SP Heritage unit

[broncoman]

I heard they are going to keep it on the I-5 coridor for now. Mabee I'll get lucky and catch it in Cajon next weekend. Wouldn't that be cool Brian.

Has it left Roseville yet.  It was still in the shop in Roseville on Sunday night?

 

[senshi]

The SP heritage loco istied for second in my book.  I personlly find the DRG&W heritage to look teh best to me.  Then comes C&NW and SP at a tie right behind.

[chad thomas]

I heard they are going to keep it on the I-5 coridor for now. Mabee I'll get lucky and catch it in Cajon next weekend. Wouldn't that be cool Brian.

[Anonymous]

Yeah it's nice, but will it ever make its way over to the eastern part of the old SP. I live within 2hrs of ex-MP,MKT,and SP tracks but the MP and MKT heritage units seem locked between St. Louis and Chicago.

[METRO]

See now this is a beautiful engine. I've been hoping that there would be a heritage engine with some cuves to it rather than all of the angular engines we've seen. Great art-deco revival thing going on. Now why couldn't they make the CNW unit look that good? Haha!

Cheers!
~METRO

[UPTRAIN]

the MKT unit used a scheme i cant even find pictures of on railpix. it really should have been green with the tiger striped nose or something.

 

MKT painted their diesels red from the 1940's to the 1970's.  They recreated the pickle and mustard scheme by alternating the two different hues of red.

[mudchicken]

Throw dirt on it or leave it in a tunnel for a few hours (and bake to suit)

[solzrules]

IT looks okay, I guess.  I was really hoping for a bloody-nose job like their later diesels had.  It'll have to do. 

[Bob-Fryml]

UP 1996 looks really striking all dressed-up in its pseudo, quasi, ersatz, combined "Daylight" and "Black Widow" paint schemes.  The equipment below the frame painted either light gray or silver really sets off the locomotive body decoration well.  And the name "SOUTHERN PACIFIC" appearing on the side of this locomotive in a railroad roman font adds to the class of the unit.

But I have one question about one of the colors used.

Did the paint shop that decorated this unit use an industrial laquer for the red striping (something like Dupont Imron), or did they apply multiple coats of red ink left over from the Espee's accounting department?

 

[Railfan1]

I think it looks good but when will some of the heritage units make it into georgia on some run through trains

It will probably be a while, we will have to wait for the new to wear off.

[chad thomas]

Well it doesn't make me want to vomit like I expected I would. Actually I would have rather seen something like the bloody nose scheme. But I must admit it is a nice looking unit.

[videomaker]

I agree with with you Silicon,but I dont see anything blackwidow about it, other than the black top...Looks more daylight to me..Compare it to 4449 and see what I mean... Danny 

[Lord Atmo]

and it really does look nice on the black like that. i REALLY want to see this thing in person

anyone have any night time shots of it?

[silicon212]

I would definately say that the later heritage units are looking better and better, but I don't think this was the best daylight scheme.  First of all, it looks terrible on those silver trucks.  The daylight, in order to be bright, was designed for black trucks - let the strips stand out on its own.  I might have done a black underdarriage, but left the fuel tank silver (there would have been some silver on the grids of the E8)  Second of all, there are a few too many stripes.  Thin up the red ones on the nose, and on the black band at the bottom of the cab, get rid of the middle stripe entirely.  That, and at least use decent numbers on the side of the cab - not that thick plain lettering.

This was a good comparison : E8 in daylight, and the heritage unit.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=155741

Keep in mind that although the daylight type scheme is dominant, this is actually a mixture of elements from both Daylight and Black Widow.  Pure Daylight it ain't, plus the red is too bright.

[cpbloom]

It looks great but my money is still on Katy as the best heritage unit.

Sorry man, but I say the SP herritage unit looks catchy, but not all that good. My money is on the CN&W herritage unit.

CNW ? Thats my second best!

[Lord Atmo]

the MKT unit used a scheme i cant even find pictures of on railpix. it really should have been green with the tiger striped nose or something.

which is why i must say i greatly prefer this SP one to that.

are all those white stripes seriously scotchlight tape?!?!   DUDE!!!   i have GOT to see this come to Altoona sometime at night. i need a picture of that reflective tape glowing and making this beast come to life!

i like the paint style. i find that the way they used black paint and the daylight parts really makes this locomotive look nice. here's hoping it finds its way up here to Altoona!

[bushhog8fan]

I think it looks good but when will some of the heritage units make it into georgia on some run through trains

[stmtrolleyguy]

I would definately say that the later heritage units are looking better and better, but I don't think this was the best daylight scheme.  First of all, it looks terrible on those silver trucks.  The daylight, in order to be bright, was designed for black trucks - let the strips stand out on its own.  I might have done a black underdarriage, but left the fuel tank silver (there would have been some silver on the grids of the E8)  Second of all, there are a few too many stripes.  Thin up the red ones on the nose, and on the black band at the bottom of the cab, get rid of the middle stripe entirely.  That, and at least use decent numbers on the side of the cab - not that thick plain lettering.

This was a good comparison : E8 in daylight, and the heritage unit.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=155741

[Glen Ellyn]

It looks great but my money is still on Katy as the best heritage unit.

Sorry man, but I say the SP herritage unit looks catchy, but not all that good. My money is on the CN&W herritage unit.

[Andrew Falconer]

Those stripes are all retroreflective decals. These stripes will look brilliant at night with the right light source shining on them from the direction of the camera.

When will the nightime photos be taken of all the UP Heritage SD70ACe Locos?

Andrew

[cpbloom]

It looks great but my money is still on Katy as the best heritage unit.

[ValorStorm]

And I still think it's UGLY.

I'm trying hard to disagree...but it's difficult. The SP Heritage unit obviously appeals to the younger forum members. I think an updated Black Widow scheme would've rocked. The D&RGW unit remains the clear winner for me.

In other news, thanks to daniel3197 for posting a link OTHER than one from RailPictures dot net. Sadly, assimilation is so complete on that site, it is now the Borg Queen of spyware and adware.

[zugmann]

Dude... it's just PAINT.

Calm down - you'll live longer.

[UPTRAIN]

I really don't care if anybody likes it, I just get fricken tired of people talking about how good/bad it is and how good/bad UP and anybody else is.  Let there be rivalry, but there's way too much tension.  I'm out.

[Lord Atmo]

oh man. daylight on black. that looks so nice. me likey. i still wanna see an all-heritage consist towing a manifest of record length. have it start at the east coast and go all across the USA. THAT would truly make any "building america special" look spectacular. and i think that SD70ACE UP 8444 should be in the consist. what a train

[n012944]

 

I should have know the UP/Heritage Haters would decend on this topic.  Why do these things always have to be critiqued? 

 

Because that is what people do when something new comes out.  Just because the UP is doing something different does not mean everyone has to like it.

 

Bert

[silicon212]

ACK.

Did they pay the stripe painter by the foot?????

That is way too busy and complex.  Does not fit the style of the locomotive.


(an easterner's opinion)

 

I should have know the UP/Heritage Haters would decend on this topic.  Why do these things always have to be critiqued?  What does, "Each locomotive will feature a unique paint scheme, incorporating elements of one of the six major railroads that have merged with Union Pacific." mean to the people who gripe at these?  They're unique paint schemes, not replications.  Dang.  And no, the "stripe painter" didn't get paid by the foot...they are reflective decals.

For those who think it's bloody nose and not daylight: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=155683 .  I thought it was all scarlett red.

 

Now for me, I like the fact they incorpertated the daylight steam type of paint diagram, I like more black than what was on the diesels, and the transition between the Black Widow and the Daylight, I think that part it simply a bit of genious!

The diesel Daylight Red is not as bright as Scarlet Red - go into a modeling shop and look at the two different colors.

[zugmann]

I'll critique what I want to critique, thank you very much.


And I am not a UP hater ... I make fun of UP haters.

And I still think it's UGLY.

[UPTRAIN]

ACK.

Did they pay the stripe painter by the foot?????

That is way too busy and complex.  Does not fit the style of the locomotive.


(an easterner's opinion)

 

I should have know the UP/Heritage Haters would decend on this topic.  Why do these things always have to be critiqued?  What does, "Each locomotive will feature a unique paint scheme, incorporating elements of one of the six major railroads that have merged with Union Pacific." mean to the people who gripe at these?  They're unique paint schemes, not replications.  Dang.  And no, the "stripe painter" didn't get paid by the foot...they are reflective decals.

For those who think it's bloody nose and not daylight: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=155683 .  I thought it was all scarlett red.

 

Now for me, I like the fact they incorpertated the daylight steam type of paint diagram, I like more black than what was on the diesels, and the transition between the Black Widow and the Daylight, I think that part it simply a bit of genious!