Cannonball,
Thank you, looks like I need to do some digging.
The 380th website. 380th.org. has a lot of info on it. Originally created by a 531st navagator. When I get my 1945 research done, in a couple months, the Phillipine mission section will list all missions, all aircraft and everyone that was on each plane.
Speaking of railroads. On Mindoro Island, where the 380th was in 1945, they had a railroad that ran from the ports to all the airfields on the southwest corner of the island. Used it to move fuel ammo and bombs. See I got back rails!!
Bob
Hello Bob, I found a book about the 308th heavy bombardment Group(NON SIBI SED ALIIS). Your group has 2DUC "Something to be proud of. The book is titledAir Force Combat Groups by the Dept of the Air Force, printed in 1961. It has 505 pages and is very complete Documentation. I thought you would like to know about the book. Respectfully, Cannonball
Y6bs evergreen in my mind
zugmannLite power can be fun but it's also a pain. It's a lot of work keeping them at the speed limit. And you have to be careful with them - easy to get in trouble since you don't have a lot of braking power. Many guys have gotten through stop signals in lite power.
Some years ago one of our engineers was doing a light engine move on a rainy evening. He had issues on a downgrade, and once he finally got it stopped he was so rattled that he parked the locomotive and had someone pick him up.
Our "local" trains at ~4 cars are nice to handle - a decent amount of braking, but still fairly quick "off the line."
I haven't been in a 'Vette in a while, but I'm not sure I'd fit all that well these days. That's why I drive a pickup.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
I do like the new corvettes. But don't think I could own one. I'm more of a challenger guy (I'm thinking abotu pulling the trigger this year on one).
Lite power can be fun but it's also a pain. It's a lot of work keeping them at the speed limit. And you have to be careful with them - easy to get in trouble since you don't have a lot of braking power. Many guys have gotten through stop signals in lite power.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any
54light15, I DON'T have a Harley, not a beer fan and no ponytail. I'm on #5. It's not about breaking the speed limit, it's how fast I get up to the 'approximate' speed limit. Track time saves tickets.
ps: My grandfather always said barns were red because the red helped preserve the barn wood
Boxcars can be painted any color, not just brown/mineral red.
Electroliner 1935Larry, how fast will that V16 accelerate with no train behind it?
Don't know that it will put you back in your seat, but it might scare you.
I haven't had a light engine out on the main in ages.
I've been known to "spin the tires" on them from time to time...
Paul of Covington Never wanted a Corvette, either. It seemed to me that nobody kept them very long--I suspect they couldn't afford the insurance.
I bought a Chevrolet Caprice in 1996 (Last yr for them) and had the towing pakage. Guy I worked with had a Corvette with the same engine (5.7 L) he asked and i let hm drive it. He liked its perfomance better than the vette. Or so he said. I'm not a speed demon but it sure could accelerate.One time I punched the accellerator at a stoplight and heard my tires scream.Didn't do that again. (only car I ever was able to burn rubber with) At least when it wasn't pulling the trailer. I wanted the SS suspension but it wouldn't work with the trailer.
Larry, how fast will that V16 accelerate with no train behind it?
Firelock76 Well, Lady Firestorm's a firefighter's daughter, and as far as she's concerned all fire apparatus is SUPPOSED to be red, no exceptions and no lame excuses! Every time one of our local FD's "slime green" units goes past she yells "HEY! YOUR RIG'S THE WRONG COLOR!" Sometimes they yell back, "Yeah, we know!"
Well, Lady Firestorm's a firefighter's daughter, and as far as she's concerned all fire apparatus is SUPPOSED to be red, no exceptions and no lame excuses!
Every time one of our local FD's "slime green" units goes past she yells "HEY! YOUR RIG'S THE WRONG COLOR!"
Sometimes they yell back, "Yeah, we know!"
I just tell 'em they need to leave it out in the sun for a while so it'll ripen...
In Hamilton, Ontario was the Studebaker plant where production continued after the South Bend plant closed. The name Studebaker was painted on the side of the building but faded out. A group of old car guys asked the owner if they could repaint the sign. He said no. It was above where the railcar loading area was, the tracks are gone and the building is too.
I never would have thought I would have a segue to use this on a Railroad forum...
When I was a kid I read the following for the reason why Fire Engines are red.
Because: 1 plus 1 equals 2! That's why!
WHAT?
Well, ya see, 2 plus 1 equals 3, and 2 times 3 equals 6, and there are 6 feet in a fathom, and fathoms are a measure of the depth of the sea, and the sea has fish in it, and fishes have fins, and the Finns fought the Russians, and the Russians are often called "Reds", so Fire Engines are Red because they are always rushin' all over.
You can thank a comic book about The Three Stooges for that little tid-bit.
Sorry for the off-topic reply!
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
tree68But apparatus today has a wide array of warning lights, and most are LED. In fact, in some cases one can argue that today's apparatus almost have too many lights...
Too many and too bright at night! LED's these days are wicked!
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
MikeInPlano As I understood it, early fire trucks were painted red because all early cars were black, and red stood out, making the trucks readily visible to drivers of those cars.
As I understood it, early fire trucks were painted red because all early cars were black, and red stood out, making the trucks readily visible to drivers of those cars.
There are a number of stories/legends about why fire trucks are red. Truth is, not all early motorized fire apparatus was red - Vancouver, BC equipment was white, Baltimore, MD was white with orange (which continued into the 70's, at least).
Early apparatus (hand pumps) was myriad colors - and in many cases the color wasn't the key factor - it was how ornate the decoration was.
The legend I favor for red is that it was an expensive color (at least some reds), so if a fire company painted its apparatus red, they were showing off...
"Slime yellow" was the creation of an optometrist from Oswego, NY. He postulated that one problem with fire apparatus was that red actually appears black in low light situations. Many fire departments adopted the color whole-heartedly. The FAA mandated it for airfield apparatus.
Finding new apparatus in "slime yellow" is rare these days. Red, white, yellow, and combinations including those colors are common. One department paints their apparatus "safety black..." Grape, PA painted their trucks purple...
But apparatus today has a wide array of warning lights, and most are LED. In fact, in some cases one can argue that today's apparatus almost have too many lights...
And, there was the time when lime green was the proper color "because it was more visible than red." If I had not read that explanation, I would have wondered why the first one I saw in lime green was so painted. Salt Lake City fell for that for a time, but went back to the color that people KNEW meant that the vehicle was a fire department vehicle.
Johnny
54light15--"Corvettes are usually driven by the same guys that ride Harleys. Beer-bellied gray ponytails."
Hey I resemble that remark! Except my hair is still blondish and not grey and I do not ride a Harley but I did have a Yamaha Virago for many years.
But..IS there a difference in Brunswick Green and DGLE?
Yes, indeed. The tollbooth scene was filmed at Floyd Bennett field in Brooklyn. The tollbooth itself is an exact copy of the ones that were on the Wantaugh and Meadowbrook parkways when I was a kid. Maybe they're still there? But, the car does still exist as does the Packard in the "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." scene. In Arkansas as I've heard
54light15 Firelock, are you sure you don't want a 1940 Lincoln Continental rather than a Zephyr? Gorgeous and they have a V-12. Really, one of the most beautiful cars of all time. Santino Corleone drove one! Corvettes are usually driven by the same guys that ride Harleys. Beer-bellied gray ponytails.
Firelock, are you sure you don't want a 1940 Lincoln Continental rather than a Zephyr? Gorgeous and they have a V-12. Really, one of the most beautiful cars of all time. Santino Corleone drove one!
Corvettes are usually driven by the same guys that ride Harleys. Beer-bellied gray ponytails.
Hey, I could probably go for one of those too! The thing is, I first heard of the Zephyr from an ad in a vintage 1939 National Geographic. There it was in all it's glory right on the inside cover, and I was smitten right away!
A V-12 Continental wouldn't be bad either. Hopefully I'd own one a lot longer than Santino did!
Should have listened to his old man: "Women and children can be careless, but not men."
zugmann ..and is there a difference between Brunswick Green and DGLE*? The world may never know. * - Dark Green Locomotive Enamel
..and is there a difference between Brunswick Green and DGLE*? The world may never know.
* - Dark Green Locomotive Enamel
I suspect the reason many eastern US railroad bridges are black is because they were coal hauling roads, and that color would hide the black coal dust and drippings, etc. that would stain any other color (except Brunswick Green ).
- PDN.
tree68 Firelock76 Just the idea of that 12-cylinder mill under the hood... Hey, I got to play with a V-16 last night. And Monday and Tuesday, too!
Firelock76 Just the idea of that 12-cylinder mill under the hood...
Hey, I got to play with a V-16 last night. And Monday and Tuesday, too!
I had to think about that for about two seconds. OK, cool!
And you don't have to worry about tire pressure or whether the turn signals work.
Firelock76I don't own a Corvette and don't plan on owning one. MY dream car is a 1939 Lincoln Zephyr V-12! Just the idea of that 12-cylinder mill under the hood...
Never wanted a Corvette, either. It seemed to me that nobody kept them very long--I suspect they couldn't afford the insurance.
MY dream car is one I used to have--1974 Dodge van--a basic box on four wheels. I drove it 18 years and over 400k miles.
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tree68 Deggesty Yes, some police might look at a red Corvette or any other red sports car that is parked and give it a ticket for going too fast. Hey - That's my line! As I recall, there was a television commercial that used exactly that "plot."
Deggesty Yes, some police might look at a red Corvette or any other red sports car that is parked and give it a ticket for going too fast.
Yes, some police might look at a red Corvette or any other red sports car that is parked and give it a ticket for going too fast.
Hey - That's my line!
As I recall, there was a television commercial that used exactly that "plot."
Dodge, around 1970-ish, I think.
My 'toy' car
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