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How accurate was the 60 Minutes segment on the Cargo Traffic Jam in LA and Chicago?

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, December 23, 2021 6:06 PM

BaltACD
If for whatever the reason, the customer SAYS he is unable to accept delivery when the rail carrier says they are ready to make delivery - things go bad for the customer in a hurry.

Seems to be the other way around lately.  Customers are like "yeah, you can drop off the cars whenever you want - today?  Tomorrow? This week?  Please...???"

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, December 23, 2021 3:47 PM

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charged demurage$$$$ for containers that he can't pick up because they are at the bottom of a pile.

I really believe that you have a lot of businesses out there who lost profits during the shutdown, who are using every available opportunity and any plausible excuse to make up for lost time.

Therefore the circular finger pointing depicted in the show was a very accurate illustration of whats going on.  "I'm not trying to gouge anybody. Conditions beyond my control are forcing me to do this to you".

I liken it  to the old "trickle down"  theory,  except in this instance it's opportunism that is trickling down.

Players turning the screws feel less guilty when they are able to convince themselves that "everybody is doing it"...

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 6:10 PM

roundstick
Like the Toy Warehouse say that he is being charged demurage$$$$ for containers that he can't pick up because they are at the bottom of a pile. Railroads have been charged with this complaint that they are using demmrage and fuel surcharges as a profit center.

I have the feeling that 60 Minutes left out some salient points in their segment.  Without being drirectly involved, I have to go on is my 50+ years experience in the rail industry and knowing the procedures that are use to notify customers that their shipments are 'ready for delivery' - be that rail cars or trailers/containers.

If for whatever the reason, the customer SAYS he is unable to accept delivery when the rail carrier says they are ready to make delivery - things go bad for the customer in a hurry.

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How accurate was the 60 Minutes segment on the Cargo Traffic Jam in LA and Chicago?
Posted by roundstick on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 10:25 AM

Like the Toy Warehouse say that he is being charged demurage$$$$ for containers that he can't pick up because they are at the bottom of a pile. Railroads have been charged with this complaint that they are using demmrage and fuel surcharges as a profit center.

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