For the diesel identification challenged the consist was SD40T-2 IORY 4070 in the lead followed by SD45T-2 IORY 9400. The 4070 traces to SP 8529 built in 12/1978 and the 9400 traces to SSW 9400 built in 6/1975. A couple of things to note about tunnel motors: the SD40T-2 has two radiator fans and the SD45T-2 has three radiator fans. You can see the dash marked fan hatches at the back of the units over the radiators. Also the 4070 has a front porch and the 9400 doesn't. Both are on the same frame, but the 4070 with the smaller prime mover needs less hood space.
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Convicted One ProRailProducions The train was on a return trip back to Lima, Ohio. LSL is a train out of Lima that runs south then it runs back north on it's return trip. So then a descriptor of "Two SD40T-2's lead a northbound road freight..." would have been more fitting, wouldn't it? I'm not sure what these other guys are trying to accomplish, it sounds like they are trying to tell you how to do your job. Which...it's your hobby...you should be able to do with it whatever you want.....not trying to rain on your parade. But your statement that you were following a southbound freight from Rosewood....is very misleading. Try to place yourself inside the head of your intended audience. You know where the video was shot, because you were there. None of us has that luxury, so you need to spell it out in a little more detail. And as with all things, accuracy helps.
ProRailProducions The train was on a return trip back to Lima, Ohio. LSL is a train out of Lima that runs south then it runs back north on it's return trip.
So then a descriptor of "Two SD40T-2's lead a northbound road freight..." would have been more fitting, wouldn't it?
I'm not sure what these other guys are trying to accomplish, it sounds like they are trying to tell you how to do your job. Which...it's your hobby...you should be able to do with it whatever you want.....not trying to rain on your parade. But your statement that you were following a southbound freight from Rosewood....is very misleading.
Try to place yourself inside the head of your intended audience. You know where the video was shot, because you were there. None of us has that luxury, so you need to spell it out in a little more detail. And as with all things, accuracy helps.
A mistaken was made by the videogrpaher when the description was put together, we all make mistakes, we are only human.
Considerably heavier than a normal SD-40 or SD-45 which shared the same frame. (not by just a little bit) - Lots of extra steel plate ballast in those things, all in the name of TE...Known for crabbing in even light curves (center bound trucks relatively common if not properly lubricated) ... at least the newer heavier engines have trucks that "steer" (even if the coupler throw is less than half of the second generation locomotives)
mudchicken zugmann BaltACD Every railroad has their own train identification scheme; every region of the country has differing syntaxt for specific actions that are common to all regions. Would have cleared up the confusion, though. Glad I'm not that roadmaster. (or is G&W gonna gift him some 136 CWR curve rail? Everybody forgets what SP did with those rascals...)
zugmann BaltACD Every railroad has their own train identification scheme; every region of the country has differing syntaxt for specific actions that are common to all regions. Would have cleared up the confusion, though.
BaltACD Every railroad has their own train identification scheme; every region of the country has differing syntaxt for specific actions that are common to all regions.
Would have cleared up the confusion, though.
Glad I'm not that roadmaster. (or is G&W gonna gift him some 136 CWR curve rail? Everybody forgets what SP did with those rascals...)
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tree68 That's quite the trestle. Where is it?
That's quite the trestle. Where is it?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Quincy,+OH+43343/@40.3082539,-83.9747495,18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x883f1798b7bdd3e5:0x5fd93418e4e7e512!8m2!3d40.2992182!4d-83.9688273
Agree whole heartedly! Remember a year or so ago, Trains published a article that described each of the Class 1 carriers Train Identification Systems - no two were the same. I suspect there is even more variety amongst the various short line operators, however, I would expect a degree of uniformity from the 'short line conglomerate' operator that run multiple short line identities under the 'conglomerates' common ownership.
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BaltACDEvery railroad has their own train identification scheme; every region of the country has differing syntaxt for specific actions that are common to all regions.
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zugmann ProRailProducions The train was on a return trip back to Lima, Ohio. LSL is a train out of Lima that runs south then it runs back north on it's return trip. We call those turn jobs around here. Don't know the Ohio parlance.
We call those turn jobs around here. Don't know the Ohio parlance.
Every railroad has their own train identification scheme; every region of the country has differing syntaxt for specific actions that are common to all regions.
ProRailProducionsThe train was on a return trip back to Lima, Ohio. LSL is a train out of Lima that runs south then it runs back north on it's return trip.
Convicted One I find it of interest that the OP claims the video is of a "southbound" travelling from Rosewood to St Johns with a final destination of Lima.....and you guys want him to identify locations? lol. ProRailProducions Two SD40T-2's lead a southbound road frieght on her return trip back to Ford Yard in Lima, Ohio, we chase the train from Rosewood to St.Johns, Ohio.
I find it of interest that the OP claims the video is of a "southbound" travelling from Rosewood to St Johns with a final destination of Lima.....and you guys want him to identify locations? lol.
ProRailProducions Two SD40T-2's lead a southbound road frieght on her return trip back to Ford Yard in Lima, Ohio, we chase the train from Rosewood to St.Johns, Ohio.
The train was on a return trip back to Lima, Ohio. LSL is a train out of Lima that runs south then it runs back north on it's return trip.
Convicted One BaltACD Who knows Lima is North of Rosewood, not South.
BaltACD Who knows
Lima is North of Rosewood, not South.
Have never followed either the DT&I or the I&O and only know Lima from its existence on the B&O's Toledo Division - have no idea what subdivision it is on in today's CSX.
BaltACDWho knows
Convicted OneI find it of interest that the OP claims the video is of a "southbound" travelling from Rosewood to St Johns with a final destination of Lima.....and you guys want him to identify locations? lol. ProRailProducions Two SD40T-2's lead a southbound road frieght on her return trip back to Ford Yard in Lima, Ohio, we chase the train from Rosewood to St.Johns, Ohio.
Who knows - some other videographer or photographer may want to investigate a identified site to enhance the state of their own art. Maybe some of us 'old pharts' will think that location looks like Dumfuc Road in Snobhaven and would like to have our memories confirmed or busted. There are myriad of reasons to take a little time in editing something you are attaching your name and reputation to identify the scene the view is being provided - The Title and the YouTube summary are just that and no more. If you stay in a single location and say it is 'A Day's action at MP 861.4' fine - that may be all you need to say, although most viewers would like to know - train by train what trains or switching moves they are looking at. You are publishing your video to tell a story - so TELL IT - don't make the viewer either wander 'in the dark' or just get disgusted and say 'fool kid and turn the video off' and go on about their other interests.
The comments you are getting on these videos, from this 'viewing audience' are meant to point out ways to enhance what you are publishing so that you can appeal to a wider audience.
ProRailProducionsWe do mention the locations on where Scott happened to chase the train between, we will do narrations once we have a following.
Chicken - egg. Maybe if you do narrations/captions you'll develop a following...
Anybody can shoot video of trains. Make your product just that much better and you'll stand out.
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ProRailProducionsTwo SD40T-2's lead a southbound road frieght on her return trip back to Ford Yard in Lima, Ohio, we chase the train from Rosewood to St.Johns, Ohio.
Convicted OnePerhaps a simple silhouette of the state with the specific location labeled, as an insert between cuts might work, without obscuring the trains?
I wouldn't characterize what's being asked for as a geography lesson. It's just providing a reference point. As I said before, you might want to go watch trains there yourself.
As both Balt and I have pointed out, a few words, briefly appearing on the screen, would be a 100% improvement. Placed at the top, bottom, or perhaps a corner of the image, the caption would obscure nothing but a bit of ballast or a cloud or two.
A key word here is "briefly," ie, just there long enough to be read.
If there is reason for a longer narrative between sites, run the text over a black screen, then go back to the video. An example of this would be a site with historical or operational significance, or pointing out a good railfanning spot ("the parking lot of Podunk Hardware is a safe spot with great views of passing trains").
I agree that some producers do get carried away. The place for that is during the apparently standard opening shots, or at the end.
tree68That's quite the trestle. Where is it?
Great Miami river, north of Quincy, is my best guess.
I understand why you are asking the question, but wanting a geography lesson is a two way street. I've seen producers get carried away with fonts, textures, and wipes, trying to display their "creative flair" which can become distractive to the point of annoyance.
Perhaps a simple silhouette of the state with the specific location labeled, as an insert between cuts might work, without obscuring the trains?
Remember the oft stated mantra about establishing a business - LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
You have captured some good images - as a viewer, I would like, for my own information and education, where were those images captured.
I don't publish videos, but I do take them - and every video editing software program I have come across lets the user of the program to insert captions wherever the user wants.
I you truly want to become a 'Pro' in publishing railroad videos you have to tell the viewer LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
'Approaching John Jones Road Crossing, Podunk, OH' 'Wetwater River Trestle, Dunkpo, OH. And so on for each scene you have captured and are displaying.
Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvjVjyHpopU
I&O SD40T-2 4070 and I&O SD45T-2 9400 lead a southbound road frieght on her return trip back north to Ford Yard in Lima, Ohio, we chase the train from Rosewood to St.Johns, Ohio.
Video by Scott Taipale
Pro Rail Productions 2020
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