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According to the 1857 rulebook

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Posted by cabforward on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:32 AM
mr miss,

since your so hot & all about safety, and have access to a rulebook from then, could you cite some numbers, please, about:

frequency of accidents on r.rs. in 1857, compared to csx's miles of laid track today? the figure should include:
accidents due to poor r-o-w;
" " " " bad signaling (trackside & crew);
" " " engine maintenance;
" " " crewmen between cars;
" " " poor r-o-w design;
" " " situations undefined by the rules..

mr miss,

i know you know the figures, or where they can be found, so let's stop playing games.. what is the death & accident rate today versus 1857?

if you can't answer the question, you have no right to criticize an industry, regardless of what sin it has committed..

i've been wanting to ask one question since you first appeared: who did you vote for in 2000? or, what is your political party or inclination (conserv, liberal, indep, other)?

in my mind, i'm guessing what it is.. ??

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:45 AM
It is strange how strong safety harnesses are. Never have had one break have you? But who needs safety harnesses when there are video monitors that could be put on the back of the trains. Let's see a video camera, a monitor, and a piece of coax.
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Posted by edblysard on Monday, June 16, 2003 11:40 PM
Due to slack action, and falling inbetween the cars, the life expectancy of any employee riding on top of a rail car was about three years.
A switchman was expected to lose at least two or more fingers within the first five years, and a toe or two during his career.
In 1857, railroading was the most dangerous profession, followed by being a solider or sailor.
More men died in railroad service than in any other profession.
You so stupid, you are making comparisons about a subject on which you show a tremendous lack of knowledge and common sense.
Tell you what, come on down, I put you on top of any railcar you chose, if you live through a simple shove from our recieving yard to the yard proper, I pay your doctor bills.
Not only is riding on top of a car against the rules, it against the rules of common sense, which you seem to lack in any amount.
Next to riding on a coupler, its about the fastest way to get killed.
Oh, in case you didnt notice, its not 1857 anymore. The reason they rode on top of the cars, so the engineer could see them, is because they didnt have radios. They died by the hundreds doing that.
The toads were right, you are dumb as dirt.
Has your momma let you outside, in the sunlight yet?
Hey, I think I will follow the toads advice, they do seem to be smarter than you.

WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE RULES IN 1857.
WE DONT CARE!
Ed

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Posted by louisnash on Monday, June 16, 2003 9:54 PM
I think that I have figured kind of where you got your info. I haven't figured if it was "Back to the Future 1,2,or 3."

I sure hate to think what you thought of at the end of Part 3 when the steam engine hit the Delorean at the end. There was even a crossing there you MORON!

Get a life Richard Cranium!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 16, 2003 9:34 PM
I was at a legion meeting, and got into a conversation with Tony Giaglo, a retired engineer from the old Illinios Central Gulf. He told me a story about a man they called Gunny Sack Joe. Gunny Sack Joe work as a fireman shoveling coal in the day's of steam. He and his wife settled in a town along the ICG near LaSalle Ill. When he married her they agreed to have children till they got there first girl. Well she gave him 6 Boy's before they got that girl. With so many children to feed things were tight in that household. Gunny Sack Joe heated his house with a coal furnace. When he was firing a locomotive through the town that he lived in he would fill the three Gunny Sacks that he carried with him with coal. (Hence the name Gunny Sack Joe.) When the sacks were full he would drop them off the train at the edge of town that he lived in. His two eldest boy's would then retreeve the sacks of coal, and pu***hem home in a wagon. Three sacks of coal do not seem like much but when you do it through out the summer, were talking full coal bin by fall. He cried like a baby when the ICG converted to diesel. Story has it, the next day he went out and bought a fuel oil furnace. Then started showing up to work with buckets.
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According to the 1857 rulebook
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 16, 2003 7:00 PM
http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Prr/Bor1857/rulebook1857.html $$$$ didn't dictate safety like it does today. The trains actually went at a decent speed.
Like the CSX employee who was rideing on the back of the train and killed this week in 1857 would have been on top of the train signaling to another employee near the cab and the engineer would have known what was behind.

They actually slowed down and stopped for passenger terminals back then.

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