QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith Oh Please dont bring LaRouche up, that guy isNUTS ! [:0][;)] I wouldn't be TOO sure of that. I think that he is stagecraft designed (and funded) by the republicans, to plunder the democratic block. SOME of what La Rouche says is a truer true than anyone in the current power structure dare admit to. But , there is also just enough of a fringe lunacy to make certain that his appeal will be limited to the disaffected. Look at his history, they only pull him out of the box when the Dems are a serious threat. My take? I think it would serve the status quo right if the nut managed to get himself elected. He couldn't do a worse job of meeting my priorities than the last 6 presidents have anyway, so from where I stand there is little to lose. And it would serve the existing power structure right, let them be the one to have to endure bs stacked upon bs for a change...what goes around comes around.
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith Oh Please dont bring LaRouche up, that guy isNUTS ! [:0][;)]
QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese I know GWB was thinking about it, but he decide to "REFORM" SSI instead.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates Heh, in 2 words I can tell you all you need to know about this: Lyndon LaRouche Try running a google on World Land Bridge Eurasian Land Bridge Schiller Institute And have a good laugh Start here: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/economy/maps/maps3.html#bering%20straits And, if you want a good example of how extremist hacks seize emotional topics (high speed rail, Amtrak, expanding PRB coal access, Bering land bridge, etc) and use them to lead those willing to be mislead, have a lookie here http://larouchein2004.net/pdfs/economics/020906infra02.pdf
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Old Limey The Discovery Channel I believe it was that had the Bering Straits Bridge Idea and in another 'Extreme Engineering' version a tunnel under the Atlantic was also shown. In a tube suspended and tested against Nuclear Sub Collision designed for super sonic travel. Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers will be using it all the time no doubt! Still 100 years ago Colour TV would have not been considered possible or an SR71
QUOTE: Originally posted by eastside Thanks, that's one of the best jokes I've seen on this board! Thanks. Can't take credit for ot though. Heard it on the Car Talk radio program. Wayne Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 10:42 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by ajmiller Let's build a bridge to the 21st century and....er....oh wait, it's already the 21st century. Sorry, my mistake. We could build an underpass to last Tuesday, or possibly a causeway to the 8th dimension. [D)] Perhaps we could build a space elevator to Mars [alien]. Or we could just buy a stairway to heaven. Well, the Bering Strait railroad tunnel project is not quite THAT ludicrious. The Hawaii tunnel on the other hand... well... I'll give ya' that one [8D] Reply Edit eastside Member sinceMarch 2001 From: New York City 805 posts Posted by eastside on Monday, March 21, 2005 1:48 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Muddy Creek ... "Do you want two lanes or four?" asked the Genie. Wayne Thanks, that's one of the best jokes I've seen on this board! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:20 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by DSchmitt Anyone want to invest in a bridge between California and Hawaii[:o)] A man finds an old lamp in his basement & starts rubbing the dirt off it to see if he can make a few bucks with it on Ebay. Suddenly a Genie pops out and says the man gets one wish. "Only one?" he asks? "It's a cheap lamp, " says the Genie, "What will it be?" The man thinks for a minute and says, "I've always wanted to go to Hawaii but I'm afraid to fly and I'm afraid to sail. I can't wi***hat you send me there because I want to come back and I only have one wish. So I wi***hat you build a bridge from California to Hawaii so I can drive there and back." The Genie thinks for a minute then says, "Well, you know it's a very long distance, the seas get very rough, materials will be hugely expensive, the pilings are going to have to be incredibly long, the engineering alone will take a long time. And this was a cheap lamp, after all. Are you sure there's nothing else you might want?" The man thinks for a minute and says, "Well, I've always wanted to get along better with women. I wi***hat you give me insight into how women think." "Do you want two lanes or four?" asked the Genie. Wayne Reply Edit ajmiller Member sinceOctober 2003 From: State College PA 344 posts Posted by ajmiller on Sunday, March 20, 2005 9:56 PM Let's build a bridge to the 21st century and....er....oh wait, it's already the 21st century. Sorry, my mistake. We could build an underpass to last Tuesday, or possibly a causeway to the 8th dimension. [D)] Perhaps we could build a space elevator to Mars [alien]. Or we could just buy a stairway to heaven. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 9:41 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by DSchmitt Anyone want to invest in a bridge between California and Hawaii[:o)] that would be one long bridge, with it being 2,390 miles from California. you'd have to have multiple man made islands, complete with housing, hotels, food and fuel stops along the way (probably every 100 miles for fuel and every 200 for small cities). Oh and you might as well connect Japan to the Islands as well, since it's only 3,850 miles the other direction, since once you learn to bridge 2390 miles, an additional 1500 shouldn't be to hard to do. Reply Edit DSchmitt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: California - moved to North Carolina 2018 4,422 posts Posted by DSchmitt on Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:58 PM Anyone want to invest in a bridge between California and Hawaii[:o)] I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it. I don't have a leg to stand on. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 4:32 PM Maybe we can get Boston's "Big Dig" to stop leaking first. The independent engineer who led an investigation into construction says he can no longer vouch for the safety of the tunnel. Or maybe we can fini***hat other capital project we've got cooking with the Russians, the International Space Station. Or maybe we can build Alaska a proper State Capital building. Or maybe we can go to Mars as long as we're considering huge price ticket items of dubious value that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for. Wayne Reply Edit eastside Member sinceMarch 2001 From: New York City 805 posts Posted by eastside on Sunday, March 20, 2005 4:21 PM Forget about selling as cross-Bering Strait tunnel as a link to Russia or Europe. The best prospect is as a link to China, Japan, and the rest of East Asia. As a RR fan I’d be all for such an ambitious project – the ultimate Transcon. On the other hand, having worked in project evaluations, I feel I can say that there’s no way such a project could be undertaken without massive government financing and guarantees. Such a commitment is for the foreseeable future beyond the means of Russia. In the US it would have to overcome serious ecological, financing, and political (some powerful lobbies would object) barriers. Worse, I’d doubt that anyone could construct a viable business case that would convincingly justify it. Look at the Channel Tunnel as an example. It’s been in de facto bankruptcy almost since opening, although it had much better immediate business prospects. It didn’t even put the ferries out of business. A Bering Strait tunnel would have an even more difficult time competing with bulk cargo carriers. Reply Old Limey Member sinceJuly 2004 From: The Worlds first Navy Base (Kent) 34 posts Posted by Old Limey on Sunday, March 20, 2005 3:01 PM The Discovery Channel I believe it was that had the Bering Straits Bridge Idea and in another 'Extreme Engineering' version a tunnel under the Atlantic was also shown. In a tube suspended and tested against Nuclear Sub Collision designed for super sonic travel. Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers will be using it all the time no doubt! Still 100 years ago Colour TV would have not been considered possible or an SR71 Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 7, 2005 8:09 PM yes... the same one that affects California. The only reason we never here about Alaska's earthquakes is because not that many people and businesses are affected as there are in California Reply Edit AlcoRS11Nut Member sinceJuly 2002 From: Stevens Point 436 posts Posted by AlcoRS11Nut on Monday, March 7, 2005 8:03 PM Isn't the Bering Strait on a very active fault line too? I love the smell of ALCo smoke in the Morning. "Long live the 251!!!" I miss the GBW and my favorite uncle is Uncle Pete. Uncle Pete eats Space Noodles for breakfast. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 7, 2005 7:40 PM As noted on the other discussion about the Bering Strait tunnel proposal, the State of Alaska began seeking a direct railroad connection to the Candian (and thereindirectly to the lower 48) railroad network under Alaska Senate Bill 23 SB 31: http://www.legis.state.ak.us/basis/get_bill.asp?session=23&bill=sb31 http://www.gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1032 Whether or not the Bering Strait ever gets rail service is still a far leap in the geological engineering and financing arenas, but perhaps in a few decades it might happen. Since post-Soviet Russia is still struggling to survive economically, it is doubtful tat they would contribute to the financing of the project. East Asian and American corporations would likely be the biggest supporters as they have the most to gain and have the funds to take on the challenge. Reply Edit siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 4, 2005 12:43 PM Amazing! Just when one thinks they have a handle on "most" things - along comes a topic like this one. I had no idea ......... I've sailed the Bering Sea on more than one occassion. It is NOT a deep water sea - in fact scientists just love this place for the information they can gather regarding the "land bridge" that once connected the two continents. Another subject ....... Why tunnel this sea? Where is the potential for real two way flow of goods (but hardly people). Go there - look around - even when you get to the other side, there really isn't any place to go, except to keep going (and going, and going). Trackage in that part of the world has to be a major headache. Frost heaves and the like play havoc with roads - roadbed wouldn't be immune. Can you just imagine the maintenance on something like this? I can't ...... So, while it is an interesting "thing" to discuss - I'm going back to reality. Thanx! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Thanks, that's one of the best jokes I've seen on this board!
QUOTE: Originally posted by ajmiller Let's build a bridge to the 21st century and....er....oh wait, it's already the 21st century. Sorry, my mistake. We could build an underpass to last Tuesday, or possibly a causeway to the 8th dimension. [D)] Perhaps we could build a space elevator to Mars [alien]. Or we could just buy a stairway to heaven.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Muddy Creek ... "Do you want two lanes or four?" asked the Genie. Wayne
QUOTE: Originally posted by DSchmitt Anyone want to invest in a bridge between California and Hawaii[:o)]
I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.
I don't have a leg to stand on.
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