beverages?
Boylan's is still around, last I knew. That's another Jersey soda. Or it was.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.
P.S. I'm gonna pay more attention to the soda department at B. A. Sweeties next time I'm there....
Quick poll!
Is it soda, or is it pop?
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
Flintlock76I remember HoJo's, but not the franks
Flintlock76 never cared for Asian cuisine of any kind
Me neither. But this stuff was different.
Flintlock76"Giggle Noodle Soup,"
The noodles danced on your tongue.
It's where Clevelander's went for Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Flintlock76Roy Rogers (properly "Pappy Parkers") fried chicken!
Cracker Barrel's new Southern Fried Chicken is VERY close.
On the subject of sodas, (And this is a Jersey thing, but you folks around the rest of the country are welcome to listen in, and maybe have a few tales of your own?), Mod-Man, do you remember Brookdale Beverages?
Oh man, I loved their sodas! All those great flavors! Grape, cherry, lemon-lime, orange, and their cola was first-rate, just as good as Coca-Cola. I even loved what they sold as "Tom Collins Mixer," what a great flavor that had. As a matter of fact when "Fresca" first came out I recognized the flavor right away, it was just a sweetened Tom Collins mixer!
Sadly, Brookdale was a casualty of the "Cola Wars" of the 1980's, Coke vs. Pepsi. Ruthlessly undercutting each others prices Brookdale was "collateral damage," they just couldn't compete pricewise with what Coke and Pepsi were doing and went out of business. What a damn shame. Probably happened to a lot of other local brands around the country as well.
For those who remember. https://njbottles.com/index.php?topic=2683.0
I don't remember the cans, just the 28 fluid ounce bottles.
Flintlock76 ... Either a complete management disaster OR a stroke of marketing genius the way it generated new interest in "Old Coke." We'll never know, 'cause the Coca-Cola company won't admit to either.
It was very clear at the time, in the Columbia business-school community, that it was an arrogant and stupid miscalculation on a grand scale, followed by a remarkably worthless attempt to instill the 'it was all a clever marketing ploy! excuse we see so often in 'edgy' (is that still a marketing buzzword' advertising campaigns that go bad or fall flat. No one believed it was intentional then, and no one should believe it now.
In part this is because the 'correct' strategy for Cokesi would have been to introduce it as a niche product, ramp up advertising on it and quietly cut back on the advertising budget for the old stuff a la Ballentine 'tink tink' Ballentine Ale. Has the additional core Coca-Cola priority of securing more and more required shelf space for multiple products. We all knew at the time that New Coke drinkers weren't going to be ex-Coke drinkers; they'd be ex-Pepsi drinkers... that was part of the point all along. Instead they destroyed their own base, while Pepsi just looked on and laughed, as it were. You can't possibly spin the absolute loss of dollars and market cap as shrewd guerrilla marketing, unless you think 'holding it wrong' is clever publicity to draw eyeballs to the parts of the tech that actually work. It would be like believing those shucking and jiving Disney execs when the Eisner thing imploded, falling over themselves to claim they had no idea what was really going on.
Or, to put it a bit differently, it's like the borderline joke about Broward County in the aftermath of the 2000 election, with the hanging-chad confusion for those sweet little old ladies ... who know down to the penny when their lunch check hasn't been split right.
Makes the Corps response to a mistake ever so much more invigorating, although I continue to affirm that an explanation is not at all the same thing as an excuse, and that there are usually lessons to be learned from hearing the explanation even if it doesn't change 'owning your actions'.
Keep Cool with Coolidge!
"Unemployment results when large numbers of people are out of work."
A woman at a White House gathering said to Cal, "My husband bet me I couldn't get three words out of you." Cal said, 'You lose."
Cal's wife wasn't feeling well so he went to church alone. Back home his wife asked what the sermon was about. He said, "Sin" she asked, "what did he say about it?" "He was against it."
When he died the poet Dorothy Parker said, "How can they tell? "
Remember what Will Rogers said about "Silent Cal" Coolidge?
"It's not that Calvin Coolidge didn't do nuthin', he did nuthin' better than anyone else!"
My favorite Will Rogers quote? "I'm not a member of an organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
My favorite Rogers story? At the 1932 Democratic Convention the band had just finished playing "Dixie," and in the press box was H.L Mencken. Mencken jumped up and yelled "Hey! Play 'Marching Through Georgia!'" Bad move, Will Rogers was sitting next to Mencken, jumped up and decked him!
I tried "Jolt" cola when it came out. Not bad. Good ol' Coke is still the best, as far as I'm concerned.
"New Coke?" Thankfully gone but not forgotten. Either a complete managment disaster OR a stroke of marketing genius the way it generated new interest in "Old Coke." We'll never know, 'cause the Coca-Cola company won't admit to either.
Oh Lord, I was afraid this was going to get onto Moxie. Wayne, you may have read Chris Lynch, one of his characters calls it 'carbonated tires' (although you need to have changed tires to know he means that awful bitter stuff inside them more than the rubber). Get a bottle of Tummy Tonic and dump some into one of those no-name colas to get an idea of the flavor vibe.
Now, I suspect that if gentian bitters is part of a patent medicine (which, famously, thus stuff and Coke both started out as) you have to wonder if the Lydia Pinkham's 40% alcohol thing is in play too. There was caffeine but a whole lot less than the Atlanta stuff. That may account for some of why noted slugabed and Moxie drinker Silent Cal liked to nap so much. I haven't thought until now whether Jagermeister and Coke could be a 'thing'; perhaps it even has 'health' benefits.
See if Mike has pictures of the Moxie precursors of the Wienermobiles. Apparently some guy recently could buy a '35 Rolls-Royce for $55K because someone had replaced the driver's seat with a horse. Perhaps you had to be there to appreciate the parade humor, like with Shriners in those little cars.
I am ashamed to say I missed the whole Mad Magazine Cowsnofsky thing -- and the 'Mad About Moxie' campaign, probably part of the wonderfully wacky takes on advertising we got in the late Sixties, the era of 'Uncola' too. That's where the Moxie in Bored of the Rings likely comes from.
They missed a sure bet by not Jolt-Colatizing this stuff; why drink overpriced Red Bull (from the culture that gave us reality TV and Dvtch Morris, not the one of Walschaerts, Belpaire, and a whole whole lot of missing hands) when you could Buy American and practice your self-discipline and intestinal fortitude with every bottle!
Perhaps now that Coke has bought them we will get a New Coke-style advertising or social-media campaign that gets sheeple actually drinking this stuff and "liking" it -- but wait ... didn't Coke already make something awfully analogous to it (the double entendre is intentional) with Beverly? The most feared and despised of all Coke products, kinda like the Laphroaig of soft drinks? Perhaps Coke actually bought this as a kind of Fish carburetor of the beverage industry, sneakily intending to rebrand stocks of Beverly as 'New Moxie' while retaining the 'heritage' cachet they seem to be emphasizing recently, and kill many birds at a stroke, to block a metaphor. What a time to be alive! What a time to be dead!
What did Vin Fiz taste like? Maybe equal parts of gasolene, motor oil, and aircraft fabric dope?
https://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/the-vin-fiz-crosses-america-81916664
There's a little railroad content in there too!
Now, I can tell you what "Moxie" tastes like. A popular drink around the time of the First World War, and the origin of the saying for a tough guy with a lot of perseverance, "He's got a lot of moxie!"
I ran into it on a trip to Maine 35 years ago and got curious. It tastes like carbonated coffee. Not bad if it's ice-cold, but as soon as it starts to warm up, yuck!
So I learned where the old saying came from. It took some effort to finish the bottle. I have no idea why it was so popular. The WW1 generation must have been real tough!
Back to the "Vin Fiz." Cal P. Rodgers had a lot of moxie!
Flintlock76But I sure remember Roy Rogers (properly "Pappy Parkers") fried chicken! It's still good, if you're lucky enough to have a Roy's in your area! So are the roast beef sandwiches! Trouble in my case is the nearest Roy's is 100 miles away!
So are the roast beef sandwiches!
Trouble in my case is the nearest Roy's is 100 miles away!
My local Roy's has transitioned twice - first to Arby's and then to Popeye's
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
The Loganberry drink at the Arbour has pulp in it, the only one of their drinks that does. It's a great berry growing area, it's possible they have their own source or even their own farm. I never asked.
CSSHEGEWISCHExcellent hot dogs at Nathan's?? Surely you jest. The hot dogs are infinitely better at Portillo's.
And now that you mention it, better still at Pink's.
Flintlock76They look a lot like raspberries. I wonder if they taste like them?
The loganberry is kind of like the Red Delicious apple of the berry world. They're named for Jim Logan, who crossbred blackberries and raspberries to get them in 1881. By the turn of the century it was being aggressively marketed as "the largest and finest and most prolific berry extant".
Here is a page that will tell you most of what you'd want to know about both loganberries and Phez.
Interestingly, back in the day (starting in 1915), like an early version of Bosco vs. Cocoa Marsh, there was a fierce competitor to the Pheasant Co's product -- it was called Loju. Perhaps tellingly, the rivalry (despite involving the better part of a million contemporary gold-backed dollars) ended more like Sirius vs. XM, the Penn Central of broadcasting, in merger no more than four years later.
What I've wanted to know for decades is what Vin Fiz tasted like.
I remember HoJo's, but not the franks, never cared for Asian cuisine of any kind, I know Lipton, the various soups, the tea, and Sir Tommy Lipton the yachtsman who just never could bring the America's Cup back to Britain, but not the "Giggle Noodle Soup," never heard of Kenny King, and at my elementary school you brown-bagged it or went hungry.
But I sure remember Roy Rogers (properly "Pappy Parkers") fried chicken! It's still good, if you're lucky enough to have a Roy's in your area!
Ever see that Roy Rogers movie where Trigger gets kidnapped? Great finish, everybody gets to kill a bad guy! Roy, Dale, Trigger, even Andy Devine!
Bullet just gets to chew on 'em.
While I was out in the garage for a couple of minutes I started thinking about sense memories. Here are a few tastes I miss against which I still judge the things I eat.
I've never heard of loganberries, but now you've got me wondering what that Phez juice and loganberry ice cream tasted like.
They look a lot like raspberries. I wonder if they taste like them?
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