Code of Operateing Rules

[Anonymous]

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/2257222/detail.html
http://www.sdrm.org/faqs/rulebook/toc.html

I find CSX in vilolation of no running lights on the rear of the train---no whistles on the rear of the train----no road guards on the rear of the train---and driveing backwards across city street without beepers going off on a commercial vehicle.

[cabforward]

why do you seldom see elephants in college?



so few of them finish high school!

[louisnash]

Rule#1-who cares
Rule#2-who cares
Rule#3-who cares
Believe it or not these are the Code of Operating Rules for M&M. It is published in the book I wrote titled "WGABS about M&M"

Brian (KY)

[edblysard]

Come up for air.

[Anonymous]

The Insurance Company that's who.

[wabash1]

I can give you 2 differant answers to your qquestions. this is what you would like to hear call a cop and have the railroad and the crew ticketed for the m&m infractions. or the logical one is there is no such thing as running lights for trains other than a end of train device a flashing red light or red reflector. but if its a cut of cars there is no reason for it. also a red flag is suitable for end of train. I have no idea what a road gaurd is. as far as backing up over city streets its fine not a violation of any kind. and there is no need to have a beeper or a horn on the rear. and as far as those beepers go i wi***hey stick those up the manufacture back end. they are anoying and serve no perpose if you watch what you are dooing they wouldnt need them. (never mind that last staement these are the same people who dont stop look listen or live)

[Anonymous]

A red flag means nothing to the public. If your load is sticking out more than 5 feet you put a red flag on it. A crossing guard is like a person in a red vest with a stop/slow paddle sign in their hand. a train whistle is like a train whistle. Running lights include head lights/ditch lights. Backwards means a reverse movement authorized by WHO? The train crew that wasn't there? Goober on the other side of the train with the little belt pack he forgot to put under the train wheels? Who authorized this train movement with a truck in the way?

[edblysard]

What goober was stupid enough to put his truck in the way of a moving locomotive?
A train needs no authority from the public to operate on its right of way, its private property, and we can move in any direction we chose to, without your permission. We have the legal right of way. What part of that do you fail to understand? And if the crossing, in your opinion, needs a guard, please feel free to don whatever silly red, green or in your case, most fitting, yellow vest, your mickey mouse ears, and come on down.
Oh, and your home made rules will get you killed someday, try reading the GCOR, the current edition, april 02, 2000. The real railroad rules, instead of the nonsense you come up with. Sure you dont want to go and bother air traffic controllers?, I hear they fall asleep a lot. And allow airplanes to fly over your house, without your premission, and dont provide umbrella gaurds
on your roof to protect you from falling debris.
By the way, say hello to Ralph Nader for us.
And are you ever going to work up enough cajones to tell us who you really are, and who you work for, or are you just as much of a coward as mike p?
The Unihead Ed

[Anonymous]

Sounds like Goober belt pack operator was on the wrong side of the train dorko. Even tractor trailor drivers have their co-drivers get out and check what they are backing over. Called common courtesy and giveing a HOOT literally what they are running over. You don't have the right of way --- you have the common law duty to have the train seen and heard. Now get to bed because tommorow you might impress someone with your dribble.

[edblysard]

J,
This is really funny.
Yesterday, I printed up a persons postings, in chronological order, and sent them with my middle daughter, who was spending the night at a friends house. Her friends father and I have know each other on a personal and professional level for 20 years. He is a profiler who does work Texas Rangers, and the local office of the FBI.
He just droped off my daughter, and his findings.
Man, this is really rich.
I wont mention any names, due to not wishing to embarass the person profiled, besides, they do a fine and outstanding job of that all by themselves.
White male, middle age.
5'9" to 6' tall.
Weight 230 to 250lbs
Brown hair, thinning with male pattern baldness since early teens.
Wears glasses to drive.
Left handed, but forced to write right handed as a child. (got to ask how he got that)
Married, but divorced within two years of marriage, no children.
10 grade education, may possess a high school equivelency certificit.
Chronicly unemployeed, but is currently employeed in shift work, or assembly line work at slightly above minimun wage with no apparent carreer path .
Lives alone in a apartment, no pets, no hobbies.
Drives pre 1998 mid sized coupe or sedan, blue or black.
Social outcast since early childhood, lacking in social skills, due in large part to parental insistence.( had to call him on that, means he's a mammas boy, she kept him inside and wouldnt let him play with the "bad" kids)
Psychological.
Subject suffers from chronic clinical depression since puberty.
May have undergone involuntary treatment as a adolescent, but as an adult, no longer does so on a voluntary basis.
Deivant behaiviour.
(based on writen material only, no vocal sample offered)
Content analysis indicates no latent homosexuality, but does indicates a supressed Oedipus complex, in conjunction with a distinct fear of personal contact outside of immediate family.
Logic process.
Based on contex and style, subject exhibits a non-linear thinking process, with limited spatial processing evident in problem solving circumstances.
Criminal history.
No evidence of current criminal activity.
Minor automotive or traffic citations,
class c misdomeanor sexual misconduct,
no conviction or incarication.
Summary:
Subject feels ostricized by society, typicaly furstrated by the concept he is not getting what he deserves. Subject is a social outcast, prone to violent verbal outburst only under conditions that allow anonymity, in person will offer a meek and docile facade.
Subject may have tried to gain employment for a railroad, or may have been hired, only to have beed fired shortly thereafter.
Subjects early childhood would have been one where the dominent figure was a female, most likly subject's mother or aunt. No strong masculine figure appers to have been present during the subjects early development stages, through puberty and into adolescent and teenage years.
Subject was non-social during junior and high school years, most likely married the first woman he dated.
As is typical with most person who suffer depression, subject, on the surface, seems to posses a know it all attitude and an assured stance, but in reality lacks self confidence and self motovation. This subject is a follower, who lacks the ability to think in a linear fashion, (ie, from point A to point B to point C and so on), but also lacks the spatial logic to solve complex problems.
Subject exhibits Oedipus complex, simple.
Lacking a male role model, subject associates best with older, assertive women, and exhibits a sexual submissiveness to females who head a household.
Subject has no criminal history to speak of, although subject most likley has been cited for solicitaion.
Expect no overt criminal behaviour.
External appearence of subject would stand out in todays soceity, subject will perfer slacks, olive or kaki, dark loafers, light colored short sleeved shirt with oxford collar, no tie, non descript eyewear, no hat. Subject will appear to be a slightly older "nerd" but will often seek employment in traditionaly masculine jobs, railroader, truck driver, maritime, ect.
Lacking other material, I would suggest you look at other web sites involving transportaion, trucker sites and such for other messages from this subject. My gut feeling is this person will have issues with most types of professions he has either been rejected from or thoses he feels have treated him in an unjust manner.
Discount the portion of the postings dealing with the "loss" of a loved one. Pure fabrication lifted from a combination of other postings. Only in fiction is the term "lost" applied to persons. In reality, women use the term "passed away" or "passed on", and men traditionlay use the term died. Of note is the fact that the circumstances of the "loss" change from one statement to another, and there is no real thread or focus to this persons writing, besides an aggressive attempt to provoke anger from thoses he is writing to and about.
Consistant with the conspiracy theory, (they are out to get us concept)indicates this subject lacks the capacity for original thought, subject is a follower who picks up on anothers train of thought, (pun intended) and elaborates on the concepts or theories of thoses he mimics.
This subject is obssesive in their pursuit of what subject feels is justice, although subject make no clear statement or continuious concept as to what is wrong, or how it should be corrected.
Personally, I think you are dealing with a lonely looney toon.

Uh, wow.
Ed

[JoeKoh]

co-driver for a semi?I know some people drive in teams but most are still on the road themselves and BOOM what was that?well they cant read too well can they?They just turned their trailer into a heap of scrap metal.the viaduct is is only 10'8".That red light coming home no the truck driver was in too much of a hurry to eat lunch at the truck stop almost tipped the trailer over going around the corner.No missouri these people here really do give a hoot about what goes on in the real world.But you don't live in the real world do you clown?
stop look listen and live
stay safe
joe

[JoeKoh]

hey ed
why was the clown mad?


the monkeys stole his nuts!
stay safe
joe

[wabash1]

well sorry to say you are wrong again its 4 ft. and anything you say means nothing to the public or anyone here. oh and movements are authorized by me. if i am controlling the move its me. so come on and look me up next time i am shoving ill exsplaine to you what you think you know and set you straight on the rules. running lights are the cab lights in the engine and the stairs the head lights are just that. head lights. and ditch lights are optional. you dont haft to have them. and goober did just fine with the remote box. didnt hit on guy the stop look listen and lived. good day i think.

[wabash1]

Ed

wow i guess the facts and statistics dont lie just ask missouri and mike. lol

[edblysard]

Wait a minute, lets see if I have this straight.
The blasting horn, ringing bell, loud as a small jet engine locomotive dosnt make enough noise, so that a crummy little beeper makes some kind of difference? And we dont have "running lights" thats on cars, trucks and boats. Phsst, I will let you in on a secret, we dont have brake lights or turn signals either.
And what was the goober doing stopped in the middle of a railroad crossing? another "stalled" truck? Thoses silly things, they never seem to stall anywhere else but in the middle of a crossing. Wi***hey would quit doing that, its hard on the paint.
Ed
By the way, whats your real name?

[Anonymous]

Ed, I logged on at work and showed his postings to a Investigator who is currently studying to be a Internet profiler. He was fasinated with His postings for this is the kind of material they study in class. (Different subject but pattern of writing is the same.) He could not come up with a discription of what he looked like but did say this Guy is definetly a Lonesome Loser who is useing his computer to get attention. He plans to show his instuctor.
TIM A

[edblysard]

Ask if he can come up with how my buddy discovered he was a lefty, my buddy said the chances we high due to certain errors in spelling and style. Lefties have a harder time with the style because certain functions on keyboards are on the wrong side for them.
The profile my friend did is several pages long, with a lot of anotations and refrences, rather complete given all he had to work with were the postings. And I edited it some, because cabforward is right, younger readers dont need to read what a Oedipus complex is, but it makes sense. My buddy said at first, he though the "subject" may still live at home, with his mamma, but the times on some of the posting indicated he lived alone, momma wouldnt have let sonny stay up that late.
Keep me tuned in, I would love to see what yuor friend comes up with.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Anonymous]

What's the profile on the greedy railroad operators who killed almost a thousand people a year and spend NOTHING on safety equipment? Who when install and sell safety equipment to and for the tax-payers make a small fortune in overcharges. The profilers will probably have to go down below the whale dung to find this info.

At least drunk drivers have a excuse and show some remorse.

[Mookie]

clue me in - what's their excuse? Or don't you answer questions from the feminine side of the forum?

Jen

[Anonymous]

They didn't know what they were doing where the robber baron rail lords know EXACTLY what they are doing because after killing people for 180 years in this country they are VERY GOOD at it. So good that even some of the Jennys of the world take up for the Jack-asses.

[Anonymous]

OH Gee there ED, Your trains are soooo out of date! Our EMD90MACS come with running, lights brake lights, and TURNING LIGHTS!

We even got cookie makers, LED turn and brake lights, we got the whole kit and cobuttle

even got the signs on the 90 MAc that says i make wide right turns too!

so when i'm signiling to turn, missouri don't cut me off.. like Ed said it's bad on the paint.. i hafta return the locomotive scratch free...

And now for the New stuff! garanteed to be the best ever!

The new Edible SD91MACs...
there made out of gingerbread.. but they tend to attract kids... MAYBE thats why the death toll is so high! (also the wicked witch lives inside that one.. i nor anyone should disturb her)

LATER ON THIS year, we will release the new SD92mac's.. the new units will feature a silent motor, no horn.. and will not triger the crossing lights.. nobody will hear or see us comming seeing as these units come with a cloaking device.. the faster you go.. the more invisible you go!

A free ray gun is included! to shot at cars that jsut get too close.. no onw will ever know it was you, he1l they won't have even seen you!

but thats not all folks.. oh no.. i saved the best till last.. The brand new GE AC 8000CW will feature the all new technology.. BULL HORN! we replaced the standerd horn.. with a brand new BULL HORN! thats right! it will trigger crossings but in case some idiot stalls on the tracks.. it will pick it up.. thats right everyone it detects a stalled car.. and in a regular computerized voice it says

"Get Out Of The Way"

"You Are On RR Property"

"move your stalled vehicle"

"your going to be hit.. get out of the way"

Remeber folkes.. it picks up if soemthing is stalled on the tracks a full 10 seocndes beofre it is likely to impact them! As a safety messure, it will SELF activate!!

Remeber the bull horn system is fully upgradeable.. you may upgrade it to almost anyhting
upgrades include:

"MOVE Your Car off my tracks"

"didn't your mother ever teach you to take on a train?"

"Don't ruin your car, maaw will give you a spanking!"

" Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining"

and much much, much more.. percist that your RRs buy the EMD edible 91 mac, the silent 92 mac.. or the bullhorn 8000CW strongly reccomended by three finger larry, and me.. Honest kevin.


Detour kev.

[wabash1]

really drunk drivers show remorse. thats news to me maybe i should go to the drunks that killed people i know and see if he has remorsed yet. nah it wont do any good. he probley drunk again out mowing down inocent chidren on bikes with out his lights on not blowing his horn and no beeper when he is backing. becouse he bought off the lawyers and the judge to stay out of jail.

[wabash1]

Oh and that is the all popular excuse. they was drunk they didnt know what they was doing. and that is bull they know what they was doing. they didnt go into the bar for a church meeting. there was a meaning they went in there to drink and get drunk. the crime was that the bar should get sued and he should fry in the chair for murder. ( trust me i know what you are trying to do) see the bar tender should stop giving drinks to drunks and get them home in a cab, on railroading we have gates and bells and headlights and most everone stops. pleenty of warning a train is comming . with a drunk you get 5 sec of the man comming into your lane before he hits you. not hard to see the differance. unless your name is missouri.

[JoeKoh]

an excuse?remorse?what have you been smoking?
why do i read in the paper people charged with their 4th 5th 6th or more dui's?or the article saying a man that crashed into a house killing 4 kids that was his 11th dui?
no clown your are seriously wrong!
people have choices when drinking
get a designated driver
call a cab
crash at the friends house
crash in their car at their friends house
railroad people have no choice when someone doesn't stop look listen and live
trains can't stop on a dime
they can't turn either all they can do is pray
like I said before this is life in the real world no system is perfect butagain if people would stop look listen and live your chances are real good.and one more thing their clown I am stubborn as a mule about taking friends home after a party(i don't drink) and about saftey around trains so you just go back to your mamma little boy clown shes calling you for supper.
stay safe
joe

[Anonymous]

That's why trains are more out of control than any drunk driver ever thought of being unless they were drunk but hey than they couldn't stop or steer either so it wouldn't matter. By the way about 85 out of 100 crossings don't have gates just to keep the record straight. Yep the $$$ addiction of railroad operators kills a lot of people.

[JoeKoh]

thats why you stop look listen and live.
mamma's calling little clown time for you to go to bed.so people drive drunk are you going to say the beer manufactuers are murderers too?
stay safe joe

[Anonymous]

Well yeah. They like the tin can automakers who also have the politicans in their pockets.The automakers were told to get air bags in the vehicles in 1970 and they still after barely getting a few in a few vehicles don't have the bugs out of the air bags.

[sooblue]

Ok! Now I know your a nimrod.
You can't even name a car or pickup truck newer than 1999 that doesn't have an air bag in it.

Also in 1970 the auto makers didn't know what an airbag was. Fact is they were still haveing horsepower wars with their pony cars and were just getting seatbelts in the back seat.

You can fool some of the people all of the time all the people some of the time but you can't fool me jack.

Your so phony your even confusing yourself.

I wouldn't be supprised if the Doctor that birthed you slaped your mom instead of you!

You give the phrase "no brainer" new meaning.
Sooblue

[wabash1]

see this guy dont have all the facts about anything. but one last thing for the mis-informed (missouri and mikey) back in the early 80s just before it was going to be manditory to put gates on all upgraded crossing and new crossings a test was done. it was done by the railroad and the fra. the results was that they prefered to not have the gates because of one thing. It takes a car 3 sec longer to get around and in the clear of the gates and railroad. hence why so many people get hit. it only stops some but the die hards do just that die. but you will only say it is because they didnt want to spend the money. and kill more people. but i waited to tell the real story to finally close the issue on gates crossing and the all might dollar i get for hitting cars at crossinds. you have convinceed me and i will make it a issue with the unions that the crews start sueing the estates of the deceased to even the playing field of law suites

[louisnash]

Missouri's mom is so fat that when his friends yelled "KOOL-AID", she came crashing through the door.

She so fat that on her driver license picture it says see other side.

BRIAN (KY)