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BNSF coal trains in Chicago......
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:47 PM
I was in Chicago for 2 weeks and noticed some interesting train movements in area.

BNSF coal train on ex GTW trackage, does anybody know where they were delivering that train?

On BRC trackage, Pullman Jct. I saw another BNSF coal train going eastbound to the lake. Is, their a train to ship loading facility in south Chicago?

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BNSF coal trains in Chicago......
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:47 PM
I was in Chicago for 2 weeks and noticed some interesting train movements in area.

BNSF coal train on ex GTW trackage, does anybody know where they were delivering that train?

On BRC trackage, Pullman Jct. I saw another BNSF coal train going eastbound to the lake. Is, their a train to ship loading facility in south Chicago?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:23 PM
quintin
they where probably going to interchange the coal train with Cn Ns or Csx.I have seen a lot of run through power here on Csx in Defiance.Csx uses Bnsf and Up engines with their crews.Saves time in the yards.Hope this helps.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:23 PM
quintin
they where probably going to interchange the coal train with Cn Ns or Csx.I have seen a lot of run through power here on Csx in Defiance.Csx uses Bnsf and Up engines with their crews.Saves time in the yards.Hope this helps.
stay safe
joe

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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:06 PM
Could this train be a Detroit Edison (DETX) ? There was a fairly regular run of western coal switching to BRC rails in Cicero jct & then reaching GTW rails from Hayford jct, just south of their old Elsdon yards. They had a mix of coal gons or regular coal cars on this run. Or like JoeKoh says they have a connection through Pullman jct to other eastern roads. I doubt if any of this coal could be used by any of the steel mills remaining in the Gary ind area, or if it would be loaded onto one of the lake ore boats.

With so many railroads, there's always something interresting going on in Chicago. Plenty of public places to get your photo or just observe what is happening. Be careful and be safe!
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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:06 PM
Could this train be a Detroit Edison (DETX) ? There was a fairly regular run of western coal switching to BRC rails in Cicero jct & then reaching GTW rails from Hayford jct, just south of their old Elsdon yards. They had a mix of coal gons or regular coal cars on this run. Or like JoeKoh says they have a connection through Pullman jct to other eastern roads. I doubt if any of this coal could be used by any of the steel mills remaining in the Gary ind area, or if it would be loaded onto one of the lake ore boats.

With so many railroads, there's always something interresting going on in Chicago. Plenty of public places to get your photo or just observe what is happening. Be careful and be safe!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:45 AM
I can't remember the reporting marks, but I know that the cars were black with yellow or green ends. Interesting.

Also, side note. NS runs a train from CN (IC) to their Calumet Yard at night. Where does this train orignate? Does any body know? Plus, Chicago Rail Link and CWP did they merge?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:45 AM
I can't remember the reporting marks, but I know that the cars were black with yellow or green ends. Interesting.

Also, side note. NS runs a train from CN (IC) to their Calumet Yard at night. Where does this train orignate? Does any body know? Plus, Chicago Rail Link and CWP did they merge?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, July 25, 2003 7:06 AM
It sounds like coal cars bound for detroit edison.probably steel from chicago area to points east.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, July 25, 2003 7:06 AM
It sounds like coal cars bound for detroit edison.probably steel from chicago area to points east.
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joe

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, July 25, 2003 10:21 AM
The cars with yellow and green ends go to Consumers Energy. Many go to West Olive, Michigan, between Holland and Grand Haven. I think that Consumers' plant in Essexville (near Bay City) also gets their coal this way.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, July 25, 2003 10:21 AM
The cars with yellow and green ends go to Consumers Energy. Many go to West Olive, Michigan, between Holland and Grand Haven. I think that Consumers' plant in Essexville (near Bay City) also gets their coal this way.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 12:07 PM
givey,

You mentioned that you railfanned at Pullman Jct. I thought Pullman was in a somewhat unsafe area. What was your experience? Did you fell safe or not? Do you recommend that Chicago area railfans go to Pullman?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 12:07 PM
givey,

You mentioned that you railfanned at Pullman Jct. I thought Pullman was in a somewhat unsafe area. What was your experience? Did you fell safe or not? Do you recommend that Chicago area railfans go to Pullman?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bearclaw36

givey,

You mentioned that you railfanned at Pullman Jct. I thought Pullman was in a somewhat unsafe area. What was your experience? Did you fell safe or not? Do you recommend that Chicago area railfans go to Pullman?


Yes Pullman Jct. is in unsafe area. Railfaning there is hit and miss. While I was there, I saw some NS double stacks and transfers. BRC coal drags and CRL trains. I didn't have a scanner availible and plus I didn't stay after the trains rolled past. The best location to view the trains, is on 93rd street where NS crosses BRC and CRL north to the Verson steel plant (Which is closed down). Please, don't go after dark. Very unsafe if you know the area.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 2:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bearclaw36

givey,

You mentioned that you railfanned at Pullman Jct. I thought Pullman was in a somewhat unsafe area. What was your experience? Did you fell safe or not? Do you recommend that Chicago area railfans go to Pullman?


Yes Pullman Jct. is in unsafe area. Railfaning there is hit and miss. While I was there, I saw some NS double stacks and transfers. BRC coal drags and CRL trains. I didn't have a scanner availible and plus I didn't stay after the trains rolled past. The best location to view the trains, is on 93rd street where NS crosses BRC and CRL north to the Verson steel plant (Which is closed down). Please, don't go after dark. Very unsafe if you know the area.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, July 25, 2003 3:51 PM
another up coal run through on csx today.more pictures for mookie.
stay safe
joe
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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, July 25, 2003 3:51 PM
another up coal run through on csx today.more pictures for mookie.
stay safe
joe
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