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Posted by Euclid on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:42 PM

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If someone thinks a thread is interesting 'to them' and want to comment, why should the date of the thread be any impediment?

 

I believe there have always been a few regular members who deem themselves censors of sorts. Deciding which topics are "fit" for discussion, and which are not. 

...and how much discussion of the topic is allowed.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM

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BaltACD

It is curious how Anonymous has posted in so many threads before the date 'he' is shown as having joined the forum.

Kalmbach has created a Time Machine. 

There is more than one "Anonymous." 

 

Kalmbach has meged all protoplasm into a singular Anonymous - modifying Spacetime even more than Einstein has postulated in his Theory of Relativity.

 

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Posted by Convicted One on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:56 AM

BaltACD
If someone thinks a thread is interesting 'to them' and want to comment, why should the date of the thread be any impediment?

I believe there have always been a few regular members who deem themselves censors of sorts. Deciding which topics are "fit" for discussion, and which are not.  When one of the dormant threads that they have historic resentment for gets bumped, they complain about the  outdatedness  rather than risk breathing life back into the actual content they have objection with.

400 years ago, book burning got the job done.  Here in the digital age things are a little more complicated. Smile

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:41 AM

rdamon
The oldest dates I see are Jan 1, 2001  when did this forum start?

I'd like to say earlier than that, but the software was updated several times (and I'm not sure all the earlier posts were archived).

CMStPnP probably knows the methods error-handlers use when a database key is deleted but a program accesses something containing a reference to it.  I suspect the 'anonymous' is a catchall record (with assigned date or other fields to keep from breaking any routine).  There are implications for how it's implemented in that the post count for 'everybody who quits' is assimilated into one huge number, probably over time as the system runs and updates metadata.

Note that banned members are currently handled differently.  Their posts still appear under their own name (and avatar), as do the associated other data such as post count.  They just can't log in.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:02 AM

the name changes to anonymous when the poster is no longer a member of the forum.

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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:44 AM

The oldest dates I see are Jan 1, 2001  when did this fourm start?

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:24 AM

Euclid
There is more than one "Anonymous." 

We are legion.

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:18 AM

Euclid
 
BaltACD

It is curious how Anonymous has posted in so many threads before the date 'he' is shown as having joined the forum.

Kalmbach has created a Time Machine. 

There is more than one "Anonymous." 

Kalmbach has meged all protoplasm into a singular Anonymous - modifying Spacetime even more than Einstein has postulated in his Theory of Relativity.

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Posted by Euclid on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:07 AM

BaltACD

It is curious how Anonymous has posted in so many threads before the date 'he' is shown as having joined the forum.

Kalmbach has created a Time Machine.

 

There is more than one "Anonymous." 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:49 AM

It is curious how Anonymous has posted in so many threads before the date 'he' is shown as having joined the forum.

Kalmbach has created a Time Machine.

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Posted by Euclid on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:57 AM

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Semper Vaporo
 
BaltACD 
Semper Vaporo 
Lithonia Operator

What exactly is the Unread Threads Page, and how does one access it? 

Just above the list of topics are 4 "tabs".  "Most Recent", "Not Answered", "Unread Topics", and "My Topics".  Click on the 3rd one to see all the topics that YOU have not viewed.  Once you have read all the ones you want, click on the button above the tabs that reads, "Mark All as Read" and the list will show none, until someone starts a new topic or adds to a topic.  When you refresh the page those that you have not seen yet, will be listed. 

Or just click on the 'LAST' button in the General Discussion forum and then work your way to current.  

HA HA!  That is why "zombie" threads show up.  People start at the oldest posting, see something of interest to them and decide to make a comment without realizing the age of the thread.

Besides, I don't have time for 1333 pages to show up one at a time.

 

Accessing the normal way you still have 1333 pages of forum - the forum only presents one page at a time.

If someone thinks a thread is interesting 'to them' and want to comment, why should the date of the thread be any impediment?

 

 

 

If the thread title has any clear meaning, you can just google by approximate memory of the title or subject. All the threads that I remember are there.  They are probably still getting views. 

 

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:13 AM

Semper Vaporo
 
BaltACD 
Semper Vaporo 
Lithonia Operator

What exactly is the Unread Threads Page, and how does one access it? 

Just above the list of topics are 4 "tabs".  "Most Recent", "Not Answered", "Unread Topics", and "My Topics".  Click on the 3rd one to see all the topics that YOU have not viewed.  Once you have read all the ones you want, click on the button above the tabs that reads, "Mark All as Read" and the list will show none, until someone starts a new topic or adds to a topic.  When you refresh the page those that you have not seen yet, will be listed. 

Or just click on the 'LAST' button in the General Discussion forum and then work your way to current.  

HA HA!  That is why "zombie" threads show up.  People start at the oldest posting, see something of interest to them and decide to make a comment without realizing the age of the thread.

Besides, I don't have time for 1333 pages to show up one at a time.

Accessing the normal way you still have 1333 pages of forum - the forum only presents one page at a time.

If someone thinks a thread is interesting 'to them' and want to comment, why should the date of the thread be any impediment?

 

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 AM

BaltACD
 
Semper Vaporo 
Lithonia Operator

What exactly is the Unread Threads Page, and how does one access it? 

Just above the list of topics are 4 "tabs".  "Most Recent", "Not Answered", "Unread Topics", and "My Topics".  Click on the 3rd one to see all the topics that YOU have not viewed.  Once you have read all the ones you want, click on the button above the tabs that reads, "Mark All as Read" and the list will show none, until someone starts a new topic or adds to a topic.  When you refresh the page those that you have not seen yet, will be listed. 

Or just click on the 'LAST' button in the General Discussion forum and then work your way to current. 

HA HA!  That is why "zombie" threads show up.  People start at the oldest posting, see something of interest to them and decide to make a comment without realizing the age of the thread.

Besides, I don't have time for 1333 pages to show up one at a time.

Semper Vaporo

Pkgs.

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Posted by MMLDelete on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:56 PM

Semper Vaporo

 

 
Lithonia Operator

What exactly is the Unread Threads Page, and how does one access it?

 

 

Just above the list of topics are 4 "tabs".  "Most Recent", "Not Answered", "Unread Topics", and "My Topics".  Click on the 3rd one to see all the topics that YOU have not viewed.  Once you have read all the ones you want, click on the button above the tabs that reads, "Mark All as Read" and the list will show none, until someone starts a new topic or adds to a topic.  When you refresh the page those that you have not seen yet, will be listed.

 

Thanks, SV.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:51 PM

Semper Vaporo
 
Lithonia Operator

What exactly is the Unread Threads Page, and how does one access it? 

Just above the list of topics are 4 "tabs".  "Most Recent", "Not Answered", "Unread Topics", and "My Topics".  Click on the 3rd one to see all the topics that YOU have not viewed.  Once you have read all the ones you want, click on the button above the tabs that reads, "Mark All as Read" and the list will show none, until someone starts a new topic or adds to a topic.  When you refresh the page those that you have not seen yet, will be listed.

Or just click on the 'LAST' button in the General Discussion forum and then work your way to current.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:42 PM

Lithonia Operator

What exactly is the Unread Threads Page, and how does one access it?

Just above the list of topics are 4 "tabs".  "Most Recent", "Not Answered", "Unread Topics", and "My Topics".  Click on the 3rd one to see all the topics that YOU have not viewed.  Once you have read all the ones you want, click on the button above the tabs that reads, "Mark All as Read" and the list will show none, until someone starts a new topic or adds to a topic.  When you refresh the page those that you have not seen yet, will be listed.

Semper Vaporo

Pkgs.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:36 PM

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I find it hard to believe that they had such extensive libraries at their fingertips as to be able to cull the precise printed pages to scan and post.

There are a lot of resources available on the 'Net.  Some are copyrighted, but still available for C&P.

I believe we've discussed it before - but I think that a certain amount of attributed use is acceptable - fair use?  

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:26 PM

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I do. When you start to ban knowledgeable people, eventually most that remain are less knowledgeable. I learned a lot from  MM and WANs over the years. 

Yeah, but posting pages and pages of copyrighted information is pretty much forbidden on any site. 

What I am no clear on - did they create images from old printed media and post it OR did they find that data in the far corners of the web and post 'hot links' to it?

I find it hard to believe that they had such extensive libraries at their fingertips as to be able to cull the precise printed pages to scan and post.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:19 PM

Goodtiming
I do. When you start to ban knowledgeable people, eventually most that remain are less knowledgeable. I learned a lot from  MM and WANs over the years.

Yeah, but posting pages and pages of copyrighted information is pretty much forbidden on any site. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by MMLDelete on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:10 PM

What exactly is the Unread Threads Page, and how does one access it?

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Posted by Goodtiming on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:09 PM

I do. When you start to ban knowledgeable people, eventually most that remain are less knowledgeable. I learned a lot from  MM and WANs over the years.

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Posted by Euclid on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:07 PM

Whatever is affecting this forum, I think has nothing to do with the moderators.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:39 PM

I may be on thin ice here, but I have noticed the long-term, chilling effect of the moderation on this site.  When I joined, every day I would check the "unread thread page" and it would sometimes run 2 or 3 pages if I skipped a day (that was the old software)   Now, when I check in, the first page is the same as it was last month.  My own participation follows this pattern, too, as it is tiring to walk on eggshells all the time.  

This phenomenon is not unique to this site.  I've noticed a slowdown in participation on other rail related sites I visit.

 

It's free, so who am I to complain?  A forum dedicated to trains, is a god-send, I just wish it lived up to its potential.  

And Zug, I think I get first choice on rockingchairs.  Whistling

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:02 PM

SD70Dude

 

 
BaltACD
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And, it's likely similar to the clientele in a  bar.   If you allow the riff-raff to dominate the atmosphere, whenever decent folk come along their first impression is "Oh, we're in the wrong place".

In this 'bar' however the barkeep has thrown out decent folk in deference to riff-raff.

 

 

At least Raymond hasn't been back for a while.

 

Yes,  and we should give thanks for that,  but he did have some defenders on here,  at least in the past.  Some good posters were pushed away,  however,  one way or another. 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:19 PM

charlie hebdo

I agree.  I like some old threads because they are often more interesting than current ones.  The resurrected threads along with process ones like this one generate more posts than most recent ones. IMO,  shutting down threads that stray from a pure railroad focus damages the future of the forum as participation continues to slide downhill. 

 

Surely the antidote for lack of interesting current threads would be to start a new thread.Smile

 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:07 PM

BaltACD
Convicted One

 

In this 'bar' however the barkeep has thrown out decent folk in deference to riff-raff.

 As an observation: Both Convicted One and Balt ACD are right in their observations,IMHO.  As far as they go. In the 'Bar business', as apparently, as well as the Hobby Publishing business, It is generally, the Regular Patrons who help the business success. 

A crowd attracts the folks looking for a 'different' experience. They'll come, and some may stay; the element of the riff-raff, come and move-on. Many of them swing on their own agenedas.    

  Moderators, are the 'Bouncers' in that mix.  They 'enforce', reguate, and settle down the 'over-exhuberant' for the management.     I'll leave those comments to Selector, Murphy Siding, and maybe even 'bergie(?)  the first two certainly, at time derwent their baptisms of fire....Bergie, who really bailed out, took his Slivovitz, and ran. Sigh

Moderation seems to ebb and flow srounf here; in the past there have been some pretty 'enlightening' discussions (ie: Things regarding MILWRR !) and some pretty heavy converstions ( Flamings(?) maybe! Bang Head )   (ie: futuremodal, Michael Sol) that got pretty intense.  Then there was the 'moderator' who was sent over to ride herd on TRAINS Forum from the MR Forum...He was apparently, not used to dealing with adults(?).. He got his tail feathers singed, IIRC.  Blindfold

Just a few random thoughts. Whistling

 

 

 

 


 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:47 AM

BaltACD
Convicted One
And, it's likely similar to the clientele in a  bar.   If you allow the riff-raff to dominate the atmosphere, whenever decent folk come along their first impression is "Oh, we're in the wrong place".

In this 'bar' however the barkeep has thrown out decent folk in deference to riff-raff.

At least Raymond hasn't been back for a while.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:33 AM

Convicted One
And, it's likely similar to the clientele in a  bar.   If you allow the riff-raff to dominate the atmosphere, whenever decent folk come along their first impression is "Oh, we're in the wrong place".

In this 'bar' however the barkeep has thrown out decent folk in deference to riff-raff.

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:38 AM

And, it's likely similar to the clientele in a  bar.   If you allow the riff-raff to dominate the atmosphere, whenever decent folk come along their first impression is "Oh, we're in the wrong place".

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