Originally posted by trainluver1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 8:14 PM Someone e-mailed me a picture today of a current Amtrak with an engine, express car and a mixture of five passenger cars-though I don't know what cars they might be, it's a good picture. I wish I could get a larger train on my layout like the one TheS.P.caboose described, but I don't want to have to build a new layout to do so... trainluver1 Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts did they have HEP Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 6:17 PM back then, that takes out a little bit of the power of the P42, plus I think they just do things to be careful. Brad Reply Edit passengerfan Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Central Valley California 2,841 posts Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, April 7, 2005 5:40 PM Remember back in the late 1930's and after WW II there were many so called seven car coach streamliners pulled by a single E-3 to E-7. The IC City of Miami, Sou Southerner, ACL Champions, SAL Silver Meteors, L&N/NC&STL Georgian, L&N Hummingbird, C&O Pere Marquettes,C&EI Whippoorwill, and CRI&P Rocky Mountain Rocket come immediatly to mind. So I guess the old E units were better than the new P42's operating today and the E units only developed 2,000 hp and ran on those long wheelbase A-1-A trucks. Reply TheS.P.caboose Member sinceMarch 2005 From: Canoga Park (Los Angeles) 494 posts Posted by TheS.P.caboose on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:54 PM On the Coast Starlight, the normal consist is: 2 units 2 baggage 1 coach/dorm 2 sleepers 1 diner 1 longe car 5 coach cars Hope this helps. Regards Gary Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:34 PM Watch the Ft. Madison cam from 1000 hours CDT foward. There is a A/trak that floats by every day & you can see the makup for yourself. Also, todays train had 3 locos. If you do not have the link here it is [:D][:o)][:I][:p] http://www.livetrains.com/plugins/cam/default.asp Originally posted by trainluver1 Originally posted by dldance [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:25 PM Hey guys. I had an Amtrak employee from California e-mail me out of the blue. He said that Amtrak usually limits one engine to every five passenger cars now a days, and maybe an express box or two. He said there's no certain way of making up a consist, and that it might be a diner, sleeper, coach or what ever depending on how they fall together as they pick them up. Thanks for all of your help with this. trainluver1 Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:10 AM The one I saw pass thru Daggett had the MHC right behind the loco. If others have seen it in other places of the consist that would mean their is no real protocol where in the consist the car is placed. [:o)][:p][:D] QUOTE: Originally posted by richardy QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay Once in a while the Superliner consists were reversed, I rode the SW Chief twice with my sleeper on the rear. I thought all of the Material Handling Cars (MHC) had HEP pass through, I'm not talking about the box cars and roadrailers. They always rode up front when I was riding western lines often. The longest SW Chief I saw, which I was riding, was (4) F40PH, (10) MHC, baggage, transition/crew sleeper, (3) coaches, lounge, diner, (2) sleepers, diner (not in service). Being in the last sleeper I could see much of the train on the curves. Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply richardy Member sinceDecember 2001 From: NE Oklahoma 287 posts Posted by richardy on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 8:46 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay Once in a while the Superliner consists were reversed, I rode the SW Chief twice with my sleeper on the rear. I thought all of the Material Handling Cars (MHC) had HEP pass through, I'm not talking about the box cars and roadrailers. They always rode up front when I was riding western lines often. The longest SW Chief I saw, which I was riding, was (4) F40PH, (10) MHC, baggage, transition/crew sleeper, (3) coaches, lounge, diner, (2) sleepers, diner (not in service). Being in the last sleeper I could see much of the train on the curves. Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:59 PM Well, wrong again. That's three. The real reason for eliminating the express business was because it blocked the view from the back of the Beech Grove. Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,790 posts Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:46 PM The AmBoxes, prior to the Roadrailers, rode up front between the power and the baggage car..... No. 5 (zephyr) was thru here yesterday in that configuration as it passed Utah Junction. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:14 PM I think reducing the power to one unit where possible for operations had more to do with cost savings rather than a shortage issue. Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply richardy Member sinceDecember 2001 From: NE Oklahoma 287 posts Posted by richardy on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:29 PM Generally Amtrak tries to position the diner next to the sleepers, the lounge next to the diner and the coaches next to the lounge. This arrangement keeps the foot traffic through the sleepers and the diner to a minimum. MHC were on the head end then on the rear. I did say generally because on combined trains it will be different. It was really interesting when the CZ was three sections all the way from Chicago to Salt Lake! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:03 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 all they can afford to equip the train with! dd Wow !. Those P-42s must be pretty powerful... trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:48 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 all they can afford to equip the train with! dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:45 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:34 PM 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:31 PM So what you're telling me dldance is that there is no absolute arrangement ?. How many engines were pulling your trains ?. "Thanks" trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:14 PM I just completed trips on train 51 and train 21. Train 51 had the following - 3 coachs, diner, and sleeper. Our train also had a private car added at Cincinnati at the end of the train. Train 21 had the following - baggage, sleeper, diner, lounge car, 3 coachs, and sleep. Note that the last coach and sleeper continue from the Texas Eagle to the Sunset Limited and continue to LA. dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Amtrak car arrangement... Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 6:21 PM Does anyone out there know how Amtrak might arrange their cars in a passenger train ?. I recently purchased a P-42 engine, material handling car and four superliner coaches, but I'm not sure how they're supposed to be placed in a train. I've heard that the material handling cars are now pulled at the rear of the train for easy drop off. Otherwise I've been running them - engine, baggage, coach, diner, sleeper. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Not knowing for sure bugs the ----out of me!... trainluver1 Reply Edit Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by trainluver1 Originally posted by dldance [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:25 PM Hey guys. I had an Amtrak employee from California e-mail me out of the blue. He said that Amtrak usually limits one engine to every five passenger cars now a days, and maybe an express box or two. He said there's no certain way of making up a consist, and that it might be a diner, sleeper, coach or what ever depending on how they fall together as they pick them up. Thanks for all of your help with this. trainluver1 Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:10 AM The one I saw pass thru Daggett had the MHC right behind the loco. If others have seen it in other places of the consist that would mean their is no real protocol where in the consist the car is placed. [:o)][:p][:D] QUOTE: Originally posted by richardy QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay Once in a while the Superliner consists were reversed, I rode the SW Chief twice with my sleeper on the rear. I thought all of the Material Handling Cars (MHC) had HEP pass through, I'm not talking about the box cars and roadrailers. They always rode up front when I was riding western lines often. The longest SW Chief I saw, which I was riding, was (4) F40PH, (10) MHC, baggage, transition/crew sleeper, (3) coaches, lounge, diner, (2) sleepers, diner (not in service). Being in the last sleeper I could see much of the train on the curves. Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply richardy Member sinceDecember 2001 From: NE Oklahoma 287 posts Posted by richardy on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 8:46 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay Once in a while the Superliner consists were reversed, I rode the SW Chief twice with my sleeper on the rear. I thought all of the Material Handling Cars (MHC) had HEP pass through, I'm not talking about the box cars and roadrailers. They always rode up front when I was riding western lines often. The longest SW Chief I saw, which I was riding, was (4) F40PH, (10) MHC, baggage, transition/crew sleeper, (3) coaches, lounge, diner, (2) sleepers, diner (not in service). Being in the last sleeper I could see much of the train on the curves. Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:59 PM Well, wrong again. That's three. The real reason for eliminating the express business was because it blocked the view from the back of the Beech Grove. Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,790 posts Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:46 PM The AmBoxes, prior to the Roadrailers, rode up front between the power and the baggage car..... No. 5 (zephyr) was thru here yesterday in that configuration as it passed Utah Junction. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:14 PM I think reducing the power to one unit where possible for operations had more to do with cost savings rather than a shortage issue. Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply richardy Member sinceDecember 2001 From: NE Oklahoma 287 posts Posted by richardy on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:29 PM Generally Amtrak tries to position the diner next to the sleepers, the lounge next to the diner and the coaches next to the lounge. This arrangement keeps the foot traffic through the sleepers and the diner to a minimum. MHC were on the head end then on the rear. I did say generally because on combined trains it will be different. It was really interesting when the CZ was three sections all the way from Chicago to Salt Lake! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:03 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 all they can afford to equip the train with! dd Wow !. Those P-42s must be pretty powerful... trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:48 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 all they can afford to equip the train with! dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:45 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:34 PM 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:31 PM So what you're telling me dldance is that there is no absolute arrangement ?. How many engines were pulling your trains ?. "Thanks" trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:14 PM I just completed trips on train 51 and train 21. Train 51 had the following - 3 coachs, diner, and sleeper. Our train also had a private car added at Cincinnati at the end of the train. Train 21 had the following - baggage, sleeper, diner, lounge car, 3 coachs, and sleep. Note that the last coach and sleeper continue from the Texas Eagle to the Sunset Limited and continue to LA. dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Amtrak car arrangement... Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 6:21 PM Does anyone out there know how Amtrak might arrange their cars in a passenger train ?. I recently purchased a P-42 engine, material handling car and four superliner coaches, but I'm not sure how they're supposed to be placed in a train. I've heard that the material handling cars are now pulled at the rear of the train for easy drop off. Otherwise I've been running them - engine, baggage, coach, diner, sleeper. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Not knowing for sure bugs the ----out of me!... trainluver1 Reply Edit Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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Originally posted by dldance [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:25 PM Hey guys. I had an Amtrak employee from California e-mail me out of the blue. He said that Amtrak usually limits one engine to every five passenger cars now a days, and maybe an express box or two. He said there's no certain way of making up a consist, and that it might be a diner, sleeper, coach or what ever depending on how they fall together as they pick them up. Thanks for all of your help with this. trainluver1 Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:10 AM The one I saw pass thru Daggett had the MHC right behind the loco. If others have seen it in other places of the consist that would mean their is no real protocol where in the consist the car is placed. [:o)][:p][:D] QUOTE: Originally posted by richardy QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay Once in a while the Superliner consists were reversed, I rode the SW Chief twice with my sleeper on the rear. I thought all of the Material Handling Cars (MHC) had HEP pass through, I'm not talking about the box cars and roadrailers. They always rode up front when I was riding western lines often. The longest SW Chief I saw, which I was riding, was (4) F40PH, (10) MHC, baggage, transition/crew sleeper, (3) coaches, lounge, diner, (2) sleepers, diner (not in service). Being in the last sleeper I could see much of the train on the curves. Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply richardy Member sinceDecember 2001 From: NE Oklahoma 287 posts Posted by richardy on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 8:46 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay Once in a while the Superliner consists were reversed, I rode the SW Chief twice with my sleeper on the rear. I thought all of the Material Handling Cars (MHC) had HEP pass through, I'm not talking about the box cars and roadrailers. They always rode up front when I was riding western lines often. The longest SW Chief I saw, which I was riding, was (4) F40PH, (10) MHC, baggage, transition/crew sleeper, (3) coaches, lounge, diner, (2) sleepers, diner (not in service). Being in the last sleeper I could see much of the train on the curves. Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:59 PM Well, wrong again. That's three. The real reason for eliminating the express business was because it blocked the view from the back of the Beech Grove. Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,790 posts Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:46 PM The AmBoxes, prior to the Roadrailers, rode up front between the power and the baggage car..... No. 5 (zephyr) was thru here yesterday in that configuration as it passed Utah Junction. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:14 PM I think reducing the power to one unit where possible for operations had more to do with cost savings rather than a shortage issue. Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply richardy Member sinceDecember 2001 From: NE Oklahoma 287 posts Posted by richardy on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:29 PM Generally Amtrak tries to position the diner next to the sleepers, the lounge next to the diner and the coaches next to the lounge. This arrangement keeps the foot traffic through the sleepers and the diner to a minimum. MHC were on the head end then on the rear. I did say generally because on combined trains it will be different. It was really interesting when the CZ was three sections all the way from Chicago to Salt Lake! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:03 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 all they can afford to equip the train with! dd Wow !. Those P-42s must be pretty powerful... trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:48 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 all they can afford to equip the train with! dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:45 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:34 PM 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:31 PM So what you're telling me dldance is that there is no absolute arrangement ?. How many engines were pulling your trains ?. "Thanks" trainluver1 Reply Edit dldance Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Near Promentory UT 1,590 posts Posted by dldance on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:14 PM I just completed trips on train 51 and train 21. Train 51 had the following - 3 coachs, diner, and sleeper. Our train also had a private car added at Cincinnati at the end of the train. Train 21 had the following - baggage, sleeper, diner, lounge car, 3 coachs, and sleep. Note that the last coach and sleeper continue from the Texas Eagle to the Sunset Limited and continue to LA. dd Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Amtrak car arrangement... Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 6:21 PM Does anyone out there know how Amtrak might arrange their cars in a passenger train ?. I recently purchased a P-42 engine, material handling car and four superliner coaches, but I'm not sure how they're supposed to be placed in a train. I've heard that the material handling cars are now pulled at the rear of the train for easy drop off. Otherwise I've been running them - engine, baggage, coach, diner, sleeper. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Not knowing for sure bugs the ----out of me!... trainluver1 Reply Edit Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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QUOTE: Originally posted by richardy QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay Once in a while the Superliner consists were reversed, I rode the SW Chief twice with my sleeper on the rear. I thought all of the Material Handling Cars (MHC) had HEP pass through, I'm not talking about the box cars and roadrailers. They always rode up front when I was riding western lines often. The longest SW Chief I saw, which I was riding, was (4) F40PH, (10) MHC, baggage, transition/crew sleeper, (3) coaches, lounge, diner, (2) sleepers, diner (not in service). Being in the last sleeper I could see much of the train on the curves.
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton Confirming richardy, for Superliner equiped trains it is engine(s), heritage baggage car, transition sleeper, regular sleepers, diner, lounge, coaches, express cars and/or Roadrailers. Anybody know for sure? I thought the express cars did not have HEP lines and had to be on the rear. Also, they may be off now, but in November express cars could be seen on the Southwest Chief. Jay
"We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics
QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1 all they can afford to equip the train with! dd
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainluver1 QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd I heard Amtrak had cut back to one engine per train. So how many passenger cars can a single engine pull I wonder ?. trainluver1
QUOTE: Originally posted by dldance 1 engine on each train. Amtrak motive power is getting spread quite thin so that trains that used to routinely have 2 engines now are operated with one - unless ruling grades absolutely require 2. dd
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