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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, May 8, 2017 9:48 PM

Interested in Operating Steram in American Amusement Parks? Here is a link to a site that will provisde lists of those locomotives and their locations:

@ http://www.trainchasers.com/theme-park-steam.html

Also Look up Cagney Bros. They manufactured live steamers around the turn of the 20th Century, I think thier plant was in the Buffalo,NY area(?). Their trains were primarily in the 15", gauge and required some training to operate them. They had a large presence in the PanAmerican Exposition 1901.

From the site: "...For ten cents, passengers could board small, open cars and ride to the end of the line. The locomotives, called the Class D series, weighed 1,000 pounds and were 36 inches high from the base of the wheels to the top of the smokestack. They were steam-powered, their driving wheels 16 inches in diameter..."

 

 


 

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Posted by usmc1401 on Monday, May 8, 2017 6:51 PM

Two not on the list.

Nut Tree Railroad Vacaville CA

Michael Jacksons Neverland Ranch near Los Olivos CA.

Nut tree was a small gauge line. Neverland Ranch may have been 36"

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Posted by RobertSchuknecht on Sunday, May 7, 2017 1:18 PM

YoHo1975
Man, this thread is old. A point of clarification. The Miniature Diesels in use at Kiddieland in Maywood Illinois..and the same at the San Diego Zoo AND at Bay Beach in Green Bay Wisconsin....along with probably any miniature F unit you've ever seen are all 16in gauge MTC G-16s. MTC standing for Miniature Train Company. They are quite literally scale models of the EMD F-2 built from the EMD plans that were given to them.
 

Roethke Park near Saginaw, MI has one of these trains. Before being taken over by Thomas Twp. in 1973 the train was privately operated and called Indian Trails. The train ride included being attacked by indians and being defended by cowboys.

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Posted by Tom Burke on Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:41 PM

That Richmond minature railroad was taken up in 2014.  Here is a link to a photo of its yard.  You can see other photos of mine of this minature railroad on Flickr from 1998.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/39092860@N06/20935380630/in/photolist-HPgh72-J3BbKG-J3BbCY-J3BbyQ-CZpob1-xeJczr-xU77Bz-yaHsQy-xU1snY-xTZihs

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Posted by Tom Burke on Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:39 PM

Not sure when the minature railroad at Chilhowee Park in Knoxville (near the zoo) closed but here is a view of some of its equipment.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/39092860@N06/30141451475/in/album-72157667696069211/

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Monday, April 13, 2015 7:55 PM

I know of two amusement park type engines that are (probably!) still in use.

One I was preparing to buy several years ago.  It was in City Park in Iowa City, Iowa.  It was just a small oval of track, an engine and 2 or 3 multiperson passenger cars.  18-inch gauge (I think, its been a while!).  The family that owned and operated it for many, many years decided to quit the business and wanted the city to buy it, but the city was reluctant to do so.  So they put out feelers to see if someone else would buy it.  I was still attempting to arrange for cash to bid on it, when the city reversed itself and bought it.  After that I heard that they had built up the track on a high berm and there were complaints about safety.  When it was right on the ground, if it tipped over the passengers would just land on their sides, but with it elevated, if tipped over the whole car would roll completely over and put passengers UNDER the upside down cars.  I just checked on Google Earth and using the "History" function I can see the old track layout.  The images from today show a MUCH longer (and curvy) track loop.  Google Earth's "Street View" also has images that show the track and it is back down at ground level for the most part and much safer from that standpoint.  I gotta go visit this summer!  :-)

The other track is a fairly large oval on the grounds of the Nowthen (Minn) "Threshing Show".  I think it is 24-inch gauge (maybe 30").  Smooth ride but the engine is sort of strange looking... somewhat reminiscent of an F3 Diesel, but mounted WAY ABOVE the trucks/wheels so it looks like it is tiptoeing around the loop. See, youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDT9_VOQvRc

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, April 13, 2015 6:53 PM

Springs Park, outside Lancaster, S.C., had steam powered trains back in the mid-forties. My Sunday School teacher took her class there two or three times one summer, possibly in 1946, since there were also three WWII military planes which were great fun to play in.

I am not sure of the gauge, but the cars seated several people each, with the seats in one line.

I noticed, last week, that the park still exists, but did not know anyone to ask about the railroad.

Springs Park was owned by the Springs cotton mills, which were the province of Colonel Elliott Springs, the then president of the Lancaster and Chester Railroad.

The only other park railroad I knew about was in City Park in New Orleans; in the early sixties I wandered through there and saw what I considered to be a "gaudy dodad" pulling a train. The dodad had a vague resemblance to a steam engine, but anyone who knew anything about steam locomotives instantly saw that it was not even an imitation of one.

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Posted by rfpjohn on Monday, April 13, 2015 3:48 AM

King's Dominion in Doswell, VA had a couple of propane fired Crown 4-4-0s for their loop through the woods of maybe 3/4 mile. They also had a monorail line through the wild animal park. Both attractions were evidently to mild and space consuming to survive in todays intense thrill ride enviorment, along with most of the trees which made for pleasant, shady walkways. I think both rides came out in the mid-90s. You can still catch a glimps of the enginehouse for the Crowns from I95. Growing up in south Jersey, for a few short years, someone operated a 12"(?) gauge loop for the public in the quaint shopping village of Rancocas Woods. The power was a live steam 4-4-0. This is a couple of miles west of Mt. Holly. Poking around behind one of the gift shops, a few years ago, I noticed a shed with rails imbeded in the concrete floor, validating my childhood memories. Couldn't see inside, though. I still have a ticket stub from a ride in the early 60s.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Monday, April 13, 2015 12:21 AM
Man, this thread is old. A point of clarification. The Miniature Diesels in use at Kiddieland in Maywood Illinois..and the same at the San Diego Zoo AND at Bay Beach in Green Bay Wisconsin....along with probably any miniature F unit you've ever seen are all 16in gauge MTC G-16s. MTC standing for Miniature Train Company. They are quite literally scale models of the EMD F-2 built from the EMD plans that were given to them. That is to my knowledge the most widely used miniature amusement ride diesel train in the country. Kiddieland had I believe 2 trains. one with a single unit and one very rare AB set. There's photographic evidence of them running an ABA set, but with the engineer in the B unit. I suspect they just had the other A trailing or something since this never happened to my knowledge when I went there roughly 1975-2001 The default paint scheme was the Southern Pacific Daylight scheme which is why Kiddieland's units had it. I remember Bay Beach had a UP/Milw paint scheme the time I went. Also a clarification on the Kiddieland Steam engines. There were 2. The older of the 2 was a 4-6-4 and it never had the pulling power. She was replaced with a 4-8-4 both in 20th century limited livery. They are both at Hesston with the former Brookfield Zoo engines.
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Posted by trackrat888 on Sunday, April 12, 2015 10:53 PM

Geahaga Lake Monorail Aurora Ohio.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, April 12, 2015 5:35 PM

The Detroit Zoo was a field trip for many of us in elementary school.  And a ride on the train.  

It was a bit odd hearing that purring (and they did purr) internal combustion engine in the locomotive...

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Posted by Dr D on Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:12 PM

Many of us lament that NONE of the famous Milwaukee Railroad "Hiawatha" passenger trains remain.  Grade crossings west from Chicago had a warning posted on them "Trains pass this crossing at over 100 miles per hour."  Thats right none of the great Milwaukee streamline HUDSON 4-6-4 engines of this fame are left.  Gone are the winged feet always driving on of the "Hiawatha."

Unless you go to the Detroit Public Zoo in Royal Oak, Michigan where a complete passenger railroad in miniture exists and has for almost 50 years - all trains hourly pulled by the famous "Hiawatha" streamline hudsons.  A complete multi train railroad with signal system which carries most of the visitors to the ZOO.  My God! riding on this thing you think you are really on a Class 1 passenger railroad!

Hiawatha hudsons were built and a gift to the park by the old Chrysler Corporation.  I'm talking before Dalmer-Benz bought Chrysler and everyone in the company changed their name to Klaus or Henrich, and before it became slick Italianized by Fiat.  The good corporate managment of America's own Chrysler Corp gave a full set of Hudson steamers to the public zoo!

Now I ask you, Detroit was never served by the Milwaukee Railroad, but it was served by the New York Central with streamlined Mercury Hudson locomotives and by Grand Trunk with semi streamlined Northerns running just blocks from the zoo.  Also C&O served Detroit as did Pennsylvania RR.  Never did hear of Pennsy's Raymon Lowey streamline steam came to Detroit.  So why Didn't Chrysler Corp choose them?

Similar live steam railroad activity can be found on Saturdays in Royal Oak, MI in the summers at Star Park.

Go to the Zoo, ride behind the flashing rods the "Hiawatha" Hudsons!

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:46 PM

Freedomland was a historical theme park in the Bronx, NY in the early 60s.  It borrowed historical Maine 2 footer steem engines from Edaville.  Of course Edaville itself has had its own abandonment episodes

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Posted by KCSfan on Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:34 PM

Riverview Amusement Park was a Chicago landmark from 1904 until it closed in 1947. The park covered 74 acres and at one time was the largest amusement park in the US. I'm guessing that the railroad that ran around a part of the park was about 18" gauge.  Two trains were operated one painted red (including the locomotive) and the other painted green. The engines were live steamers and as I recall were 4-6-2's. My grade school made annual class trips to Riverview and most of the kids would head for the rollercoasters but not me. My first stop was the railroad to ride and watch those fascinating little steamers make their rounds.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:18 PM

I rode the House of David park live steamer (15" gauge IIRC) in Benton Harbor, MI in 1971.  I know it was abandoned soon after, however, I see by web search, parts of the park have been historically recreated, including part of the RR with restored steamers.

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Posted by seppburgh2 on Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:22 PM

Disney's Fort Wilderness in Fla. had a RR and back in 1996 the rails were still there.  From what the park employees told me there was too much issues between cars and the RR crossing.    The simple solution was a conversion to small vans and buses.  The rails were left to add to the decore (when not being covered by Codzy a major problem back then.)  Does anyone know what equiment was used and last run?

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Posted by ndbprr on Saturday, April 11, 2015 7:36 PM
Traverse city michigan had one in Clinch park until two years ago when they got concerned about liability after a derailment. In spite of hundreds of people objecting with no one complaining it was sent to buckley michigan to a steam club that runs it for steam days in august.
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Posted by cacole on Friday, April 10, 2015 9:37 PM

There is still quite a bit of 12 inch or so gauge railroad track running around the Pima County Fairgrounds at Tucson, Arizona, but it doesn't appear that it has been used for many years.

 

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Posted by twh67 on Friday, April 10, 2015 11:46 AM

Poppa_Zit

 

  senshi wrote:


South of town.  At the southeast corner of Hill Rd and US12/IL31.

You can see the loop through the sheds on Google Maps. HERE.

 

Isn't it behind the building with the Lionel Trains sign out front?

He's still running. I recently bought a DVD of amusement park trains and his got significant play on it. He has either an F or E diesel unit and passenger cars painted in SP Daylight colors, plus other rolling stock. It's right near where the old CNW line to Lake Geneva crossed under the Milwaukee Road.

 

Went by last Saturday and the track was ripped out.  It was there last summer/fall.  We go buy there every week during the summer, on our way to Wisconsin.

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Posted by twh67 on Friday, April 10, 2015 8:35 AM

Drove by the area last Saturday, and saw that the track was torn up.  It was there last fall.  Drive up to Wisconsin almost every weekend during the summer.  

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:03 PM

....Sq:  Yes I fully understand about the beautiful depot in Ligonier.

When the LVRR ran right thru the park, there was a very small depot {perhaps better word would be station}, located near the vicinity of the Merry go Round.  It was a very small building...perhaps just 10 ft. square or so....I have no idea if that building may still be there or not.

People used to ride to the park on the Doodlebug and get off there or reboard, etc....

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Posted by squeeze on Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:46 PM
Kennywood was sold to some Spanish outfit. Idlewild has some very small guage RR running around it, also has a trolly with Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood theme for the young ones. Sand Castle was part of the deal, as well as The Soak Zone. LVRR still has a depot but not at Idlewild.

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Posted by spokyone on Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:44 PM
 Boyd wrote:
For the movie "The Jerk", I wonder what park that was filmed in?

I'm not real sure, but it could have been in Griffith Park out by Burbank.
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Posted by Boyd on Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:48 AM
For the movie "The Jerk", I wonder what park that was filmed in?

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Posted by switch7frg on Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:54 PM
Anybody in the Phoenix Az. area recollect  Ledgend City ? It had a loop rail going  round the park .  The train had a diamond stack and was oil fired , and had 3 or 4 coaches . It died  in the 70s., replaced by the Salt River Project main Head shed electric & irrigation works.~~~ Just pleasant memories now remain . Cannonball

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Posted by tatans on Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:15 PM
WAS a nifty little steam train in Stanley Park in Vancouver B.C.  I wonder what ever happened to it ????
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Posted by Boyd on Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:07 PM
What about Old Tuscon? It was about 1/4 scale or so maybe 15" gauge. There was I think also a operational full size steam engine there used for movie shots. That one could be a new thread all by itself. I rode the 1/4 scale one sometime in the 80s. One big loop going out of town. A car or engine derailed at a  point farthest from the Village and we walked back.

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Posted by TRAINCATS on Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:45 PM

There was not to long ago there was an old train with cars sitting on a hill to the left going north out of birmingham,alabama on I-65. It was on private land and I could not get to it.

Is there anyone out there that can tell me anything about it. I bet it has some great history on it.

 

 

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:27 PM

....BaltACD:

Yes, I remember the Kennywood Park owners have also owned Idlewild Park for many years now.

My home is located just 20 miles east of there on rt. 30.

Idlewild has been a beautiful and fun place to visit in years past and suppose still is....Our school used to have a day long outing and picnic there on the last day of school.  Really looked forward to that visit.

I have been in the park many years ago as the Doodlebug passed thru....and made a stop at the tiny station right in the park.

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