Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
QUOTE: I was amazed at how few people didn't know that CSX means Chessie System times many others.
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxmu Just to clear things up CSX stands for Chessie Seaboard times many more[:I] Stands for what? Chicken [censored] Express??? [:-^] I live in the place where not much happens railroad wise. When I do see stuff move it's either CSX or NS. It's old conrail territory but I see more NS. I wasn't lucky enough to be born into an area with a high traffic double main cross of two large railroad like the one in Rochelle. Maybe railroads will be around in my next life. -Marc Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:03 AM Thanks to those who responded to my EMD demonstrator question. I guess I should have been more specific, however. The manufacturer isn't my problem. I'm wondering what model #9046 is, based either upon previous trackside sightings by other railfans, or according to a EMD roster of some sort. If the first 2 digits of the road number are any indicator, maybe it is an SD90??? Things were quiet along the CSX tracks to Chicago on 2-12-05. Nine locomotives headed four trains. Of the 9 engines, 3 belonged to UP (with 1 more a Conrail unit), just to show the frequency mix of off-road power being used. CSX GP40-2 #4421 was performing local switching chores at St. Joe, Indiana. A heads-up to any film makers living near the northwest Ohio area. You can easily pace trains over a 6-mile section of the Norfolk Southern mainline between Butler, IN and Edgerton, OH by following Route 6. Note: it's best to leave Butler and pick up the eastbound trains to keep any oncoming car traffic out of your viewfinder. You'll be shooting into the sun, unfortunately, for Rt 6 is north of the tracks. Come on a cloudy day! A nice mix of off-road power may be seen along the NS tracks here, as well. . . UP, BNSF (in orange, BN green, and Executive green paint), plus Conrail units are commonplace. KCS #2010 was in a westbound on 2-9-05. Many NS units pass by in that new, light gray/green paint scheme. Does that color have a name??? While you're in Butler, check out the old Wabash north/south track at the extreme eastern edge of town on Rt. 6. You can park near the diamond where that track crosses the NS 2-track main line without being questioned by anyone. A nice photo spot! Happy Hunting! Reply Edit JoeKoh Member sinceApril 2003 From: Defiance Ohio 13,286 posts Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, February 13, 2005 12:17 PM fpe101 rt 18 will get you some csx action through nw ohio.any word or building of the wye at butler between the wabash and old nyc line yet?? stay safe Joe Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener"). Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 13, 2005 2:01 PM of the csx units everyone is seeing, how many have the new csx paint scheme Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 13, 2005 2:23 PM JoeKoh I wasn't aware that plans for a wye at Butler were in the air. Such a wye would certainly ease NS's ability to access the old Wabash line, however! Were they to construct it, I'm sure they could then abandon other sections of their lines and thereby come out ahead in all operational / cost aspects. Thing is, I haven't noticed much traffic routed along the Wabash line, maybe one train a day. The yards at Montpelier are generally empty each time I pass through there. Are the costs of the wye worth it? I'm curious to learn more. I've traveled Rt. 18 many times to Defiance and beyond, but can recall no part of that highway that runs right beside the tracks for mile after mile as does Rt. 6, as I related earlier. Maybe you can direct me to a specific location? I've been contemplating a trip to Deshler but held off for not knowing whether or not the traffic density there would make my long drive worthwhile. Does the north / south line through Deshler see much action? Otherwise, I'd see exactly the same east / west trains as I do near Hicksville since those trains are only further down the very same line to Chicago. I suppose I should just continue further east to Fostoria if I really want to see a show! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 13, 2005 2:42 PM genestuemke Maybe you can describe for me what CSX's "new" paint scheme looks like to some degree of detail? I myself see a few AC-powered units with road numbers in the 600-699 range, with a lightning streak below the number to denote AC. Those brutes are always a thrill for me to watch simply because they're so darn powerful! More common, however, are AC4400CW's with road numbers from 1-599. (The lowest I've recorded is #77). Those have a yellow nose that leads into a yellow stripe along the running board, blue cabs that lead into a blue stripe above the running board, and an entirely bluish-gray carbody. Big, blue CSX letters appear on the sides just ahead of the radiator wings. Should I be looking for some other distinguishing paint characteristics? It will be interesting to keep an eye out! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 13, 2005 2:50 PM Anyone out there- Obviously, it is possible to m-u an AC powered unit with a DC since I see both kinds lashed together. But I have difficulty understanding how that can be accomplished, I guess. How does that work? Are speed and brake commands the only things transmitted from one locomotive to another, to the point that the type of power (AC or DC) doesn't matter? Somehow, I got the impression that like-powered units ONLY (AC-AC or DC-DC) would run together. Obviously I'm wrong. I'd like very much to hear just how the whole system works! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 13, 2005 4:02 PM The MU cable only passes a very limited set of information between the units. No air information is passed through this cable. It does convey positon of reverser, throttle position, dynamic brake setup, the position of the generator field switch, fuel pump, etc.. In this fashion all locomotives can work with this information. An SD40 could be producing 2500 H.P. while an A.C. is pumping 4400 H.P. Both units are in #8 throttle forward power. Hope this helps. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 14, 2005 2:22 PM Hogger54 Very informative information. Thank you! Your mention of the "generator field switch" was interesting. . . simply because I have no idea what that is for. Perhaps you can elaborate? You remarks about a 2500HP unit and a 4400HP unit each being capable of producing only their maximum amount of horsepower in Run-8 of course make sense. That brings to mind yet another question, however. Why do I often see a pair of 4000HP CSX engines hauling 160 loads of coal, and then see a pair of 6000HP engines hauling 35 intermodal cars in a hotshot symbol train? The excess of power on the intermodals doesn't make sense to me. Unless, of course, one engine is simply "for emergency" in case the lead unit suffers a break-down. The dispatcher certainly doesn't want that train to fail to make a connection. Otherwise, I would think that one 6000HP unit would be capable of hauling such a train all by itself. . . as born out by the fact that 160 coal loads require only a total of 8000HP. What's your opinion on this? Reply Edit espeefoamer Member sinceNovember 2003 From: West Coast 4,122 posts Posted by espeefoamer on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:49 PM I see CSX on the ex ATSF line through Fullerton on a regular basis.There is a LOT more NS power through here,though.CN is also fairly common. Ride Amtrak. Cats Rule, Dogs Drool. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:00 PM JoeKoh In my posting of the 13th I mentioned my lack of knowledge about a wye at Butler, IN. I passed through there today and. . . sure enough! . . . there was a westbound NS intermodal very slowly curling towards the SOUTH, entering the old Wabash line! It would seem that section of the wye is already in place and functioning quite well. It's on the very eastern edge of town, right at the old crossing diamonds you probably know well. It isn't readily apparent to me where the eastbound trains can access that line going either north or south, however. I spotted CSX #7590. . . I believe a DASH 8. . . as the second unit on a westbound Norfolk Southern auto rack train this afternoon. The lead was Wisconsin Central #7637. Like everyone has been saying, you sure don't need to travel far these days to enjoy "foreign road" power! Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Friday, February 18, 2005 9:09 AM Can you say run thru power? If you watch the Ft Madison traincam you will see considerable BNSF & NS married engines even some with NS engines in the lead. Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply JoeKoh Member sinceApril 2003 From: Defiance Ohio 13,286 posts Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:40 AM fpe101 Please email me.use the email link below this post.glad to hear ns has started.might have to check it out sometime.deshler can get real busy at times because of traffic flowing to fostoria and chicago and vice versa.also you get an occasional train using the nw wye too.also lots of diffrent power.with csx you never know who you'll get. stay safe Joe Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener"). Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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Just to clear things up CSX stands for Chessie Seaboard times many more[:I]
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