Chatterbox Summer 2018

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Chatterbox Summer 2018
Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, June 21, 2018 4:24 AM

Welcome to the first day of Summer.Going to Deshler to work at the park.Mother nature is sending rain for the June birthdays weekend.We'll see what CSX sends by.

stay safe

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:19 AM
Sun is out, sky is clear, a great start here in the lead tainted water capital of America.
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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:38 AM

Mostly cloudy, with intervals of sun and the occasional sprinkle for the first day of summer.  

Of course, amateur radio's field day is this weekend and there's rain in the forecast.  At least we'll be under cover in a pavilion.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:55 AM
So much for the clear blue sky. Now it's partly cloudy with solid clouds on there way. Gee, it only took 30 minutes.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:34 AM

BOB WITHORN
So much for the clear blue sky. Now it's partly cloudy with solid clouds on there way. Gee, it only took 30 minutes.

 
It took that long?Whistling  The other day I got off the train and it was sunny and about 85 degrees.  By the time I got home (15 minutes) it was clouding over and the temp was 75 degrees and heading down.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:49 AM

    1st day of summer. I'm wearing long sleeves and had to find a warm, waterproof jacket to wear this morning. I could've canoed to work in the cornfields.

     We had our mid 90's weather in late May and early June. I can only assume we'll see snow in July. Mother Nature seems a bit cranky.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:13 AM

Ducking hail balls here (golf ball size)- The Frod Exploder is sporting new dents in the hood and roof.

Out here in the great wide open, you can see the weather coming from a really long ways off.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:42 AM

It's a wet one here...we've probably gotten two inches of rain this morning (glad I finished mowing the lawn last evening!).  Not too furious--just a good soak for yards that may need it.  And the cooler temperatures (around 70) are just what the doctor ordered for us after the past few weeks, in which we endured actual temps as high as 101.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:12 PM

CSX has a new headache out east, seems that someone routed a doublestack train down a low clearance line, with predictable results........

Guess the Cumberland area is getting a new bridge........

Hoped to be in Wisconsin tonight, but a fatality wreck in Kankakee screwed that up. Just two more hours that I have to drive tomorrow morning before I get home...........

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:53 PM

Good evening

Well the sun was out this morning.So was the Loram guys and the tie gang asd well.Csx used it's magic shoehorn to fit 3 trains into south Deshler.Q 353 went south with 8 units.Neck is a little red but the chores got done at the trainpark.Mother Nature is gently raining on us now.Randy hope you get home safe.

stay safe

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:08 PM

rvos1979
CSX has a new headache out east, seems that someone routed a doublestack train down a low clearance line, with predictable results........

Guess the Cumberland area is getting a new bridge........

Understand they have been adding double stack traffic to the head end of Westbound merchandise train's at Cumberland - block swapping type action.  With trains being backed up on the Keystone Sub, it was not available for 'head room' so Terminal Management ordered the Train Dispatcher and the Train Crew to use the Mountain Sub for head room.  This activity has been taking place for some time and my sources said the Safety Complaints were registered by both T&E and Dispatchers that the activity was UNSAFE.  

Who knew?

         

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:18 PM

JoeKoh
.Neck is a little red but the chores got done at the trainpark.

So you were the one making all the noise on the cam...

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, June 22, 2018 4:54 AM

Friends daughter had a corn crib blow over in a storm.They dropped off some pieces of it.Some people use the wood pile to drop of junk.I was just cleaning up the wood pile.Was also able to give a couple visitors tours of the museum as well.The donation box got filled.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, June 22, 2018 5:27 AM

Also be watching on July 9th.That is when CSX and the contractors will be replacing the diamond.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 22, 2018 7:16 AM

JoeKoh

Also be watching on July 9th.That is when CSX and the contractors will be replacing the diamond.

stay safe

Joe

New "news" on the chat for the cam has the replacement happening on the 15th, instead.  Supposedly via an "inside contact."  Not holding my breath - it's been slipped several times already.

They need to do it pretty soon - the cars really bounce going over it, especially eastbound.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, June 22, 2018 8:37 AM

tree68
 
JoeKoh

Also be watching on July 9th.That is when CSX and the contractors will be replacing the diamond.

stay safe

Joe

New "news" on the chat for the cam has the replacement happening on the 15th, instead.  Supposedly via an "inside contact."  Not holding my breath - it's been slipped several times already.

They need to do it pretty soon - the cars really bounce going over it, especially eastbound.

Surprised it has been pushed to the middle of the month rather than taking advantage of the 4th of July traffic lull.

         

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, June 22, 2018 10:40 AM

Anybody that has images of that incident, please forward my way...teaching tool

BaltACD
 
rvos1979
CSX has a new headache out east, seems that someone routed a doublestack train down a low clearance line, with predictable results........

Guess the Cumberland area is getting a new bridge........

 

Understand they have been adding double stack traffic to the head end of Westbound merchandise train's at Cumberland - block swapping type action.  With trains being backed up on the Keystone Sub, it was not available for 'head room' so Terminal Management ordered the Train Dispatcher and the Train Crew to use the Mountain Sub for head room.  This activity has been taking place for some time and my sources said the Safety Complaints were registered by both T&E and Dispatchers that the activity was UNSAFE.  

Who knew?

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, June 22, 2018 10:49 AM

mudchicken
Anybody that has images of that incident, please forward my way...teaching tool 
BaltACD
 
rvos1979
CSX has a new headache out east, seems that someone routed a doublestack train down a low clearance line, with predictable results........

Guess the Cumberland area is getting a new bridge........ 

Understand they have been adding double stack traffic to the head end of Westbound merchandise train's at Cumberland - block swapping type action.  With trains being backed up on the Keystone Sub, it was not available for 'head room' so Terminal Management ordered the Train Dispatcher and the Train Crew to use the Mountain Sub for head room.  This activity has been taking place for some time and my sources said the Safety Complaints were registered by both T&E and Dispatchers that the activity was UNSAFE.  

Who knew?

Article from the local paper's website contains a illustrative picture.

http://www.times-news.com/news/local_news/update-csx-train-slams-west-side-bridges/article_d244d6ee-7569-11e8-ad84-e7f3a43a46f2.html

 

http://www.times-news.com/news/local_news/csx-refuses-city-plan-to-rebuild-washington-street-bridge/article_17820c0d-0fb9-51ff-86f8-f179d5a5210e.html

         

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, June 22, 2018 1:18 PM

Thanks Tree (kinda helps while talking clearances)

Chico's grapevine is hinting at telling Murphy Siding not to drink the water for a while. BNSF in big trouble just north of him at Doon, IA.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 22, 2018 1:23 PM

mudchicken
Thanks Tree (kinda helps while talking clearances)

That was Balt that posted that, but you're welcome!

Does make me wonder, though, if a crew ever goes under a bridge and wonders "are we going to clear that?"

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, June 22, 2018 1:45 PM

What's the new CSX slogan "Precision ....?" How recently was the person who directed traffic that way hired?

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, June 22, 2018 1:50 PM

Sorry: Thanks BALT (distracted by Chico's grapevine heating up)

(I used to have a video of NS making convertables out of some new pick-ups in Kansas City under another old bridge, but I can't find that rascal anymore)

I surmise there's a CSX public projects engineer somewhere with a much larger headache now that the operating department blundered. (The locals wanted new bridges and to have CSX foot all of the bill. Sure - take it out of Blackstone Capital's slush fund.)

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, June 22, 2018 2:06 PM

BaltACD

 

 
mudchicken
Anybody that has images of that incident, please forward my way...teaching tool 
BaltACD
 
rvos1979
CSX has a new headache out east, seems that someone routed a doublestack train down a low clearance line, with predictable results........

Guess the Cumberland area is getting a new bridge........ 

Understand they have been adding double stack traffic to the head end of Westbound merchandise train's at Cumberland - block swapping type action.  With trains being backed up on the Keystone Sub, it was not available for 'head room' so Terminal Management ordered the Train Dispatcher and the Train Crew to use the Mountain Sub for head room.  This activity has been taking place for some time and my sources said the Safety Complaints were registered by both T&E and Dispatchers that the activity was UNSAFE.  

Who knew?

 

 

Article from the local paper's website contains a illustrative picture.

http://www.times-news.com/news/local_news/update-csx-train-slams-west-side-bridges/article_d244d6ee-7569-11e8-ad84-e7f3a43a46f2.html

 

http://www.times-news.com/news/local_news/csx-refuses-city-plan-to-rebuild-washington-street-bridge/article_17820c0d-0fb9-51ff-86f8-f179d5a5210e.html

 

The folowing is a cut from the a side bar story in the first linked article posted by BaltACD : FTA:"...UPDATE: 8:08 p.m. CUMBERLAND — Engineers were assessing damage Thursday after a CSX freight train slammed into the Fayette and Washington Street bridges on the city's West Side..."

and from the second linked story[in part]: FTA:"...CUMBERLAND — CSX Transportation has turned down an offer by the city of Cumberland to rebuild the Washington Street bridge to its existing specifications, according to city officials.

A report on Cumberland's aging bridge infrastructure was given at Tuesday's regular meeting of the mayor and City Council... The city has four bridges in poor condition — Baltimore, Fayette, Cumberland and Washington streets. The bridges on Cumberland and Washington streets are currently closed.

"We haven't had any (progress) since we made the last proposal, which was for CSX to consider the city rebuilding the Washington Street (bridge) in or around the exact same location, and they rejected that notion," said Rhodes.

A main sticking point for CSX is the clearance, according to city officials. The Washington Street bridge has a clearance of 18 feet. CSX and federal guidelines call for bridge clearance to be 23 feet high.

"We have been unable to reach any scenario with what CSX want done in terms of clearances..."

Sounds like the situation is going to devfolve into one of those 'shotgun marriage' situations?  Makes one wonder who will own the 'paternity' rights on those bridge rebuilds?   Sounds like CSX owns some expensive decisions?Whistling

Here is a linked video from one of the links int the Cumberland Times-News articles courtesy of Steven Bittner ,Linked @http://www.times-news.com/news/local_news/the-latest-details-are-few-regarding-bridges-hit-by-csx/article_27668638-7630-11e8-adbc-2b12c4d9f336.html

 

 

Sam

 

 


 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, June 22, 2018 3:23 PM

afternoon

Rainy day today.Was still able to get out.Stacey bought a gift card from a chain restaurant.So for my birthday we ate in Indiana.Looked around on Ns and found some interesting trains.On the way home we stopped in Bryan.A fox came out from under the old depot and was catching supper before an oil can train went west.Tomorrow back to the corn city.As far as the diamond,it's CSX stay tuned.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, June 22, 2018 3:45 PM

tree68
Does make me wonder, though, if a crew ever goes under a bridge and wonders "are we going to clear that?"

Once or twice.  The most recent example is we set off hte high car alarm with trash containers.  But that detector is set for a low bridge that was removed.  We still walked the train by, and it fit.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, June 22, 2018 5:50 PM

zugmann

 

 
tree68
Does make me wonder, though, if a crew ever goes under a bridge and wonders "are we going to clear that?"

 

Once or twice.  The most recent example is we set off hte high car alarm with trash containers.  But that detector is set for a low bridge that was removed.  We still walked the train by, and it fit.

 

Do you just have the train creep along until it bonks into something slowly and then back up?

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, June 22, 2018 6:00 PM

Murphy Siding
Do you just have the train creep along until it bonks into something slowly and then back up?

Pretty much.  Though you want to try to stop before you bonk.

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, June 22, 2018 7:25 PM

Zugs: Is "bonk" one of those super secret technical terms from the operating department side of things?

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, June 22, 2018 7:28 PM

mudchicken

Zugs: Is "bonk" one of those super secret technical terms from the operating department side of things?

 

Bonk falls between tap and slam.

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, June 22, 2018 7:42 PM

Thanks - the Zugs School of railroad "isms" will recess  for the weekend. (writing this all new-found knowledge down on the back pages of my Sokkia fieldbook)

 

Pop quiz on Monday.

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