Originally posted by Capt Carrales [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply tatans Member sinceMay 2004 4,115 posts Posted by tatans on Friday, April 1, 2005 4:51 PM Meshugeh and Buses. One must find out just who will use the system, as it will cost millions and millions. The city of Calgary was told not to put in a Light Rail system as the city is under 1 million population,so they went ahead anyway, got very expensive trains from Germany and I'm sure this system will bury us in debt, it costs millions and millions per mile and maintenance is out of this world and STILL over 80% of the population still use their cars, great success eh? Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Trolley's In Coprus Christi, Texas- I'm finding myself against them!!! Am I just Messugah? Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:35 PM Recently the issue of Bringing a Trolley System to Corpus Christi, Texas came up. One would think that I would be happy, infact a good friend of mine...when I told him my stance and my well documented railfan-ism...said I was "messugah." (which I learned means crazy in Yiddish) Here is my post on a political forum. Now, Brothers, tell me... Am I on the wrong sid eof the issue? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been thinking about the Trolley system that is constantly being proposed for Corpus Christi. I am an avid railfan and know a bit about the issue. Let me begin by proposing that to make, in my opinion, a sucessful rail system. I will use the Stock Issues I learned in debate in High School in Premont, the S-HITS (Significance, Harms, Inherency, Topicality and Solvency) to prove the point. 1)True Anchors (Significance)- Many have said that there is no anchor at the south end of the Bayfront. This is quite true, even if there was something at the Colosseum here would still be no true anchor. A true anchor is one that provides a point A to a point B of a destination. For instance, the point A of the Texas Mexican Railway is Laredo and the point be is Corpus. A place to go from another. If the rail system were going from a residential area to a commerical/industrial area, there would be two such points. People have to want to ride, or need to. A trolley going back and forth between two attractions will not have stead income. There is not a significant anchor in existance for the proposal. 2) Road constuction (Harms)- The maintenance of a rail line, and street car system, will interfer with the traffic in downtown. Anyone who currently is going "the wrong way" on Shoreline Drive because of seawall construction has already been proven this point. The resulting harm and constant blockage of the road will be more of a harm than a boon for traffic. 3) Public Busses (Inherency)- There are already transportation systems that are already in existance. Why replace it with a more cumbersome system? It's called spinning one's wheels! 4) Other more important issus(Topicality)- There are hundreds of topical transportation issues that need to be addressed ahead of the issue of a Trolley system. 2) Bottom lines (solvency)- A rail system has to turn a profit. Goods and passenegers, if there is no traffic en re the former there is no need for a line. Novelty doesn't pay the bills. Potential traffic would have to defer to the first point, a place to go...not a thing to see. Money pits have a tendency to be expensive. That is the issue in a nut shell, the must Trolleys happen? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [?] Reply Edit Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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