Train Tickets

[csxns]

Back in the Seaboard Coast Line days in Lincolnton North Carolina a empty hopper train was clocked by a city cop and he ran allongside the RR with blue light on and the engineer thought something was wrong and at the next crossing the engineer got a speeding ticket.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Quote me the rule, the number and page from the GCOR that says I cant talk to reporters. I talk to my cousin all the time, he is a reporter for the Houston Chronicle.
What rule in the Gcor?
Now, if you mean my employeer may, in their timetable and their general rules, prohibit me from discussing a accident, well, a judge may also prohibit you from discussing a case while the case is ongoing, beyond that, no one can forbid me from speaking to whomever I chose.
The Unihead Ed

[corwinda]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken
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(2) Political?-YES Something Hokey Go'in on?-YES ...really strange that they know the name of the engineer (railroad can't give it out - Gov't says that's illegal)

It sounds like the police had a scanner and spent some time researching the Senator's occupation etc. (The personal info was likely available through assorted public documents because he is a senator.) Had to have been planned ahead of time.

[Bergie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Scottydog

I don't understand this! Why does everything posted on this forum turn into a feud? I agree that no engineer will take off until he hears "OK to proceed" but instead of everyone jumping over each other, why not post what you read in any newspaper and then listen to the people who actually do the job. Civility costs nothing.
Pop.

Pop, you just won Post of the Week. [^] Now, if I only had something to award you.

I don't want the negativity of a few to drive away comments from many others. Try to maintain a certain level of tact when debating with other users. Step away from the computer for a few minutes and cool your jets before launching into someone. It's OK to disagree, just do it tastefully.

And finally, swearing is swearing. I don't care if you use symbols to get around the filter. If I see it, I'll delete it. Not just the word, the post. Please be good.

Thanks,
Erik

[kenneo]

Mudchicken --- You are square here, all four corners. Missouri and Company throw their cluster bombs to get attention. So, how you stop them is not to answer them or comment in your messages about them or even to mention them. Then they will go someplace else - any place as long as it is not near me or you!

Eric

[mudchicken]

(1) New forum, same jerk(s) trying to hijack it.....GO AWAY

(2) Political?-YES Something Hokey Go'in on?-YES ...really strange that they know the name of the engineer (railroad can't give it out - Gov't says that's illegal)

(3) Local Yokels out of control? Maybe- The yellow press there in Warren did not do a good job of stating the facts. Was the train completely stopped (ie-Not Switching) for the prescribed period...train moves even slightly and the clock starts over again from zero.... (Media and railroads usually don't mix - surprised they got the name of the operating railroad right, surprised they didn't call them B&O / C&O or one of their predecessors)

(4) Would not be surprised if the locals over stepped their boundaries (Fortunately, the feds can step in and over-rule as can the courts....)

(4)

[JoeKoh]

kev
got to the paper website. missori used his one in a billion shot.
joe

[Anonymous]

Exactly so the motto is...

Everyone in this world has the right to remain silent otherwise you will be misquoted by missouri, and that will be used aginst you!

I would love to know what the ACTUALL Quote is.. instead of the missouri version!

[sooblue]

Dah!!
Anyone can write anything on any subject. It doesn't mean it's correct.
REMEMBER this is Missiouris' subject.
If it's true They had it wrong, They should have given Him an award for PREVENTING a grade crossing accident.
By tieing up those crossings he saved at least 25 lives maybe 40!!
The Bushman needs to give him a medal and stand him up infront of congress at the next state of the union address.
Sooblue

[JoeKoh]

I checked it out Kev the story is real.politicians are playing games here in the buckeye state.
stay safe
joe

[eolafan]

Oh Kev, are you listening? PLEASE do your homework before slamming somebody or doubting somebody who knows what in he-- they are talking about. So, please take a moment and go to www.tribune-chronicle.com and you will find the Ohio newpaper I was talking about IS VERY, VERY REAL! Oh ye of little faith and no brains.

[Anonymous]

Deleted due to profanity.[:(!]
-Trains.com editorial

[wabash1]

Tim

If the train is blocking the crossing the crew will get a ticket. it is who ever goes down to take it from the cop is who gets it. and then the company pays.the fine.. its like a parking ticket only cost more. if you are in yard limits the yard master is the guy who is telling you what to do out on the road its the dispatcher and from there its the crews job to make sure crossing are not blocked.


missouri as ussual you have things all mixed up. the legal part of the gcro is that its is rules set down from the feds and if you brake them you are fired. But i would exspect you to learn this that is the reason they made velcro for the adults who still cant tie their shoes..

[edblysard]

Quote me the rule, the number and page from the GCOR that says I cant talk to reporters. I talk to my cousin all the time, he is a reporter for the Houston Chronicle.
What rule in the Gcor?
Now, if you mean my employeer may, in their timetable and their general rules, prohibit me from discussing a accident, well, a judge may also prohibit you from discussing a case while the case is ongoing, beyond that, no one can forbid me from speaking to whomever I chose.
The Unihead Ed

[Anonymous]

Who do you work for. I am sure the company you work for has the same arrangments. I work for the State of Illinios, we also are not allowed to talk to reporters. They have spokesmen on the payroll for protection FROM PERSONS LIKE YOU WHO LIKE TO MISQUOTE THE FACTS. And yes you have been found guillty of this on more than one occasion.
TIM A

[Anonymous]

The RULE says the train crews can't talk to reporters. That's a Freedom of Speech violation. You know the Constitution.

[Anonymous]

What ever

[eolafan]

OK Timmy, have it your way, if that makes you really happy.

[edblysard]

How in the world do you get constitutional law mixed into rotting ties?
What part of Federal Railroad Administration dont you get?
Man, you need to have your meds bumped up, a lot.
Or just stay in the basement longer.
Ed

[JoeKoh]

Pop
I agree.Missouri has this habit of leaving out information now we know the rest of the story.Like I said its a political shellgame here in ohio.They raise our taxes then find a 180 million dollar surplus.The've needed a school funding program for years and haven't come up with one and the medicare program in ohio needs revamped.We ohio taxpayers are caught in the middle.Missouri has never run a train.I have never run a train but I know who is in charge.
stay safe
joe

[Anonymous]

Pssst Ed. The GCOR is nothing LEGAL now is it? In fact it's unconstitutional when the crews aren't allowed to say "heck yeah these tracks were rotten is why the train derailed" or "if the dang railroad wasn't so cheap they would have put gates in there for us, cut the brush, and slowed the train speeds down through that BLIND crossing."

[edblysard]

Pssstt moron,
its part of the GCOR, the curent version, not your 1800s version, and in most states, they too have laws about blocking crossings, but again, the engineer is not in charge of the train, the conductor is. But your too stupid to read the rest of what I wrote, and having never worked around trains, or real people in the real world for that matter, you have no idea what your writing about.
Dumber that dirt.
Why dont you go screw around with the air traffic controlers?
The Unihead Ed

[Anonymous]

Pssst Ed. This is a state law NOT FRA. You think the FRA is actually going to have a law on something railroad related.

I believe the UTU turned him in because----State Senator Bob Hagan says remote control railroad devices are unsafe
COLUMBUS, Ohio --State Senator Bob Hagan (D-Youngstown) today called the use of remote control locomotive devices "unsafe and unproven." The statement comes in light of a recent trend among railroad companies to use remote control devices to operate locomotives.

Senator Hagan, a who is a locomotive engineer and a member of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers (BLE), has proposed legislation to prohibit the use of the remote controlled devices in Ohio and allow fines to be levied against companies that break the proposed law.

"It's obvious to many of us in the railroad community that we're jeopardizing the public's safety by using remote control devices," Senator Hagan said. "Locomotive engineers receive months of training both in the classroom and in the field before they are certified to operate a locomotive. Workers that are operating a locomotive using a remote control devise in lieu of an on-board engineer receive no more than one week of training. This is a recipe for disaster."

Senator Hagan's proposed legislation would fine railroad companies no less than $10,000 if they are found using remote control devices instead of locomotive engineers. The Public Utilities Commission of Ohio (PUCO) could be charged with enforcing the proposed law.

"It's arrogant for railroad companies to put profit ahead of safety or loyalty to their workers," Senator Hagan said. "Using remote control devices may save the company a little money now, but at what price to public safety?"


Tuesday, August 27, 2002

[JoeKoh]

This is an example why things don't get fixed.as we've stated before the gov't controls who gets funding for crossing improvements.Its a political shellgame.Csx will end up paying the $100 fine.But something still smells fishy here.
joe

[Anonymous]

I don't understand this! Why does everything posted on this forum turn into a feud? I agree that no engineer will take off until he hears "OK to proceed" but instead of everyone jumping over each other, why not post what you read in any newspaper and then listen to the people who actually do the job. Civility costs nothing.
Pop.

[Anonymous]

Sir, you are the one who trayed and slamed my knowledge. This is the first I have heard of this newspaper. As far as the name of the city there are several states that have a city called Youngstown. Just because you have knowledge of a certain area of the country, you should not assume everyone has that same knowledge. In my posting to missouri (and not to you) I asked for some clarification on this matter. You sir, are the one who responded with the ignorant statement.
TIM ARGUBRIGHT

[eolafan]

Tim, yes, as a matter of fact I do know of the Tribune-Chronicle. It is the primary newspaper of Warren, OH which is very close to Youngstown, OH, which is the largest "primary" city to the General Motors plant at Lordstown, OH which lies between Youngstown and Warren, OH

And, oh by the way, yes I am going to watch some trains today, but I suggest that before you do the same that you do some refreshing of your geography skills before you tray and "slam" my knowledge again.

[edblysard]

Hi Tim,
Kinda had the same idea before, that missouri had one name he used while he was at work, on their computer, and one he used at home in the basement.
But if your going to quote some one, then quote them, not paraphrase their words, or edit them to fit your needs.
Chaps me wrong when someone does that.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Anonymous]

Ed, I cannot prove it but I believe missouri and ringer are the same person. I have noticed this tactic in other threads. If this is true than that is proof positive that missouri is not interested in rail safty. And is doing this for the soul purpose of damaging this sight. I wi***he Editors would look into this matter.
TIM ARGUBRIGHT