https://atlanta.curbed.com/2020/2/21/21147228/atlanta-csx-hulsey-yard-activation-masterplan-transit
“The type of operations that are going in there are going to be very different than folks were used to with the intermodal operations,” said CSX spokesman Bryan Tucker. “It will be what we call a TRANSFLO facility.”
This still leaves the former Tilford Yard as a big real estate development play. There is a lot of development already taking place to the north and west of Tilford and I'd not be at all surprised if this area becomes the next "Atlantic Station" style development in Atlanta.
I say great for CSX. Who are these people who think they can take someone else's property on a whim?
How dare CSX use their own property for their own benefit. Dripping with sarcasm.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
More on Transflo operations here:
http://www.transflo.net/index.cfm/about-us/
IMHO it definitely makes sense to "outsource" this.
OvermodMore on Transflo operations here: http://www.transflo.net/index.cfm/about-us/ IMHO it definitely makes sense to "outsource" this.
Transflo is a business unit of CSX - it is not outsourced. Transflo employees ARE NOT covered by Railroad Retirement. This is a business tactic the Class 1 carriers have been pursuing for over 30 years. Set up 'side companies' that can be deemed as not being 'railroad' jobs and the carriers then don't have to pay RRB retirement amounts and can instead pay the lesser SSA amounts.
Similar tactics have been used with Payroll personnel, Real Estate Personnel, Computer personnel and every other department the can be configured OUTSIDE the RRB requirements. Employees in their 20's think it is great, as they will get more take home - when they age into their 60's it will kick them right in their RETIREMENT.
BaltACDEmployees in their 20's think it is great, as they will get more take home - when they age into their 60's it will kick them right in their RETIREMENT.
You honestly think RRB is going to survive that long? Between outsourcing, PSR, and many guys that will have to go out on disability later in life(the easy retirement yard/local jobs are a thing of the past), etc.
That's if some piece of crap politician doesn't get to it first.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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zugmann BaltACD Employees in their 20's think it is great, as they will get more take home - when they age into their 60's it will kick them right in their RETIREMENT. You honestly think RRB is going to survive that long? Between outsourcing, PSR, and many guys that will have to go out on disability later in life(the easy retirement yard/local jobs are a thing of the past), etc. That's if some piece of crap politician doesn't get to it first.
BaltACD Employees in their 20's think it is great, as they will get more take home - when they age into their 60's it will kick them right in their RETIREMENT.
I only hope it lasts long enough to continue to pay me until they scatter my ashes.
"Only 20-25 trucks per day instead of hundreds" That sounds like a minor use just to hold on the the acreage.
BaltACD zugmann BaltACD Employees in their 20's think it is great, as they will get more take home - when they age into their 60's it will kick them right in their RETIREMENT. You honestly think RRB is going to survive that long? Between outsourcing, PSR, and many guys that will have to go out on disability later in life(the easy retirement yard/local jobs are a thing of the past), etc. That's if some piece of crap politician doesn't get to it first. I only hope it lasts long enough to continue to pay me until they scatter my ashes.
And I hope that's a long, long time from now.
Also don't forget the hit RRB will take when the T part of T, E & Y* takes a big hit in employment numbers.
*Train, Engine & Yard employees. The T being conductors and brakemen in road service.
Jeff
CSX making use of their property, however middling, seems to upset you, why?
charlie hebdo "Only 20-25 trucks per day instead of hundreds" That sounds like a minor use just to hold on the the acreage.
rrnut282 CSX making use of their property, however middling, seems to upset you, why? charlie hebdo "Only 20-25 trucks per day instead of hundreds" That sounds like a minor use just to hold on the the acreage.
Placement in the center of town makes perfect sense. Most of the end users are nowhere near a rail spur. (and most of those that have spurs don't take care of those spurs anyhow, ignoring the duties of a track owner connected to the interstate rail system.)
rrnut282CSX making use of their property, however middling, seems to upset you, why? charlie hebdo "Only 20-25 trucks per day instead of hundreds" That sounds like a minor use just to hold on the the acreage.
It is CSX property to use as THEY see fit. If they didn't use the property for anything - IT IS STILL THEIR PROPERTY.
rrnut282CSX making use of their property, however middling, seems to upset you, why?
Might be a ploy to get a higher price.
It may be CSX did not want the property to be infil housing ? A few weeks ago there was talk of using part of the property as a new Amtrak and possible HSR station. That might work but only if enough land availale N - S for installing a E - W ballon track . The station could have been 1 - 2 miles east of downtown close to the MARTA line stations.
That appears to be off the table ?
BaltACD Yes it was a big incentive when NS opened a new Intermodal Yard in Maple Hts Ohio about 12 years ago. Many of the "Container Jockeys" are indeed Minorities who live nearby in a longtime declining suberb of Cleveland and come from the inner city. But as far as I know they work for "Container Port" and not NS. This was a problem that Railway Express Agency had when there workers were classified as railroad employees and not trucking employees. A series of strikes put them under as having higher labor costs then UPS. REA could have survived the containerisation that UPS and Fed Ex morphed into. REA in the 1970s was moving a lot of its stuff by air . Overmod More on Transflo operations here: http://www.transflo.net/index.cfm/about-us/ IMHO it definitely makes sense to "outsource" this. Transflo is a business unit of CSX - it is not outsourced. Transflo employees ARE NOT covered by Railroad Retirement. This is a business tactic the Class 1 carriers have been pursuing for over 30 years. Set up 'side companies' that can be deemed as not being 'railroad' jobs and the carriers then don't have to pay RRB retirement amounts and can instead pay the lesser SSA amounts. Similar tactics have been used with Payroll personnel, Real Estate Personnel, Computer personnel and every other department the can be configured OUTSIDE the RRB requirements. Employees in their 20's think it is great, as they will get more take home - when they age into their 60's it will kick them right in their RETIREMENT.
Overmod More on Transflo operations here: http://www.transflo.net/index.cfm/about-us/ IMHO it definitely makes sense to "outsource" this.
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