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"CPKC" Must Be Stopped...

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, May 2, 2023 9:20 AM

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Not Sioux Line? To honor Native American/First Nation people

Not in NY.  The governor has banned any Native American mascots...

There is little point in 'honoring native peoples' until they have a significant stake in the thing.  Note the difference between Indians as owners of casinos and Indians as cartoon characters.

Pity Juniatha will not see this; she'd likely have some comments.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, May 1, 2023 11:41 PM

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Not Sioux Line? To honor Native American/First Nation peoples. 

Not in NY.  The governor has banned any Native American mascots...

Go South and you have the Seminole Hard Rock Casino in Florida

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, May 1, 2023 10:33 PM

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Not Sioux Line? To honor Native American/First Nation peoples.

Not in NY.  The governor has banned any Native American mascots...

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, May 1, 2023 9:05 PM

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Scrap the CPKC and just call it Soo Line..

Not Sioux Line? To honor Native American/First Nation peoples.

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Posted by SD60MAC9500 on Monday, May 1, 2023 8:06 PM

Scrap the CPKC and just call it Soo Line..

Rahhhhhhhhh!!!!
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Posted by rdamon on Monday, May 1, 2023 6:52 PM

I think this is an option..

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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, May 1, 2023 5:49 PM

I guess you are saying that CPKC means "Can't Paint. Kill Combination."

If this were Jeopardy and the category was Railroad Mergers, it would be the answer to the question "Why aren't you branding your locomotives in a new paint scheme?"

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, May 1, 2023 2:54 PM

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I believe the Saint Louis - San Francisco Railroad (the Frisco Lines) never went anywhere near the city of San Francisc.  

There was a lot of that back in the 19th century. Minneapolis - St. Louis never served Missouri, let alone St. Louis. Several railroads had "& Pacific" in their name that never got close to the ocean. That's why I said the names reflected where the railroad went or where it wanted to go.

BTW I was not advocating that CPKC or whoever should be renamed using city names, was just responding to a question about why KCS used Kansas City in their name when it was (supposedly) such an unimportant city. KCS name goes back to 1900 by the way.

I understand (via Cowcatcher magazine) that although the merger has taken place, STB is going to be 'closely monitoring' the railroad for a period of seven years, to see if any problems develop. I suspect the railroad won't do anything re new name - paint scheme during that time just in case...you know, "Shouldn't Paint So Fast". 

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Posted by azrail on Monday, May 1, 2023 1:34 AM

Or CANUM (Canada-United states-Mexico)

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Posted by Backshop on Saturday, April 29, 2023 1:51 PM

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PaNAmerican?  (Europeans seem to be taught that Central America is part of North America, so not as farfetched as it appears))

Central America IS part of North America. It's the tail...

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Posted by kgbw49 on Saturday, April 29, 2023 1:45 PM

One last one:

Canada Midwest & Mexico

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, April 28, 2023 9:24 AM

National birds?

Quetzalcoatl, Bald Eagle, and Goose.  (Service is for the birds...)

 

(Yes, I appreciate that 'Eagle' is probably a registered trademark of UP, via Missouri Pacific, and therefore reserved by the competition: hence the 'Bald Eagle' which has its own railroad connotation.)

"Canamex" is the term to use for the expedited through-freight service, not the railroad itself.

PaNAmerican?  (Europeans seem to be taught that Central America is part of North America, so not as farfetched as it appears))

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, April 28, 2023 9:17 AM

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Posted by KBCpresident on Friday, April 28, 2023 1:39 AM

Based on the above, perhaps we could consider: 

"Edmonton, Mississippi, & Mexico City"

old fashioned, but an ample description.

 

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Posted by railfanjohn on Friday, April 28, 2023 1:20 AM

Every time I see the new name - "CPKC" - I think of Kentucky Fried Chicken.  (KFC)

 

I believe the Saint Louis - San Francisco Railroad (the Frisco Lines) never went anywhere near the city of San Francisc.  

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Posted by KBCpresident on Friday, April 28, 2023 12:36 AM

Major cities? Edmonton and Mexico City respectively. 

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Posted by SALfan1 on Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:01 PM

Don't know which cities these are, so someone please help me.  (Northernmost city on CP), Kansas City & (southernmost city on KCSM).

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Posted by KBCpresident on Thursday, April 27, 2023 9:49 PM

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I read an article awhile back sayign that BNSF and CSX need to have more descriptive names. 

 

 

 

Written by who?

 

 

“BNSF, CSX, Please Buy a Vowel,”page 4, February 2008

source: https://www.trains.com/trn/railroads/tom-dannemans-ideas-for-restyling-bnsf/

So I guess to answer the question, The editor of Trains Magazine at the time. Been awhile sincwe I read the article,but I know he propposed renaming BNSF "Great Western"

In the spirit of playing with names, I awhile back sugested using airline names:

CSX could be "Eastern Airline RR" (a nod to the Seaboard Airline)

BNSF could be Braniff Railways.

No idea how teh new system could fit into this.

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Posted by KBCpresident on Thursday, April 27, 2023 9:37 PM

Let's try this again...

The Beaverton, Fanno Creek & Bull Mountain Railroad

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:42 PM

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Mecanus..

 

 

 

That would be popular. 

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:38 PM

Mecanus..

 

 

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:33 PM

Canamexus do what?

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Posted by NKP guy on Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:30 PM

   It's probably passe for railroads to use cities in their names.  Much as I like the old custom, as someone earlier pointed out, we today live in an age of Exxon, Enron, and CSX-type names.

   So I'll suggest CANAMEXUS.  Descriptive, one word, easy to remember, and trips right off the tongue.  

   

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, April 27, 2023 6:45 PM

How about the 'Halifax, Vancouver, Chicago & Mexico City'

or Montreal, Saskatchewan, Kansas City & Chihuahua 

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Posted by n012944 on Thursday, April 27, 2023 5:39 PM

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I read an article awhile back sayign that BNSF and CSX need to have more descriptive names. 

 

Written by who?

 

I wonder how much traffic the NS loses in the Chicago-New York lane because both cities are north of Norfolk.

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, April 27, 2023 2:08 PM

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Having the KC name in a railroad that big seems kind of odd. I know that it's in homage to the KCS but to an outsider, it doesn't make any sense.  It's not that big or important of a city.

 

 
Railroad names generally were chosen for where the railroad was, or where they wanted to go. Doesn't seem odd that a railroad running from Kansas City south to Texas and Louisiana would be "Kansas City Southern"? Besides KC has long been an important railroad town, going back to the 1870s cattle drives where Texas cowboys drove their herds north to the rail connections in Kansas and Missouri. 
 
p.s. Kansas City metro area population is a lot bigger than Burlington Iowa, or Norfolk Virginia. Santa Fe New Mexico isn't a big deal and wasn't even on the ATSF mainline - although I believe the "Santa Fe" in the railroad name referred to the old Santa Fe Trail, rather than just the town. 
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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, April 27, 2023 2:02 PM

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I heard a conspiracy theory that BNSF was so-called because they wanted Norfolk Southern thus BN NS SF.

Burlington Northern - Santa Fe.

 

A Canadian railway can buy an American railroad, but they can't become an American railroad. Up until a few days ago, CP's rail lines in the US were technically owned and operated by the Soo Line, headquartered in Minneapolis. With the new CP-KCS deal, their US trackage will now all be owned by KCS with headquarters in Kansas City. KCS-Mexico will probably continue as a separate legal entity, as will KCS's Panama Canal Ry.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, April 27, 2023 1:57 PM

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And now is CPKC.. 

 
Which is not that bad.  Railroads have been referred to by their initials instead of the actual name behind the initials for decades.  How many of us have referred to the CNO&TP by its initials instead of its formal name?
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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, April 27, 2023 1:27 PM

And now is CPKC.. 

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