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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:31 AM

I have a friend that's a dealer of MS books.  He just got a letter from them saying that they are going to stop publishing hardcover books as of November, 2025, one year from now.  I guess sales have been slowing. That'll be sad because they are probably the premier publisher now.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:05 AM

That's not too surprising.  Considering how hard it is to find a bookstore (or hobby shop) these days, it is probably just a matter of time until the smaller publishers close up shop.

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Posted by timz on Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:19 AM

No more hardcover -- but still softcover? Or none at all?

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:33 AM

Now that's sad to hear.  I'd guess they'll continue with digital books (if that's the right term) and maybe softcovers. Times change, and honestly not always for the better.  

I've always considered Morning Sun a class act.  I've got two dozen of their books and while like everything else some were better than others I've NEVER been disappointed with any of them.

So, grab 'em while you can.  Crying

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:35 AM

You can self-publish now very easily.  In fact, it's almost print-on-demand.  If you want to order a copy of a book, you do.  They print it and ship it to you.

I have a friend who has self-published a couple of books on fire apparatus, and another has had a book printed that is no longer provided in hard copy by the government - some people like to have the hard copy available.

If you've done a decent job of assembling your tome, including pictures, the product is very nice.  I don't know if hard cover is available via that route, though.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:46 AM

On another forum, many were critical of Morning Sun.  They said the quality of the books, both the books themselves and errors of content within, has dropped the last 5 or 10 years.  It's been a while since I've purchased one of their books.  I have some older ones and have no complaints.  

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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, October 26, 2023 11:29 AM

timz

No more hardcover -- but still softcover? Or none at all?

 

Still softcover.

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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, October 26, 2023 11:34 AM

jeffhergert

On another forum, many were critical of Morning Sun.  They said the quality of the books, both the books themselves and errors of content within, has dropped the last 5 or 10 years.  It's been a while since I've purchased one of their books.  I have some older ones and have no complaints.  

Jeff

 

They went through a rough patch several years ago when they changed printers.  Colors seemed to be off.  Back in 2012, I donated my modest slide collection to them since I hadn't looked at them for years and years.  They've been used in some of the "Motive Power" series, since many were roster shots.  Alas, my name was misspelled on many of the captions. At the time, I offered to be a free proofreader, since I noticed quite a few spelling or grammar errors.  I was turned down because it seems that each author has their own relative/friend proofread their titles, so it's hit-or-miss. I'll miss them since they seem, to me at least, to be better than Four Ways West, their main competition.

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Posted by Backshop on Friday, October 27, 2023 2:03 PM

I just got an email from them.  No softcovers, either.  Just eBooks as of 11/24.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, October 27, 2023 2:22 PM

Backshop
I just got an email from them.  No softcovers, either.  Just eBooks as of 11/24.

F e-books

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Posted by Backshop on Friday, October 27, 2023 5:23 PM

BaltACD

 

 
Backshop
I just got an email from them.  No softcovers, either.  Just eBooks as of 11/24.

 

F e-books

 

My feelings, exactly.

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, October 27, 2023 6:04 PM

If there were E-books, then there'd be options for print-on-demand services.  

 

From the email that was posted elsewhere from Morning Sun, sounds like they *may* do E books, but materials were being returned to submitters.   I have a feeling they may be done. 

  

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Posted by Backshop on Saturday, October 28, 2023 6:27 AM

zugmann

If there were E-books, then there'd be options for print-on-demand services.  

 

From the email that was posted elsewhere from Morning Sun, sounds like they *may* do E books, but materials were being returned to submitters.   I have a feeling they may be done. 

 

I just googled and Yanosey is 77 years old.  Maybe he just wants to retire?

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, October 28, 2023 9:59 AM

Backshop
I just googled and Yanosey is 77 years old.  Maybe he just wants to retire?

Backshop
I just googled and Yanosey is 77 years old.  Maybe he just wants to retire?

A very real possibility.  If he wants to retire and no-one is interested in taking over the business?  Well then.

He wouldn't be the first and certainly won't be the last.

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Posted by JayBee on Sunday, October 29, 2023 2:47 PM

I have been buying my Morning Sun books from Arizona Hobbies. They sent me an e-mail detailing other changes at Morning Sun books. First Mr. Yanosey's sons have taken over the business. Second is that they are using a new distributor based in Chicago rather than nearer them in New Jersey. There were some hiccups during the change, like books damaged in shipment. That seems to be solved more recently. The owner of AH opined that the sons didn't seem like they were really interested in the business, but rather just getting money out of the business. The happenings reported in this thread seem to support that theory. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, October 30, 2023 4:20 PM

A sad end to a fine era.  I remember when Morning Sun came on the scene and reviewers were ecstatic about it.  The books were best described as a hard-cover railfan "slide show" that would be darn near permanent.  Unlike slides the ink-based pictures in the books would never fade and considering the top-quality of the materials used the books had every possibility of lasting for centuries. 

I've got some on the shelf over the 30 year mark and they're just as good as the day they were made. 

What a shame.  But what are you gonna do? Crying

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, October 30, 2023 4:23 PM

Maybe Garbley publishing will take some of the slack? 

I'm part way through his D&H book (I really need to get back to it), and it's pretty good.  A lot more in depth than just a slide show. 

  

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Posted by adkrr64 on Monday, October 30, 2023 4:38 PM

zugmann
I'm part way through the D&H book (I really need to get back to it), and it's pretty good.

Which D&H book are you reading?

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, October 30, 2023 4:49 PM

  

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Posted by Backshop on Saturday, December 9, 2023 7:13 PM

I just got back from a show in Columbus where I checked out some of the new Morning Sun books. The photos have definitely changed for the worse.  It's like they were for a short time about ten years ago or what you would see from Four Ways West.  Not very natural looking.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, December 9, 2023 7:42 PM

The replacement for books will be holography.   Why look at a picture when you can step into it and be there?    AI is going to be a part of this generating 3D from photos at some point. :)

https://youtu.be/YEx7h0NKnXE

 

Third rails, cameras, hard cover books, etc.......geez you guys need to keep up.....ha-ha.

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, December 9, 2023 8:53 PM

CMStPnP
The replacement for books will be holography.   Why look at a picture when you can step into it and be there?    AI is going to be a part of this generating 3D from photos at some point. :)

But can I take it in the bathroom with me?  Devil

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Posted by ns145 on Sunday, December 10, 2023 10:58 AM

tree68

 

 
CMStPnP
The replacement for books will be holography.   Why look at a picture when you can step into it and be there?    AI is going to be a part of this generating 3D from photos at some point. :)

 

But can I take it in the bathroom with me?  Devil

 

Just strap on some Depends and use the virtual "facilities".  Feel the thrill of taking a dump on the Panama Limited as it roars down the IC mainline at 100 mph!

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