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Pres. Biden just announced that there is an Agreement that will avert a rail strike.

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Pres. Biden just announced that there is an Agreement that will avert a rail strike.
Posted by diningcar on Sunday, November 6, 2022 5:18 PM

In a press conference a few hours ago the President announce that the unions have reached an agreement. 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:05 PM

diningcar

In a press conference a few hours ago the President announce that the unions have reached an agreement. 

The key word your missing is "tenative" before the word agreement.   That missing word means something like..........it is not fully voted on or accepted yet.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:33 PM

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diningcar

In a press conference a few hours ago the President announce that the unions have reached an agreement. 

 

The key word your missing is "tenative" before the word agreement.   That missing word means something like..........it is not fully voted on or accepted yet.

 

I just did a fast Internet "News" Search on this subject...No current News..only news dated from weeks back... I would certainly hope your reportage is spot-on!  IMHO; This country does not need this kind of event at this 'time' of the year... 

 Not to mention, there are reports that the Airline Industry is also being threatened by a similar(?) strike; regarding, its flight personnel(?)    As to the OP's entry, some kind of 'linked' article would be of interest, as well. My 2 CentsBang Head

 

 


 

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:44 PM

Only news I know of is the machinist union approved the tentative agreement.

 

Ballots are currently out for the conductors and engineers. 

  

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Posted by Euclid on Sunday, November 6, 2022 7:35 PM

diningcar

In a press conference a few hours ago the President announce that the unions have reached an agreement. 

 

I think that was this news from Sept. 15.
"A big win for America": Biden announces tentative deal to avert national rail strike
 
 
 
The news media played that to sound like the whole thing was finally settled with an actual agreement, despite the word, “tentative.”  It took a few days for the story to slightly modify to the reality that the dispute might require more negotiation, and may even result in another strike, and there really was no agreement.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, November 7, 2022 2:31 AM

Unless there's been a change, a few unions have rejected their tentative agreements. The signalmen for one. I've lost track on which unions have accepted or rejected their TAs.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, November 7, 2022 5:46 AM

Euclid
The news media played that to sound like the whole thing was finally settled with an actual agreement, despite the word, “tentative.”

Yup,.....ehhh, what happens Tuesday that they might be trying to influence?

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, November 7, 2022 5:48 AM

samfp1943
I just did a fast Internet "News" Search on this subject...No current News..only news dated from weeks back... I would certainly hope your reportage is spot-on!  IMHO; This country does not need this kind of event at this 'time' of the year... 

I think I found an article in POLITICO which is an opinion based news source.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, November 7, 2022 7:50 AM

This is the current and correct status as I posted on another thread:

52% of International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers members who voted approved their deal, seven railroad unions have ratified contracts that include 24% raises and $5,000 in bonuses, but all 12 have to approve contracts to prevent a strike." [Chicago Tribune, 11/6]

 
 
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Posted by Euclid on Monday, November 7, 2022 8:34 AM
So 7 unions have ratified, and 5 have not.  What are the details of the process that the 5 are engaged in right now?  Are they simply in the process of voting, or are there still ongoing discussions, negotiations, and decisions underway?  Are the 5 unions allowed an indefinite amount time to ratify, or is there a deadline?  If there is a deadline, when is it? 
 
If there is a deadline, and if the 5 unions are not able to ratify in time, what happens then?
 
Is there some point during this process at which if all 12 unions have not yet approved, a strike will happen automatically?  Or is a strike always just an option?
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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, November 7, 2022 8:54 AM

AFAIK, two rejected agreementso three votes remaining. In most unions, there must be a vote to authorize a work stoppage.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, November 7, 2022 11:34 AM

Euclid
So 7 unions have ratified, and 5 have not.  What are the details of the process that the 5 are engaged in right now?

From:

https://raillaborfacts.org/news/bargaining-status-faq-2022/

 

The following are expected ratification dates for each union but these dates are subject to change:

  • TCU – Ratified
  • BRC – Ratified
  • IBEW – Ratified
  • ATDA – Ratified
  • BMWED – Not ratified / status quo maintained
  • SMART-M – Ratified
  • NCFO – Ratified
  • BRS – Not ratified / status quo maintained
  • IAM – Ratified
  • IBB – November 14
  • BLET – November 21
  • SMART-TD – November 21

 

PS.  That rail labor facts website linked above is a PR mouthpiece of the carriers - so exercise due dilligence, of course. 

 

 

  

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