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Amtrak #4 hits a pedestrian in Lawrence, KS

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Amtrak #4 hits a pedestrian in Lawrence, KS
Posted by diningcar on Saturday, November 25, 2023 11:25 AM

Amtrak was running late, 8:14 AM. A pedestrian was walking with her back to the approaching train and was on a cell phone to her friend, perhaps with ear plugs. She was partially off the track but not completely and was struck by the locomotive. More details not yet available.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, November 25, 2023 1:42 PM

The old 'they never run trains on these tracks!' excuse.

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Posted by D.Carleton on Saturday, November 25, 2023 4:39 PM

If you are walking on the tracks you are not a pedestrian, you are a trespasser.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, November 26, 2023 7:42 AM

D.Carleton

If you are walking on the tracks you are not a pedestrian, you are a trespasser.

A concept the general public seems to have a hard time comprehending...

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Posted by diningcar on Sunday, November 26, 2023 8:47 AM

Further news reveals that this lady had been interviewing homeless people and was walking back to her car. She was on her cell phone with her back to the approaching train which was slowing down for Lawrence station, 1/3 miles away. She was either walking just outside the rails or was exiting the track and was almost clear.

She may have been wearing earplugs.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, November 26, 2023 9:14 AM

I actually thought we were past these type of incidents once the Sony Walkman fad passed.    Appears now that as cell phones become multi-media, this will become an increasing issue.   

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, November 26, 2023 11:20 AM

D.Carleton

If you are walking on the tracks you are not a pedestrian, you are a trespasser.

 

Utter nonsense! 

 

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Posted by Backshop on Sunday, November 26, 2023 12:53 PM

charlie hebdo

 

 
D.Carleton

If you are walking on the tracks you are not a pedestrian, you are a trespasser.

 

 

 

Utter nonsense! 

 

 

You're not trespassing?

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Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, November 26, 2023 1:34 PM

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You're not trespassing?

I might be able to explain this......

In this case the victim was a pedestrian crossing the tracks at a railroad crossing and had also not recognized the gates were down because there was not a seperate gate for at least one if not more of the sidewalks.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pedestrian+hit+by+amtrak+train&oq=pedestrian+hit+by+amtrak+train&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORiABDIICAEQABgWGB4yCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMg0IBhAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBxAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0ICBAAGIYDGIAEGIoF0gEKMTMwMjhqMGoxNagCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:b4d78561,vid:8YYeY2dy61I,st:0

Easily done with ear buds in your ears and your not looking in the right direction.

 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, November 27, 2023 9:50 AM

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Easily done with ear buds in your ears and your not looking in the right direction.

Sounds like a situational awareness issue.  Even if she wasn't listening to music, etc, she may well have been engrossed in a conversation or perhaps was recording her thoughts on the story she was working on.  Either way, she wasn't paying attention...

Had she done the same thing at a road intersection and got hit by a truck, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, November 27, 2023 9:56 AM

Was this a fatality or severe injury incident?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, November 27, 2023 10:38 AM

BaltACD

Was this a fatality or severe injury incident?

 

  Lawrence,Kansas is a College Town, lots of student age people wander around there... You can bet that 'situational awareness' is an issue.

 

 


 

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, November 27, 2023 11:01 AM

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, November 27, 2023 11:22 AM

BaltACD

Was this a fatality or severe injury incident?

 

Fatality.  40 year old reporter.  Not exactly a young whippersnapper. Just a tragic accident it sounds like. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Ulrich on Monday, November 27, 2023 3:55 PM

Even without ear plugs trains are sometimes deceptively hard to hear..especially if one is walking into the wind and the train is coasting along downgrade.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, November 27, 2023 10:27 PM

Once again at least two posters who have zero empathy for a fatal accident victim or his or her family.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, November 27, 2023 11:45 PM

charlie hebdo
Once again at least two posters who have zero empathy for a fatal accident victim or his or her family.  

Suicide by train doesn't breed sympathy.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 12:55 AM

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Lawrence,Kansas is a College Town, lots of student age people wander around there... YTou can bet that 'situational awareness' is an issue.

Since moving to Texas..........two cars totalled by college kids.   One popped clutch into me broadside in a parking lot and the other ran a red directional arrow and turned right in front of me.    Both attempted to lie to the LEO get out of it but in both cases I was very lucky to have witnesses that could not believe what they saw.

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Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 6:55 AM

Sounds like an accident, not suicide. Not sure why she had to walk on the tracks to interview homeless people..just grab a coffee and go to Main Street, Anywhere. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 8:23 AM

Ulrich
Sounds like an accident, not suicide. Not sure why she had to walk on the tracks to interview homeless people..just grab a coffee and go to Main Street, Anywhere. 

Trespasser on right of way inside the clearance profile of moving equipment is suicide - consciously or unconsciously.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 10:44 AM

Ulrich

Sounds like an accident, not suicide. Not sure why she had to walk on the tracks to interview homeless people..just grab a coffee and go to Main Street, Anywhere. 

Probably an encampment down the tracks aways.  Think hobo jungle...

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 11:04 AM

BaltACD

 

 
charlie hebdo
Once again at least two posters who have zero empathy for a fatal accident victim or his or her family.  

 

Suicide by train doesn't breed sympathy.

 

Unlikely that it was suicide, but for you, as usual, there is zero compassion for those killed by trains, regardless of circumstances.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 11:31 AM

charlie hebdo
 
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charlie hebdo
Once again at least two posters who have zero empathy for a fatal accident victim or his or her family.   

Suicide by train doesn't breed sympathy. 

Unlikely that it was suicide, but for you, as usual, there is zero compassion for those killed by trains, regardless of circumstances.

Have a nice day!

When you have to deal with a dead trespasser a week for over 20 years of your career, compassion left the scene decades ago.  All the deaths were unnecessary except for the death wish of the dead by putting themselves in the situation of becoming dead.

Every day of my retirement has been a 'nice day' as I have not had to deal with all the fallout elements that eminate from that death. 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 11:35 AM

charlie hebdo
Unlikely that it was suicide, but for you, as usual, there is zero compassion for those killed by trains, regardless of circumstances.

Alas, it is hard to feel sorry for someone who commits such an act intentionally, after the fact.

OTOH, we should feel sorry for the fact that they felt such an act was necessary.  Far better they seek help (and get it) before they reach that point.  

And there's people they leave behind.

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Posted by Euclid on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 12:53 PM

What are the actual facts of this woman’s death?  How did this thread swerve into suicide as the cause? 

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, November 28, 2023 2:11 PM

There is an article behind a paywall ..

https://www2.ljworld.com/news/public-safety/2023/nov/24/person-killed-by-amtrak-train-near-lawrence-park-on-thanksgiving-morning/#:~:text=The%20woman%2C%20Chansi%20Rose%20Long,a%20Lawrence%2Dbased%20outreach%20program.

what you can see says  ..

"The woman, Chansi Rose Long, had spent the nights leading up to Thanksgiving staying in various camps around Lawrence to write a story about her “lived experience” within the homeless community, said Trina Tinsley, a fellow advocate for the homeless with the Jax Project, a Lawrence-based outreach program"


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Posted by Euclid on Wednesday, November 29, 2023 9:39 AM

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Amtrak was running late, 8:14 AM. A pedestrian was walking with her back to the approaching train and was on a cell phone to her friend, perhaps with ear plugs. She was partially off the track but not completely and was struck by the locomotive. More details not yet available.

 

The above is from the first post here.  Was this quote in red actually published as a news piece?  If so, what is the source of this news?  I believe this thread needs a bit more clarity on the facts leading up to this pedestrian death.

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Posted by diningcar on Wednesday, November 29, 2023 9:56 AM

The news source is - The Lawrence Journal World dated the day of the accident.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, November 29, 2023 5:18 PM

This happens at least once a month up in my old stompin' grounds:

https://patch.com/new-jersey/fairlawn-saddlebrook/pedestrian-fatally-struck-nj-transit-train-fair-lawn-reports

Sometimes more than once a month.  I think this is the third one in November. 

(I won't count the poor soul who stacked his belongings neatly at State Line Lookout on the Palisades and then jumped.)  

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