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Is this a former Monon Shop Complex (Indianapolis)?

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Is this a former Monon Shop Complex (Indianapolis)?
Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:53 PM

I am curious, stumbled across this on the Internet.........is this a former Monon Shop complex they are subdividing into residential now in Indianapolis......it kind of looks like it.......

https://www.davidweekleyhomes.com/new-homes/in/indianapolis/indianapolis/monon-16 

 

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:48 PM

Monon's major shop was at Lafeyette. Not sure what they had in Indianapolis. Might be named for the Monon Path on former ROW. 

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Posted by Backshop on Saturday, November 24, 2018 7:02 PM

EL1935 is correct.  There is nothing in the link citing a Monon RR link in the link.  

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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, November 24, 2018 9:03 PM

Ditto the above, however there was a roundhouse at Belt Junction (Lafayette (major) Monon (minor) and New Albany (phased-out) were apparently the shop locations to speak of per the Dozalls)

The roundhouse/ freight house etc was up around 27th Street (not 16th)...by 16th St Monon had run out of railroad. Wondering if the non- railroad developer is confusing Monon w/ Indianapolis Union?

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Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:23 PM

Backshop

EL1935 is correct.  There is nothing in the link citing a Monon RR link in the link.  

They have the Monon Trail alongside and in one of the park shots a red railway caboose, thats why I asked in the first place.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, November 26, 2018 7:30 AM

The 1970 topo map (historicaerials) shows a rail line crossing 16th Street, and it is plainly marked "Monon."

There was a yard around 25th Street with a roundhouse and a second turntable.

Penn Central joined in at 10th Street for the trip to Union Station.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Monday, November 26, 2018 9:05 AM

The only major shop complex in Indy that I know of was the former NYC shops, now home to Amtrak in the Beach Grove area on the SE side.  

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, November 26, 2018 7:20 PM

Tree: (Monon ended at 181.6/ Massachusetts Ave....Belt Yard was at MP 180) - south of there you either were on N&W/NKP/LE&W or PC/NYC/Big 4 on into Union station.

Mappers took some liberties with rail lines because they rarely understood them - Big 4 (CCC&StL) was still on new USGS maps published into the 1990's. Modern GIS is even worse, including some DOT sites that should know better. The SPV effort that many on the forum consider as their bible has plenty of goofs.(And they admit they are not goof-proof!)

Speaking of GIS/GPS:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pennsylvania-woman-claims-she-drove-on-train-tracks-because-gps-told-her-to-go-that-way   It never quits. (Darwin candidate that should not be allowed behind the wheel ever again)

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:10 AM

GPS has turned map reading and advance planning into lost arts.  I've managed to keep those skills sharp and as a consequence my sense of direction has become legendary within my family.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:25 AM

mudchicken
Tree: (Monon ended at 181.6/ Massachusetts Ave....Belt Yard was at MP 180) - south of there you either were on N&W/NKP/LE&W or PC/NYC/Big 4 on into Union station.

Massachusetts Ave (and the junction with PC, etc.) is south of 16th  on the Monon based on what is shown on the 1970 topo.  PC is shown paralleling Mass Ave until it turns south at 10th Street.   I'm presuming the large yard to the north (around 25th St.) is Belt Yard, which puts the project in question between the yard and the junction, and on the Monon.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:27 AM

If you look at Google Maps now around 22nd Street there is a rail junction in place and the rails leading to the Monon Trail are still in place under the grass....lol.   Tracing the rails to the right......eventually they become actively used and maintained again.     Lots of open land still in the area so your probably right with the former freight yard there.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:44 PM

There were 2 roundhouse locations (one on each side of the tracks) between 27th and 28th streets.  You can still see the location of the turntable on the west side in the present image... previous years show some of the footprint of the roundhouse on both sides.

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