News Wire: Watco to acquire first CSX line spinoff in Illinois, Indiana

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Monday, July 09, 2018 3:55 PM

WASHINGTON — Watco is the winning bidder for CSX Transportation’s Decatur and Danville Secondary subdivisions in Illinois and Indiana. The Decatur & Eastern Illinois Railroad will be the new name for the 126.7 miles of track that Wat...

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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, July 09, 2018 10:52 PM

The lines form somewhat of an X south of Bloomington, IL.

Probably mainly grain gathering.

You can zoom in on this map to see the endpoints of the lines listed in the Newswire post.

https://www.csx.com/index.cfm/customers/maps/csx-system-map/

 

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Posted by PNWRMNM on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:01 AM

PJS1
What does the term "Decatur Sub" mean?
 
What does the term "Danville Secondary" mean?

These are the names of the lines as shown in the Employee Timetable. Sub is short for subdivision, which is a common term for a line that is less than the entire division, which is typical.

As to the difference between subdivision and secondary, someone familiar with CSX lingo should be able to explain. I can not.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:12 AM

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As to the difference between subdivision and secondary, someone familiar with CSX lingo should be able to explain. I can not.

As I recall, what Conrail called the Montreal Secondary, CSX calls the St Lawrence Subdivision.  It's for sale, too.

Could simply be a carryover from CR days.

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CSX Line Being Sold to Watco
Posted by PJS1 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:12 AM
From the Newswire, this language is embedded in the article covering the sale of a CSX line...... "the Decatur & Eastern will acquire the Decatur Sub between Montezuma, Ind., and Decatur, as well as the Danville Secondary between Terre Haute, Ind., and Olivet, Ill......
 
What does the term "Decatur Sub" mean?
 
What does the term "Danville Secondary" mean?

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 12:39 PM

Secondary: Lower priority main line, branch.

As pointed out, different railroads had different ways of defining things. You could add "Running Track", _______ Line and Industrial Lead (some places) to those names for light used/ backwater main tracks. Totally dependent on the operating departments and employee timetables.

(and then there are the FRA Line Segments and USRA Line Codes... better be sure which railroad you are talking about. There were more than one Danville Secondaries.)

Santa Fe lines were all Districts before changing to Subdivisions in 1986.

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Posted by ns145 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 12:54 PM

tree68

 

 

 

 
PNWRMNM
As to the difference between subdivision and secondary, someone familiar with CSX lingo should be able to explain. I can not.

 

As I recall, what Conrail called the Montreal Secondary, CSX calls the St Lawrence Subdivision.  It's for sale, too.

Could simply be a carryover from CR days.

 

You are correct, sir.  The Danville Secondary is a combination of remnants of both the former NYC/Big Four Little Egypt line and the former NYC/Big Four Indianapolis-St. Louis main line.  The two ex-NYC lines connect at Paris, IL.  It was acquired by CSX as part of the Conrail split.  The Decatur Subdivision is what's left of the former B&O line between Indianapolis and Springfield, IL.  Back in the late 1980's CSX abandoned the line west of Decatur, IL and east of Hillsdale, IN (connection with the ex-C&EI Chicago-Evansville mainline).  

After the Conrail split, CSX installed a connection track between the ex-B&O and NYC/Big Four lines at Chrisman, IL and traffic to/from Decatur was re-routed from Brewer Yard in Danville, IL to Avon Yard in Indianapolis.

Traffic sources on the line cluster include the large ADM and Tate & Lyle plants in Decatur, a chemical complex at Ficklin, a large grain elevator in Tuscola (complete with a new loading loop), and a Cargill grain mill in Paris.

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