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bnsf rail train derailed ?
Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:04 PM

Reports that rail train derailed in front of trains 3 and 4.  Amtrak is going to bus bridge both trains/   Cannot imagine the mess cleaning up all those twisted rails ?   Have not found any local media links.

 
 
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Southwest Chief Train 4 that departed Los Angeles (LAX) on 1/29 will hold at La Junta (LAJ) due to a freight train derailment ahead. Alternate bus transportation will be provided between LAJ and Dodge City (DDG). Passengers will board new equipment at DDG to continue east.
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UPDATE: Southwest Chief Train 3 that departed Chicago (CHI) on 1/29 is still holding at Dodge City (DDG) due to a freight train derailment ahead. Alternate bus transportation will be provided from DDG to La Junta (LAJ). Passengers will board new equipment at LAJ to continue west.
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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, January 31, 2020 1:00 AM

Snowing pretty good over there right now. US-50 that parallels the railroad is closed in places near Syracuse, KS (halfway between LJ and Dodge)....because of ice.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Friday, January 31, 2020 6:45 AM

Might not be too bad of a clean up. I doubt I've ever seen a rail train surpassing 20 mph. 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, January 31, 2020 7:56 AM

Leo_Ames

Might not be too bad of a clean up. I doubt I've ever seen a rail train surpassing 20 mph. 

I've seen them at or near track speed on the "open road."

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 31, 2020 8:54 AM

blue streak 1
Cannot imagine the mess cleaning up all those twisted rails ?

Not too many of them may have gotten 'out' in pretzel shapes -- my guess is that this is a relatively 'contained' derailment as all those rails in guides would tend to hold the train upright and in line ... ASSuming of course it was a full rail train.

MC or others might comment, though, on how one re-rails a rail train that has extensively derailed -- can you do it 'car by car' to work it back in line, or is the lateral resistance so great that you have to remove some proportion of the rails endwise before you can work?

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, January 31, 2020 9:34 AM

Sounds like a real mess.  Any preliminary theories as to the cause? 

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Posted by Euclid on Friday, January 31, 2020 9:50 AM

A news story with photograph would be interesting just to see how the derailment of such a unique type of train behaved.  It may be relatively easy to rerail loaded, but also relatively easy to unload it before rerailing the empty cars. 

Of course, without any apparent news coverage, it may be very minor, like one car on the ground.  But if that were the case, the fact of being a rail train would probably significantly increase the rerailing effort.   

I think a load of rails would tend not to be forced into pretzel shapes as is common when average derailments tear up track.   

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, January 31, 2020 10:24 AM

Euclid

A news story with photograph would be interesting just to see how the derailment of such a unique type of train behaved.  It may be relatively easy to rerail loaded, but also relatively easy to unload it before rerailing the empty cars. 

Of course, without any apparent news coverage, it may be very minor, like one car on the ground.  But if that were the case, the fact of being a rail train would probably significantly increase the rerailing effort.   

I think a load of rails would tend not to be forced into pretzel shapes as is common when average deraiments tear up track.   

 

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Friday, January 31, 2020 6:31 PM

ASM.TRANSITDOCS shows Amtrak #3/29 Ar. Dodge City (DDG) @ 5:04 AM 9 min early and no departure; next entry shows #3/29 Ar. La Junta 8:17 PM 12:28 min. late.

Currently the train has left Needles CA (NDL) @ 2:21 PM 13:11 late.

ASM.TRANSITDOCS shows Amtrak #4/29 Ar. Lamar CO (LMR) @ 10:02 PM 1:01 late and no departure; next entry shows #3/29 Lv. Dodge City (DDG) @ 2:28 AM 2:41 late.

It has arrived Chicago today about 5:35 PM 2:45 late. 

And this does NOT compute in my mind. How can a train arrive Dodge City @ 5:04AM and lv @2:28 AM? Or is this a bus replacement?

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, January 31, 2020 6:37 PM

This is the 21st Century - without pictures did it really happen?

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Friday, January 31, 2020 6:46 PM

Electroliner 1935

ASM.TRANSITDOCS shows Amtrak #3/29 Ar. Dodge City (DDG) @ 5:04 AM 9 min early and no departure; next entry shows #3/29 Ar. La Junta 8:17 PM 12:28 min. late.

Currently the train has left Needles CA (NDL) @ 2:21 PM 13:11 late.

ASM.TRANSITDOCS shows Amtrak #4/29 Ar. Lamar CO (LMR) @ 10:02 PM 1:01 late and no departure; next entry shows #3/29 Lv. Dodge City (DDG) @ 2:28 AM 2:41 late.

It has arrived Chicago today about 5:35 PM 2:45 late. 

And this does NOT compute in my mind. How can a train arrive Dodge City @ 5:04AM and lv @2:28 AM? Or is this a bus replacement?

 

Does it say how many days/weeks/months are between 5:04 AM and 2:28 AM?  In any one week there are at least 7 of both of those times.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:09 PM

Passenger on station platform to conductor of arriving train: "it's good you're here on time." 

Conductor: "Yes, but this is yesterday's train!"

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:15 PM

Must be VIA's Canadian. 

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