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Abandoned Amusment Park Railroads..
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:05 PM

http://www.dogpatch.8m.com/whats_new.html

Another place that I saw was a abandoned amusment park in Hudson Falls New York

anyone know any others?

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Posted by RABEL on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:47 PM
Until recently I operated a Train very simular to
the one pictured. A C.P. Huntington,2' gauge.
Ford gas powered tractor motor.We also had a Crown Metals live steam engine.
Hillcrest Park,Bolingbrook IL. Over a mile long ride with a thirty foot high wooden trestle.
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Posted by UP 829 on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:36 AM

One of the longest and best in the Chicago area was the train ride at Kiddie Land in Maywood, IL. According to a fairly recent PBS show on local amusement parks, they've restored one of the steam locos and operate it on special occasions.

Someone in Richmond, IL. had a loop of track around his yard, but I don't know if it's still there. I believe Santa's Village near here had a larger scale train, but it failed to open this year for the first time and it's ultimate fate is still uncertain. 

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Posted by senshi on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:49 AM
 UP 829 wrote:

Someone in Richmond, IL. had a loop of track around his yard, but I don't know if it's still there.  



Last time I was by there it was still there, though I have never seen anything on it, they did have a shed near the back where the equipment probably was.

It's been a while since I have been there but does the Sandwich Fair still have their train ride or has that gone away.

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Posted by Chris30 on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:18 AM

FYI... Santa's Village (IL) is gone, now & forever. Everything was auctioned off a couple of months ago.

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:15 AM

For years Riverview Park was the big amusement park in Chicagoland. Just a guess, but I'd say it probably closed in the early to mid 1950's. Once a year my grade school class would make a field trip there riding for almost an hour on one of the old red Chicago Surface Lines streetcars on the Western Avenue line.When we got to the park most kids would head to the "Bobs" or another of the roller coasters for which Riverview was famous. I'd head to the miniature railroad to watch and ride the live steam powered trains that looped around a goodly part of the park. There were usually two trains operating, one headed by a green and the other by a red painted engine. That was in the 1940's and I am a bit hazy on the details but IIRC both engines were 4-6-2's and rode on rails spaced about 16" apart.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:49 AM
...The famous Idlewild Park near Ligonier, Pa. had a park railroad for years....I seem to remember it {the RR}, is not operational anymore...{Anyone know for sure}...? The park is over a 100 years old and at one time had a real railroad...{Ligonier Valley RR}, running right through the center of the park. Some coal trains and a daily doodlebug passed through. LVRR was abandoned in 1952. At one time special passenger trains came to Idlewild from Pittsburgh. There were sidings for these trains to be placed. The park actually had a {very small}, RR "depot" inside it.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:44 AM
Welcome to Northern New Jersey..home of all that is abandoned!  Aside from many rail lines we have our share of once famous theme parks that are now only a memory.  (Can you say Palisades Amusement Park?)  And several others which closed when giving way to larger amusement parks not in this area.  However most of these places are pretty well obliterated with nothing left to see, train related or otherwise.  We do have a miniature train ride at a local park centering around a zoo, and it is operated as though it is a county railroad.  Ride it often enough and you can probably collect some good rail mileage--after all lets remember that things like roller coasters and the like count towards that.
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Posted by greyhounds on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:29 PM
 senshi wrote:

Someone in Richmond, IL. had a loop of track around his yard, but I don't know if it's still there.  

I live about 10 miles from Richmond.  Where in Richmond is this?

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Posted by senshi on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:15 PM
 greyhounds wrote:
 senshi wrote:

Someone in Richmond, IL. had a loop of track around his yard, but I don't know if it's still there.  

I live about 10 miles from Richmond.  Where in Richmond is this?



South of town.  At the southeast corner of Hill Rd and US12/IL31.

You can see the loop through the sheds on Google Maps. HERE.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:59 PM

Riverview closed in 1967.  My family went there a couple of times in its last years, and those trains were "diesel" powered by that time.

Not an amusement park, but Brookfield Zoo had a miniature railroad that operated roughly around its perimeter until about 1980 or so.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:42 PM
 CShaveRR wrote:

Not an amusement park, but Brookfield Zoo had a miniature railroad that operated roughly around its perimeter until about 1980 or so.



St. Louis Zoo had a little train running around the grounds, at least in the early eighties.  Can't tell from Google Earth now, for sure, but then again, it's been 23 years since we were there.
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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:47 PM

 senshi wrote:


South of town.  At the southeast corner of Hill Rd and US12/IL31.

You can see the loop through the sheds on Google Maps. HERE.

Isn't it behind the building with the Lionel Trains sign out front?

He's still running. I recently bought a DVD of amusement park trains and his got significant play on it. He has either an F or E diesel unit and passenger cars painted in SP Daylight colors, plus other rolling stock. It's right near where the old CNW line to Lake Geneva crossed under the Milwaukee Road.

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:05 PM
 UP 829 wrote:

One of the longest and best in the Chicago area was the train ride at Kiddie Land in Maywood, IL. According to a fairly recent PBS show on local amusement parks, they've restored one of the steam locos and operate it on special occasions.

They restored the boiler and moving parts on the 1950 steam engine a year or so ago and put it back in service. But for some reason they didn't rebuild the firebox, which soon became a problem. So now I heard that's what they're doing over the winter.

It's pretty awesome as far as these trains go. The streamlined boiler reminds me of my
Mom's old early 1950s art-deco ElectroLux canister vacuum cleaner.

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Posted by zgardner18 on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:14 PM

This really isn't an amusement park but close enough:

I guess this little lot belonged to a gentleman that passed away a couple of years ago.  supposely he would give rides on his train here but would also load up a trailer and take it to the mall.   I was very interesteted in purchasing his equiptment but couldn't ever get ahold of his family.  I would have love to have kept his tradition going.  Bytheway, this is the town of Bozeman, Montana.

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Posted by Bob-Fryml on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:40 PM

Lions Park, Cheyenne, Wyo. had an oval piece of track set at about 12"-gauge which supported a miniature train operation.  It was part of a small amusement park operation.  The train was abandoned sometime in the early-to-mid 1980s.

South of Elgin, Illinois along the north or east side of U.S. Hwy. 20 (Lake St.) some old boy had a nice piece of land and a 12-to-15 inch gauge railroad spiked down on it.  I remember riding it once during the 1960s, but I don't recall if it was steam or gasoline powered.

Sometime between 2000 and 2002 I rode the St. Louis Zoo railroad.  It was operating quite nicely then and I suspect it's still going today.

For many years Mr. Ed Gerlitz operated a narrow gauge railroad (2-ft. gauge?) at Heritage Square in Golden, Colo.  The majority, if not all of the locomotives, were steam powered with many having been built in Germany and/or Austria.  There was quite a bit of track too.  Anyway, Mr. Gerlitz retired and quit running trains.  I don't remember if he sold the fixed plant and equipment, but I've heard that maybe someone else is operating the railway.  Not sure.

Does anyone know the fate of the Centerville & Southwestern miniature railway that operated in southern New Jersey?  The railway is profiled in the first book I ever bought with my own money, "Little Railways of the World" by Frederick Shaw. 

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Posted by spokyone on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:31 PM
 ChuckCobleigh wrote:
 CShaveRR wrote:

Not an amusement park, but Brookfield Zoo had a miniature railroad that operated roughly around its perimeter until about 1980 or so.



St. Louis Zoo had a little train running around the grounds, at least in the early eighties.  Can't tell from Google Earth now, for sure, but then again, it's been 23 years since we were there.

St.Louis zoo train still  going round and round.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:24 AM
 spokyone wrote:
 ChuckCobleigh wrote:
 CShaveRR wrote:

Not an amusement park, but Brookfield Zoo had a miniature railroad that operated roughly around its perimeter until about 1980 or so.



St. Louis Zoo had a little train running around the grounds, at least in the early eighties.  Can't tell from Google Earth now, for sure, but then again, it's been 23 years since we were there.

St.Louis zoo train still  going round and round.

I'm pretty sure the one at the Detroit Zoo is, as well.

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:25 PM
 CShaveRR wrote:

Riverview closed in 1967.  My family went there a couple of times in its last years, and those trains were "diesel" powered by that time.

Not an amusement park, but Brookfield Zoo had a miniature railroad that operated roughly around its perimeter until about 1980 or so.

Carl, et al interested:

The Brookfield Zoo (aka Chicago Zoological Park) in suburban Chicago had two 20-ton working steam engines.

First, there was an earlier train from 1962-1968, but amusement-park scale, where the engineer sat on top of the tender. Then the two real narrow-gauge, coal-fired locomotives arrived, the first in 1968. New, heavier trackwork (23.62 inch or 60mm gauge) was installed and roadbed upgraded as the engines weighed about 20 tons each. Two long trestles were built on the west end of the park (each about 125 feet long).

The engines, cars and infrastructure was graciously donated to the county-owned zoo by railfan and live-steamer Elliott Donnelly, of Bell telephone-book printing fame and fortune.

Locomotive No. 1 was an 0-8-0 built in 1918 and used in industry in Germany's Black Forest; for the zoo it was converted by Sandley Light Railway Equipment Works (Wisconsin) to a 2-8-0 Consolidation and repainted as a Milwaukee Road Hiawatha.

No. 242 (a 2-4-2) was built new in 1972 by Sandley, and was painted in C&O colors. They pulled passenger coaches around the perimeter of the huge, 220-acre park, about a 1.5-mile run. The Zoo also had a replica diesel-style switcher running off a Jeep engine, dressed as CB&Q 999. 

After many years of use, the Zoo RR shut down in 1985.

It was a crime how those two workhorses were stored after being decommissioned -- Cook County's stupid lazy patronage workers put them away in an unheated barn without even emptying the fireboxes or cleaning out the ash pans. They literally rotted away in storage until they finally were rescued around 2002 -- by the same Donnelly family -- and sent to the Hesston Steam Museum in LaPorte, Indiana. After several years of restoration, I believe they're running again.

 

I know about these beauties because my high school was located right behind the zoo (ah, coal smoke mixed with ripe animal smells on hot summer days!). During class it was very hard to concentrate while listening to those whistles tooting merrily. Took me right out of the schoolroom and into my dream summer job -- workin' on the zoo railroad. Of course, even though I applied every year, and through college, alas -- I never was chosen and ended up working on the docks at a steel company. Which paid more, and got me conditioned to play football in the fall, but was nowhere near as much fun. 

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Posted by espeefoamer on Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:02 PM
In the late50s/early 60s,there was a small amusement park in Pico Rivera Ca.about 15 mi.east of L.A. near my home.They had a 18 in.gauge railroad with a live steam 2-6-2.On Saturdays I could hear the whistle.In the mid 70s this engine ran at Legg Lake in Whittier,CA. I got to know the crew and got to run the engine a couple of times. The engine was built  in 1901 for the Venice Miniature Railway,in that CA.city.
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Posted by Green Bay Paddlers on Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:38 PM

Hillcrest Park in Lemont, IL.  Recently closed...  They had a great train loop that was fun to ride.  Here is a link:

 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:29 PM

Some years back, There was a pretty extensive train ride around the Knoxville, Tennessee Zoo. It was visible from I-40's lanes.

     I never rode it, but I wonder if anyone has any details on this Zoo Attraction? Any details would be appreciated. Thanks. 

 

 


 

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:50 PM

Two others that are still going in California. 

Of course, the first one I forgot is right outside our World Famous San Diego Zoo and is actually now owned by the Zoo Society.  I probably haven't ridden it for fifty years or so (it's been there almost sixty years) but it is still a popular ride for kiddies, I think. Basically, it looks like a Santa Fe streamliner in maybe a little smaller than 1/5 scale, goes through a little tunnel.  Costs $1.75 for the three-minute ride.

The second one is just south of Sonoma on CA 12, at Train Town, where two 15" gauge steamers pull passengers around an interesting route.  This one I rode thirty years ago and haven't gotten north of SF since, but I expect that it is still an interesting ride.  (And after chugging around, you can visit a few of the wineries in the area and take the tours.  Lot's of fun, or even go over to Napa and take the wine train.)

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Doublestack on Friday, December 1, 2006 2:35 AM

Bay Beach amusement park here is Green Bay has a nice "layout".   The trains (3 F-Units) are painted in a scheme that honors the Soo Line / WC passenger units from the 50's.   Road #'s represent actual units from that roster (#2500, #500 and #715 (WC GP-30 preserved at the Natl RR Museum in Green Bay.)  (I got to help with the repainting project about 10 yrs ago).  WC donated the paint (pre-CN abomination).   The locomotives were built by a company in Renselaer, IN.  Propane Powered.    Scroll down to a photo (not the greatest) about 1/2 way down the page.  http://www.ci.green-bay.wi.us/geninfo/baybeach_web/baybeach_rides.html

 The Milwaukee Zoo has a very nice small scale train w/ steam and diesel power as well.   Its rather large compared to most amusement park trains I've seen.  The steamer (live steam) is remarkably well done.  Its a Pacific if I recall correctly.   Here's a photo.   http://www.milwaukeezoo.org/map_train_station.html

Here's an interesting link to videos filmed on Park Trains

http://trains.uoregon.edu/drupal/parktrainvideos.html#milwaukee 

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 1, 2006 4:04 AM
  There was also one about 20 miles north of Kalamazoo, Michigan.  At the rural "Plank Road Farm amusement park.  It was about a mile long loop thru the woods.  Drove that thing for a summer.  Now I get to play with the real ones!!
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Friday, December 1, 2006 6:26 AM

When I was a youngster, there was an amusement park in my hometown of Sioux Falls, and it was known as "Joyland". It had a small train that ran on a loop of track through a tunnel that was made of concrete blocks, painted green. The train was pulled by a steam locomotive, and the wheel arrangement I think, was a 2-6-2. This amusement park was dismantled in the early to mid 1960's to make room for something else. And while I don't remember the exact location of this amusement park, I think it was in the general vacinity of 33rd Street and Minnesota Ave. Murphy Siding might know a little more about it, and I might ask him.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, December 1, 2006 9:17 AM
 CANADIANPACIFIC2816 wrote:

When I was a youngster, there was an amusement park in my hometown of Sioux Falls, and it was known as "Joyland". It had a small train that ran on a loop of track through a tunnel that was made of concrete blocks, painted green. The train was pulled by a steam locomotive, and the wheel arrangement I think, was a 2-6-2. This amusement park was dismantled in the early to mid 1960's to make room for something else. And while I don't remember the exact location of this amusement park, I think it was in the general vacinity of 33rd Street and Minnesota Ave. Murphy Siding might know a little more about it, and I might ask him.

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Posted by jchnhtfd on Friday, December 1, 2006 10:13 AM
Lake Compounce, on the Bristol - Southington town line in Connecticut, still has the 'Lake Train'.  This one is, as I recall, gasoline powered -- or certainly was at one time.  It has an interesting history, having once been owned by the actor Will Gillette and was in operation at his 'Castle' on the Connecticut River for many many years.  After he died, Lake Compounce (which was started as a classic end-of-the-line trolley amusement park about a century ago and has operated ever since!) bought it -- this must have been just about World War II -- and has operated it ever since.
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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Friday, December 1, 2006 10:52 PM

Story about the guy who recently saved the Vilas Zoo train in Madison, Wisconsin:

Zoo train saved

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 14, 2007 8:22 PM

When my parents were having their dream home built in Hanover Park

we used to go to the railroad loop outside of Elgin you mentioned. It

was called thr hoot toot and whistle railroad and was steam operated

as I recall. The property has been an RV lot for quite a while and the

original station is well cared for by the dealer. road the train circa 1961

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