Where can i get Juniatha's drawings of her designs of steam locomotives.They do not show up on my computer. Gary
That's a good question man, I wish I had an answer for you. Juniatha dropped off the Forum a while ago, I have no idea why, she didn't tell me why or to my knowledge anyone else.
If those conceptual drawings are gone they're probably gone for good, and that's a shame, they were quite clever and well done.
I wish she'd come back, I miss that brilliant young lady.
Flintlock76 That's a good question man, I wish I had an answer for you. Juniatha dropped off the Forum a while ago, I have no idea why, she didn't tell me why or to my knowledge anyone else. If those conceptual drawings are gone they're probably gone for good, and that's a shame, they were quite clever and well done. I wish she'd come back, I miss that brilliant young lady.
I miss her too, I wasn't posting much back then but I always enjoyed reading the threads posted to. A real steam expert.
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charlie hebdo I believe she became fed up with repeated and perceived as personal attacks on her by a certain member. A real loss. Ditto with the loss of Volker.
That was my impression as well, but for the life of me I can't remember who.
I sure remember the way Volker ended up leaving the forum... ...and it was just plain wrong.
SD70Dude charlie hebdo I believe she became fed up with repeated and perceived as personal attacks on her by a certain member. A real loss. Ditto with the loss of Volker. That was my impression as well, but for the life of me I can't remember who. I sure remember the way Volker ended up leaving the forum... ...and it was just plain wrong.
I agree, however, it just goes to illuminate that they lacked the stamina of professional railroaders. You don't last long if you have a thin skin. People who 'quit in a huff' because some of their assertions have been challenged are much too mentally weak to go through day in day out railroading.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Be that as it may, there's challenging assertions and challenging assertions. We all know there's some who cross the line, I won't name names because it's not my place to do so, and it would do no good.
We'd all do well to remember that you can question someone's statements without questioning their knowledge, intelligence or sincerity.
Certainly you need a thick skin to be a professional railroader. Trust me on this one, you need a thick skin to be a Marine, but everyone isn't a Marine, or professional railroader for that matter. I try to remember that when dealing with others.
It's for the same reason I've never critisized anyone who's spelling, syntax, sentence structure, or grammar in general isn't what it should be.
I just don't like to lose anyone here with something to say. We lose a lot when that happens.
People come and go for a thousand different reasons.. wouldn't necessarily conclude that she left because of a feud with someone.
BaltACD SD70Dude charlie hebdo I believe she became fed up with repeated and perceived as personal attacks on her by a certain member. A real loss. Ditto with the loss of Volker. That was my impression as well, but for the life of me I can't remember who. I sure remember the way Volker ended up leaving the forum... ...and it was just plain wrong. I agree, however, it just goes to illuminate that they lacked the stamina of professional railroaders. You don't last long if you have a thin skin. People who 'quit in a huff' because some of their assertions have been challenged are much too mentally weak to go through day in day out railroading.
Backshop BaltACD SD70Dude charlie hebdo I believe she became fed up with repeated and perceived as personal attacks on her by a certain member. A real loss. Ditto with the loss of Volker. That was my impression as well, but for the life of me I can't remember who. I sure remember the way Volker ended up leaving the forum... ...and it was just plain wrong. I agree, however, it just goes to illuminate that they lacked the stamina of professional railroaders. You don't last long if you have a thin skin. People who 'quit in a huff' because some of their assertions have been challenged are much too mentally weak to go through day in day out railroading. Wow, I didn't know this was a forum only for professional railroaders.
Wow, I didn't know this was a forum only for professional railroaders.
It is not for professional railroaders, however, professional railroaders don't hold back when expressing their thoughts and opinions. Adults get over their hurt feeling and continue to participate - that is a part of being an adult.
I know Volker and I went a few rounds a couple times but he was articulate and passionate about his materials. Anymore my skin is thicker than that of a rhino due to all the moronically inclined government workers I have the honor of dealing with on a daily basis. Some of them would drown in a thunderstorm by looking up at the rain.
Take this lovely person for whom the Illinois EPA sent out to look at our now completed new tank wash. He was amazed that we could recycle close to 90 percent of all the water used in a tank wash. He went why did we spend that much money to do it. My answer was simply to comply with the regulatory requirements for which you have mandated. He went what's that mean. I said a little more forcefully than I wanted. So idiots like yourself can't find a way to fine my boss out of business and to justify your wages.
BaltACD It is not for professional railroaders, however, professional railroaders don't hold back when expressing their thoughts and opinions. Adults get over their hurt feeling and continue to participate - that is a part of being an adult.
Flintlock76It's for the same reason I've never critisized anyone who's spelling, syntax, sentence structure, or grammar in general isn't what it should be.
Exactly. Some folks on here, mostly in the past, but even on this thread, have played Mr. Tough Guy, attacking others and then claiming they were not adult enough to take the mental strain. Some of us, like yourself, know from experience that the types who play at being tough are usually just BS artists and actually quite weak.
Some of the repeated spelling errors on here are laughble (using "loosing" rather than "losing" comes to mind), but not nearly as bad as on some British forums.
charlie hebdo Flintlock76 It's for the same reason I've never critisized anyone who's spelling, syntax, sentence structure, or grammar in general isn't what it should be. Exactly. Some folks on here, mostly in the past, but even on this thread, have played Mr. Tough Guy, attacking others and then claiming they were not adult enough to take the mental strain. Some of us, like yourself, know from experience that the types who play at being tough are usually just BS artists and actually quite weak. Some of the repeated spelling errors on here are laughble (using "loosing" rather than "losing" comes to mind), but not nearly as bad as on some British forums.
Flintlock76 It's for the same reason I've never critisized anyone who's spelling, syntax, sentence structure, or grammar in general isn't what it should be.
I apologize for posting in Canadianese, its a very colourful language.
Sorry eh.
BackshopWow, I didn't know this was a forum only for professional railroaders.
Professional? Guess I have to leave.
I think Volker got ticked about being moderated. Believe me, it sucks, and you lose a lot of interest in posting when it happens.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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zugmann Backshop Wow, I didn't know this was a forum only for professional railroaders. Professional? Guess I have to leave. I think Volker got ticked about being moderated. Believe me, it sucks, and you lose a lot of interest in posting when it happens.
Backshop Wow, I didn't know this was a forum only for professional railroaders.
I've been called out a couple of times, once quite politely where I learned a few things as a result and a few times which were more of a putdown for disagreeing with the other person. "True Believers" are difficult to deal with in any field and you have to learn to deal with their inflexibility.
Do you get, or have previously gotten, a pay stub that has a railroad's name imprinted on it? If so you are a professional. I'll even expand that to hard core railroad suppliers of the basics of railroading - engines, cars, signalling, roadway equipment etc. There are a lot of aspects that make one a professional railroader.
One thing I learned the hard way during my career. Just because things are done one way on a Division of railroad, doesn't mean that same thing is done the same way on other Division's of the same railroad or on a entirely different railroad. My career was 51 years of learning something new most each and every day.
Hey, I've been moderated myself. It was after I posted a scathing comment about Bob Keller (of the Classic Toy Trains staff) being laid off. The thread lasted all of 15 seconds (although some folks saw it) and I was moderated for two weeks. Big deal.
Now Bob's back, and all's right with the world. I renewed my subscription to CTT to show my appreciation. I suspect I wasn't the only CTT reader who protested.
Not sorry I did it. "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do!"
And 'Dude, keep up with the "Canadianese!" I find the "Canadian Content" refreshing. I mean, the CSX - NS- BNSF- Amtrak refrains get dull after a while.
I get moderated every day.. its called marriage..
Being moderated isn't so terrible.. just go with the flow and forget about it. Your ego will recover.
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Juniatha had a lot of interesting things to share and I miss her posting. OTOH, I have had some strong disagreements with her, specifically on horsepower ratings for American diesel locomotive prime movers were a very different beast than the horsepower ratings for American automobiles.
As for thick skin vs thin skin, I think being able to to agree to disagree is more important.
Flintlock76 Hey, I've been moderated myself. It was after I posted a scathing comment about Bob Keller (of the Classic Toy Trains staff) being laid off. The thread lasted all of 15 seconds (although some folks saw it) and I was moderated for two weeks. Big deal. Now Bob's back, and all's right with the world. I renewed my subscription to CTT in gratitude. Not sorry I did it. "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do!" And 'Dude, keep up with the "Canadianese!" I find the "Canadian Content" refreshing. I mean, the CSX - NS- BNSF- Amtrak refrains get dull after a while.
Now Bob's back, and all's right with the world. I renewed my subscription to CTT in gratitude.
Stop sniveling. I've been on moderation for over 2 years. frequently when my post shows up the subject has changed. This forum is juvenile. Adult thoughts, language, and ideas are not allowed apparently.
No arguments from "out here!" Any one, in a marriage, is subject to that 'moderation' thingy. Ulrich is spot-on about that!
As to the 'Canadianese' it is refreshing and they add a lot to this Forum. Mention also, our friends down under, and the English as well, and some of the others. Internationally, those who have participated in the conversations as well, add to the discussions on these Forums.
Thanks Sam! Semper Fi!
Erik, if I remember correctly Juniatha's favorite car was a '53 Buick, so she knew something about American horsepower. I guess. Not a car guy, but I do dig the classics.
Ever hear this one?
A girl gets home to her apartment, and her room-mate asks "How was your blind date?"
"Lousy!"
"Really? What happened?"
"It was all downhill after he picked me up in a '57 Chevy."
"A '57 Chevy? What's wrong with that? It sounds like fun!"
"He was the original owner!"
And yeah, Ulrich nailed it. Especially in my case. Lady Firestorm, ya know?
UlrichI get moderated every day.. its called marriage..
Or to use the apt phrase of Rumpole, "She who must be obeyed!"
Wayne,
I wasn't doubting Juniatha's skepticism of horsepower ratings for American cars, but I strongly disagreed with her on locomotive horsepower ratings being as optimistic as car hp ratings. An example was a dyno testing of a circa 1994 Dodge truck with a V-10, te engine was rated for 300HP, but was only good for ~230hp on the chassis dyno. In the same writeup, a Dodge Cummins pickup was tested on the dyno, engine was rated for 160hp, dyno reading was 165hp...
One of my "bucket list" items from high school days was getting behind the wheel of a straight 8 OHV Buick - not sure if the '53 still had the Dynaflash 8, or had a V-8. The '53 would have been one to two years older than I am, born shortly after the '55 modles came out.
I did meet a guy who was the original owner of a 1926 Model T.
I may be able to shed some light on Juniatha's departure. I may have had a small part in her pique with many of the members who participated actively in the steam locomotive topics.
I don't recall anymore when it happened, but it was prior to 2015, perhaps some time in 2013. She was criticised by someone about her terminology or her command of the English language. Before she responded, I entered the discussion with my own assessment of her abilities and opined that her use of our language was 'quirky' or similar, and then went on to defend her and to ask for a bit more consideration. Well.....privately, she was very hostile to me and demanded that I retract my assessment of her. I refused, being a man who doesn't enjoy falsifying what I take for truth even if just to assuage a person's ire or hurt feelings. It's not the cloth from which my jib is cut. We cut off our occasional, and increasingly rare, private conversations at that time, and some time shortly thereafter she ceased posting altogether.
I believe, not wishing to speak for her ( I guess I made that mistake once too often) inaccurately, that she got fed up with hints, innuendos, snide criticisms, and several other instances of affront and decided to abandon this forum. I am sorry she felt that way because I valued her input, even if I couldn't understand much of it. I feel that the forum is much lighter without her. I also feel that she ought to have been tougher if she had truly wanted to assert her several capacities here.
Erik, you knew a Model T's original owner? Wow.
I'd love to meet the original owners of some of my military hardware but that's not going to happen until I "...shuffle off this mortal coil...", which isn't going to be anytime soon, I hope! I'm not that curious!
Wayne, it would more accurate to say that my uncle knew the original owner, and my uncle introduced me to him when he drove up with the model T. The local VFW hall was across the street from where my uncle lived. Being a 1926 model, it did have an electric starter. This was 1971, so he had had the car for 45 years at the time, which is how long that I've owned my HP-45.
I remember having fun driving my uncle's 1950 GMC pickup with manual, choke, manual throttle pull, vacuum wipers, 6V battery, started butter next to the gas pedal and wood floorboards. That truck was at least 4 years older than I was at the time - the car that my son drives is 2.5 years older than he is.
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